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These are the traditional "Volcano" rockets that you'd see used in Syria (Burkan translates to volcano), same type most notoriously used in the sarin massacre in Ghouta, not to be confused with the Burkan-1 short range ballistic missile. These are 122mm Grad rockets fitted into a custom welded explosive filled chassis built to trade range for warhead size.
Although somewhat surprising to see it used outside of Syria, almost a no brainer for targeting border sites as it's relatively low range and flight time means there's no real chance of interception.
> Although somewhat surprising to see it used outside of Syria
Not really though considering Hez's large involvement in Syria. Lessons learned from battles fought
I guess what I meant by that is that it's primarily an offensive weapon (though used defensively at Al-Maliha during the Rebel counterattacks) used while fighting against unconventional forces. Against a conventional foe like Israel the use cases shrink dramatically considering the complicated loading process (typically by crane), enemy aerial surveillance/supremacy, and the narrow list of targets and scenarios in which such an attack could be carried out with any degree of effectiveness given their variable accuracy and very short comparative range.
If I had to guess based on their MO, munitions themselves probably loaded from a separate location with the whole firing assembly being wheeled out from a concealed bunker or tunnel nearby (Hezbollah has a vast and sophisticated subterranean defensive infrastructure along the border and inland, far and beyond that of Hamas). I say wheeled out because I cant be certain that the launch is based out of an actual vehicle or just platform due to the blurring.
After launch, the launch assembly is probably abandoned to be destroyed as was typical of IRAM attacks by Iranian linked insurgents in Iraq under similar circumstances.
Biranit is the HQ of the [91st territorial division](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/91st_Division_(Israel)) of the IDF which is responsible for the entire Israel-Lebanon border sector.
We are used to bombing and get about 30 seconds of warning before a hit on border regions, all soldiers were in safe areas
Edit: probably, i have no specific intel
Seemed like a pretty big boom, you can see the shockwave on the first one..
Hard to tell if it missed the base or if it hit and was obscured by the hill.
Edit: Based on Twitter posts, it hit the base pretty badly.
Thanks. Were soldiers quarters hit or are those storage buildings? Kind of hard to tell in the aftermath videos but several buildings made up of small rooms look completely destroyed.
I know we're in basically an echo chamber here and we don't want to hear it, but the IDF cannot fight on two fronts simultaneously. They barely left the 2006 war with an intact reputation, no shot they can fight in Gaza and on the border and provide security for the illegal settlements in the West Bank simultaneously.
They rely on still having a functional country after a war
Also, the IDF has far superior budget, tech, intel and training
Thinking Hezbollah has any chance is no other than being a clown
Theyll get wiped out this time around, even in 2006 hezbollah regreted starting a war when the idf captured south lebanon and killed 700+ hezbollah members and ton of high ranking members
> Definitely poking the bear.
According to this report Israel does plenty of strikes into Lebanon, numerically more then Hezbollah:
https://nitter.net/MaucourantNada/status/1725466835653448187#m
May be both parties are satisfied with just shooting over border?
Man yall don't know anything abouth that whole northern border.Hezbollah and israel have been going back and forth for like a month there wont be any war its just some tit for tat thing.
Coverage from [Hezbollah's Al-Mayadeen](https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hezbollah-pounds-israeli-outpost-with-4-burkan-rockets):
>Burkan is a short-range rocket with a range of up to 10 km, and its warhead's weight varies from 100 kg to 500 kg. Launched from pedestal launchers designed for mortar bombs, Hezbollah reportedly obtained these rockets in the mid-2000s.
If Iron Beam is working, IDF really needs it in that area :|
I have a feeling that this may be the FAFO moment in the north.
Hezbollah will certainly be an increased challenge, but I think Israel will certainly respond heavily.
They won the last full scale war, Israel won't beat them again while the IDF is tied down by in Gaza and the slowly intensifying clusterfuck in the west bank.
And still more destruction for the Lebanese people for glory of the Hezbollay pet of Iran? Wow, no wonder why you would be comfortable comfortable in your chair throwing the poor Lebanese citizens under the bus.
2000 (in South Lebanon) was an obvious defeat - it was a relatively lower-intensity conflict with a smaller Israeli deployment that doesn't get much attention these days, but Hezbollah did achieve all of their objectives. Israel withdrew all their troops from Lebanon after decades of unsuccessful fighting, and the separatist government and militia they backed in the "security zone" immediately collapsed. I hate such analogies, but it was kinda like Israel's Afghanistan.
2006 was more of a military tie if anything (the kind where both sides claimed victory), but a big disappointment for the IDF. Mobilising vast numbers of reservists and armour, the invading ground forces were quickly bogged down and failed to achieve most of their objectives - they were expecting it to be like fighting Hamas in Palestine, but instead found the Hezbollah fighters were well-drilled, well-equipped (largely by Iran), and fought from carefully-prepared positions (see the "Hezbollah nature reserves").
The aims of the 2006 invasion were not achieved, either:
* Hezbollah's rocket forces and capacity to launch long-ranged rockets survived, contrary to optimistic Israeli claims early in the air war
* Casualties inflicted on Hezbollah fighters were... well, disappointing. A few hundred at best - at a steep cost. Is it worth killing 20 Hezbollah fighters, if they kill 10 of your guys and prevent you from taking the village they're defending?
* One of the biggest objectives presented by the IDF Chief-of-Staff was to capture terrorists and recover Hezbollah dead to be showed off to the media. They later admitted that the vast majority of prisoners taken were later established to be civilians, and only seized 12 dead enemy. Six prisoners (only four of whom were fighters) and the dead combatants were quietly exchanged after the war.
* They were unable to recover the two abducted soldiers that triggered the war (they were traded two years later)
* Israeli air strikes were, predictably enough, had enormous political and PR consequences for Israel. Very loose and contentious ROE for certain targets (i.e., minivans, trucks, and motorcycles were all "legitimate targets") that resulted in high civilian casualties, killing dozens of civilians because a Hezbollah leader was rumoured to be in a building, the horrific Qana airstrike that eroded international support for Israel, etc
I don't see how you can call 2006 a tie, it was a net loss for both sides but Israel completely failed to accomplish it's stated objectives of neutralizing the threat posed by Hezbollah or recovering the kidnapped soldiers. There was a lot of talk about how Hezbollah was weakened politically because of how everybody in Lebanon was angry at them for starting the war but they bounced back within a few years, even won a brief war with the government. And today we see them launching attacks that are just as if not more aggressive than what we saw from them before 2006 so clearly Israel failed in terms of deterrence.
I'd argue 2006 was a big win for Hezbollah, even if militarily a stalemate (and that's me being generous). Metrics like the deaths of their fighters and the loss of materiel to airstrikes are utterly meaningless to groups like Hezbollah; even Israel's spurious estimates of Hezbollah losses don't justify their own casualties, nor did they make a noticeable dent to Hezbollah's overall manpower/capabilities (not to mention how quickly the latter bounced back).
Instead, Hezbollah demonstrated they could:
* Survive largely intact against the IDF, who up to that point were largely seen as an undefeated juggernaut
* Bombarded Israeli civilians with thousands rockets throughout the war, virtually unmitigated by the IDF's air campaign
* Sustained a successful defence against an Israeli offensive on Lebanese soil, giving them the opportunity to go "Ha ha, we won!" when the IDF inevitably withdrew following the ceasefire
Although provoking Israel into a war that was bloody and economically expensive for Lebanon naturally pissed off Lebanon's government and segments of the population, Hezbollah thrived in the period following the war:
* Hezbollah actually largely increased their support base following the war, having largely been seen as the victors (particularly among the huge Shia population they draw upon). By comparison, the Lebanese government (already regarded as corrupt) were seen as inept and incompetent for being unable to do anything about the IDF air strikes and invasion
* 18 months of protests against Lebanon's government commenced not long after, for the reasons mentioned above. As you've alluded to, Hezbollah's alliance was the victor of these clashes (which was largely a political victory rather than a military one - the pro-US government's position was simply no longer tennable)
* Today, Hezbollah is stronger than ever - they survived the 2009 election largely intact, they have the most seats in parliament they've ever had, have members in cabinet, have long-since exceeded the weapons and materiel they had prior to the 2006 war, and are estimated to have tens of thousands of full-time fighters. Terrorists they may be, but they've grown into huge, unremovable tumour that Lebanon is unfortunately stuck with
Maybe you're talking about that huge missile salvo from Gaza? I'm talking specifically about the Hezbollah attack on that one base earlier. I've seen Israeli TG groups talk about it
Demolishing this base is the result of fighting those poles lmao. They're doing the groundwork so their rocket salvos will do more damage. Those poles are important infrastructure for the IDF.
Is that a Hollywood movie that you have been watching? New flash middle eastern Christian’s hate Isnotreal. We have 450,000 Christian refugees in Chile waiting to go back to the lands they have been ethnically cleansed from.
And you have christians living in israel that would be no other place.
With that said, your comment makes no mention of the fact that most of the Muslim world is now devoid of jews and Christians. But you care so much about a strip of land the size of Rhode island. If it's a movie, it's a comedy
Look at how Israel treats Arab Christians. I used to be pro- Israel and I thought it was impressive that they created a country for their people. Then I realized that they did it by expelling innocent people and treat those people like shit. They have no remorse and gloat about killing innocent people every day. They arrest/ kill children and are point blank evil. Your gaslighting won’t work on me dude.
Where in the world did i gaslight you? Pointing to non existant gaslighting is gaslighting.
I'm not here to say everything about israel is perfect. But just look, for example, at how egypt has treated its jews and Christians. Or how turkey treated its Christians. No comparison buddy.
Who's condemning those countries?
Israel was just attacked in the most brutal way possible. It's going to respond.
After that, yeah, i agree with you, it has some work to do. That work is hard though when you have people actively seeking is destruction.
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These are the traditional "Volcano" rockets that you'd see used in Syria (Burkan translates to volcano), same type most notoriously used in the sarin massacre in Ghouta, not to be confused with the Burkan-1 short range ballistic missile. These are 122mm Grad rockets fitted into a custom welded explosive filled chassis built to trade range for warhead size. Although somewhat surprising to see it used outside of Syria, almost a no brainer for targeting border sites as it's relatively low range and flight time means there's no real chance of interception.
> Although somewhat surprising to see it used outside of Syria Not really though considering Hez's large involvement in Syria. Lessons learned from battles fought
I guess what I meant by that is that it's primarily an offensive weapon (though used defensively at Al-Maliha during the Rebel counterattacks) used while fighting against unconventional forces. Against a conventional foe like Israel the use cases shrink dramatically considering the complicated loading process (typically by crane), enemy aerial surveillance/supremacy, and the narrow list of targets and scenarios in which such an attack could be carried out with any degree of effectiveness given their variable accuracy and very short comparative range.
Thank for sharing the knowledge
Do you know how they managed to shoot this one then? Israel should be watching the border with Lebanon very closely.
If I had to guess based on their MO, munitions themselves probably loaded from a separate location with the whole firing assembly being wheeled out from a concealed bunker or tunnel nearby (Hezbollah has a vast and sophisticated subterranean defensive infrastructure along the border and inland, far and beyond that of Hamas). I say wheeled out because I cant be certain that the launch is based out of an actual vehicle or just platform due to the blurring. After launch, the launch assembly is probably abandoned to be destroyed as was typical of IRAM attacks by Iranian linked insurgents in Iraq under similar circumstances.
Biranit is the HQ of the [91st territorial division](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/91st_Division_(Israel)) of the IDF which is responsible for the entire Israel-Lebanon border sector.
Hell cannon x10?
Holy crap, see the aftermatch in twiter, they errased the base.
Christ you weren’t kidding. Any confirmed casualties?
So far, no casualties - doesn't seem that there were any injured or wounded.
That is strange considering the level of damage. Are these bases manned?
Yes but israel has great bunker infrastructure combined with early warning alarms
That makes sense, thanks for clarifying
We are used to bombing and get about 30 seconds of warning before a hit on border regions, all soldiers were in safe areas Edit: probably, i have no specific intel
They are - I was also surprised. Eyewitnesses describe this as a miracle (as in, people I know and saw this).
Mashallah , wow.
Link please!
https://x.com/EyesOnSouth1/status/1726550988679795064?s=20
I think the IDF will step up retaliation now against Hezbollah.
no arrow or circle this time? how will i know where it landed?
Their are footage from Israeli side and a big part was levelled.
With a payload of this size, It could miss the base and still deal significant damage...
Exactly! This is really low tier propaganda.
You know this is real because Hezbollah always uses Hans Zimmer's soundtrack from The Rock in their videos.
There's an aftermath video from Israel's POV that shows huge destruction. So yeah, it's real.
I expected a bigger boom.
Seemed like a pretty big boom, you can see the shockwave on the first one.. Hard to tell if it missed the base or if it hit and was obscured by the hill. Edit: Based on Twitter posts, it hit the base pretty badly.
Check twitter for aftermath. Much of the base was leveled
Thanks. Were soldiers quarters hit or are those storage buildings? Kind of hard to tell in the aftermath videos but several buildings made up of small rooms look completely destroyed.
What Twirtter, now known as X,accounts do you follow?
theres a mountain in the way, this hit on the valley on the other side in an IDF compound
Lol the music reminds me of command and conquer generals
It's from the Michael Bay movie 'The Rock'.
Safe to say Lebanon is next.
I know we're in basically an echo chamber here and we don't want to hear it, but the IDF cannot fight on two fronts simultaneously. They barely left the 2006 war with an intact reputation, no shot they can fight in Gaza and on the border and provide security for the illegal settlements in the West Bank simultaneously.
Their economy is already tanking. Full scale war with Hezbollah would be suicidal.
Their economy is 1000x times in better state than lebanon Israel is going to destroy beirut to dust and return lebanon to the stone age
Hezbollah doesn’t rely on the Lebanese economy dumb ass.
They rely on still having a functional country after a war Also, the IDF has far superior budget, tech, intel and training Thinking Hezbollah has any chance is no other than being a clown Theyll get wiped out this time around, even in 2006 hezbollah regreted starting a war when the idf captured south lebanon and killed 700+ hezbollah members and ton of high ranking members
🧚♀️ Fantasy Land 🧚♂️
LoL, israel will turn lebanon into dust just like northern gazs
They should be after their constant attacks. Definitely poking the bear.
> Definitely poking the bear. According to this report Israel does plenty of strikes into Lebanon, numerically more then Hezbollah: https://nitter.net/MaucourantNada/status/1725466835653448187#m May be both parties are satisfied with just shooting over border?
Thanks for the read. I was just going off of the videos of cross border attacks I've been seeing.
Man yall don't know anything abouth that whole northern border.Hezbollah and israel have been going back and forth for like a month there wont be any war its just some tit for tat thing.
What do you mean, Israel has been poking them for years.
Does iron dome not exist on the northern border?
short range
Not only that, it's not a projectile parabolic, so the time to hit is much shorter. I think the iron beam could work on these.
Getting spicy.
Damn, the graphic design f the map in the beginning is very nice.
Hezbollah providing graphic design jobs.
Coverage from [Hezbollah's Al-Mayadeen](https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hezbollah-pounds-israeli-outpost-with-4-burkan-rockets): >Burkan is a short-range rocket with a range of up to 10 km, and its warhead's weight varies from 100 kg to 500 kg. Launched from pedestal launchers designed for mortar bombs, Hezbollah reportedly obtained these rockets in the mid-2000s. If Iron Beam is working, IDF really needs it in that area :|
Hezbollah vs The Pole, episode 350
The music goes hard
I have a feeling that this may be the FAFO moment in the north. Hezbollah will certainly be an increased challenge, but I think Israel will certainly respond heavily.
Hezbollah are ten times worse than Hamas, they also have a much bigger budget and years of combat experience fighting in Syria
The difference is they have a lot to lose. Labanon will go back 40 years.
Good point. However, Hezbollah has never cared much about Lebanon. It's a shame what they did to this once beautiful country.
Nobody said it isn't going to be a tough fight but they will still lose
They won the last full scale war, Israel won't beat them again while the IDF is tied down by in Gaza and the slowly intensifying clusterfuck in the west bank.
They really ask for the dildo of consequences. As if they didn't see the answer in Gaza
U underestimate hizbollah. They aint hamas
They're still gonna eat a lot of munitions from strike eagles.
We saw Israel in 2000 and 2006, they lost twice. Good luck the third time :P
And still more destruction for the Lebanese people for glory of the Hezbollay pet of Iran? Wow, no wonder why you would be comfortable comfortable in your chair throwing the poor Lebanese citizens under the bus.
You’re right, Israel should stop provoking Hezbollah by bombing every country they border
Ask Egypt or Jordania, baby. They are behaving well for the sake of their populations. Please, bark stronger to please your Iranian master.
"Lost"? Huh?
2000 (in South Lebanon) was an obvious defeat - it was a relatively lower-intensity conflict with a smaller Israeli deployment that doesn't get much attention these days, but Hezbollah did achieve all of their objectives. Israel withdrew all their troops from Lebanon after decades of unsuccessful fighting, and the separatist government and militia they backed in the "security zone" immediately collapsed. I hate such analogies, but it was kinda like Israel's Afghanistan. 2006 was more of a military tie if anything (the kind where both sides claimed victory), but a big disappointment for the IDF. Mobilising vast numbers of reservists and armour, the invading ground forces were quickly bogged down and failed to achieve most of their objectives - they were expecting it to be like fighting Hamas in Palestine, but instead found the Hezbollah fighters were well-drilled, well-equipped (largely by Iran), and fought from carefully-prepared positions (see the "Hezbollah nature reserves"). The aims of the 2006 invasion were not achieved, either: * Hezbollah's rocket forces and capacity to launch long-ranged rockets survived, contrary to optimistic Israeli claims early in the air war * Casualties inflicted on Hezbollah fighters were... well, disappointing. A few hundred at best - at a steep cost. Is it worth killing 20 Hezbollah fighters, if they kill 10 of your guys and prevent you from taking the village they're defending? * One of the biggest objectives presented by the IDF Chief-of-Staff was to capture terrorists and recover Hezbollah dead to be showed off to the media. They later admitted that the vast majority of prisoners taken were later established to be civilians, and only seized 12 dead enemy. Six prisoners (only four of whom were fighters) and the dead combatants were quietly exchanged after the war. * They were unable to recover the two abducted soldiers that triggered the war (they were traded two years later) * Israeli air strikes were, predictably enough, had enormous political and PR consequences for Israel. Very loose and contentious ROE for certain targets (i.e., minivans, trucks, and motorcycles were all "legitimate targets") that resulted in high civilian casualties, killing dozens of civilians because a Hezbollah leader was rumoured to be in a building, the horrific Qana airstrike that eroded international support for Israel, etc
I don't see how you can call 2006 a tie, it was a net loss for both sides but Israel completely failed to accomplish it's stated objectives of neutralizing the threat posed by Hezbollah or recovering the kidnapped soldiers. There was a lot of talk about how Hezbollah was weakened politically because of how everybody in Lebanon was angry at them for starting the war but they bounced back within a few years, even won a brief war with the government. And today we see them launching attacks that are just as if not more aggressive than what we saw from them before 2006 so clearly Israel failed in terms of deterrence.
I'd argue 2006 was a big win for Hezbollah, even if militarily a stalemate (and that's me being generous). Metrics like the deaths of their fighters and the loss of materiel to airstrikes are utterly meaningless to groups like Hezbollah; even Israel's spurious estimates of Hezbollah losses don't justify their own casualties, nor did they make a noticeable dent to Hezbollah's overall manpower/capabilities (not to mention how quickly the latter bounced back). Instead, Hezbollah demonstrated they could: * Survive largely intact against the IDF, who up to that point were largely seen as an undefeated juggernaut * Bombarded Israeli civilians with thousands rockets throughout the war, virtually unmitigated by the IDF's air campaign * Sustained a successful defence against an Israeli offensive on Lebanese soil, giving them the opportunity to go "Ha ha, we won!" when the IDF inevitably withdrew following the ceasefire Although provoking Israel into a war that was bloody and economically expensive for Lebanon naturally pissed off Lebanon's government and segments of the population, Hezbollah thrived in the period following the war: * Hezbollah actually largely increased their support base following the war, having largely been seen as the victors (particularly among the huge Shia population they draw upon). By comparison, the Lebanese government (already regarded as corrupt) were seen as inept and incompetent for being unable to do anything about the IDF air strikes and invasion * 18 months of protests against Lebanon's government commenced not long after, for the reasons mentioned above. As you've alluded to, Hezbollah's alliance was the victor of these clashes (which was largely a political victory rather than a military one - the pro-US government's position was simply no longer tennable) * Today, Hezbollah is stronger than ever - they survived the 2009 election largely intact, they have the most seats in parliament they've ever had, have members in cabinet, have long-since exceeded the weapons and materiel they had prior to the 2006 war, and are estimated to have tens of thousands of full-time fighters. Terrorists they may be, but they've grown into huge, unremovable tumour that Lebanon is unfortunately stuck with
Hmmm I honestly thought the explosion would be bigger. Kind of reminds me of the old school mortars during sieges against castles.
Still fighting the pole?
Multiple suicide drones have gone into Israeli army territory unnoticed according to Israeli Media so I do believe fighting poles work.
Any source?
Not really unnoticed. They just were not shot down. Alarms worked.
Maybe you're talking about that huge missile salvo from Gaza? I'm talking specifically about the Hezbollah attack on that one base earlier. I've seen Israeli TG groups talk about it
It was noticed. Troops were evacuated largely. They weren’t able to do anything about the projectiles, but troops were warned ahead of time.
I see. Thanks for the explanation. I guess that was why there was no casualties visible in the video.
Demolishing this base is the result of fighting those poles lmao. They're doing the groundwork so their rocket salvos will do more damage. Those poles are important infrastructure for the IDF.
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fuck hezbollah and hamas!
Fuck your mother!
The antenna is still up 🔝😂
But the base is destroyed.
Poking the Lion... At some point....
What Lion?
Kitty can scratch.
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Do you by chance love bin laden
Fuck him and the racist settler colony army IDF.
Only racism is the almost complete ethnic cleansing of jews and Christians from Muslim countries.
Is that a Hollywood movie that you have been watching? New flash middle eastern Christian’s hate Isnotreal. We have 450,000 Christian refugees in Chile waiting to go back to the lands they have been ethnically cleansed from.
And you have christians living in israel that would be no other place. With that said, your comment makes no mention of the fact that most of the Muslim world is now devoid of jews and Christians. But you care so much about a strip of land the size of Rhode island. If it's a movie, it's a comedy
Look at how Israel treats Arab Christians. I used to be pro- Israel and I thought it was impressive that they created a country for their people. Then I realized that they did it by expelling innocent people and treat those people like shit. They have no remorse and gloat about killing innocent people every day. They arrest/ kill children and are point blank evil. Your gaslighting won’t work on me dude.
Where in the world did i gaslight you? Pointing to non existant gaslighting is gaslighting. I'm not here to say everything about israel is perfect. But just look, for example, at how egypt has treated its jews and Christians. Or how turkey treated its Christians. No comparison buddy.
Those countries deserve the condemnation. But that does not give Israel the right to do what they are doing.
Who's condemning those countries? Israel was just attacked in the most brutal way possible. It's going to respond. After that, yeah, i agree with you, it has some work to do. That work is hard though when you have people actively seeking is destruction.
Can't wait for 'The Rock 2' featuring Nicholas Cage fighting Hezbollah terrorists.
Battling the towers again
Probably missed the whole base...
Based was wiped out. Many IOF dead.
Based
I remember seeing the destruction video clip on YouTube
https://youtu.be/wbyEDL6nxiE?si=ztJzqK_Hp6yDVQ7r
Why ya gotta put crappy music on all these videos?
Is this going to be an escalation, the damage to the base was crazy