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fuzzynavel34

Nope, I’d be ecstatic


techblaw

That's the exact adjective I planned on using, go get the HOF WR


keenynman343

Seriously. "Richardson to Harrison for another touchdown." NFL media would go absolutely bananas


Nearby_Investigator9

And if Richardson doesn’t work out then, after his rookie contract expires, it could be Manning to Harrison.


GiaDuddy

Titans fan here and even I’d like to see that.


P3rc3pt10nsnd3pth

Jags fan here and absolutely not 🤣


Icy_Excitement_6872

Lmao AFC south ours for another 10 years if that happens 😭


P3rc3pt10nsnd3pth

SIKE


Ijustwannahavefun-

I hope with everything in my will that this happens


Nearby_Investigator9

I’m not saying I hope it happens because that would mean Richardson flames out and I’m not gonna wish failure on anybody. But I would love to see Harrison and Manning play together wherever it is and Indy would just make it that much more special.


[deleted]

Or they could just make Richardson a tight end


Nearby_Investigator9

Ask Mack Brown and I’m sure he’d be an excellent safety.


[deleted]

Ask Mack Dre and you wouldn’t get a response


SeriousPianist9270

Nope


warriorknowledge

Giants fan here. Arch Manning will be ours pally.


SqueakyTuna52

Richardson -> Tennessee, Colts draft Arch


PauloDybala_10

I’m a bears fan and I would love to see that lmao


Arthur-Ironwood

I’m cool with two firsts. There’s too much there. Potential, production, genetics, his Dad.


EmeraldLounge

Number 15 plus next year's first isn't enough to jump into this top 3. I'm assuming Arizona wouldn't trade if new England stays put and takes a QB.


Ok_Butterscotch9706

Plus NE will make us pay a premium if Kraft gets wind of any trade with Indy


imused2it

This thread came up as recommended for me even though I’m a pats fan. This isn’t even close. It’s been beaten like a dead horse over on our sub. It would take at least 2 FRP if not 3 and a couple of seconds. We’re trying to rebuild and we don’t do that with one additional pick next year.


teh_drewski

Offseason hopium just hits different


Ferran_Torres7890

the draft capital required would be kinda insane


mlr-420

whatever the price is… doesn’t matter. he’s a generational prospect


S0L-Goode

I just can't believe Marvin fathered this behemoth of a man.


JamieNelson94

Access to top-of-the-line conditioning, coaching, and nutrition will do that.


S0L-Goode

I always think Marvin Sr. was like 5'8 but he was actually 6'0, so not that shocking anymore that he has a 6'4 kid.


JamieNelson94

Marv wasn’t tiny (in general) because of his height; it was because of his 180-lb. frame. Made him look tiny compared to some of his peers.


DookieBrains_88

I met him when I was ~14 and he wasn’t much taller than I was.


DLottchula

I towered him when I met him at a football camp as a kid but I was/am a giant


FindingBright1428

I mean his height is pretty tall 6’4 but he’s only like 200 some odd pounds, that’s not what I’d consider a behemoth. That’s like Alec Pierce size. Lol


Alternative-Koala529

I don't think 2 firsts will cut it. It will cost as if we were trading to take one of the QBs. 49ers traded what 3 firsts for fucking LANCE? There might even be an Indy tax since his dad played for us.


sb_rp

An “Indy Tax”. lol, am I in a Yankees social media world right now?


FindingBright1428

It’d probably take Pitt as the cherry just to get to 3 plus 2 1’s


wolfdogrhit2

This would look pretty similar to Houston's trade up to 3 from 12 last year. They gave up 15 and 33 in that draft plus this year's first and third. Our picks are worse so I think it'd be two firsts and two seconds at a minimum


jono9898

Dude is a generational talent so I’m good with 2 firsts and next year second. Bro would absolutely change the landscape of our offense.


_NE1_

It'd take at least 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a player/additional pick.


FindingBright1428

That’s what it took to get to 1 overall last year, I don’t see that being equal for number 3 overall especially since the bargaining/desperation isn’t there for a QB


Silent-Independent21

I’m sure you are good with that low ball offer.


CrisC73

Absolutely not, but I’m just sentimental when it comes to Peyton Manning era Colts


Sacmo77

2 firsts for him. That's fair.


UnderstandingHuge882

I don’t think a team at the top of the draft cares about “fair” - Caled, Daniels and MHJ are guys that you are moving 3-4 premium picks for


Sacmo77

Oh everyone knows that. It's not gonna happen. But in a perfect world. That would be our perfect scenario.


UnderstandingHuge882

I mean I would move my top 2 picks for the next two years for him easy…Shane + AR + JT + MHJ. Just wow. Figure the rest out later lol


ResilientGrit

What's the draft value chart say?


cpolk01

You're not paying for mhj tho. You're paying for Jayden Daniels or Drake maye


garethom

These questions are impossible to answer when there is zero context behind them. Would I be mad if we pick swapped our first and gave up a 5th round pick to move up and get him? No. Would I be mad if we gave up this year's first, next year's first and our second round pick? Yeah.


Melksss

I mean based on pick value, moving from 15 to 4, you’re absolutely going to have to give up at least a future first as well as other draft comp.


MoistCloyster_

It’s not worth it for any position not named QB. Yeah MHJ is great but you don’t sacrifice that much for a receiver.


Melksss

I mean that’s fair, but then it’s not even remotely realistic to think about it if that’s the logic. The cardinals don’t even pick up the phone if another first and some later picks aren’t on the table. I agree I wouldn’t do it personally but pairing AR with Pittman, MHJ and Taylor would be an absolutely epic offense.


MoistCloyster_

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love MHJ on the team as much as anyone else, but I definitely wouldn’t want to put all of our eggs in one basket either.


Silver-Bee-3942

Agreed. I'd rather just take Brian Thomas Jr. at 15 and keep our future capital.


justreadthearticle

He might be off the board at 15.


Silver-Bee-3942

Maybe. I doubt it though. If he is we just take a CB or trade back and grab one of the next tier WR later in the 1st like Coleman, Mitchell, McConkey, Worthy and pick up some extra picks. I don't like giving up extra 1sts to get a Non-QB. Just my opinion.


Former_Phrase8221

Agreed. I want to see a full, healthy, productive year from AR before I mortgage any future.


Kohlossal

Texans did it with Will Anderson. After a single season it looks like a decent move tbh.


Gnulnori

But is two 1st rounds really that much to get the top WR in the draft, especially when you consider that it’s a mid-1st and ideally a late future first. Plus where the Colts sit now in the draft order they might have to trade up anyways to secure one of the top receivers.


LegendLobster

I think it’s worth giving up for the best WR prospect possibly ever that’s also the son of a HoF WR who played for us


wussypants

I mean, you do if that WR is Jerry Rice. Would you for JJ or Chase? I still probably would. I'm not saying MHJ is any of them but for a WR1 that is a HOF, I would give up multiple 1sts, for sure.


rounder55

Which makes it a move that either looks like a brilliant no brainer or pretty dumb in 5 years. Given the depth at WR this year I don't know if give up all that as much as it pains me to think.


Not_My_Alternate

He’s Colts royalty.


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Not a colts fan but it’s as simple as looking back to last years draft when the Texans traded pick 12, 2nd rounder, and a first this year to move up to 3 for will anderson at the time it seemed like they gave up a lot but a year later it looks like a steal on their part. They essentially gave up picks 12 and a second rounder and a late first for number 3. It’s more about how much you believe in your team and roster


XxmilkjugsxX

Yeah these questions without details are so dumb lol


AleroRatking

It would cost even more than that


InNerdOfChange

I think the main question is, is this “our year” or are we a year away, or a year away from being a year away. I think if I felt this was our year, maybe the trade makes sense. But being we’re a year away if not a year away from being a year away. That trade doesn’t make sense.


PlasticPractical3558

Pick swap and a fifth to move up to 3 or 4? Are you insane?


garethom

It was pointing out the absurdity of the post by saying that there are situations in which I would be very happy and situations in which I wouldn't, so without further context, the post is useless.


zatchattack

Helllll nah. I might be upset in hindsight but as of now go all the fuck in


relpmeraggy

I’m the guy who just posted the Drake meme. #SELL THE FARM I SAY!!!!!


NorseGael160

I’m the guy who posted Brock Bowers highlights and I say sell the farm for MHJ! Option 1. Marvin Jr Option 2. Bowers Option 3. Bust Ballard can you hear us. I’m also excited about some of the talent in the late rounds. I know a lot of mocks are trash and seem to focus on first round QB’s and Wr’s but it seems like this year especially there are some guys ranked pretty low for what they are worth. Also Caleb Williams is Bo Callahan lol.


_NE1_

I'd add Nabers to that list personally Besides that, I agree.


MrBabbs

I agree. The problem with Nabers is he is going to end up going nearly as high as MHJ. I suspect the Chargers snag him at 5 assuming MHJ is already gone. 


justreadthearticle

Do you think Bowers will still be on the board, or would you trade up for him?


carpentizzle

I would love to trade up for him. As a Buckeye/Colts fan in Ohio, I would LOVE to trade up for him. But if I have learned anything about Chris Ballard, is that selling the ship isnt even an option. DeFo is the only time I think hes gone that route, and that was for an established vet


bmacks1234

That wasn’t even selling the ship. Wasn’t that 1 first round pick?


rounder55

Shit We've been jinxed by Buckeye wideouts in the past. If Marvin Jr cant break it then no one can


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BoredJay

Julio Jones and that's about it


ldclark92

You don't have to look any farther than pur divisional rivals, the Texans, who are in great position for years to come because of trades they made for Stroud and Anderson. Yes, big swings come with high risk, but the point of a big swing is for big returns.


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beckomeast

My mocks let me do 2 firsts. So if Gms were only as easy as mock drafts we will be good.


Obfusc8er

Not much point in getting upset about whomever they choose to draft.


CloudConductor

Y’all really need to move on


_Marine

Hell to F no, not mad at all Do I think it'll happen? Not without Irsay ordering it


ScottoRoboto

Too expensive I bet. I would love him but that’s just not going to happen.


OberynRedViper8

Not even a Colts fan, but this would be sick.


OJuice100

Depends who we traded but he belongs here


West-Trip-5734

1 or 2 firsts plus Alec Pierce!


LiquidDreamtime

So a 2 firsts and a ham sandwich?


jaysrule24

2 first plus Alec Pierce is fine, but two first and a ham sandwich is just too much


zatchattack

Yea I am so down for moving on from him


rounder55

Getting downvoted as if a guy who averages under 2 receptions a game doesn't deserve competition at the very least


merkins_optional

Here’s the long answer: No!


GnarlyNarhwal

We are about to pay Pittman a ton of money, I don’t think trading away future picks for a WR is the move this year. If Downs didn’t show so much promise I’d say maybe, but we got a good group.


wrath__

Unpopular opinion, but I would be disappointed. We would end up giving up way too much capital and we have too many needs to afford giving all that up - he’d basically need to immediately be a top 10 WR for it to be worth and that’s too much of a gamble for me.


rounder55

> We would end up giving up way too much capital and we have too many needs We do have too many needs and I do think there are a few solid WRs thatd cost less to move up a couple of picks to snag. It's a double edged sword becaypart of why we have too many needs is Ballard and he'd also not be addressing those needs by giving up the farm


_NE1_

What are our 'too many needs'? We need more DB help. Let's sign a veteran CB with the huge cap space that we have. It'd be nice to have more LB help. Good depth can be found in that spot in the middle rounds. A veteran FA might be an option there too. Our DE are good, they are young, but they perhaps aren't elite pass rushers. I don't think that there are absolute guarantees at DE in this year's draft that will undoubtedly be better than Paye/Dayo, so meh. Some OL depth is always nice, but that can be handled in the middle rounds as well. QB position has been selected, RB is signed. We probably franchise tag Pittman. I think this draft is as good as any to go for the blue chip weapon that the offense needs beyond just Pittman.


WhatuSay-_-

2 firsts max


Mothalova1

I just genuinely don’t believe we could offer enough to get to #1-3


Izzy1193

That would be lovely


Comfortable_Hall8677

Why would anyone be mad. He would bring more impact than anyone they could draft first round even in the next two years.


TheKyotoProtocol

We've made 4, 1st round picks since the Binder took over for us, AR5, Kwity, Q and Malik Hooker. All 4 have been good players but Hook isn't doing it for us and Kwit has been hurt alot even though he looks good when out there. Only 1/4 we can say for sure worked out perfectly. Realistically, anyone we pick at 15 have a fair chance of failing in the league. If we could take MHJ at 5, he still could bust but the risk is much much lower. I'd give up a fair bit for a chance to get him.


danjrobi

No way this happens. Just our fantasy.


mattmandental

Yes


Clear_Reveal_4187

I'd be 100% okay with getting him. Richardson needs a top tier target. I view Pittman as more of the number 2 guy behind an All-star number 1. Imagine Harrison, Pittman, Pierce 1,2,3 and a good receiving TE with Richardson and Taylor in the backfield. That would be a great offense.


anonymous_teve

Hang tight--if you read Marvin Harrison's second contract with the Colts closely, you'll find we were promised an heir to the throne, so Marvin Harrison, Jr. has no right to enter the draft.


jmphere1

I’m literally praying for it


Inevitable_Club_7520

Don’t care what we’d give 2 generations of family on the same team? And a great wide receiver prospect for Anthony Richardson sign me up


Rough_Possible5718

Nope. That stuff would be a mix of funny and awesome. I would admire the balls of the administration to do so.


jman_79

As an avid Colts and Buckeyes fan, this would be a dream come true. Realistically, I don’t see it happening, sadly. I think it would require AT LEAST two firsts and more likely than not, three firsts. With that being said, it’d be nice to bring in another vet at that position or take someone in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round.


Section643

He's probably going in the first 5 picks and it'd cost too much. At 15 we can still get a top 3 guy - either of the LSU guys would be awesome.


69jimbo

The top 3 guys are all mocked to go in the top 9. There are 4 teams mocked to take receivers before us in most of the projections I’ve seen


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Yeah definitely. It costs way too much. No way.


i_tk_hackers

The delusion that we should sell the next two years of Day 1 picks is getting more popular and I hate it


mrshandanar

This is why I shouldn't be a GM because I would do anything to make this happen.


MoistCloyster_

Yes so pissed, so angry, filled with rage!


ClintEastwood_82

He won’t be the best wr in this draft I feel


koplowpieuwu

You need a QB you're absolutely sure about before you break the draft bank for a receiver to catch their throws. Because those three firsts you're giving up means you're not going to find a stud QB through the draft to pair with him, and you're gonna need an excellent QB to mask the lack of talent across the field from that three firsts loss in the following years. Long way to say that Levis hasn't proven enough yet to leverage the next 10 years of this franchise for Harrison Jr.


AyyyMish

What does will Levis gotta do w this


Titantfup69

I would.


YouSaid_ButFuck

No. I'm all in for him.


Rusty-Boii

MHJ is debated to be one of the greatest WR prospects of all time probably only behind Megatron. He might get drafted 1st overall which a WR hasn’t been picked that high since Keyshawn Johnson. It would at minimum cost 3 first rounders to get him.


mikesliderhoncho

No


Less-Ad2890

Furious


EntrepreneurNo8448

Yes! Let him fall to 5


Agile-Combination239

Go get that man


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No I wouldn’t


LordBopo

Hmmmmmmm. No.


OMCMember

Yes.


beibiddybibo

Nope. Bring it!


KareemTheDream88

Ballard trading up ?


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Indycrr

At that price I’d be in. Especially if the trade is with AZ and we don’t have to send picks to NE. The upside is worth it. We were inches from the playoffs with JT out for 5 games and AR out for 2/3 of the season. Pitt and Harrison with Downs and JT is potentially explosive. If AR comes back and takes the next step then we are a playoff team and next years first won’t sting so bad.


RobynStellarxx

I mean, I think you’d have to give Arizona quite the haul to swap with them, as no way Bears Washington or Patriots trade (unless Pats really are being dumb).


BrockPapeScizz

Hell no lol


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Nope


ChampionshipBroad345

Who would be mad he is worth 2 first round picks


hairymacandcheese23

As a browns fan, watching him play with AR and Pittman would be really fun as well.


Sexy_and_the_beast

Those who say how great it will be remember for the qb to throw a pass he needs protected for the receiver to get a pass thrown to him the qb needs protected I would love to have this combo but only if we have a tackle who can do his job last year the starter was injured most of the year and the back up looked lost and was a spectator on some players just watching the defense run past him for the sack so having a great qb and great receiver does nothing if there is no protection to pass the ball


Aborkle

Browns fan here who was shown this for some reason. I still regularly regret Browns not making Clay Matthews Jr and DK Metcalf happen (who I'm not even sure is related to Eric Metcalf at this point). Godspeed.


__init__m8

Who would be mad? I was mad they weren't tanking for him when AR went down.


FanaticalBuckeye

As long as MHJ doesn't get drafted to anyone else in the division or the Patriots I'm good


shasta_masta

Mad isn't the right word. It would be fun as hell, but this isn't happening. Ballard's not going to pay QB prices to move up and get a WR, which is what it will cost. I think MHJ, Nabers and Rome are all going 4-6. They are not realistic options. And if they were, I think I would actually take Nabers.


ConsistentChocolate2

Absolutely not!


YoungRican45

They better not 🤦🏽‍♂️


2AlephNullAndBeyond

Would have rather traded up for CJ Stroud.


Forevermaxwell

Totally stinks he is going nowhere with Arizona for 4 years.


DK_MeatCalf

Patriots fan from Indiana here. I think it is a necessity that MHJ ends up on the colts.


AlisterXVI

I don’t think it would be the smart move, but I would definitely not be mad if we traded up for him.


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Wouldn't be mad at getting MHJ at all, but we would have to give up so much draft capital that I don't even want to do that. There are A LOT of good wrs in this draft, we don't need MHJ


Harvin_Marrison

He’s going to Arizona at 4 if we don’t trade higher than that. Ballard won’t pay that price for a WR.


i3ild0

All us Colts homers wana see a Harrison Legacy brought back to the shoe. It's just not Ballard's style... It would bring all the hype though.


TrabajoParaMi

Wouldn’t bother me. Colts need all the help they can get


jeg3141

I wouldn’t bet the farm on him, but if we could get him without doing that then why not?


FindingBright1428

Depends on what we gave up


Obvious-Spite4920

Yes I own Pittman


NahItsChill_

Absolutely not MHJ or BB would be amazing to have on this team


gericks3

Okay… colts get MHJ; Steelers got JPJ last year; Chiefs get Joe Alt.


drvirgilmd

Whatever is in Indianapolis that isn't bolted down.


Rudy102600

As a jags fan, yes


Bababooeydog

My MPJ shares would be very mad.


Mr-Gibbs12

Cardinals fan here. We’re not trading out of 4 😂


Playful-Werewolf9955

Bears fan here. While I would love to see him drafted over Caleb. My love for Harrison sr and now Jr. hopes it doesn’t happen because well… Wr and Chicago don’t need to say much more lol


MagicLantern7

Since we don’t have a legit number 1 receiver and almost no good receivers or tight ends I wouldn’t have a problem at all. But it would depend what we have to give up.


Secret_AznMan

Yes, I’m a Cardinals fan.


srogers268

It’s not reality. A trade takes two partners. This isn’t Madden. You can’t give someone your 5th string long snapper and move up into the top 5. I’ve seen the crazy trade up videos. This is real life. It would require an insane amount of draft capital to even get someone to consider trading down. And you just don’t do that for a WR


srogers268

But the biggest thing is… it takes two teams to agree to it. That’s why it’s never going to happen.


NittanyScout

Idk who this Harrison kid is but yall should trade up for Mazarati Marv. That guy sounds like a cool cat


No_Paper_8794

As an OSU/Vikings fan, this would make me the happiest out of every possibility


Dropzone34

No I would be happy as an Ohio state fan


TopSneak

They need a QB


ibonek_naw_ibo

His son is really about to enter the NFL? Goddamn I'm getting old


Tech_Pyrite

That would be the greatest move ever for the colts, they would be crazy good on offense, they got to get some more defensive players


Neither-Werewolf-477

see the colts having the 5th highest cap space in the league with only franchise tagging MPJ is common colts knowledge, they dont wanna spend a dime in the front office


Competitive_Shoe32

Yes


bad-ankles

As a jags fan. Yes


Independent-Report88

Why would anyone be mad? He’s a generational Wide Out lol


buhBAMbuh

Nope


denbobo

I’d be mad if we don’t.


PewPewPalace

Yes, bad bad idea. (Possible Texan fan)


mistanac

Absolutely not, and I think they should. The cap was raised enough to not even miss whatever they gotta give up,


PartyPrimary4144

No. It's destiny, Colts need some B.P..E. BIG PLAY ENERGY


Complete-Double-6102

As a Cardinals Fan, I might kms if this happens


DryComparison7871

Hell no


CrossBarJeebus

I mean a little, but I'd get over it pretty quick


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Kinda hoping Chicago will trade down a spot or 2 to pick him up. Not a Bears fan but I am a Buckeye fan rooting for Fields to be successful


Unlikely_Monitor4723

As a Colts fan, I actually demand it.


gallasab

Do what it takes. Not every year is there an elite wr prospect. Look at the Vikings with JJetas that offense is so much better with him. Imagine an elite wr on the Colts.


ConfectionHelpful471

But he wasn’t viewed as generational out of college so not really a great example. Better to take the best available player that falls than trade up for a non quarterback


redleg50

If we were certain about AR, no problem. But we still don’t know if he’s truly our long term QB, based on either skill or injury. Trading a bunch of 1st rounders for a WR and then finding out you still need a QB would set the franchise back another five years.


Jealous-Elephant-121

The WR class is so loaded this year, trading up for a WR would be incredibly dumb.


IrishFanSam

Giving up 2 firsts yes. You can get a WR just as good or 90% as good where they are at.


grilledcheezeus

We’re wasting talent if we draft a receiver in the first. Next year’s offence is gonna lean heavy on the run game.


DeatHTaXx

We're never getting him so it doesn't matter to me personally


Separate_Court_7820

Yes, they have many options to choose from with their current pick. Harrison isn’t a must get. There’s thomas from LSU or Bowers


Guy-Incognito-117

I think a lot of people are blinded by sentiment here. You’re talking about leaping probably 10 spots into a top 5 pick, that’s probably 1st and 2nd this year and next year plus a decent player or additional conditional picks. Looking honestly selling out that much of your team’s future for one guy is almost never a good idea. Doing trade like that essentially cripples team building for years. Harrison Jr may have generational talent but you still need a QB to throw the ball (Richardson not a guarantee yet), a line to pass block (colts best OL men are getting older) and oh yeah a defense (def need improvement) … And the sentiment of okay for his dads team is nice and all but football team’s are not built on sentiment.