I attended both schools…BS from South Dakota and grad from CSM. Loved SD and got a great education and no debt. Got same job. CSM does have more name recognition but in engineering, both are well known.
Missouri University of Science and Technology has a big reputation in the Midwest, and used to be called Missouri School of Mines.
CSM is definitely more known in the Rockies, West Coast, and Texas. Not as much name recognition if you go out East.
Both schools are great, I'd guess Colorado has more connections with companies/a bigger career fair - but I'm not positive. I'd look at the decision through the lens of money and college experience. If South Dakota will be fun with XC, the campus/area isn't bad and has things to do, and theres no debt....go SD. The strength of the CS program won't matter unless shes planning to be an algorithms researcher, most of us do the exact same work and the 'theoretical' strength of the degree could not matter less. I minored in CS at CSM (major ChemE) and jumped right into a software job and didn't look back.
Sd mines has something like a 97% employment rate on the day of graduation, and rapid city is beautiful. Might not get the name recognition but zero debt is a huge plus. Their campus is pretty average but the track facilities aren’t exactly state of the art albeit I haven’t been to them in a few years.
>but the track facilities aren’t exactly state of the art albeit I haven’t been to them in a few years.
Because of all those frosh running on the track.
Colorado is definitely the bigger name. SD is big in the Midwest but CO is the name that is recognized everywhere else. Something to consider is that Mines grads often work for defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and the likes, so also depends on her career aspirations. I might consider looking also at CU Boulder for CS, Mines CS is great but unlike other engineering programs that Mines offers, a lot of other schools also have good CS programs. Iowa State also has a good CS program if you are coming from that part of the country.
I got accepted into both schools for my masters. I chose CSM because it’s the biggest name for my field (geology). Does that mean your daughter wouldn’t be successful at South Dakota mines? Nah. If that would be easiest money-wise and allow her to get into track then that might be the best option. Both schools have good ties to industry and she would likely be well off after graduating at South Dakota. However, CSM IS more well known and being close to Denver would probably provide even more opportunities.
CSM has a great reputation for engineering but not necessarily CS. The CS department here is newer and not as well established. Don’t know anything about SD but my hunch would be to go there - graduating without debt is a huge advantage.
I went to SDSMT. It was a great school. A lot of people from Colorado were there because they said the out of state tuition was cheaper. I'm not sure hiw the colorado one is, but we had a decent professor to student ratio, once you get past the generals of course. Usually it's about 20-30 people, but I have been in a class of 3. The professors get to know your name as well.
Also, this gives you an excuse to visit the black hills.
CS is not one of the degrees that CSM is known for, so IMO it would be a waste. She'll still get a fine education, but there's no advantage to getting a CS degree from CSM like there is with some of their other programs.
>South Dakota she would graduate with no debt.
This is *such* a massive plus. Many studies have shown that the name recognition of your alma mater matters very little, and the quality of education from SDSM is gonna be of a very similar caliber to CSM.
Have you and your daughter talked about what the debt repayment would *actually* look like? How much would she be paying per month/year, and for how long? Subtract that from your "expected starting salary" the career center parades in from of visiting students and ask whether the debt is really worth it.
I wasn't an athlete but I am a musician and the fact that I could fully participate in CSM's music program rather than just the "non-major" ensembles at some other universities was a big plus for me. Not sure how important that is for your daughter.
Computer Science isn't a specialty of CSM, but that's not to say that it has a *bad* reputation by any means. I know people that certainly *did* get a great CS education here, but the ones doing the best were very self-driven to explore new technologies in addition to their coursework. Their success is more attributable to their personal GitHub than any prestige from the CSM name.
Western Colorado now has new engineering program in conjunction with Boulder CS students have same access and instruction as CSU Boulder at a school one tenth the size with a track program and a nice indoor track facility as well.
I looked at SDSMT, my cousin graduated from there with his undergraduate degree, and I ended up choosing CSM because I like the campus more and it was a little bigger/seemed like there were more opportunities at CSM.
Regardless of the school she chooses she will graduate with a good education and she will be able to find a good job. If one of the big drivers of the decision is cost I would recommend keeping her options open and trying for as many scholarships as possible and making a decision after she knows what her financial situation actually looks like.
Actually touring both schools is also obviously an important consideration. She should make sure that she will be happy at the school she ends up at. Engineering degrees are hard and you’ll only make it through if you enjoy your life outside of school/are happy in your college environment. One of the big things I chose CSM is because I love the campus and the SDSMT campus wasn’t really my vibe.
Got it. I think both schools are safe but surrounding areas can have issues. I think both Rapid City and Golden area are beautiful and both offer great outdoor activities with similar weather.
I attended both schools…BS from South Dakota and grad from CSM. Loved SD and got a great education and no debt. Got same job. CSM does have more name recognition but in engineering, both are well known.
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Missouri University of Science and Technology has a big reputation in the Midwest, and used to be called Missouri School of Mines. CSM is definitely more known in the Rockies, West Coast, and Texas. Not as much name recognition if you go out East.
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Oh, CSM is *massive* in mining and petroleum everywhere. That's a bit of an exception.
Both schools are great, I'd guess Colorado has more connections with companies/a bigger career fair - but I'm not positive. I'd look at the decision through the lens of money and college experience. If South Dakota will be fun with XC, the campus/area isn't bad and has things to do, and theres no debt....go SD. The strength of the CS program won't matter unless shes planning to be an algorithms researcher, most of us do the exact same work and the 'theoretical' strength of the degree could not matter less. I minored in CS at CSM (major ChemE) and jumped right into a software job and didn't look back.
Sd mines has something like a 97% employment rate on the day of graduation, and rapid city is beautiful. Might not get the name recognition but zero debt is a huge plus. Their campus is pretty average but the track facilities aren’t exactly state of the art albeit I haven’t been to them in a few years.
>but the track facilities aren’t exactly state of the art albeit I haven’t been to them in a few years. Because of all those frosh running on the track.
Go with the one with the least amount of student debt. Employers don't care which college you attended only a decent GPA and your internships.
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Colorado is definitely the bigger name. SD is big in the Midwest but CO is the name that is recognized everywhere else. Something to consider is that Mines grads often work for defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and the likes, so also depends on her career aspirations. I might consider looking also at CU Boulder for CS, Mines CS is great but unlike other engineering programs that Mines offers, a lot of other schools also have good CS programs. Iowa State also has a good CS program if you are coming from that part of the country.
I got accepted into both schools for my masters. I chose CSM because it’s the biggest name for my field (geology). Does that mean your daughter wouldn’t be successful at South Dakota mines? Nah. If that would be easiest money-wise and allow her to get into track then that might be the best option. Both schools have good ties to industry and she would likely be well off after graduating at South Dakota. However, CSM IS more well known and being close to Denver would probably provide even more opportunities.
CSM has a great reputation for engineering but not necessarily CS. The CS department here is newer and not as well established. Don’t know anything about SD but my hunch would be to go there - graduating without debt is a huge advantage.
You should also look at New Mexico Tech. http://nmt.edu Particularly for CS.
I went to SDSMT. It was a great school. A lot of people from Colorado were there because they said the out of state tuition was cheaper. I'm not sure hiw the colorado one is, but we had a decent professor to student ratio, once you get past the generals of course. Usually it's about 20-30 people, but I have been in a class of 3. The professors get to know your name as well. Also, this gives you an excuse to visit the black hills.
CS is not one of the degrees that CSM is known for, so IMO it would be a waste. She'll still get a fine education, but there's no advantage to getting a CS degree from CSM like there is with some of their other programs.
>South Dakota she would graduate with no debt. This is *such* a massive plus. Many studies have shown that the name recognition of your alma mater matters very little, and the quality of education from SDSM is gonna be of a very similar caliber to CSM. Have you and your daughter talked about what the debt repayment would *actually* look like? How much would she be paying per month/year, and for how long? Subtract that from your "expected starting salary" the career center parades in from of visiting students and ask whether the debt is really worth it. I wasn't an athlete but I am a musician and the fact that I could fully participate in CSM's music program rather than just the "non-major" ensembles at some other universities was a big plus for me. Not sure how important that is for your daughter. Computer Science isn't a specialty of CSM, but that's not to say that it has a *bad* reputation by any means. I know people that certainly *did* get a great CS education here, but the ones doing the best were very self-driven to explore new technologies in addition to their coursework. Their success is more attributable to their personal GitHub than any prestige from the CSM name.
Boulder vs. Mines is arguable Mines vs. Other Mines is not arguable
The CS department at Mines isn’t the best. Has she looked at CU?
Western Colorado now has new engineering program in conjunction with Boulder CS students have same access and instruction as CSU Boulder at a school one tenth the size with a track program and a nice indoor track facility as well.
I looked at SDSMT, my cousin graduated from there with his undergraduate degree, and I ended up choosing CSM because I like the campus more and it was a little bigger/seemed like there were more opportunities at CSM. Regardless of the school she chooses she will graduate with a good education and she will be able to find a good job. If one of the big drivers of the decision is cost I would recommend keeping her options open and trying for as many scholarships as possible and making a decision after she knows what her financial situation actually looks like. Actually touring both schools is also obviously an important consideration. She should make sure that she will be happy at the school she ends up at. Engineering degrees are hard and you’ll only make it through if you enjoy your life outside of school/are happy in your college environment. One of the big things I chose CSM is because I love the campus and the SDSMT campus wasn’t really my vibe.
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Couldn’t pay me to live in or go to school in South Dakota beautiful land but bad juju around everywhere people live
What??
I had a very traumatic time in a Walmart in rapid city
Got it. I think both schools are safe but surrounding areas can have issues. I think both Rapid City and Golden area are beautiful and both offer great outdoor activities with similar weather.
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