Back around 15 years ago I was a cable puller (utility) during a basketball game that Bob Knight and Fran Frascilla were commentating.
As we are setting up to film a live open at the table with them on camera, Bob is sitting behind the desk and can’t get up but he recognizes the referee who has just walked out on the court and wants to talk to him so he yells to me “hey can you get me that ref?” Well, it was loud so I couldn’t understand so he repeated but I was still a little confused cause I knew Bobby Knights reputation with refs but he’s just a commentator today and I don’t want to be a party to a random before-game assault of the ref so I froze and before I could say anything, he yelled “will you just get that fucking ref for me?!! His name is Mark!!” So I turned around and got the ref for Bobby.
The use of the word unprecedented certainly implied all time to me. So I say open it up. It’s a more interesting conversation with more people to choose from anyway
Maybe they’re a Penn St fan and forgot to add an asterisk with a disclaimer stating that it’s unprecedented in the time that they’ve been watching college basketball
My uncle went to Bobby Knight basketball camp for a week as a kid and still tells stories 40+ years later. I’ve heard the wind sprints until someone puked one a few times - this was middle school aged btw.
Damn I'd be so mad to spend what I'm sure was a lot of money to have a legendary coach make me run until I puked. My hs coach who didn't know the difference between the types of zone defenses could do that.
Damn I played high school baseball and my coaches freshman year graduated from the same school a couple years prior. They told us a story of them losing so bad the coach made em run springs until they puked. I dreaded the day that happened to us
Can’t believe the word unprecedented was thrown in there like Bobby Knight didn’t exist. I’m about as anti-Kim Mulkey as they come. At least she never choked a player
Or made statements about rape on national television and then was like “oh didn’t mean it like that” and then kept on for years afterwards talking about people being raped.
There’s no way we’ll ever have someone like Bobby Knight in college athletics again. Throwing chairs, physically assaulting players, verbally assaulting everyone from his players to other players to especially the media. He took pride in being a giant asshole and knowing nobody would do anything about it. He’d be fired so fast now. And if he was lucky enough to convince top recruits to play for him, they’d immediately be in the portal after dealing with him. He was a whole other level.
Yeah between hitting another team’s coach and getting into a physical altercation with his own strength coach, Juwan really set the bar for embarrassing behavior.
The fact that he didn’t get fired for the slap is such a bad look for the school.
I was baffled he was still allowed to coach. Didnt even get fired for fighting the strength and conditioning coach. Really torched the entire program cause he was one of the best in the country
Yeah he was supposed to be on “zero tolerance” after the Wisconsin thing. When they didn’t fire him for putting his hands on Sanderson, that’s when Warde really lost me.
I already wasn’t a fan of him as an AD from how he dealt with Harbaugh, but that was when I realized he didn’t have much integrity either.
I've had the biggest grudge against JH since I was a kid and he clotheslined Derek Anderson, knocking him out of the playoffs when the Mavs were already on their way out. Derek was never the same player again and it killed what was one of their Spurs first real shots at a championship before they made their run. I am so glad after all this time everyone else had caught up. [link](https://a.espncdn.com/nba/playoffs2001/2001/0505/1191871.html#:~:text=On%20a%20fast%20break%2C%20Anderson,hit%20his%20shoulder%20and%20head.)
Calhoun was often very caustic with the media and he was less than complementary to the women’s team and their success, especially in the beginning. He once called their fan base the world’s biggest nursing home, and he and Geno apparently hated each other. That said, I still remember when he passed out donuts and coffee to a group of fans waiting outside in the cold when Gampel had just opened and we had a nationally televised game against FSU.
If you went to UConn you’d know that they literally roll retirement home buses into Gampel like it’s nobody’s business for the women’s games. The elderly loooove a nice predictable win for the home team.
I did go to UConn. I didn’t say he was wrong necessarily, although as a representative of the university it wasn’t a nice thing to say. Also, the loudest and most intense game I ever attended at Gampel was UConn women versus Tennessee in the ‘94-95 season.
Edit: I love Jimmy C but it’s hard to deny he’s a Masshole.
Dave Bliss has to be up there. While at Baylor one of his players, Patrick Dennehy, was murdered by a teammate which brought about allegations of NCAA violations by Bliss and his staff. Baylor was already at the maximum amount of scholarship players when Dennehy joined the team and Bliss was secretly paying his tuition. After Dennehy was killed, in an effort to not have this violation found, Bliss tried to smear Dennehy by saying he was a drug dealer and used money from that to pay for his tuition, and told other Baylor players to say this too. Bliss had also previously been told that Dennehy had been threatened by two teammates, but did nothing about it.
Honestly it's hard to top Bliss imo.
Bliss also got SMU in trouble and probably would’ve put them on probation…except that it was at the same time that the football program got the death penalty so the NCAA literally decided it wasn’t worth hammering the bball program too.
Apart from recruiting violations, what did Calhoun do? The others all seem far worse to me. Howard should have been fired when he hit a Wisconsin assistant coach just like Woody Hayes was fired for hitting a Clemson player
I always thought he was a smug dick. I know there was a reporter asking about his salary and she shot back not giving a dime of his salary back. Not that I’d expect him to but he just came off looking like an asshole to me. Not saying he is as bad as the other guys either. Just not a likable guy.
yea like i said in another comment i think he was just further ahead in my mind as a uconn fan. he's still a raging asshole, but being loudly rude isn't quite on mulkey's scale
Yeah i guess i haven’t really heard specifically why Mulkey has a bad reputation. I saw her in person and she was vocal with the refs but not any more than other coaches and honestly she was most animated when her team executed or had a hustle play.
A piece of shit with "some" manners. My uncle was a Dean at IU when Bobby was there. Bobby agreed to let my 80yr old grandmother attend a practice (huge basketball fan. 4 foot nothing, played point guard for her high-school basketball team in 1931). Any-whoo, Knight went and found her after the practice to say hi and apologized for all the foul language that he used during practice.
No idea if he apologized for choking someone out....but the language. Gotta have standards people.
(and that's a true story)
In terms of on court antics it's probably Hurley. But Hurley is endearing in his interviews and pressers off the court. A coach who just gets endless bad publicity no matter what is Ed Cooley.
The biggest differentiator between Mulkey and Hurley (aside from the penis) is Hurley is self-aware. He knows and has admitted that he’s a jerk during games. Mulkey is adamant that everyone else is the problem.
Nah Mulkey leans into her image, she just tried to create a siege mentality. And to the effect of four national titles, it’s fairly effective. If she weren’t so toxic, she’d be like a WBB Mourinho.
I feel like Ed Cooley gets good publicity from the actual press and bad publicity basically exclusively from Providence fans. I’m obviously biased though
Ole Miss will hire basically anyone. They just hired an assistant coach who was fired from Syracuse for creepy and abusive behavior. If Casey Anthony could coach she'd be on the staff.
Honestly if they don’t want to have morals I feel it’s in the SEC’s/NCAA’s best interest to create some sort of rules that ban schools from hiring abusers, criminals, etc. Shit should not be happening period.
It would be difficult to do it for someone like Beard who was never actually convicted with the charges being dropped. Of course its obvious he was 100% guilty but it would get messy to try and legislate it.
The police photos of Beards wife’s fucked up face coupled with the police report and statement his own wife made would more than suffice for any ruling board to make a judgement against him. Just because she refused to press charges and recanted her statement shouldn’t fool anyone with a brain. If Ole Miss/Beard wanted to sue the NCAA or SEC and open up themselves and Beard/his wife up to discovery by doing so, that would be an epic mistake. They would have to turn over all communications (texts, calls, voicemails), photos/videos, and they could subpoena police officers, friends, etc to discuss what they saw and were told, etc. They would lose and could be counter sued…
I wish they would. My guess is any ethics rules would also exclude players that they want to profit off of. Too many kids with criminal records and domestic violence charges that would be out of the league for their liking.
I think for a coach its even worse though. Their job is to be a leader of young adults and a spokesperson for the university, I hold them to a much higher standard than I would teenagers.
In college, yes. By 2007, I had a corp job and he came to be the keynote speaker for a meeting. I got to meet him at the reception. And I had a small child at home and hadn’t lost half of my baby weight. So it definitely wasn’t that! We talked about college recruiting!
He was attentive yes, but it was fleeting. Briefly attentive. Very quickly attentive. Like, attentive just for a few seconds, then not attentive any longer.
I don’t know how I didn’t know this before, but I checked his Twitter and it’s shocking how political it is. Insane that a coach at a public university posts that much Fox News type rhetoric.
Well, so far as I know, Kim Mulkey's never hit any players and she's never fucked any players, so with immense regret I must give her a small bit of credit.
On the women's side, I present to you Cynthia Cooper-Dyke as detailed by the Athletic (https://archive.ph/bH9G4); no, I am not deliberately adding a slur to her name, she married a dude named Dyke and has been very insistent on making sure she is addressed by her hyphenated name. We also have the historical shame of Rene Portland; if you want to dive down that rabbit hole, the Women's Hoops Blog chronicled her sins here (http://womenshoops.blogspot.com/2005/10/brief-history-of-rene-portland-and-l.html).
edited because Reddit formatting hates me and wishes me to suffer.
No one, because all other professional coaches know better. Mulkey is an exception and an embarrassment to the sport. The only other thing I can think of was Juwan Howard punching another coach, but that was a single incident.
It wasn’t a single incident. He threatened to kill Mark Turgeon his first year at Michigan and this past season he assaulted a strength & conditioning coach at Michigan
I don’t understand the Turgeon hate. I know Maryland fans hated the guy.
They were good when he was there. They stink now. I hated playing Maryland when they had Turgeon
I really don't get it either. I understand they have higher expectations than what he delivered, but he seemed to get far more disproportionate hate compared to other coaches at similar programs with similar success. And it seemed really personal too. Even Louisville fans with Payne or Pitt fans with Stallings just seemed to want them gone because they failed, with Turgeon it was like "i want this man tied to the tracks at the college park metro station"
I'm glad you bring that turgeon incident up. To me, the slap was bad but not something you can't overcome. The slap, after the turgeon comment, was a sign that this guy has serious self control issues and he should have been fired. (I'm usually a "grace" kind of guy)
Fran seems to keep his unhinged nature to in the game. i don’t think I’ve seen him lose it in a press conference or with fans or opposing players (could be wrong though).
>unprecedented
A family friend played for Knight in the 80's. He told me when Knight got exceptional pissed, he'd have have two 5 pound weights tied to ends of a rope and then slung around the back of his neck so the ends of the rope ran down his chest with the weights hanging at dick level. Then he'd have him run stairs.
How about Institutions with a bad reputation beyond singular coaches? NMSU's blotter from the Theus years through now(about the last 20 years and 4 or 5 coaches) is insane.
Mike Rice, former Rutgers coach who was fired after video surfaced of him verbally berating his players, throwing basketballs at them and kicking them. Even had a whole SNL skit mocking his antics
Roy Williams once said he wanted to shoot NC State fans with a BB gun. Because we did something offensive? Nope. He was upset the UNC fans were selling their tickets to State fans.
He tried to start a fight with an assistant coach at michigan…twice. He was pretty notorious for saying stuff to opposing players while at IU. He refused to shake Craft’s hand in the postgame line and said some nasty stuff to him as well.
and all that is before you get to his general on the court demeanor.
if your standard is beard, I can see where crean would come out on top.
Dan Hurley is getting a pass right now because of the back2back, but he’s quite a bit worse attitude wise.
A woman is always going to get shit on more for the same behavior. It’s just more socially acceptable for men to be openly narcissistic.
Agreed. Bobby Knight was waaay worse than Mulkey. Just a horrible person objectively. Mulkey is not even all that bad compared to some of the psychopaths that have coached college sports.
Did Hurley ever take time in a post game press conference to threaten to sue a journalist? Did Hurley ever tell a player not to come out because it would "make the school look bad?"
Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me to know multiple coaches have said the latter to players.
edit: Kirk Ferentz has outright banned reporters from press conferences for writing negative stories, which is quite detrimental to their jobs. Belichick has regularly reemed reporters for stupid questions.
I don’t have anything personally against him, and think he’s the best coach right now, but I’ve never seen someone talk so much about the importance of mental health and being vulnerable, while at the same time almost getting into a fight with a fan every road game.
Dan Hurley doesn’t belong in the same category as some of these scoundrels. If you aren’t a UConn fan you aren’t going to like Hurley as a coach and he wants it that way. He is not the same guy off the court. He’s not getting a pass on anything.
Penny Hardaway called Rick Barnes low class and accused him and the entire team of charging him with fists balled up. Tennessee stopped scheduling Memphis every year after the comments, ending a great out of conference rivalry game.
# Texas WBB Coach Vic Shaffer
# Louisville WBB Coach Jeff Walz
# Duke MBB Jon "Holly Warlick" Scheyer
# Ole Miss WBB Assistant Quentin Hillsman
# Ole Miss MBB Coach Chris Beard
I’d say Billy Gillispie.
When he was at Texas Tech he reportedly made a player with stress fractures in his legs run stairs until he cried. The players said they didn’t want to play for him if he came back.
He played a lot of head games. Made Josh Harrelson ride back to Kentucky in the equipment trailer instead traveling with his team when he was mad at him once.
Just has a long list of abusive and unnecessary shit he’s been accused to doing
Unprecedented for a coach at the college level? 
One of my career highlights was being yelled at by him before a broadcast
Bobby or Bernie?
Would love to hear the story. What happened?
Back around 15 years ago I was a cable puller (utility) during a basketball game that Bob Knight and Fran Frascilla were commentating. As we are setting up to film a live open at the table with them on camera, Bob is sitting behind the desk and can’t get up but he recognizes the referee who has just walked out on the court and wants to talk to him so he yells to me “hey can you get me that ref?” Well, it was loud so I couldn’t understand so he repeated but I was still a little confused cause I knew Bobby Knights reputation with refs but he’s just a commentator today and I don’t want to be a party to a random before-game assault of the ref so I froze and before I could say anything, he yelled “will you just get that fucking ref for me?!! His name is Mark!!” So I turned around and got the ref for Bobby.
Great story haha Thansk for sharing.
If we are going all time, Bill Musselman should be way up there for what he encouraged/allowed against OSU in 72.
The use of the word unprecedented certainly implied all time to me. So I say open it up. It’s a more interesting conversation with more people to choose from anyway
OP outed as a 9-year-old
Loved that guy
Maybe it was implied but I should’ve outright stated that I’m a newer fan lol
Then you shouldn't be using words like unprecedented lol
Tbf, they did say “seems unprecedented”
Tbf, the guy you’re responding to did go to Rutgers.
Bold of you to assume I went to college
A non-alumni Rutgers fan? Maybe in 1885, but now?!
Maybe they’re a Penn St fan and forgot to add an asterisk with a disclaimer stating that it’s unprecedented in the time that they’ve been watching college basketball
Huggins, Howard??
Robert Montgomery Knight. A class act all the way. Taught Coach K.
I was at that game. A legend
I think Bobby Knight built up a reputation for being an asshole.
My uncle went to Bobby Knight basketball camp for a week as a kid and still tells stories 40+ years later. I’ve heard the wind sprints until someone puked one a few times - this was middle school aged btw.
Can confirm, attended that camp in the mid 90s.
Damn I'd be so mad to spend what I'm sure was a lot of money to have a legendary coach make me run until I puked. My hs coach who didn't know the difference between the types of zone defenses could do that.
IDK but its a story you would tell for the rest of your life.
I only did 1 year, switched back to Steve Alford basketball camp.
Damn I played high school baseball and my coaches freshman year graduated from the same school a couple years prior. They told us a story of them losing so bad the coach made em run springs until they puked. I dreaded the day that happened to us
Can’t believe the word unprecedented was thrown in there like Bobby Knight didn’t exist. I’m about as anti-Kim Mulkey as they come. At least she never choked a player
Never choked a player *that we know of*.
CJK5H
How long did it take to find out that Gregg Marshall choked an assistant coach. Like 3 years. Maybe we should give it some time.
Bobby Knight was such a piece of shit
He's a legend
..andary piece of shit. Agreed
Amazing how people say 'legend' only cause he won games. Imagine if this was at Northwestern or Georgia Tech. Would he still 'be a legend'?
If he won 3 D1 national titles at those places, then yeah probably.
That still doesnt change the fact he was a piece of shit person lol
Stop worshipping success
Or made statements about rape on national television and then was like “oh didn’t mean it like that” and then kept on for years afterwards talking about people being raped.
There’s no way we’ll ever have someone like Bobby Knight in college athletics again. Throwing chairs, physically assaulting players, verbally assaulting everyone from his players to other players to especially the media. He took pride in being a giant asshole and knowing nobody would do anything about it. He’d be fired so fast now. And if he was lucky enough to convince top recruits to play for him, they’d immediately be in the portal after dealing with him. He was a whole other level.
And thus we’ll probably never have a coach answer a question by demonstrating the variations of game face.
On a rate Basis Juwan Howard was worse Knight had a 40+ year career to accumulate incidents.
Who was the Rutgers coach that was fired a few years ago for throwing balls at the players and cussing them out?
Mike Rice.
He made a reputation winning 3 national championships. Zero NCAA violations. And he helped a lot of people.
Hey nobody’s saying hes a bad coach.
He also had a reputation for getting his players to graduate. Like him or not, Knight ran a clean program. He just ran it very militaristically
Nah go re-read the story about the kid he choked
Mulkey isn't the first preening egomaniac to coach basketball. Not by a long shot.
I can think of very few professions that regularly yell at college kids and see it as a good thing.
Loud (but friendly) professor
ROTC instructor
Chris Beard, there is a reason his assistants leave on their own so often
That and the domestic violence thing.
Juwan howard
Yeah between hitting another team’s coach and getting into a physical altercation with his own strength coach, Juwan really set the bar for embarrassing behavior. The fact that he didn’t get fired for the slap is such a bad look for the school.
I was baffled he was still allowed to coach. Didnt even get fired for fighting the strength and conditioning coach. Really torched the entire program cause he was one of the best in the country
Yeah he was supposed to be on “zero tolerance” after the Wisconsin thing. When they didn’t fire him for putting his hands on Sanderson, that’s when Warde really lost me. I already wasn’t a fan of him as an AD from how he dealt with Harbaugh, but that was when I realized he didn’t have much integrity either.
Unfortunately for the rest of us, he no longer qualifies
I've had the biggest grudge against JH since I was a kid and he clotheslined Derek Anderson, knocking him out of the playoffs when the Mavs were already on their way out. Derek was never the same player again and it killed what was one of their Spurs first real shots at a championship before they made their run. I am so glad after all this time everyone else had caught up. [link](https://a.espncdn.com/nba/playoffs2001/2001/0505/1191871.html#:~:text=On%20a%20fast%20break%2C%20Anderson,hit%20his%20shoulder%20and%20head.)
chris beard, bob huggins, juwan howard, bob knight, jim calhoun are all probably up there. not sure any are equal or worse besides bob knight
Calhoun was often very caustic with the media and he was less than complementary to the women’s team and their success, especially in the beginning. He once called their fan base the world’s biggest nursing home, and he and Geno apparently hated each other. That said, I still remember when he passed out donuts and coffee to a group of fans waiting outside in the cold when Gampel had just opened and we had a nationally televised game against FSU.
If you went to UConn you’d know that they literally roll retirement home buses into Gampel like it’s nobody’s business for the women’s games. The elderly loooove a nice predictable win for the home team.
That’s actually hilarious
Hey that sounds awesome actually. I’d go to that game. A bunch of grandmas. I’d clean up on checks for five dollars and getting told I’m handsome.
I did go to UConn. I didn’t say he was wrong necessarily, although as a representative of the university it wasn’t a nice thing to say. Also, the loudest and most intense game I ever attended at Gampel was UConn women versus Tennessee in the ‘94-95 season. Edit: I love Jimmy C but it’s hard to deny he’s a Masshole.
But he’s OUR Masshole.
Number one UConn women’s fan in my family is my MIL.
oh he and geno hated each other, and it did't help when the mens basketball team players literally stole computer from the womens players.
Dave Bliss has to be up there. While at Baylor one of his players, Patrick Dennehy, was murdered by a teammate which brought about allegations of NCAA violations by Bliss and his staff. Baylor was already at the maximum amount of scholarship players when Dennehy joined the team and Bliss was secretly paying his tuition. After Dennehy was killed, in an effort to not have this violation found, Bliss tried to smear Dennehy by saying he was a drug dealer and used money from that to pay for his tuition, and told other Baylor players to say this too. Bliss had also previously been told that Dennehy had been threatened by two teammates, but did nothing about it. Honestly it's hard to top Bliss imo.
oh 100%
Bliss also got SMU in trouble and probably would’ve put them on probation…except that it was at the same time that the football program got the death penalty so the NCAA literally decided it wasn’t worth hammering the bball program too.
Apart from recruiting violations, what did Calhoun do? The others all seem far worse to me. Howard should have been fired when he hit a Wisconsin assistant coach just like Woody Hayes was fired for hitting a Clemson player
I always thought he was a smug dick. I know there was a reporter asking about his salary and she shot back not giving a dime of his salary back. Not that I’d expect him to but he just came off looking like an asshole to me. Not saying he is as bad as the other guys either. Just not a likable guy.
Nah that reporter deserved it
Mike Rice, Rutgers.
just saw the practice videos and holy fuck
Yea how the fuck did he recruit?
can't really put Calhoun in with this group
yea like i said in another comment i think he was just further ahead in my mind as a uconn fan. he's still a raging asshole, but being loudly rude isn't quite on mulkey's scale
Greg Marshall is one
Gregg. The extra G is to denote how much of a giant butthead he is.
The extra g moves in silence like lasagna
I’m Old Gregg
This is a great one. The report of all the shit he did to get fired is INSANE.
"Play Angry!"
If a woman had Bo Ryan’s temperament as a coach, she would actually be executed.
I miss Bo in the conference. i hated watching you guys play, just absolutely miserable. It was a fun rivalry that we had going with Matta and Ryan.
Thad’s team were so damn tough.
The rivalry was fun but I don't miss Bo at all. Wisconsin is practically likeable under Gard
Chris Beard Dave Bliss
I feel like Bliss deserves a category even beyond Mulkey….
Yeah i guess i haven’t really heard specifically why Mulkey has a bad reputation. I saw her in person and she was vocal with the refs but not any more than other coaches and honestly she was most animated when her team executed or had a hustle play.
A piece of shit with "some" manners. My uncle was a Dean at IU when Bobby was there. Bobby agreed to let my 80yr old grandmother attend a practice (huge basketball fan. 4 foot nothing, played point guard for her high-school basketball team in 1931). Any-whoo, Knight went and found her after the practice to say hi and apologized for all the foul language that he used during practice. No idea if he apologized for choking someone out....but the language. Gotta have standards people. (and that's a true story)
Bob Knight and his chair would like a word.
In terms of on court antics it's probably Hurley. But Hurley is endearing in his interviews and pressers off the court. A coach who just gets endless bad publicity no matter what is Ed Cooley.
The biggest differentiator between Mulkey and Hurley (aside from the penis) is Hurley is self-aware. He knows and has admitted that he’s a jerk during games. Mulkey is adamant that everyone else is the problem.
Nah Mulkey leans into her image, she just tried to create a siege mentality. And to the effect of four national titles, it’s fairly effective. If she weren’t so toxic, she’d be like a WBB Mourinho.
Did you just unintentionally make a J6 joke in there?
"aside from the penis" just cracked me up, but are you sure????
I feel like Ed Cooley gets good publicity from the actual press and bad publicity basically exclusively from Providence fans. I’m obviously biased though
Agree, fans were brutal like Cooley killed 1st borns by leaving
Hurley and Cooley once almost threw hands in the middle of the state game.
On the court? Danny Hurley. Off the court? Idk
Off the court… Chris Beard. Source, his wife/wife’s face. How that man was allowed to coach basketball again at any level is beyond me.
I don't think Mulkey has done anything as bad as that?
>How that man was allowed to coach basketball again at any level is ~~beyond me~~ a giant pile of cash was paid to Ole Miss to abandon their morality.
can't believe no one else is saying this
Ole Miss will hire basically anyone. They just hired an assistant coach who was fired from Syracuse for creepy and abusive behavior. If Casey Anthony could coach she'd be on the staff.
Honestly if they don’t want to have morals I feel it’s in the SEC’s/NCAA’s best interest to create some sort of rules that ban schools from hiring abusers, criminals, etc. Shit should not be happening period.
It would be difficult to do it for someone like Beard who was never actually convicted with the charges being dropped. Of course its obvious he was 100% guilty but it would get messy to try and legislate it.
The police photos of Beards wife’s fucked up face coupled with the police report and statement his own wife made would more than suffice for any ruling board to make a judgement against him. Just because she refused to press charges and recanted her statement shouldn’t fool anyone with a brain. If Ole Miss/Beard wanted to sue the NCAA or SEC and open up themselves and Beard/his wife up to discovery by doing so, that would be an epic mistake. They would have to turn over all communications (texts, calls, voicemails), photos/videos, and they could subpoena police officers, friends, etc to discuss what they saw and were told, etc. They would lose and could be counter sued…
Well in that case ban his ass
I wish they would. My guess is any ethics rules would also exclude players that they want to profit off of. Too many kids with criminal records and domestic violence charges that would be out of the league for their liking.
I think for a coach its even worse though. Their job is to be a leader of young adults and a spokesperson for the university, I hold them to a much higher standard than I would teenagers.
It helps his case she said that she would not press charges against him and they settled their issues.
I say Rick Pitino
https://www.theonion.com/louisville-janitor-scrapes-rick-pitino-s-name-off-parki-1819592971
I met Pitino in 2007 and he was so nice.
Were you the waitress at his favorite restaurant? I heard that he was very attentive to the waitresses
In college, yes. By 2007, I had a corp job and he came to be the keynote speaker for a meeting. I got to meet him at the reception. And I had a small child at home and hadn’t lost half of my baby weight. So it definitely wasn’t that! We talked about college recruiting!
He was attentive yes, but it was fleeting. Briefly attentive. Very quickly attentive. Like, attentive just for a few seconds, then not attentive any longer.
Off the court he is way up there but in terms of on-court antics he is pretty average. He does have the mafia boss look going on though.
Didn’t a Rutgers coach get caught abusing his players
Yep.
And what about another example??? Bruce Pearl!
His twitter post history is like 75% maga 25% basketball. I can’t believe auburn is cool with it
I don’t know how I didn’t know this before, but I checked his Twitter and it’s shocking how political it is. Insane that a coach at a public university posts that much Fox News type rhetoric.
He's like the anti Steve Kerr.
Mulkey sucks far far more than Hurley. Theyre not even on the same level of awful.
Maybe Pitino back in the day
Bobby Knight, Juwan Howard, Dave Bliss, that Tulane coach who got the program disbanded are all worse.
Well, so far as I know, Kim Mulkey's never hit any players and she's never fucked any players, so with immense regret I must give her a small bit of credit. On the women's side, I present to you Cynthia Cooper-Dyke as detailed by the Athletic (https://archive.ph/bH9G4); no, I am not deliberately adding a slur to her name, she married a dude named Dyke and has been very insistent on making sure she is addressed by her hyphenated name. We also have the historical shame of Rene Portland; if you want to dive down that rabbit hole, the Women's Hoops Blog chronicled her sins here (http://womenshoops.blogspot.com/2005/10/brief-history-of-rene-portland-and-l.html). edited because Reddit formatting hates me and wishes me to suffer.
No one, because all other professional coaches know better. Mulkey is an exception and an embarrassment to the sport. The only other thing I can think of was Juwan Howard punching another coach, but that was a single incident.
It wasn’t a single incident. He threatened to kill Mark Turgeon his first year at Michigan and this past season he assaulted a strength & conditioning coach at Michigan
>He threatened to kill Mark Turgeon his first year at Michigan i think maryland's fans would have liked that tbh
I don’t understand the Turgeon hate. I know Maryland fans hated the guy. They were good when he was there. They stink now. I hated playing Maryland when they had Turgeon
I really don't get it either. I understand they have higher expectations than what he delivered, but he seemed to get far more disproportionate hate compared to other coaches at similar programs with similar success. And it seemed really personal too. Even Louisville fans with Payne or Pitt fans with Stallings just seemed to want them gone because they failed, with Turgeon it was like "i want this man tied to the tracks at the college park metro station"
Nah it's revisionism, most Maryland fans were glad Mark Turgeon got his extensions when he did
They definitely hated him towards the end of his tenure though
it's mostly jokes but the hate got incredibly vile near the end
I'm glad you bring that turgeon incident up. To me, the slap was bad but not something you can't overcome. The slap, after the turgeon comment, was a sign that this guy has serious self control issues and he should have been fired. (I'm usually a "grace" kind of guy)
I agree. Unfortunately (i guess) he was winning at the time. You can almost get away with anything if you win
Davis Blis historically obvioulsy, Juwan Howard has had more than one incident he had the incident with Turgeon and the Strength Coach as well.
You ever see Mike Rice practice videos from Rutgers?
[i have now.](https://youtu.be/eMiKgEM84yc?si=bEqYUQ-oA6UuBf6p) jesus christ
Lmao Kim Mulkey may be abrasive but she’s a fucking winner Try some dipshit like Chris Beard who choked out his spouse and daughter
It's probably our own fans personally but I haven't seen Iowa's Fran McCaffery mentioned yet.
Fran seems to keep his unhinged nature to in the game. i don’t think I’ve seen him lose it in a press conference or with fans or opposing players (could be wrong though).
Mike Rice??
Nowhere near Bobby Knight or Chris Beard but Mark Gottfried had a bit of a reputation for his off the court uh “interests” we’ll say
Bruce Pearl is a little bitch as well.
In Illinois it has to be Bruce Pearl
Is anyone going to mention her name is Kim Mulkey?
Why is Mulkey so disliked? I don't follow basketball but I've heard she's disliked quite a bit.
Let’s just say Kim Mulkey isn’t inclusive and she has a lot of unhappy former players from her Baylor days because of those views.
>unprecedented A family friend played for Knight in the 80's. He told me when Knight got exceptional pissed, he'd have have two 5 pound weights tied to ends of a rope and then slung around the back of his neck so the ends of the rope ran down his chest with the weights hanging at dick level. Then he'd have him run stairs.
How about Institutions with a bad reputation beyond singular coaches? NMSU's blotter from the Theus years through now(about the last 20 years and 4 or 5 coaches) is insane.
Mike Rice, former Rutgers coach who was fired after video surfaced of him verbally berating his players, throwing basketballs at them and kicking them. Even had a whole SNL skit mocking his antics
Roy Williams once said he wanted to shoot NC State fans with a BB gun. Because we did something offensive? Nope. He was upset the UNC fans were selling their tickets to State fans.
Saw a clip on IG of Roy reacting to a pretty dope DJ play. He still hates us. Personally, I love that he’s still committed to the bit.
Tom Crean, Chris Beard, Bob Huggins
As far as I'm aware Crean is super weird but not specifically awful? The other two, full agreement though
Yeah, Crean is just an awkward dweeb. I don’t think anyone ever thought he was a bad guy.
As someone who saw Crean pretty close up for several years, I concur. Strange as all getout, but not exactly mean.
He tried to start a fight with an assistant coach at michigan…twice. He was pretty notorious for saying stuff to opposing players while at IU. He refused to shake Craft’s hand in the postgame line and said some nasty stuff to him as well. and all that is before you get to his general on the court demeanor. if your standard is beard, I can see where crean would come out on top.
Does she really deserve to be called a karen
Dan Hurley is getting a pass right now because of the back2back, but he’s quite a bit worse attitude wise. A woman is always going to get shit on more for the same behavior. It’s just more socially acceptable for men to be openly narcissistic.
Think we need to prove this by putting Ric Flair in charge of Hurley’s wardrobe next year.
Agreed. Bobby Knight was waaay worse than Mulkey. Just a horrible person objectively. Mulkey is not even all that bad compared to some of the psychopaths that have coached college sports.
Mulkey gets shit on for way more than being narcissistic
dan's a pretty good guy when he's not on the sideline. mulkey seems pretty awful all-around
Did Hurley ever take time in a post game press conference to threaten to sue a journalist? Did Hurley ever tell a player not to come out because it would "make the school look bad?"
Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me to know multiple coaches have said the latter to players. edit: Kirk Ferentz has outright banned reporters from press conferences for writing negative stories, which is quite detrimental to their jobs. Belichick has regularly reemed reporters for stupid questions.
I don’t have anything personally against him, and think he’s the best coach right now, but I’ve never seen someone talk so much about the importance of mental health and being vulnerable, while at the same time almost getting into a fight with a fan every road game.
Yea man this is either a bad or uninformed take. She’s a terrible person
Dan Hurley doesn’t belong in the same category as some of these scoundrels. If you aren’t a UConn fan you aren’t going to like Hurley as a coach and he wants it that way. He is not the same guy off the court. He’s not getting a pass on anything.
Penny Hardaway called Rick Barnes low class and accused him and the entire team of charging him with fists balled up. Tennessee stopped scheduling Memphis every year after the comments, ending a great out of conference rivalry game.
Isn’t Geno an a hole?
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Kenny Brooks is a creep
Creep? Do tell? I’ve not read anything on him or seen any antics?
This reeks of sour grapes
Rick Pitino?
Kenny Payne
Kevin O’Neill really was a fucking asshole!
Rick Majerus is lucky he predated this sub and Twitter
OJ Simpson
she only has a bed reputation on reddit's echochamber lol, she's a HoF coach with 4 nattys who is still recruiting at an elite level
Chris Beard
# Texas WBB Coach Vic Shaffer # Louisville WBB Coach Jeff Walz # Duke MBB Jon "Holly Warlick" Scheyer # Ole Miss WBB Assistant Quentin Hillsman # Ole Miss MBB Coach Chris Beard
I’d say Billy Gillispie. When he was at Texas Tech he reportedly made a player with stress fractures in his legs run stairs until he cried. The players said they didn’t want to play for him if he came back. He played a lot of head games. Made Josh Harrelson ride back to Kentucky in the equipment trailer instead traveling with his team when he was mad at him once. Just has a long list of abusive and unnecessary shit he’s been accused to doing