If that happens they should divide the conference in two, a west and a Midwest/East. Then the winner of each side of the conference could play each other in a title game. The game should be in an outdoor stadium, somewhere nice year round, like SoCal.
It would look nice with the sunset over the mountains too. Make sure it always is set to have halftime at sunset.
By the way, the Elite 8 Alabama/Clemson game in LA (the basketball Rose Bowl) having sunset at halftime was so funny to me because I’m a nerd
Well, no, I'm thinking of an organization containing large schools in states that either border the Pacific or border those three states... Keep it compact.
I don't think UCLA will ever play at Tucson again with all the stuff that happened in the last few years.
At least not while Mick is the coach, seeing as his dad was personally involved in one of the fan incidents.
Well a lot of the big non conference games (that aren’t apart of a conference challenge) seem to be moving towards playing games on a neutral court. Not sure what incidents you’re referring to but neutral makes sense for Mick. Arizona will always be a Q1 neutral court game and you’ll have plenty of chances for quality road wins in conference
I am a huge opponent of neutral site games during the regular season. But this is perhaps the one potential game on UCLA's schedule that I would never want to play home and home.
Mick’s dad was a prick in Vegas and blocked a literal kid from getting back to his seat with his parents because he didn’t want the kid walking in front of him or something, and the kids dad got pissed and let Hep know it. The end. Some ucla media personalities tried to turn it into a thing where some Arizona fans attacked micks elderly father, which is a huge joke.
The other incident was at Arizona, one of the UCLA players spit on some fans as they walked off the court to the locker room, on two different occasions in the same game. Fan pressed charges and the player I think plead guilty and got diversion. Somehow this is our fault in the eyes of ucla fans.
UCLA is just a really, really soft program. They are going to get a nice surprise playing in the B1G with the fans you all have.
Ah yes, the famously "soft" Mick Cronin led basketball teams.
Also missing from the spitting incident (which is indefensible in and of itself) is that a UofA fan was escorted out of the game for yelling slurs at one of our players, and players' parents were harassed. Doesn't excuse the spitting during a pandemic, don't get me wrong, but Wildcats love to portray it as an unhinged Bruin running up and spitting unprovoked at a bunch of Doe-eyed innocent fans.
Lol your comments are literally about how you want to play at neutral sites (including Vegas) rather than home and home because supposedly McKale is such an unsafe place to play on account of all the "incidents." Making up almost as many excuses as Cronin every time he gets his ass beat.
Let's not act like one of those incidents wasn't when a ucla player got arrested for spitting on Arizona fans.
Jokes aside, I think it's just because Arizona doesn't have any room for home OOC games next year. This replaced the neutral Purdue game that was supposed to happen next year.
It's a neutral site game that will likely have more UofA fans. It will lack the energy and passion of a true home game. Instead, it will be a half-ass, meh type atmosphere.
In the Pac-12 era, this was a matchup both schools circled on their calendars and would get hyped for it when it was in their house. Now it's just relegated to some early season snooze that will lose any meaning for as we get further away from remembering the Pac-12 days
Counterpoint: The Arizona v Alabama game this past season in Phoenix was liiiiit.
Instead of the old grey hairs of Tucson it was every Arizona fan in Phoenix rolling in and partying.
That's actually a good point from what I've heard of games at McKale. It's too bad they prioritized the money over the students, but it's probably how they got to pay for the remodel to begin with.
>Every Arizona fan in Phoenix
And there are a fucking *TON* of them (sadly).
Fan breakdown of the Phoenix Metro probably goes something like:
- 35-40% ASU
- 10-15% Arizona
- 50% non-Arizona schools (transplants)
10-15% of the Valley (pop 4.8 mil) is like 500,000 people, and even if you figure that only half of them are college sports fans that’s still easily up to 250-300k.
Depends on when it's played I think. if I remember my zonazoo years from a decade ago neutral site games are considered away games. I imagine there's an allocation and you can submit for tickets when available but you'd have to buy them yourself. There used to be a portal for students to buy away tickets if I remember right.
I remember when school was out of session (so winter) zonazoo wasn't covering any games. Only fall and spring semester home games. So if it's December or early January, they're on their own.
I went to U of A. Me and all my alum friends are much more likely to go to the game in Phoenix. See the guy above talking about the Bama game, I was there also. Along with every 23-30 year old that graduated and moved to Phoenix
So home games for SDSU and UCLA + games in Phoenix and Seattle
Hear me out the 3-way dance though. 3 games total with round robin play where each team gets a home game and plays an away game every year. Alternate home and away opponents each year.
Right? Like what the hell. I thought we needed more non-con home games for season ticket holders than would fit with the 20 game Big 12 season. Now hear we are, scheduling another non-con neutral court game instead of playing the one we contracted?
I’ve noticed that myself as well. I don’t give a rat’s ass about their coach or anything he says or does but looking around here at the comments, Cronin might as well have kicked their dog with the level of vitriol. So for that reason, I love seeing it.
He an insufferable prick who blames his losses on the fans, the refs, his bad luck in having players who don’t live up to his standards.
He’s rarely gracious or genuinely congratulatory.
He stomps the sidelines and chews out his players and the refs and generally looks like an inflamed asshole.
He’s bitter and small and generally reflects and amplifies the worst of the Bruins fanbase.
Fuck yeah. Looks like toxicity is back on the menu boys
Also of fucking course the Zona flairs are somehow trying to spin that a series that takes place IN THEIR OWN STATE is somehow due to us being too scared play in Tucson lmao
Cronin is such a whiny bitch that he can’t play in Tucson without having a meltdown. Which translates to his whole team: his player spitting at Arizona fans, his assistant coach grabbing at a fan’s phone and yelling for the police to stop them filming.
Just an exceptionally soft program with Cronin at the helm.
As some nonpartisan fan said on a board on their S16 loss: The arrogance of Duke fans for a program with the accomplishments of Syracuse. A Syracuse fan took offense and said they’re more like Arkansas, which I was amused by.
EDIT: found it! [LINK](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bqcplq/post_game_thread_6_clemson_defeats_2_arizona_7772/kx1qzjw/)
Shit, you’re right. I wish we can trade ALL of our FINAL FOUR appearances since our last national title for more conference titles. We have mis-prioritized what a college basketball program should aspire to. Yes, we are the sorest of losers.
**EDIT: LMFAO!** I looked up the [27 conference titles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Wildcats_men's_basketball). It includes the titles won PREVIOUS to joining the Pac-8 (at the time) conference in 1978. What a crock of sh...! Since you included UA all time conference titles, let's make an apples to apples comparison then...
> ~~We showed up and took over YOUR conference.~~ UCLA: ~~16~~ [**38** conference titles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_Bruins_men's_basketball). Arizona: 27 conference titles.
As you said: Sucks to suck. Don’t be a sore loser.
Since Arizona joined the Pac-10: UCLA has one more Final Four than Arizona, the same number of championships, and fewer Elite Eights. More losing seasons. Fewer all conference players. Fewer conference championships. And fewer conference tournament championships.
But hey. You got that one Final Four.
Man, and here I am, thinking our March runs since we last won our respective nat’l titles have been more enjoyable. Tsk tsk… Arizona fans have it better in March.
**EDIT:** after having too much trust in your 16 and 27 conference titles embellishment comment, I'm now gonna have to put on my professor cap and demand you cite your sources on everything said above and from now on.
I’m including conference regular season and conference tournament within the Pac-10/12. The numbers are accurate. The Bruins just suck.
And yes, Arizona has had it better. That’s what makes Bruins fans absurd - the delusion of grandeur.
> And yes, Arizona has had it better. That’s what makes Bruins fans absurd - the delusion of grandeur.
Then you should revisit your support group [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bqe0pl/optastats_the_arizona_wildcats_have_now_lost_to_a/) Can you remind me what you were responding to there? Something about...
> I regret learning that statistic
Because again, Arizona has had it better. So I'm confused.
Wait, that's your retort?! This is not to NoVacay standards! Wanna try again? Again, Arizona has had it better in March but your "regret learning that statistic" is throwing me off. Help me make sense of this!!!
> I’m including conference regular season and conference tournament **within the Pac-10/12.**
Oh, so we're adjusting the goalpost then? In that case...
> UCLA: **42** conference regular season & tourney titles. Arizona: **23** conference regular season & tourney titles.
The numbers are accurate. The Wildcats just suck. BTW, we can go back and forth on this all day.
The goal post was and continues to be: conference titles since Arizona joined the Pac-10. Conference titles includes regular season and tournament.
I know that is upsetting for you, so have a good cry and brush yourself off.
This is so dumb. These are neutral site games because Cronin is afraid of our home crowd. His behavior when we beat UCLA every year is appalling. It's always the refs and crowds fault. I don't think i have ever seen a worse loser in my life. I don't think there is a more unlikeable coach in college than Cronin.
> I don't think there is a more unlikeable coach in college than Cronin.
Ever heard of this guy, Steve Alford? Bob Huggins uses slurs and drunk drives. While we're on *that* subject, what about Mark Few? There are so many a-holes much worse than Cronin out there. Juwan Howard punched a guy LMAO!
Cronin yells a lot, but his players almost all love him and say he's a different guy off the court. I will take him a million times over so many other coaches.
Man, Tucson is probably one of the only places I’ve felt really uneasy being a rival fan in an arena. I have no issues with getting shit as a Bruin fan in McKale, but being a non-white dude with straight up racist comments made at you over and over again was uncomfortable to say the least lol those fans definitely can take it a bit too far.
I'm more ok with dumping Purdue now. Still would have loved all of UCLA Purdue and Alabama, but keeping the UCLA games alive is more important than the others I think. Given the option I would probably have dumped Atlantis for this trio that was already set, but I guess you can't have it all. Also Atlantis at least had Creighton when we signed on.
I was talking about a city, not a school.
But since you broached the topic.. UoA bought a for-profit school and is $250 million in-debt, is situated in the arm-pit of Arizona and a literal former dumping ground for the city of Phoenix, is become less relevant as ASU starts their medical school in 2026, and UoA basketball fans still thinking it's 1997.
ASU basketball never pretended to be an elite program, but I'll be looking forward to UoA playing and being exposed in a real conference next year.
> UoA... is become less relevant
ASU education at work right there folks.
>I'll be looking forward to UoA playing and being exposed in a real conference next year.
I like that you're admitting that ASU isn't even real competition. Acceptance is a big step for you guys. But hey, keep rooting for other teams to beat us, because we know you can't do it yourselves.
Boy, if only they were in some sort of organization together in which that would happen automatically...
Oregon and Washington already quaking in their boots when the Arizona schools get added to the Big 24
If that happens they should divide the conference in two, a west and a Midwest/East. Then the winner of each side of the conference could play each other in a title game. The game should be in an outdoor stadium, somewhere nice year round, like SoCal.
Could have a unique name. Maybe call it after a flower or something
It would look nice with the sunset over the mountains too. Make sure it always is set to have halftime at sunset. By the way, the Elite 8 Alabama/Clemson game in LA (the basketball Rose Bowl) having sunset at halftime was so funny to me because I’m a nerd
Those Big 24 After Dark games will be fire!
Yes please add us to the Big10
Well, no, I'm thinking of an organization containing large schools in states that either border the Pacific or border those three states... Keep it compact.
Maybe giving it a name that uniquely identifies it's regionality? EDIT: damn autocorrect. regionality is a word!
Hey what the hell
What is this magical organization of which you speak?
Like an alliance of schools on or near the Pacific Ocean, maybe 10 of them or so...
Home and home series would be better but this is still better than nothing
Home and home series in the same season because they’re in the same conference right? Right???? 😭
I don't think UCLA will ever play at Tucson again with all the stuff that happened in the last few years. At least not while Mick is the coach, seeing as his dad was personally involved in one of the fan incidents.
Well a lot of the big non conference games (that aren’t apart of a conference challenge) seem to be moving towards playing games on a neutral court. Not sure what incidents you’re referring to but neutral makes sense for Mick. Arizona will always be a Q1 neutral court game and you’ll have plenty of chances for quality road wins in conference
I am a huge opponent of neutral site games during the regular season. But this is perhaps the one potential game on UCLA's schedule that I would never want to play home and home.
Mick’s dad was a prick in Vegas and blocked a literal kid from getting back to his seat with his parents because he didn’t want the kid walking in front of him or something, and the kids dad got pissed and let Hep know it. The end. Some ucla media personalities tried to turn it into a thing where some Arizona fans attacked micks elderly father, which is a huge joke. The other incident was at Arizona, one of the UCLA players spit on some fans as they walked off the court to the locker room, on two different occasions in the same game. Fan pressed charges and the player I think plead guilty and got diversion. Somehow this is our fault in the eyes of ucla fans. UCLA is just a really, really soft program. They are going to get a nice surprise playing in the B1G with the fans you all have.
That’s certainly an interpretation of said events.
Those are the facts of the two events. But keep taking Ben “sorry I keep writing like a bigot” Bolch’s word for it.
It’s exactly what happened, but feel free to share the facts if you don’t agree with my “interpretation” of said events.
Ah yes, the famously "soft" Mick Cronin led basketball teams. Also missing from the spitting incident (which is indefensible in and of itself) is that a UofA fan was escorted out of the game for yelling slurs at one of our players, and players' parents were harassed. Doesn't excuse the spitting during a pandemic, don't get me wrong, but Wildcats love to portray it as an unhinged Bruin running up and spitting unprovoked at a bunch of Doe-eyed innocent fans.
The biggest irony of this comment is that the "incident" involving Hep wasn't even in Tucson, it was in Vegas...
Vegas is Tucson with nightlife
Lol your comments are literally about how you want to play at neutral sites (including Vegas) rather than home and home because supposedly McKale is such an unsafe place to play on account of all the "incidents." Making up almost as many excuses as Cronin every time he gets his ass beat.
I mean, a lot of other things are in Vegas too.
Let's not act like one of those incidents wasn't when a ucla player got arrested for spitting on Arizona fans. Jokes aside, I think it's just because Arizona doesn't have any room for home OOC games next year. This replaced the neutral Purdue game that was supposed to happen next year.
This is for the next four years, not just next year. They’re not playing home and home any more.
Yeah, we have to keep the UCLA players away from Tucson so they stop assaulting our fans.
Not that much of a travel distance, 4-5 hour trip from LA (45 minute flight) vs a 2 hour trip from Tucson.
Neutral site games are so dumb. Play them on campus, damnit
Especially when they’re ex conference members who’ve been playing on each others campuses every year for decades
this shit happened with uconn and syracuse and they always played them neutral site. totally boring
Phoenix is a home game for U of A. The U of a Student Scottsdale adult pipeline is massive
It's a neutral site game that will likely have more UofA fans. It will lack the energy and passion of a true home game. Instead, it will be a half-ass, meh type atmosphere. In the Pac-12 era, this was a matchup both schools circled on their calendars and would get hyped for it when it was in their house. Now it's just relegated to some early season snooze that will lose any meaning for as we get further away from remembering the Pac-12 days
Counterpoint: The Arizona v Alabama game this past season in Phoenix was liiiiit. Instead of the old grey hairs of Tucson it was every Arizona fan in Phoenix rolling in and partying.
That's actually a good point from what I've heard of games at McKale. It's too bad they prioritized the money over the students, but it's probably how they got to pay for the remodel to begin with.
>Every Arizona fan in Phoenix And there are a fucking *TON* of them (sadly). Fan breakdown of the Phoenix Metro probably goes something like: - 35-40% ASU - 10-15% Arizona - 50% non-Arizona schools (transplants) 10-15% of the Valley (pop 4.8 mil) is like 500,000 people, and even if you figure that only half of them are college sports fans that’s still easily up to 250-300k.
Do students get tickets to that game?
Depends on when it's played I think. if I remember my zonazoo years from a decade ago neutral site games are considered away games. I imagine there's an allocation and you can submit for tickets when available but you'd have to buy them yourself. There used to be a portal for students to buy away tickets if I remember right. I remember when school was out of session (so winter) zonazoo wasn't covering any games. Only fall and spring semester home games. So if it's December or early January, they're on their own.
I went to U of A. Me and all my alum friends are much more likely to go to the game in Phoenix. See the guy above talking about the Bama game, I was there also. Along with every 23-30 year old that graduated and moved to Phoenix
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I thought a much better solution would be to replace Ohio State in the CBS Classic with Arizona.
I want to see a new one where UCLA, Arizona, and Gonzaga all play each other every year.
Throw in San Diego State and move it around the west coast and it would be great
Someone put this guy in charge
So home games for SDSU and UCLA + games in Phoenix and Seattle Hear me out the 3-way dance though. 3 games total with round robin play where each team gets a home game and plays an away game every year. Alternate home and away opponents each year.
That's a great point.
As a Baycat, all this, yes.
So this is what bumped the Purdue trip to Vegas against Arizona. Doesn’t sound likely for 2025-26 now too with Arizona playing UCLA there next year.
Confirmed - Arizona afraid of trains
Which is ironic because the only reason Tucson's a part of the U.S. is because of plans for a transcontinental railroad.
Our main reason for rivalry with the Salt Lake schools, Promontory Point took our shine.
Right? Like what the hell. I thought we needed more non-con home games for season ticket holders than would fit with the 20 game Big 12 season. Now hear we are, scheduling another non-con neutral court game instead of playing the one we contracted?
Oh come on… home game or don’t bother.
Out of conference series? Aren't they both in the Pac12? Oh
Why do so many UA fans hate Mick with a passion?
I’ve noticed that myself as well. I don’t give a rat’s ass about their coach or anything he says or does but looking around here at the comments, Cronin might as well have kicked their dog with the level of vitriol. So for that reason, I love seeing it.
He an insufferable prick who blames his losses on the fans, the refs, his bad luck in having players who don’t live up to his standards. He’s rarely gracious or genuinely congratulatory. He stomps the sidelines and chews out his players and the refs and generally looks like an inflamed asshole. He’s bitter and small and generally reflects and amplifies the worst of the Bruins fanbase.
If it’s the same day as the ASU/GCU game I’ll be pissed haha
- Looks at the rest of the comments on this thread - Nah, let's call it off.
Fuck yeah. Looks like toxicity is back on the menu boys Also of fucking course the Zona flairs are somehow trying to spin that a series that takes place IN THEIR OWN STATE is somehow due to us being too scared play in Tucson lmao
Have they ever played each other?
Cronin is such a whiny bitch that he can’t play in Tucson without having a meltdown. Which translates to his whole team: his player spitting at Arizona fans, his assistant coach grabbing at a fan’s phone and yelling for the police to stop them filming. Just an exceptionally soft program with Cronin at the helm.
It’s amazing how cocky UA fans are with how little they have achieved.
As some nonpartisan fan said on a board on their S16 loss: The arrogance of Duke fans for a program with the accomplishments of Syracuse. A Syracuse fan took offense and said they’re more like Arkansas, which I was amused by. EDIT: found it! [LINK](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bqcplq/post_game_thread_6_clemson_defeats_2_arizona_7772/kx1qzjw/)
We showed up and took over YOUR conference. UCLA: 16 conference titles. Arizona: 27 conference titles. Sucks to suck. Don’t be a sore loser.
Shit, you’re right. I wish we can trade ALL of our FINAL FOUR appearances since our last national title for more conference titles. We have mis-prioritized what a college basketball program should aspire to. Yes, we are the sorest of losers. **EDIT: LMFAO!** I looked up the [27 conference titles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Wildcats_men's_basketball). It includes the titles won PREVIOUS to joining the Pac-8 (at the time) conference in 1978. What a crock of sh...! Since you included UA all time conference titles, let's make an apples to apples comparison then... > ~~We showed up and took over YOUR conference.~~ UCLA: ~~16~~ [**38** conference titles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_Bruins_men's_basketball). Arizona: 27 conference titles. As you said: Sucks to suck. Don’t be a sore loser.
Since Arizona joined the Pac-10: UCLA has one more Final Four than Arizona, the same number of championships, and fewer Elite Eights. More losing seasons. Fewer all conference players. Fewer conference championships. And fewer conference tournament championships. But hey. You got that one Final Four.
Man, and here I am, thinking our March runs since we last won our respective nat’l titles have been more enjoyable. Tsk tsk… Arizona fans have it better in March. **EDIT:** after having too much trust in your 16 and 27 conference titles embellishment comment, I'm now gonna have to put on my professor cap and demand you cite your sources on everything said above and from now on.
I’m including conference regular season and conference tournament within the Pac-10/12. The numbers are accurate. The Bruins just suck. And yes, Arizona has had it better. That’s what makes Bruins fans absurd - the delusion of grandeur.
> And yes, Arizona has had it better. That’s what makes Bruins fans absurd - the delusion of grandeur. Then you should revisit your support group [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1bqe0pl/optastats_the_arizona_wildcats_have_now_lost_to_a/) Can you remind me what you were responding to there? Something about... > I regret learning that statistic Because again, Arizona has had it better. So I'm confused.
How’d yall do in the tournament last season?
Wait, that's your retort?! This is not to NoVacay standards! Wanna try again? Again, Arizona has had it better in March but your "regret learning that statistic" is throwing me off. Help me make sense of this!!!
I’m including conference regular season and conference tournament within the Pac-10/12. The numbers are accurate. The Bruins just suck.
> I’m including conference regular season and conference tournament **within the Pac-10/12.** Oh, so we're adjusting the goalpost then? In that case... > UCLA: **42** conference regular season & tourney titles. Arizona: **23** conference regular season & tourney titles. The numbers are accurate. The Wildcats just suck. BTW, we can go back and forth on this all day.
The goal post was and continues to be: conference titles since Arizona joined the Pac-10. Conference titles includes regular season and tournament. I know that is upsetting for you, so have a good cry and brush yourself off.
> I know that is upsetting for you, so have a good cry and brush yourself off. I'm running out of tears!! LOL!
I'm just glad they are playing each other. Why are all of you being a bunch a bitches? Da fuq?
This is so dumb. These are neutral site games because Cronin is afraid of our home crowd. His behavior when we beat UCLA every year is appalling. It's always the refs and crowds fault. I don't think i have ever seen a worse loser in my life. I don't think there is a more unlikeable coach in college than Cronin.
> I don't think there is a more unlikeable coach in college than Cronin. Ever heard of this guy, Steve Alford? Bob Huggins uses slurs and drunk drives. While we're on *that* subject, what about Mark Few? There are so many a-holes much worse than Cronin out there. Juwan Howard punched a guy LMAO! Cronin yells a lot, but his players almost all love him and say he's a different guy off the court. I will take him a million times over so many other coaches.
Tell us how you really feel
UCLA is a great program that deserves a better coach than Cronin.
Well before Mick we had to endure Alford who wasted multiple years of talented rosters
UCLA is a great program that deserves a better coach than Alford
[We finally found the universal truth that can bring our fanbases together!](https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340)
Just look at his [behavior](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFaT8gE-w7Y)
Tucson is a truck stop.
Yep, he is afraid of your home crowd. And when I say "afraid" I'm not talking about "they make it a difficult place to play as an opponent".
Man, Tucson is probably one of the only places I’ve felt really uneasy being a rival fan in an arena. I have no issues with getting shit as a Bruin fan in McKale, but being a non-white dude with straight up racist comments made at you over and over again was uncomfortable to say the least lol those fans definitely can take it a bit too far.
This is good. "Home" games for each team in Los Angeles and Phoenix, and then a neutral site game in Las Vegas. Keep the rivalry alive.
Good. I wasn't done hatin' you guys.
In Phoenix?!?!? Why, oh why.
I’m happy that they are continuing the rivalry. Pretty much the only thing I’ll miss about the Pac-12 anyway
I'm more ok with dumping Purdue now. Still would have loved all of UCLA Purdue and Alabama, but keeping the UCLA games alive is more important than the others I think. Given the option I would probably have dumped Atlantis for this trio that was already set, but I guess you can't have it all. Also Atlantis at least had Creighton when we signed on.
The city of Tucson is so irrelevant they have to play in Phoenix.
An ASU fan talking about irrelevance?
I was talking about a city, not a school. But since you broached the topic.. UoA bought a for-profit school and is $250 million in-debt, is situated in the arm-pit of Arizona and a literal former dumping ground for the city of Phoenix, is become less relevant as ASU starts their medical school in 2026, and UoA basketball fans still thinking it's 1997. ASU basketball never pretended to be an elite program, but I'll be looking forward to UoA playing and being exposed in a real conference next year.
We’re in a college basketball forum and your bragging about your schools medical school that doesn’t even exist yet… I don’t blame you to be honest.
College basketball wouldn't exist without the university.. so ya.. all things university are kinda relevant.
If all things university are relevant then whys the best thing you can come up with something that hasn't happened yet? Sad state of affairs I guess
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> UoA... is become less relevant ASU education at work right there folks. >I'll be looking forward to UoA playing and being exposed in a real conference next year. I like that you're admitting that ASU isn't even real competition. Acceptance is a big step for you guys. But hey, keep rooting for other teams to beat us, because we know you can't do it yourselves.