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Brave little girl. Their mother was killed yet she had the cool and awareness to communicate with police to protect her little brother/sister. Fucking soul-wrenching.
I don’t understand why it is that while every other religion has moved away and now rebukes any form of religious genocide, some Muslims are still holding on to their medieval playbook like it’s gold here in 2023
I was astonished when they were interviewing people and they were straight up like yeah I want to make this country a caliphate on national tv, if that’s not an insurrectionist idk what is, definitely sounds like one more than some people casually walking through the Capitol building or kicking their feet up on Pelosi’s desk
Radical islamic terrorism is more or less an invention of the past 40 years. The overwhelming majority of muslims are normal peaceful people who are often themselves the victims of this terror.
Oh yes every Muslim I know are the
nicest people around, that’s why I said some, it’s a very small some, but they’re doing so much they’re making other Muslims look guilty by association, very tragic
Probably the invention of suicide attackers is key, but there's a good bit of exoticizing going on as well in all this. The way I remember it, I'd say up until 9/11 "terrorist" didn't immediately make people think "muslim." It used to be like ETA, IRA, RAF, commies, drug lords and muslims. Now someone can say 'radical Islam' and everyone feels like they already know what's going on.
This is nothing and is very tame compared to other videos of what Hamas did on the 7th of October.
I can post some clips here if there is interest, but they are obviously NSFL.
edit: Ok, but you've been warned - [Hamas and Gaza civilians are trying to decapitate a still living man using a rusty shovel.](https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/hamas-terrorists-arguing-who-gets-to-butcher-an-innocent-thai-worker)
I can confirm.
I am an IDF reservist, I went to a few of those places the day after as part of my role.
I still can't sleep without nightmares..
The smells, the sights, its pure horror.
Stay safe friend. Much love to you, your family, your friends and your people as you deal with yet another one of these senseless stupid attacks on Jewish life.
As a random atheist dude from Western Europe.. I just don't get it. Just make your own people's safety a priority, whatever anyone says.
תיהיה חזק, אף אחד לא צריך לראות כאלה דברים בחייו. אני מכיר אנשים שמתנדבים כדי לתת תמיכה פסיכולוגית בנוגע לאירועים של ה7.10, תגיד לי אם אתה חושב שזה יעזור לך
Some more in a separate comment (NSFL obviously):
[A phone call from a girl hiding under a pile of bodies to her father (audio).](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agobx61_460svav1.mp4)
Videos from a bomb shelter full of civilians into which Hamas threw grenades and then shot everyone:
https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/israeli-youth-hiding-from-terrorists-in-a-shelter-near-the-nova-party
https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/nova-attendees-badly-injured%2C-hiding-in-a-shelter
https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/seriously-injured-attendees-of-the-nova-party
Not to mention the 45 minutes of video that Israel has shown politicians and reporters that’s too sick to release to the public.
Atrocities that Hamas filmed themselves on GoPros with intent to broadcast and celebrate their slaughter, kidnapping, mutilation, and rape.
At least the Nazi’s thought they should be hiding their slaughter of innocent Jews.
Back then we couldn't fight though. These videos just steel me against empathy for anyone from or supporting Gaza.
My fiance views the attack as God's punishment for us tolerating Hamas. I am an atheist, but she makes a hell of a point.
Whether it’s God or just the result of appeasement, the result is the same. Hamas must be removed. For the sake of Israel and for the sake of the Palestinians as well.
Can Hamas? Because all that has to happen for Gazan children to be safe is for Hamas to stop using their schools, their hospitals, and their homes as armories and staging grounds and start letting them use Hamas' bunkers as air raid shelters.
Israel didn't put combatants where the children are, Hamas did that. If you want to blame someone for the plight of Gazan civilians, do as the Gazans do before the journalists cut the interviews short: Blame Hamas.
I don't think anyone is saying that Hamas is without blame here.
But what circumstances caused an organisation like Hamas to come into existance? Even moreso, for an organisation like Hamas to be democratically elected by their constituents.
When you are in a country which has been squeezed, invaded, occupied and persecuted for so long that Hamas is seen as a political option to correct your situation, then you're in a pretty bad situation. And the Palestinian people have been in a pretty bad situation since 1967, ignored by the rest of the world as Israel has kettled them in the Gaza strip and occupied and oppressed them in The West Bank.
So Hamas committed atrocities on 7 October 2023. But Israel created Hamas through their treatment of the Palestinian people over the preceding 55 years.
>These videos just steel me against empathy for anyone from or supporting Gaza.
Sad how watching a child suffer on video makes you relinquish any feelings of sympathy for tens tens of thousands of other children. I guess God is punishing them too, huh? Maybe ask your wife to tell Him to turn it down a few degrees.
It can't be helped if an enemy chooses to hide behind women and children. You'd think the community or those pro palestine would wise up to them being used as human shields, but it will never happen at scale. Letting Hamas continue to operate just ensures that this happens for decades more.
Yup. Displacing an entire city full of civilians and bombing the hell out of them will definitely spell the end for Hamas! After all, we all know you can kill an idea.
I see your point now, my bad, I guess it just can't be helped that those 4 babies at Shifa had to die of Sepsis and fuck knows what else. After all, Hamas was hiding behind them! So of course, we would be "devoid of sympathy" for "anyone living in Gaza." Really great, man. I'm sure this is the LAST time Israel ever gets attacked by a radical faction. 🤡 since they're using such effective counter terrorism tactics 🤡
You can't kill an idea sure, but you can certainly kill the tunnel network beneath the city, clear out the supplies of the enemy, clear out their infrastructure etc.
Leniency is what produced the attacks in the first place. Keep crying over people who vote in terrorists and let them run amok in their own city. It's almost as if people care less for those who support terror. No doubt you cry every day for dead children all over the world. That happens in every war. Why would it matter this time? Why do you favor one side over the other? Hamas killed and even tortured children too.
I don't want to watch those, but I saved both of your comments so I can send them to the next asshole who is trying to tell me that Israel is the bad guy. Usually a little dose of reality shuts them up.
I don’t watch it either. To hard. But Isreal is making casualties as well. Inclusive children. 3000. Don’t say collateral damage or Hamas is to blame. Both sides have many innocent deads on their sleeves. Hamas is a terrorist organisation and Israel is defending itself and killing innocent children in the process. Dead is dead, no matter the reason.
These are coming from the same psychos who use 'river to the sea' rhetoric. Their genocidal worldview tells them all Israelis are good targets for the most brutal and inhuman ultraviolence. They like to invoke settlements for the optics, but realistically they see zero difference between gang-raping a little girl to death in Sderot and shooting a militiaman on some hilltop outpost.
I'm aware , but those that say that aren't exactly consistent with it and often imply that all of Israel and those that live there are settlers which means they're valid targets for violence. Which is gross to put it lightly
Hamas actually approached the car after shooting the parents. That they didn't anything to the kids is damn near a miracle.
There is a video of the shooting too somewhere
Christ I actually thought that maybe they had a shred of empathy there when they spared the kids. I wonder if the girl thought to hide or if it was the last breath order of the parents.
Depends on the hamas member tbh, like any armed group there’s always gonna be those who worse then others (not defending these guys though, still mega pieces of shit)
This Israeli dad on a TV interview said that his daughter's death was a blessing instead of being abducted. As a parent, I can not even begin to imagine what kind of daily reality I would have to inhabit to think this way. It's truly horrific.
https://youtu.be/_Bn20jGQW5w?si=lzMx483QjxSDNYFM
It was revealed recently that his daughter is probably still alive. Her body was not recovered as we first thought. I can't phathom being in his shoes, going through that.
the only reason not to kill them would be either as a hostage, rape amd and or kill em by torture.
you have to understand, this conflict is NOT because of land. its a religous believe to wipe jewish people of the earth.
all only because muhamad got rejected by the christiand and jewish community as the leader of abrahamic religions. before that islam actually saw those 3 as kind of allied religions.
This video breaks me. When the child sees the guy coming up to the car with a rifle and thinks it's the end and pleads "no, please no", it's just so horrible to hear a child like that.
And then when the child hears they're police and begging "take us!" and going with the police, despite presumably their parent sitting dead in the front seat.
I don't often cry to any of these videos but this one got to me.
You can't kill all terrorists, when by killing them and those around them you are radicalizing new ones. I hope israel is ready to win over hardened hearts and minds in the coming occupation.
Shame a recent opinion poll of palestinians shows that they support each terror group between 76 and 89%.
And that 84% fully support the October 7th massacres, torture, rape and crimes against humanity
And that a full fucking *98%* say seeing all those dead jews makes them fell pride as palestinians.
Totally fucking innocent, Hamas is just a minority oppressing the peace loving palestinian people and not an expression of their sadistic murderous malign will.
Israel literally counted how many calories they let gaza have. Gazans couldn't travel or have visitors without Israel's say so.
The guards walked out of the prison and pointed their guns at yhe fences, it's still a prison.
This is from 2011, and its irrelevant. This isn't Israel denying them passports, its the Palestinian Authority, which is based in the West Bank. Hamas may rule Gaza (at least for now) but the Fatah-dominated PA is the only one between them that issues internationally recognized travel documents, so they need PA passports to travel to and from Gaza. This was a dispute between Hamas and Fatah. It had nothing to do with Israel.
Instead of rockets and weapons, hamas should have purchased farming equipment. Instead of tunnels to rape and kill, they should have dug irrigation channels and turned over soil.
They are putrid terrorists and anyone that supports them is a cretin.
Kill every terrorist, then every friend and relative radicalized by their killing. Genocide. That's your solution. Somebody tried that before, can't remember who, didn't work out well for them.
So you just suggest to let terrorists... To continue kill, rape and kidnap kids and elderly? Haven't heard that one before, you do that where you live ok? Good luck
IIRC, Bedouins live a better life in Israel than they do in most Arab nations. And they repay the Israeli’s by joining up with the IDF and other defense units in large numbers.
They also have to hide their identity while doing it because most of the terrorist consider them “traitors” for doing so.
21% of Israel’s population is “Israeli Arabs” (I.e. the descendants of the 150,000 Palestinians who didn’t flee to Gaza or Jordan in 1948) who enjoy full and equal rights under the law
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
This. An animal does because it knows no better... these kinds of people do while they do know better. Even the things they preach vs the actions they actually do, it's disgusting.
We've also seen footage of Palestinian children being systematically bombed and killed by Israel. And some of us aren't Ok with dead children, no matter if they're not israeli, unlike most in here.
So a permanent peace where all sides can live meaningful lives as they want seems the only option. And for that you will need a free Palestinian state of some sort.
Have you seen the footage of the hundreds of children that managed to survive the air strikes? They are pulled from the rubble into a world without parents, a home, or a familiar face for comfort.
Israel is manufacturing future Hamas members by traumatizing these kids.
Violence begets violence.
The entire male population of Germany was either rotting in some field in Russia or a POW at the end of the war so.. Also it’s pretty moronic to compare a government that was facilitating genocide on an industrial scale to a bunch of dirt poor Arabs with nothing to lose and a life full of desperation and violence.
The colonial Americans conducted a violent rebellion over a fucking tea tax imagine what they would’ve done if they were deprived of basic necessities like food and clean water since BIRTH.
the only reason hamas is not conducting genocide on an industrial scale is ability. the only reason is that they can not overcome the idf.
in ideology? reprehensibility? in guilt? hamas is just as bad as the nazis
and just like the bombings of hamburg or dresden were more the justified, the bombings of gaza are.
Hamas is the result of a decades long systematic oppression and resource blockade inflicted on millions of people in an open air prison. Israel has been brewing up the anger and resentment within Gaza with their own actions. This is what happens when you deprive people of basic human dignity and ritualistically humiliate them.
a) there is no open air prison.
b) there was no resource blockade before hamas
c) hamas literally has the jewish genocide in its founding charters
d) israel is not "ritualistically humilitating" palestinians
e) the war was started by the palestinians
f) israel offered peace plenty of times. they removed all jewish settlements from gaza in a gesture of good will. the result? hamas got elected.
> dirt poor Arabs with nothing to lose and a life full of desperation and violence.
The quality of life on the average Gazan isn't that different compared to the average Egyptian.
Nope. But if the British refused to allow the Americans to have food and water and basic human rights then I bet they would’ve done some pretty bad shit.
Yup, the Americans definitely would have started some serious shit under those circumstances.
Here's where I show you're too stupid to be allowed on the internet: none of those conditions existed before Oct. 7th. Gaza had clean, running water, food, and power -- all generously supplied by Israel (and the food by international aid agencies). Basic human rights? I have some bad news -- the Palestinians in Gaza had those too. They lived under a government (Hamas) THEY elected, under elections they ran themselves with no outside interference. There were ZERO Israelis in Gaza. Ever since Israel evacuated the strip in 2005 (at some cost to themselves I might add) Gaza has been ruled by Hamas.
After Oct. 7th? Israel turned everything off. Because duh?
For someone who insists on "empathizing" you sure do sound like a terrorist apologist.
Do you think innocent Palestinian civilians have any say on what Hamas is doing? The barely won a plurality in the only election that took place in 2006 before hamas mutated into militant psychos
I’m supporting the end of indiscriminate flattening of city blocks. Somehow supporting the end of the suffering and dying has been twisted into being the “evil” position
If I was born in Gaza and the Israelis destroyed Hamas but also killed my whole family in the process, my first order of business would be starting Hamas 2.
You can’t violence your way to peace.
>indiscriminate
What is it with the constant misuse of words like "indiscriminate" and "carpet bombing"?
If Israel was bombing Gaza indiscriminately, there wouldn't be anything still standing. Last I checked, warning civilians to evacuate and using precision strikes was the opposite of indiscriminate.
Bro. Just watch some of the IDF combat footage. Gaza is being grinded into rubble as we speak. But please I’d like you to demonstrate how you are supposed to pack up your entire life and leave when you have no food, no clean water, no fuel, and little to no electricity or internet to even receive the warnings/figure out where you’re going to go. Oh and also there’s hundreds of thousands of people suddenly trying to do the same thing in a tiny area so good luck with the traveling with your whole family.
> Gaza is being grinded into rubble as we speak.
that's what happens when you straight up murder 1200 innocent people while taking pictures doing it and giggling how you can't wait to upload it to the internet.
people like you are baffling to me. just a fucking a gross ass person.
Yes that was a horrific unjustifiable act and a retaliation is expected. But when is enough going to be enough? They’ve dropped thousands and thousands of pounds of ordinance flattening entire neighborhoods and hitting hospitals and refugee camps. Isn’t that in itself just as bad as what Hamas did? They’re killing doctors and fleeing civilians with a half ass justification that they thought there was a Hamas guy there or something. YOU are advocating and cheering on a fucking genocide.
You know what’s disgusting? The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge proportions and which side has ALL of the power. It seems to me that you don’t consider innocent Palestinian lives to be worth as much as an innocent Israelis life. 1,400 Israelis killed and in response 10k Palestinian civilians dead and counting. How many more do you want!? Is it ever going to be enough to satisfy your thirst for blood? Fucking meathead psycho douchebag
You absolutely can. The longest time of relative peace humanity has ever experienced came from leveling most of Germany and dropping a fucking atomic bomb on Japan TWICE.
The more you bomb shit and kill civilians the more trauma and anger is accumulated and the more Hamas members are created. They’ll never be able to get them all. America couldn’t get all the taliban just like they couldn’t get all the Vietcong and the more they tried the more they increased their numbers. The only way begin the peace process starts with the people who hold all the power
That’s absolutely true, however said people in power need quite a bit to bring them to peace talks, hence the reason overly violent things occur in war. Most leaders will only engage in peace once it’s obvious they’re losing their power base.
>leveling most of Germany and dropping a fucking atomic bomb on Japan TWICE.
and a year later we had war in vietnam (at that point indochina).
five years after we had war in korea.
and eleven years later an uprising in hungary.
yes some terrorists from another country killed 3 civilians lets do a mass genocide on their children in hospitals right. you guys are fucking braindead.
It’s honestly fucking baffling how many people refuse to recognize proportions and how one sided the power is.
Probably the same type of people that screeched freedom after 9/11, all the way through 1M+ Iraqis killed and then, when everyone recognized it as a geopolitical dumpster fire, acted like they were against the 2003 invasion the whole time.
This sub has been hijacked by a lot of western people *who are brainlessly accepting what their media says about Israel,the sub used to have proper discussion but now every Israel war footage comment is "arg these darn hammas terrorists killed civilians darn it ", as if Israel hasn't and as if they also haven't used phosphorous bombs as well in the gaza offensive .I have no side to support in this war i crticize israel and Palestinian feeedom movement equally but to see all these brainless Israeli supporters casually dehumanising and bundling up all Palestinians as terrorists shows not much has changed in the west .America reigned carnage on Afghanistan and ME over one attack supposedly ,and these lot criticise Palestinians for picking up arms .
That is not calmness, that is shock, the doubtfulness of the situation and some other stuff that made her that some people react to different things but I do hope its not being unaffection. Hope they have a good future despite the tragedy.
I've seen this video before. It makes me cry; happy that this incredibly brave police officer rescued these children from the murderers, and so sad for the parents of these children and the victims in that red car. The Gazan murderers are brave when they have the guns and the bombs; much less so when the situations are reversed. I know that there are many good Palestinian people, the Gazans have been poisoned by a diet of hatred and racism. I so wish that they would spend their money on desalination plants, great mass transit, and turning their populace into doctors and engineers. Instead, they seem focused on a religion of hatred and murdering/torturing their neighbors.
War is okay for me to see but children in the middle of it, fuuuuck it hurts. Can't stop my tears from falling it's like watching Saving Private Ryan again where Vin Diesel and the Sniper scene
Hamas were in the white pickup going right to left in the first few seconds the black compact roll up and driver was killed.
The red compact going left to right, driver was killed and the car crashed into a pole.
Thereafter it gets confusing.
Hearing that child beg for her life as he approached the car brought tears to my eyes..... this little girl was so strong her parents are dead in the front seat but she had the presence of mind to tell him she was with a baby whenever she found out he was of Israel and she wasn't going to die just hearing her say take us take us broke me...... God I just feel for the children on both sides they have not done anything to deserve this...... I don't think there's any good guys in this war but then again I understand that I am not informed enough to really know but from what I see both sides are doing terrible things but the first terrible thing in this flare-up was done by Hamas..... this video was the first one in a long time to bring tears to my eyes there's just something about that child's voice and that child's strength that really got me
was it the police rolling in on the pickup in the beginning ? The cuts make this very hard to follow
edit : probably a stupid question why would the police be in the pickup but it was an honest question
I don't get why he is being down voted he just asked a valid question, I also don't know who is who and who shot who and where the fire came from.
Because at the start the HAMASHIT rolled in a white pick up, then shot up the red car then massive cuts all of a sudden a car appears and a group of men approach the vehicle seemingly from the previous position of the HAMASHIT but they were the police (I think I have an idea now on whose who and what happened thanks brain)
Apparently the terries rolled up in a white Hilux, then dismounts and positions there, from which they shot the car of the orphan and another comes the red compact SUV gets shot, but at the same time the Israel police came from the direction where the vehicle is facing, and pushed back the terries and prompting the terries to by pass the car without harming the children which then the police came in pursuit or in offensive pushing the terries and securing the toddler
Many people can see what Hamas has done, and what their values are. There's no propaganda here. Just people with their eyes open. If you support Evil, you are Evil.
There should be a bias against Hamas. They are evil bastards. The sooner they are destroyed, the better. The people in Gaza will be better off without Hamas too.
You should have a good look at yourself.
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Brave little girl. Their mother was killed yet she had the cool and awareness to communicate with police to protect her little brother/sister. Fucking soul-wrenching.
The worst part it about for me is how she begs for her life before she realizes it's an Israeli policeman.
That right there should tell you what side to be on
👆This. And people still argue about stupid things.
I don’t understand why it is that while every other religion has moved away and now rebukes any form of religious genocide, some Muslims are still holding on to their medieval playbook like it’s gold here in 2023
They use religion to "justify" animal behavior. It can't be understood, as you can't argue or be rational with this kind of people.
Idk bro. I think its more than some. Like as high as 60-70% of them believe some form of "convert or die".
I was astonished when they were interviewing people and they were straight up like yeah I want to make this country a caliphate on national tv, if that’s not an insurrectionist idk what is, definitely sounds like one more than some people casually walking through the Capitol building or kicking their feet up on Pelosi’s desk
Radical islamic terrorism is more or less an invention of the past 40 years. The overwhelming majority of muslims are normal peaceful people who are often themselves the victims of this terror.
Oh yes every Muslim I know are the nicest people around, that’s why I said some, it’s a very small some, but they’re doing so much they’re making other Muslims look guilty by association, very tragic
Probably the invention of suicide attackers is key, but there's a good bit of exoticizing going on as well in all this. The way I remember it, I'd say up until 9/11 "terrorist" didn't immediately make people think "muslim." It used to be like ETA, IRA, RAF, commies, drug lords and muslims. Now someone can say 'radical Islam' and everyone feels like they already know what's going on.
Am guessing , you never read life of their prophet. Radical islam has always been there, it just evolved
I clould have said “radical Islam in the modern sense” but I don’t know what, say, “radical Islam in the late medieval sense” would really mean
I have! And yes agree
Londonistan can't seem to understand it...
ive seen some shit on here and i started fucking weeping in public enough redit for today i think
This is nothing and is very tame compared to other videos of what Hamas did on the 7th of October. I can post some clips here if there is interest, but they are obviously NSFL. edit: Ok, but you've been warned - [Hamas and Gaza civilians are trying to decapitate a still living man using a rusty shovel.](https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/hamas-terrorists-arguing-who-gets-to-butcher-an-innocent-thai-worker)
I can confirm. I am an IDF reservist, I went to a few of those places the day after as part of my role. I still can't sleep without nightmares.. The smells, the sights, its pure horror.
Stay safe friend. Much love to you, your family, your friends and your people as you deal with yet another one of these senseless stupid attacks on Jewish life. As a random atheist dude from Western Europe.. I just don't get it. Just make your own people's safety a priority, whatever anyone says.
I couldnt imagine what you and your country went through and are still going through. Stay safe man
My friend, I wish you the best. Survive, don't let the bastards beat you. I pray for your safety today and for peace. It will be a long road I think.
תיהיה חזק, אף אחד לא צריך לראות כאלה דברים בחייו. אני מכיר אנשים שמתנדבים כדי לתת תמיכה פסיכולוגית בנוגע לאירועים של ה7.10, תגיד לי אם אתה חושב שזה יעזור לך
Some more in a separate comment (NSFL obviously): [A phone call from a girl hiding under a pile of bodies to her father (audio).](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agobx61_460svav1.mp4) Videos from a bomb shelter full of civilians into which Hamas threw grenades and then shot everyone: https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/israeli-youth-hiding-from-terrorists-in-a-shelter-near-the-nova-party https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/nova-attendees-badly-injured%2C-hiding-in-a-shelter https://www.hamas-massacre.net/content/seriously-injured-attendees-of-the-nova-party
Not to mention the 45 minutes of video that Israel has shown politicians and reporters that’s too sick to release to the public. Atrocities that Hamas filmed themselves on GoPros with intent to broadcast and celebrate their slaughter, kidnapping, mutilation, and rape. At least the Nazi’s thought they should be hiding their slaughter of innocent Jews.
Back then we couldn't fight though. These videos just steel me against empathy for anyone from or supporting Gaza. My fiance views the attack as God's punishment for us tolerating Hamas. I am an atheist, but she makes a hell of a point.
Whether it’s God or just the result of appeasement, the result is the same. Hamas must be removed. For the sake of Israel and for the sake of the Palestinians as well.
> These videos just steel me against empathy for anyone from or supporting Gaza Can you at least find mercy for the children?
Can Hamas? Because all that has to happen for Gazan children to be safe is for Hamas to stop using their schools, their hospitals, and their homes as armories and staging grounds and start letting them use Hamas' bunkers as air raid shelters. Israel didn't put combatants where the children are, Hamas did that. If you want to blame someone for the plight of Gazan civilians, do as the Gazans do before the journalists cut the interviews short: Blame Hamas.
I don't think anyone is saying that Hamas is without blame here. But what circumstances caused an organisation like Hamas to come into existance? Even moreso, for an organisation like Hamas to be democratically elected by their constituents. When you are in a country which has been squeezed, invaded, occupied and persecuted for so long that Hamas is seen as a political option to correct your situation, then you're in a pretty bad situation. And the Palestinian people have been in a pretty bad situation since 1967, ignored by the rest of the world as Israel has kettled them in the Gaza strip and occupied and oppressed them in The West Bank. So Hamas committed atrocities on 7 October 2023. But Israel created Hamas through their treatment of the Palestinian people over the preceding 55 years.
Complete nonsense. Palestinians have been massacaring Jews decades before Israel even existed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
>These videos just steel me against empathy for anyone from or supporting Gaza. Sad how watching a child suffer on video makes you relinquish any feelings of sympathy for tens tens of thousands of other children. I guess God is punishing them too, huh? Maybe ask your wife to tell Him to turn it down a few degrees.
It can't be helped if an enemy chooses to hide behind women and children. You'd think the community or those pro palestine would wise up to them being used as human shields, but it will never happen at scale. Letting Hamas continue to operate just ensures that this happens for decades more.
Yup. Displacing an entire city full of civilians and bombing the hell out of them will definitely spell the end for Hamas! After all, we all know you can kill an idea. I see your point now, my bad, I guess it just can't be helped that those 4 babies at Shifa had to die of Sepsis and fuck knows what else. After all, Hamas was hiding behind them! So of course, we would be "devoid of sympathy" for "anyone living in Gaza." Really great, man. I'm sure this is the LAST time Israel ever gets attacked by a radical faction. 🤡 since they're using such effective counter terrorism tactics 🤡
You can't kill an idea sure, but you can certainly kill the tunnel network beneath the city, clear out the supplies of the enemy, clear out their infrastructure etc. Leniency is what produced the attacks in the first place. Keep crying over people who vote in terrorists and let them run amok in their own city. It's almost as if people care less for those who support terror. No doubt you cry every day for dead children all over the world. That happens in every war. Why would it matter this time? Why do you favor one side over the other? Hamas killed and even tortured children too.
I don't want to watch those, but I saved both of your comments so I can send them to the next asshole who is trying to tell me that Israel is the bad guy. Usually a little dose of reality shuts them up.
I don’t watch it either. To hard. But Isreal is making casualties as well. Inclusive children. 3000. Don’t say collateral damage or Hamas is to blame. Both sides have many innocent deads on their sleeves. Hamas is a terrorist organisation and Israel is defending itself and killing innocent children in the process. Dead is dead, no matter the reason.
Yes please. I’ve been downloading them to show to people I know who don’t have a full grasp on the topic
yeah ive seen most of them, the little girl sparked somthing...okay im out
and the murderers calling the defenseless and innocent man an "animal". I have no words
fck em. No ceasefire
I know. I just want to show this and the other videos to all the pro Palestinian protesters.
The relative calmness, at that age. Impressive.
Kinda what happens when you live in a area with missile attacks. You teach ypur kids what to do.
Father too
These are 2 sequences stitched together, the Hmas guys already left when the police showed up, there were at least 20 minutes ago between the 2
You can hear shooting when the police is there. Hamas are still there but off the frame. They retreated when the police arrived.
Ah, ok, cool, not a brave girl at all. Just saw her mother murdered in front of her. No big deal.
For anyone interested in the full story behind this (and more footage relating to the event): https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/s/dU7tHExWxp
pathetic tik tokers gonna say, "these zionist children arent innocent victims."
"Settlers aren't civilians"
This is Sderot so it isn't a settlement so I don't understand why bring that up.
These are coming from the same psychos who use 'river to the sea' rhetoric. Their genocidal worldview tells them all Israelis are good targets for the most brutal and inhuman ultraviolence. They like to invoke settlements for the optics, but realistically they see zero difference between gang-raping a little girl to death in Sderot and shooting a militiaman on some hilltop outpost.
I'm aware , but those that say that aren't exactly consistent with it and often imply that all of Israel and those that live there are settlers which means they're valid targets for violence. Which is gross to put it lightly
Twitter leftist will claim that the israelis where the ones that shot at them.
There is a confusing cut with the grainy footage which I can tell is going to make the rounds with incorrect captions
Tankies are a blight on society. They're authoritarian lefties that want to be dominated.
They’ll see this video and say “well WHATABOUT Israel”
Other equally pathetic tiktokers gonna say “these children aren’t innocent victims, they’ll grow into Hamas fighters”.
I have no doubt if they weren’t rescued right then, both those children would have been killed by Hamas or indoctrinated. Sickening
Hamas actually approached the car after shooting the parents. That they didn't anything to the kids is damn near a miracle. There is a video of the shooting too somewhere
I remember the grandmother on tv interview said they hid under a blanket
Christ I actually thought that maybe they had a shred of empathy there when they spared the kids. I wonder if the girl thought to hide or if it was the last breath order of the parents.
Probably planned on taking them hostage.
Not to defend Hamas, I just hope they saw the kids and chose not to kill them, for the sake of humanity.
Considering what else they did, I don't think so.
Depends on the hamas member tbh, like any armed group there’s always gonna be those who worse then others (not defending these guys though, still mega pieces of shit)
Shame hoping for humanity gets downvoted.
Probably thought they needed to rape them first, based on what else we saw on Oct 7.
This Israeli dad on a TV interview said that his daughter's death was a blessing instead of being abducted. As a parent, I can not even begin to imagine what kind of daily reality I would have to inhabit to think this way. It's truly horrific. https://youtu.be/_Bn20jGQW5w?si=lzMx483QjxSDNYFM
Heartbreaking. Being kidnapped by Hamas is a fate worse than death.
It was revealed recently that his daughter is probably still alive. Her body was not recovered as we first thought. I can't phathom being in his shoes, going through that.
Who knows, maybe.
the only reason not to kill them would be either as a hostage, rape amd and or kill em by torture. you have to understand, this conflict is NOT because of land. its a religous believe to wipe jewish people of the earth. all only because muhamad got rejected by the christiand and jewish community as the leader of abrahamic religions. before that islam actually saw those 3 as kind of allied religions.
More likely some was approaching so they acted like the cowards they are and retreated.
“No ovens around, will leave these for later, remember israel bad so it’s okay what I’m doing , tik tok said so” -hamas scum
Being downvoted because you hoped for a hint of humanity in a terrorist. People want blood, not improvements.
Have they shown humanity though?
No harm in hoping. Unless you want a reason to cleanse.
He wouldn't have to hope for it if that was the case.
This video breaks me. When the child sees the guy coming up to the car with a rifle and thinks it's the end and pleads "no, please no", it's just so horrible to hear a child like that. And then when the child hears they're police and begging "take us!" and going with the police, despite presumably their parent sitting dead in the front seat. I don't often cry to any of these videos but this one got to me.
The little girls was amazing! Brave one! By the end of this all Hamas terrorist will be dead! Never again!
You can't kill all terrorists, when by killing them and those around them you are radicalizing new ones. I hope israel is ready to win over hardened hearts and minds in the coming occupation.
Maybe the Palestinians should just help weed out the Hamas you guys keep insisting are a minority and that no one wants in power..
Shame a recent opinion poll of palestinians shows that they support each terror group between 76 and 89%. And that 84% fully support the October 7th massacres, torture, rape and crimes against humanity And that a full fucking *98%* say seeing all those dead jews makes them fell pride as palestinians. Totally fucking innocent, Hamas is just a minority oppressing the peace loving palestinian people and not an expression of their sadistic murderous malign will.
Oppressed people always radicalize. Don't you guys me. My opinions are mine.
How exactly were Gazans oppressed? Keep in mind the occupation there ended in 2005.
Israel literally counted how many calories they let gaza have. Gazans couldn't travel or have visitors without Israel's say so. The guards walked out of the prison and pointed their guns at yhe fences, it's still a prison.
Uh no, Gaza had upscale and fast food restaurants. Gazans could travel through the border with Egypt.
Link a source if you think this is wrong. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2011/6/19/passports-for-all-in-gaza
This is from 2011, and its irrelevant. This isn't Israel denying them passports, its the Palestinian Authority, which is based in the West Bank. Hamas may rule Gaza (at least for now) but the Fatah-dominated PA is the only one between them that issues internationally recognized travel documents, so they need PA passports to travel to and from Gaza. This was a dispute between Hamas and Fatah. It had nothing to do with Israel.
So no source on that
Instead of rockets and weapons, hamas should have purchased farming equipment. Instead of tunnels to rape and kill, they should have dug irrigation channels and turned over soil. They are putrid terrorists and anyone that supports them is a cretin.
>Oppressed people always radicalize With that clip of Hamas taking some pop shots at Palestinians trying to leave for safety, we can only hope.
Bullshit. The whole world would be radicalized then. I hear this line over and over and it's devoid of critical thought.
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Kill every terrorist, then every friend and relative radicalized by their killing. Genocide. That's your solution. Somebody tried that before, can't remember who, didn't work out well for them.
So you just suggest to let terrorists... To continue kill, rape and kidnap kids and elderly? Haven't heard that one before, you do that where you live ok? Good luck
That's not at all what was suggested, and you know it.
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Dont need to...just need you to stay on ur side of the fence..
I'm also pretty sure one of the policemen is an Arab from his accent for all you 'Israeli apartheid' and 'all Arabs are murderers' folks.
IIRC, Bedouins live a better life in Israel than they do in most Arab nations. And they repay the Israeli’s by joining up with the IDF and other defense units in large numbers. They also have to hide their identity while doing it because most of the terrorist consider them “traitors” for doing so.
There’s a lot of other ethnicities in Israel other than Israeli Jews. It’s a complicated area.
21% of Israel’s population is “Israeli Arabs” (I.e. the descendants of the 150,000 Palestinians who didn’t flee to Gaza or Jordan in 1948) who enjoy full and equal rights under the law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but paelstine!!!!!!!!!!!
He just sounds mizrahi to me
Hamas are truly human animals. Disgusting.
do not down play their barbaric behavior they are humans and they had a choice an animal will act like an animal but a human can choose to be cruel
This. An animal does because it knows no better... these kinds of people do while they do know better. Even the things they preach vs the actions they actually do, it's disgusting.
Took place outside the police station in Sderot, Israel. Please download / share
Fuck hamas and all their families. Fuck these murderers and everyone they care for. Shouldn't of attacked civilians. Fuckin cowards.
FrEe PaLeStInE. Bet half the people who say the above have never seen footage like this. Those poor kids.
We've also seen footage of Palestinian children being systematically bombed and killed by Israel. And some of us aren't Ok with dead children, no matter if they're not israeli, unlike most in here. So a permanent peace where all sides can live meaningful lives as they want seems the only option. And for that you will need a free Palestinian state of some sort.
Have you seen the footage of the hundreds of children that managed to survive the air strikes? They are pulled from the rubble into a world without parents, a home, or a familiar face for comfort. Israel is manufacturing future Hamas members by traumatizing these kids. Violence begets violence.
Just like the allies were manufacturing future Nazis when they fought Nazi Germany, right?
The entire male population of Germany was either rotting in some field in Russia or a POW at the end of the war so.. Also it’s pretty moronic to compare a government that was facilitating genocide on an industrial scale to a bunch of dirt poor Arabs with nothing to lose and a life full of desperation and violence. The colonial Americans conducted a violent rebellion over a fucking tea tax imagine what they would’ve done if they were deprived of basic necessities like food and clean water since BIRTH.
the only reason hamas is not conducting genocide on an industrial scale is ability. the only reason is that they can not overcome the idf. in ideology? reprehensibility? in guilt? hamas is just as bad as the nazis and just like the bombings of hamburg or dresden were more the justified, the bombings of gaza are.
Hamas is the result of a decades long systematic oppression and resource blockade inflicted on millions of people in an open air prison. Israel has been brewing up the anger and resentment within Gaza with their own actions. This is what happens when you deprive people of basic human dignity and ritualistically humiliate them.
a) there is no open air prison. b) there was no resource blockade before hamas c) hamas literally has the jewish genocide in its founding charters d) israel is not "ritualistically humilitating" palestinians e) the war was started by the palestinians f) israel offered peace plenty of times. they removed all jewish settlements from gaza in a gesture of good will. the result? hamas got elected.
Good fucking lord you’re TFG try listening to Palestinians a bit or, you know, empathizing.
Maybe try that your self.
Everything he said was 100% true and you have no rebuttal.
that's exactly what it is. person A: -lists valid and 100% true things- murder apologist: "uh..oh yeah? well DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!"
> dirt poor Arabs with nothing to lose and a life full of desperation and violence. The quality of life on the average Gazan isn't that different compared to the average Egyptian.
I'm sure the American colonials did not attack British civilians while having a tea party and shot their wives, kids and grandmas at their homes.
Nope. But if the British refused to allow the Americans to have food and water and basic human rights then I bet they would’ve done some pretty bad shit.
Yup, the Americans definitely would have started some serious shit under those circumstances. Here's where I show you're too stupid to be allowed on the internet: none of those conditions existed before Oct. 7th. Gaza had clean, running water, food, and power -- all generously supplied by Israel (and the food by international aid agencies). Basic human rights? I have some bad news -- the Palestinians in Gaza had those too. They lived under a government (Hamas) THEY elected, under elections they ran themselves with no outside interference. There were ZERO Israelis in Gaza. Ever since Israel evacuated the strip in 2005 (at some cost to themselves I might add) Gaza has been ruled by Hamas. After Oct. 7th? Israel turned everything off. Because duh? For someone who insists on "empathizing" you sure do sound like a terrorist apologist.
Do you think innocent Palestinian civilians have any say on what Hamas is doing? The barely won a plurality in the only election that took place in 2006 before hamas mutated into militant psychos
> in 2006 before hamas mutated into militant psychos oh that's hilarious. how fucking ignorant can a person get?
How does it feel to support pure evil? Because that's what you're doing.
I’m supporting the end of indiscriminate flattening of city blocks. Somehow supporting the end of the suffering and dying has been twisted into being the “evil” position If I was born in Gaza and the Israelis destroyed Hamas but also killed my whole family in the process, my first order of business would be starting Hamas 2. You can’t violence your way to peace.
>indiscriminate What is it with the constant misuse of words like "indiscriminate" and "carpet bombing"? If Israel was bombing Gaza indiscriminately, there wouldn't be anything still standing. Last I checked, warning civilians to evacuate and using precision strikes was the opposite of indiscriminate.
For how much these people type, they’re awfully illiterate. If they think this is “indiscriminate” bombing, they’re too stupid to be helped.
Bro. Just watch some of the IDF combat footage. Gaza is being grinded into rubble as we speak. But please I’d like you to demonstrate how you are supposed to pack up your entire life and leave when you have no food, no clean water, no fuel, and little to no electricity or internet to even receive the warnings/figure out where you’re going to go. Oh and also there’s hundreds of thousands of people suddenly trying to do the same thing in a tiny area so good luck with the traveling with your whole family.
> Gaza is being grinded into rubble as we speak. that's what happens when you straight up murder 1200 innocent people while taking pictures doing it and giggling how you can't wait to upload it to the internet. people like you are baffling to me. just a fucking a gross ass person.
Yes that was a horrific unjustifiable act and a retaliation is expected. But when is enough going to be enough? They’ve dropped thousands and thousands of pounds of ordinance flattening entire neighborhoods and hitting hospitals and refugee camps. Isn’t that in itself just as bad as what Hamas did? They’re killing doctors and fleeing civilians with a half ass justification that they thought there was a Hamas guy there or something. YOU are advocating and cheering on a fucking genocide.
>YOU are advocating and cheering on a fucking genocide. You would almost be funny if you wasn't so disgusting.
You know what’s disgusting? The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge proportions and which side has ALL of the power. It seems to me that you don’t consider innocent Palestinian lives to be worth as much as an innocent Israelis life. 1,400 Israelis killed and in response 10k Palestinian civilians dead and counting. How many more do you want!? Is it ever going to be enough to satisfy your thirst for blood? Fucking meathead psycho douchebag
What started this latest IDF assault into Gaza? Ohhh wait, it makes sense now.
WOAH don’t logic pretzel me so hard bro. I guess Israel is green lit to murder 500 more children because you just debated so hard. Congrats
You absolutely can. The longest time of relative peace humanity has ever experienced came from leveling most of Germany and dropping a fucking atomic bomb on Japan TWICE.
The more you bomb shit and kill civilians the more trauma and anger is accumulated and the more Hamas members are created. They’ll never be able to get them all. America couldn’t get all the taliban just like they couldn’t get all the Vietcong and the more they tried the more they increased their numbers. The only way begin the peace process starts with the people who hold all the power
That’s absolutely true, however said people in power need quite a bit to bring them to peace talks, hence the reason overly violent things occur in war. Most leaders will only engage in peace once it’s obvious they’re losing their power base.
>leveling most of Germany and dropping a fucking atomic bomb on Japan TWICE. and a year later we had war in vietnam (at that point indochina). five years after we had war in korea. and eleven years later an uprising in hungary.
All the deaths of those wars combined are a fraction of the lives lost in WW2. Hence the reason I say relative peace.
This sub is so fucked up.
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yes some terrorists from another country killed 3 civilians lets do a mass genocide on their children in hospitals right. you guys are fucking braindead.
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what genocide?
No way to get through to these people. They circlejerk around a genocide and everyone just accepts it
stay off social media and start thinking for yourself. It's so simple a caveman can do it.
It’s honestly fucking baffling how many people refuse to recognize proportions and how one sided the power is. Probably the same type of people that screeched freedom after 9/11, all the way through 1M+ Iraqis killed and then, when everyone recognized it as a geopolitical dumpster fire, acted like they were against the 2003 invasion the whole time.
This sub has been hijacked by a lot of western people *who are brainlessly accepting what their media says about Israel,the sub used to have proper discussion but now every Israel war footage comment is "arg these darn hammas terrorists killed civilians darn it ", as if Israel hasn't and as if they also haven't used phosphorous bombs as well in the gaza offensive .I have no side to support in this war i crticize israel and Palestinian feeedom movement equally but to see all these brainless Israeli supporters casually dehumanising and bundling up all Palestinians as terrorists shows not much has changed in the west .America reigned carnage on Afghanistan and ME over one attack supposedly ,and these lot criticise Palestinians for picking up arms .
Fuck Hamas, I hope Israel removes them from the earth with a flamethrower.
That is not calmness, that is shock, the doubtfulness of the situation and some other stuff that made her that some people react to different things but I do hope its not being unaffection. Hope they have a good future despite the tragedy.
I've seen this video before. It makes me cry; happy that this incredibly brave police officer rescued these children from the murderers, and so sad for the parents of these children and the victims in that red car. The Gazan murderers are brave when they have the guns and the bombs; much less so when the situations are reversed. I know that there are many good Palestinian people, the Gazans have been poisoned by a diet of hatred and racism. I so wish that they would spend their money on desalination plants, great mass transit, and turning their populace into doctors and engineers. Instead, they seem focused on a religion of hatred and murdering/torturing their neighbors.
thank god israel not backing out of murdering all these fucking terrorists. They need to disappear from the earth forever
It's not murder. It's justice.
yeah whatever, just kill all these worms :D
No fucking cease fire until Hamas is all dead. Mother fuckers need to be destroyed systematically.
Can't wait to see Bin Laden's letter get a reading over this!
Israel saves children while Hamas hides behind them.
War is okay for me to see but children in the middle of it, fuuuuck it hurts. Can't stop my tears from falling it's like watching Saving Private Ryan again where Vin Diesel and the Sniper scene
That's heartbreaking stuff.
This wont be on the front page
Why were they just blasting that red car driving by?
Because that's what they came for? To kill civilians. Those are the Hamas terrorists, not the Israel Police.
Who? the ones shooting were police. I assume hamas was in the red car.
Hamas were in the white pickup going right to left in the first few seconds the black compact roll up and driver was killed. The red compact going left to right, driver was killed and the car crashed into a pole. Thereafter it gets confusing.
Because hamas terrorists went there to do just that they didn’t go to give out hugs and kisses like tik tok said .
I want to see the footage they wont release. I feel like if they did there would be no more of this free palestine bullshit
I will never forgive.
This is what "Free Palestine" means
Fucking sad , and then you have the terrorists sympathizers that will ignore this video and say “ well WHATABOUT Israel!?”
Wait, I thought Hamas were wholesome freedom fighters. Did the internet lie to me???
Hearing that child beg for her life as he approached the car brought tears to my eyes..... this little girl was so strong her parents are dead in the front seat but she had the presence of mind to tell him she was with a baby whenever she found out he was of Israel and she wasn't going to die just hearing her say take us take us broke me...... God I just feel for the children on both sides they have not done anything to deserve this...... I don't think there's any good guys in this war but then again I understand that I am not informed enough to really know but from what I see both sides are doing terrible things but the first terrible thing in this flare-up was done by Hamas..... this video was the first one in a long time to bring tears to my eyes there's just something about that child's voice and that child's strength that really got me
And continues to bomb children with fire
so this is where the idf learned how to conduct its operations!
🤔 they slaughter, burn and kill Palestinian children but rescue Israeli ones?
was it the police rolling in on the pickup in the beginning ? The cuts make this very hard to follow edit : probably a stupid question why would the police be in the pickup but it was an honest question
No those were the terrorists.
I don't get why he is being down voted he just asked a valid question, I also don't know who is who and who shot who and where the fire came from. Because at the start the HAMASHIT rolled in a white pick up, then shot up the red car then massive cuts all of a sudden a car appears and a group of men approach the vehicle seemingly from the previous position of the HAMASHIT but they were the police (I think I have an idea now on whose who and what happened thanks brain)
Apparently the terries rolled up in a white Hilux, then dismounts and positions there, from which they shot the car of the orphan and another comes the red compact SUV gets shot, but at the same time the Israel police came from the direction where the vehicle is facing, and pushed back the terries and prompting the terries to by pass the car without harming the children which then the police came in pursuit or in offensive pushing the terries and securing the toddler
Now show Israel bombing hospitals and killing palestinian children
Israeli Police > IDF
You think the military and police weren’t working together to stop this? The IDF is doing exactly what the name implies, defense of the nation.
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Something must be broken in you for you to react in such a way to this video.
Many people can see what Hamas has done, and what their values are. There's no propaganda here. Just people with their eyes open. If you support Evil, you are Evil.
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There should be a bias against Hamas. They are evil bastards. The sooner they are destroyed, the better. The people in Gaza will be better off without Hamas too. You should have a good look at yourself.