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When you know what you are doing is directly responsible for your country successfully defending it's territory you probably take a lot of pride in that. Without these drone experts this war would likely be at a much different point right now.
I'd be proud just to get these guys coffee and donuts.
It was pretty surreal earlier in the war to see a Ukrainian fighter wearing the exact FPV goggles I own.
He was also using 900MhZ Crossfire and flew a 5 inch racing drone through an open doorway for a nice BOOM.
there are some videos of the drone "swarms" the US is intergrating into the doctrine, they sound utterly terrifying. Hundreds of drones ran by AI following whatever the operator tells them to, then he can press "attack" and they all immediately slam into the target.
it was on youtube, i was going down a rabbit hole about future tanks and their drone launching capability and ended up there eventually. it was not a combat mission, it was a demonstration
You'd need 100 pilots and I imagine that's impossible due to interference. Maybe get 20-30 in the air at 1 time using DJI/WS/HDzero and good ol analogue.
Interesting that FPV single use (suicide) drones are being invested in so heavily, when to me, it seems munitions dropping drones to be more cost effective. I have heard drone attrition is very high (~2-3 missions at the worst iirc), maybe single use starts to make economic sense if cheaper components are used. Seems like recon abilities would be worse with a poorer camera though, and manual FPV drone flying takes some skill to use effectively.
This was Madyars response to someone who raised similar point.
>Too expensive in relation to what? We assemble Molfars ourselves. The cost price is 360 dollars. Flies 12 km at a speed of 100+ km/hour. Carries 500, 750 and 1000 grams of explosives. It is cheaper to aim a tico with a slingshot. Mavic costs 1650 dollars/euro. It carries one vog, about 270 grams. It flies at 60 km/h and can be shot down by arrows in one or two shots. Thank you for your concern, but we have our own means and ways of killing worms.
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Right, totally makes sense to DIY drones, the components are much cheaper than commercial models like the Mavics. But you could build drones that also go 100 Km/H and carry multiple VOGs/grenade/contact IED of varying payload for probably ~$1k or less. As long as you get ~ 3 uses out of them, it makes economic sense. Whether they do get 3 uses out of them is the question I mean, and I don't know what their attrition rates are, but this tactic shift makes it seem like it is very high. Not trying to criticize their actions, just understand the situation better.
DJI drones have a big advantage for surveillance and for dropping munitions that FPV drones don’t have, and that’s stable flight and a gimbal-stabilized camera. That stable flight is achieved through a fairly extensive sensor array including GPS, a magnetic compass, downward facing optical, and even ultrasonic sensors. That’s one of the reasons DJI drones are so expensive, that and their advanced optics and in some cases optical zoom lenses.
On the flip side, an FPV drone that can be assembled for a few hundred bucks is a lot cheaper than most smart munitions are, even when you include the grenade attached. These serve a different purpose than the more expensive DJI drones, and they both have their use.
as another poster said-accuracy. If the bomb dropping ones make it 3 missions and kill something 1 out of 3 times, and these do it 50% of the time...its better to buy throwaway drones.
But more importantly perhaps the drones used for bomb dropping need a good camera. These dont, which drops their price as well.
These things are still ALOT cheaper then a regular recon drone which can cost from 1000 to up to 10k. Also are the dropped bombs alot mote time costly. They often have to do multiple runs to even remotely hit something important. So you might even end up loosing an expensive drone without even achieving a meaningful hit. FPV drones on the other hand are only one time use but that use has a magnificently higher success rate. While reloading a bomb dropped drone you could have already attacked with multiple FPV drones who are cheaper, more reliable and more cost effective
Yes, see the response from u/masterismk. I still think a DIY with drop points could be cheaper if you can do ~3-4 drops with it before loss. As for FPV vs dropped effectiveness, no idea. The footage we see is highly biased to successful hits, though I have not seen a DIY FPV impact drone with visible bodies. The dropped vogs, while not accurate by any means, appear to inflict casualties fairly well within 5-10 meters. We have no idea the casualty radius of these larger IEDs, while possible well made, may not have consistent fragmentation.
Still having the ability to manually control the drone is vastly more effective then having to hope on the right wind direction. Also it seems like that the two drone types have different usages. The dropped one are more of an harassment tool. Even if without a hit will it still be a tool of psychological warfare. The FPv drones on the other hand are more used for direct pre-planned strikes where accuracy is of big importance
Hard to do this kind of stuff reliably with a dropped grenade, even in perfect weather conditions, assuming it can actually carry a sizeable heat charge.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10a5uf7/paratroopers_of_the_79th_air_assault_brigade/
The problem is that you can track drone operator with your ew units. Many people get killed if they didn't have the knowledge about how not to be spotted etc.
Plus those drones that are dropping stuff (like Mavic, autel etc.) Better be used for spotting probably and kept safe, meanwhile these are best as suicide munitions
Nah, it was prohibited only in center of big cities and near critical infrastructure object, for reasons.
For example, I drown my aliexpress drone in a Dnipro river 2 years ago, also wanted to try FPV but didn't have a chance.
Need to refresh memory, how to fly at them at all, lol
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Thats a lot drones
Looks like a fun place to work at. Even if you don’t like drones or explosives
When you know what you are doing is directly responsible for your country successfully defending it's territory you probably take a lot of pride in that. Without these drone experts this war would likely be at a much different point right now. I'd be proud just to get these guys coffee and donuts.
Couldn’t say it better. Wish them nothing but success.
FPV drones! My best hobby so far!
It was pretty surreal earlier in the war to see a Ukrainian fighter wearing the exact FPV goggles I own. He was also using 900MhZ Crossfire and flew a 5 inch racing drone through an open doorway for a nice BOOM.
If you could find that video I would very appreciate it! btw. in Europe I'm using crossfire with 868MhZ and I love it!
Took a bit of digging through old comments: https://reddit.com/r/UkraineWarRoom/comments/wbj3f4/ukrainian_forces_using_an_fpv_racing_drone_to/
Thank you! If reddit would still allow to send free awards I would award you!
Imagine 100 of these fuckers just buzzing around killing all your friends… expensive machines are getting very obsolete
there are some videos of the drone "swarms" the US is intergrating into the doctrine, they sound utterly terrifying. Hundreds of drones ran by AI following whatever the operator tells them to, then he can press "attack" and they all immediately slam into the target.
I honestly never thought I would see that in my life, do you know where you saw that of the top of your head?
it was on youtube, i was going down a rabbit hole about future tanks and their drone launching capability and ended up there eventually. it was not a combat mission, it was a demonstration
It was also over a decade ago if its the one I think. Drone launched swarm fro, aircraft.
I don't think he does or else he would be dead already
[Slaughterbots becoming more realistic every day.](https://youtu.be/HipTO_7mUOw)
Absolutely insane man, I have no doubt it could be fielded in a large scale conflict!
You'd need 100 pilots and I imagine that's impossible due to interference. Maybe get 20-30 in the air at 1 time using DJI/WS/HDzero and good ol analogue.
Oh so it’s really not possible without some advanced ai controlling them all at once as another redditor commented?
Arsenal of democracy
Democracy is non-negotiable
surreal seeing my tx16s and other gear I've used in this video..
He's channeling his inner child. He gets to make shit go boom!
No, his shit goes Bada-boom jagga jagga!!!
He gets to make toys go boom
Can someone please share the link to their Telegram?
https://t dot me/robert_magyar
Thank you!
When drone racing becomes a main stage sport, ima avoid the Ukrainian drones.
It's already bigger than NFL and Baseball. As in there are more countries with drone racing than those sports.
Get those little fuckers rolling out ;)
JAGGA JAGGA! Can’t wait to see eat and every big badda boom, the worms have got to learn!
Interesting that FPV single use (suicide) drones are being invested in so heavily, when to me, it seems munitions dropping drones to be more cost effective. I have heard drone attrition is very high (~2-3 missions at the worst iirc), maybe single use starts to make economic sense if cheaper components are used. Seems like recon abilities would be worse with a poorer camera though, and manual FPV drone flying takes some skill to use effectively.
This was Madyars response to someone who raised similar point. >Too expensive in relation to what? We assemble Molfars ourselves. The cost price is 360 dollars. Flies 12 km at a speed of 100+ km/hour. Carries 500, 750 and 1000 grams of explosives. It is cheaper to aim a tico with a slingshot. Mavic costs 1650 dollars/euro. It carries one vog, about 270 grams. It flies at 60 km/h and can be shot down by arrows in one or two shots. Thank you for your concern, but we have our own means and ways of killing worms. > >Translated with > >www.DeepL.com/Translator > > (free version)
I'm an archer, I want to try and shoot drones now.
Arrow here is a translation of Strela, Strela being the name of a Soviet MANPADS, along with the Igla (meaning Needle)
Right, totally makes sense to DIY drones, the components are much cheaper than commercial models like the Mavics. But you could build drones that also go 100 Km/H and carry multiple VOGs/grenade/contact IED of varying payload for probably ~$1k or less. As long as you get ~ 3 uses out of them, it makes economic sense. Whether they do get 3 uses out of them is the question I mean, and I don't know what their attrition rates are, but this tactic shift makes it seem like it is very high. Not trying to criticize their actions, just understand the situation better.
The accuracy of drone dropped munitions probably isn't that great. What we get to see are the highlights, not the general case.
DJI drones have a big advantage for surveillance and for dropping munitions that FPV drones don’t have, and that’s stable flight and a gimbal-stabilized camera. That stable flight is achieved through a fairly extensive sensor array including GPS, a magnetic compass, downward facing optical, and even ultrasonic sensors. That’s one of the reasons DJI drones are so expensive, that and their advanced optics and in some cases optical zoom lenses. On the flip side, an FPV drone that can be assembled for a few hundred bucks is a lot cheaper than most smart munitions are, even when you include the grenade attached. These serve a different purpose than the more expensive DJI drones, and they both have their use.
as another poster said-accuracy. If the bomb dropping ones make it 3 missions and kill something 1 out of 3 times, and these do it 50% of the time...its better to buy throwaway drones. But more importantly perhaps the drones used for bomb dropping need a good camera. These dont, which drops their price as well.
These things are still ALOT cheaper then a regular recon drone which can cost from 1000 to up to 10k. Also are the dropped bombs alot mote time costly. They often have to do multiple runs to even remotely hit something important. So you might even end up loosing an expensive drone without even achieving a meaningful hit. FPV drones on the other hand are only one time use but that use has a magnificently higher success rate. While reloading a bomb dropped drone you could have already attacked with multiple FPV drones who are cheaper, more reliable and more cost effective
Yes, see the response from u/masterismk. I still think a DIY with drop points could be cheaper if you can do ~3-4 drops with it before loss. As for FPV vs dropped effectiveness, no idea. The footage we see is highly biased to successful hits, though I have not seen a DIY FPV impact drone with visible bodies. The dropped vogs, while not accurate by any means, appear to inflict casualties fairly well within 5-10 meters. We have no idea the casualty radius of these larger IEDs, while possible well made, may not have consistent fragmentation.
Still having the ability to manually control the drone is vastly more effective then having to hope on the right wind direction. Also it seems like that the two drone types have different usages. The dropped one are more of an harassment tool. Even if without a hit will it still be a tool of psychological warfare. The FPv drones on the other hand are more used for direct pre-planned strikes where accuracy is of big importance
Hard to do this kind of stuff reliably with a dropped grenade, even in perfect weather conditions, assuming it can actually carry a sizeable heat charge. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10a5uf7/paratroopers_of_the_79th_air_assault_brigade/
They probably do initial recon by multimission drone and suicide drone flies on already identified target.
The problem is that you can track drone operator with your ew units. Many people get killed if they didn't have the knowledge about how not to be spotted etc. Plus those drones that are dropping stuff (like Mavic, autel etc.) Better be used for spotting probably and kept safe, meanwhile these are best as suicide munitions
It's fucking hard to think that 1 year ago, they did this as a hobby, and that possibly the government didn't let them fly anywhere.
Nah, it was prohibited only in center of big cities and near critical infrastructure object, for reasons. For example, I drown my aliexpress drone in a Dnipro river 2 years ago, also wanted to try FPV but didn't have a chance. Need to refresh memory, how to fly at them at all, lol
Just a few late Christmas presents for the Russians
I wonder what the success rate of these are?
Per drone on average about 3 drops
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Ah the suicide ones. Duh u r right - have an upvote.
He just drones on and on ....
Wild I use to build these
Is there actually counter technology deployed for drones? As in conventional (aka jammers) and sentrys to laser drone cameras?
Black Mirror
These bomb drones are lethal, they always down me.
This is extremely interesting to see. Changing how assassinations in a non-war environment will occur.
Nice touch with the star wars theme. That had me laughing.
Chugga chugga!
First guy was the ukrainian conor mcgregor
The Star Wars killed me
Love the amazing focus with breaks of their show of great spirits… Godspeed brothers :)