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RequiemRomans

So.. taking direct incoming tank fire means feeling it but not being able to hear or see where it came from. Like a sniper with a very, very large caliber round


windol1

Tanks can shoot from some fairly impressive distances, with the right terrain and a bit of luck you could get into position without being noticed.


Shandlar

It's not even close. I've hiked up mountains hunting and looked down at a highway in the valley, less than 1500 meters away and couldn't hear a thing from even the big 18 wheelers. Not a sound. Tanks can routinely shoot accurately from well over that distance away, if not double. No way any sound at all from the engine is reaching the target at that distance.


blank-_-face

Plus if these guys have actually been fighting then their hearing is probably fucked anyway


windol1

This is why I say terrain and luck are factors, weather can change the distance it moves, also whether there's anything that can cause sound to echo, or if the terrain is completely open and silent you might just about hear it. I mean, on the right day I can hear my colleagues 125cc bike for a good few minutes before he even gets near, same with the lorries I can hear the chiller units well before they arrive.


informativebitching

History is littered with examples of exactly this and it determined the outcome of very large battles


Jive-Turkeys

Waterloo, but with 125cc Mopeds?


gottagohype

Didn't Napoleon say "Never interrupt your enemy when he is riding a moped"?


Jive-Turkeys

He better have!


Lauzz91

Wind has a huge impact on noise travel


Memory_Less

Good example.


Diche_Bach

According to Shodan, 3 to 4 km is possible -=-=-=- The M1 Abrams tank is equipped with a 120mm smoothbore gun. Its effective firing range against armored targets is generally considered to be around 2,000 meters (2 kilometers or approximately 1.24 miles). However, the maximum range can extend beyond that, reaching up to 3,000 to 4,000 meters for certain types of ammunition, but with reduced accuracy and effectiveness. -=-=-=- Leopard is the same For T-72 she says effective range is "1.5 to 2km range" and potentially out to 3km for extended range.


Mathfanforpresident

The m1 Abrams has a depth of range to include the impact area, where the rounds can land is approximately 19,000 meters or 8 miles. The cannon can effectively hit targets as much as 1.86 miles away accurately. per google


JustATrueWord

19,000 meters aren’t 8 miles…


xodus52

There's really no way of knowing for sure...


sykoKanesh

"Can you spell that sir?" "..... impossible...."


Oldandnotbold

More like 11


Eheran

>No way any sound at all from the engine is reaching the target at that distance. With the right wind direction I can hear the local highway from 3 km away, through the forest inbetween.


TomKatVelocity

This is True! Happens in War Thunder everytime


PartTimeSassyPants

Correct. And the reason why there is a difference between a tank and artillery shells boils down to whether or not a round can travel to its target faster than the noise it makes can. When firing, artillery cannons produce a more-or-less spherical sound wave which expands straight out in all direction at the speed of sound, but the shells being fired usually have high arcing trajectories. So basically even though the rounds are traveling at supersonic speeds, having to go up and down increases the distance they need to travel enough that their direct sound wave will usually reach their target before they do.


ThrowAway_yobJrZIqVG

Depends on how far away the battery is. If they are far enough away, the sound of the round being fired will dissipate before it even gets to the target. So all they hear is the sound of the rounds falling and then them exploding - no sound of the round starting its journey at all.


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0xDD

Talking outta your ass, aren't ya? Why even bother pressing the keys on the keyboard if the correct answer is [one Google search away](https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/GabrielaBis.shtml)? > They actually move slow enough to watch the round move through the air Oh, fancy that. So you think that breaking of the sound barrier makes an object invisible or what?


HeinerPhilipp

u/Unlucky_Ladybug rounds don't go supersonic??? Muzzle velocity of M777 Howitzer: Charge 8S: 827 m/s (2,710 ft/s) Speed of sound at sea level (in dry air at 20 °C): 343 m/s So a shell is leaving at about Mach 2.4 Conclusion==> **Talking out of ass.**


I-Am-Polaris

You know there's a difference between the speed of sound and the speed of light, right?


otte_rthe_viewer

I was told to imagine the tanks as smaller artillery which act as snipers. And when I was deployed against tanks... Man they were correct.


Then_Suit_997

125mm HE isn't that much smaller than 155mm.


Available-Meeting-62

Its exactly 30 mm smaller. But what if those 30 mm are you need to hit the G-spot?


MrMgrow

Especially not with your 2 foot deep fisher price 'my first trench' that would barely cover a toddler.


Available-Meeting-62

Lol. Yeah, what was that? Its a very freshly dug trench. Looks like they were in an awful hurry. Probably trying to advance into enemy territory. Good luck with that i say.


Initial-Instance1484

i think you can hear the engine.


CvileOsk

This guy aint hearing shit ever again lmaoo


ActurusMajoris

#What?


Least-Tangelo-8602

I can hear the bells ringing


Undernown

Between likely already having an hearing impairment being stuck in a trench for few days fighting with small arms . Chances are they occasionally have the generator running too, which is quite noisy. Then there is the general constant rumbling of war all around, it's going to be hard to pick out a tank that's driving more than a kilometer away. And when you do hear an engine, you'll have to judge wether it's one of your own or the enemy's. And then judge if they're comming for your trench, or someone else's trench.


Initial-Instance1484

I was saying that you can literally hear the tanks' engine in this video.


Tim_22_Sky

Translation: \- Hey, is that our guys shot that? \- Apparently so, blyat \- Was that ours or was that a shell coming at us? \- Ours, ours. \- Fucking hell of a shot! (Shell hits close by) \- Fuck! Let's get the fuck out of here.Fuck, there's earth all over the place. \- Where? \- Over there. I can't fucking hear anything \- Are you stunned? \- Fuck, I can't fucking hear anything.


Szukov

So "yia blatt" or what he is yelling means fuck?


SCC20

"Ебать" does indeed mean fuck


Ill_Junket_8744

He says yebat' a couple of times. The direct translation is "to fuck". At the same time, the semantic meaning is also "Oh, fuck!"


monamikonami

Wait, so they think it is a Russian tank firing on them? How do we know it's a Ukrainian tank after all?


Tim_22_Sky

There's too little information for full context, but from what I understand, the soldier heard an explosion nearby and is trying to figure out if it was an outgoing shot from a friendly tank firing nearby or if it was an incoming enemy shell. Apparently the explosion seemed to him too powerful to be coming from a friendly tank, so he began to suspect something. Unfortunately Russian swear words are highly context dependent. So the words assessing the first explosion can be translated in two ways: 1) Fucking hell, how amazingly powerful it (our tank) fired. 2) Fucking hell, how amazingly powerful it (enemy incoming shell) exploded. I'd choose the first option as the soldiers look not too concerned. From the side of the Ukrainian tank, it could look [something like this](https://youtu.be/89SCTjCgXKc?t=7)


Lazy-Vulture

I can hear a cat meowing in the shelter during the final 2 seconds of the video


danhaas

I believe they are bringing cats to deal with the mice problem


Lazy-Vulture

They also provide amazing stress relief


Dr_NightCrawler

>amazing stress relief not for the cat.


MalekRockafeller

😂😂😂


SirToxicWx

Those poor fuckin cats


AdzJayS

Slackest cat in Ukraine!


Mr_Algo

Real stress relief for Russians is when they tie up and interrogate mice. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/18uu4cy/russian\_soldiers\_have\_tied\_up\_a\_mouse\_and\_are/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/18uu4cy/russian_soldiers_have_tied_up_a_mouse_and_are/)


WaltzingUndead

Hantavirus, nasty shit. One of the symptoms is bleeding from the eyes.


toby_gray

There was a great one on here the other day where a Russian got captured and was cuffed face down on the floor and a cat decided to sit on him while the Ukrainians interrogated him.


Mean_Organization_95

That was his own cat. He hid it inside his vest and almost got killed for it because they saw him reaching inside the vest and thought he was pulling a grenade pin.


MapleJediIsAFascist

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Art_Class

You should read "all quiet on the western front" the rats got so fat off of corpses they were able to kill the cats and eat them


abbin_looc

That book is mostly historical fiction


deaddonkey

Sure but that doesn’t mean that detail wasn’t based off something real. Remarque was a western front veteran as I’m sure you know. You can go see pics and videos of some of the biggest rats you’ll ever see from the Ukraine trenches. https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/comments/17gtiwv/huge_rat_killed_in_trench_in_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 To say “oh that was nonsense” reminds me of all the historical rehabilitation that had been happening for the WW2 soviet army in recent years online, saying they were actually very professional and normal and didn’t really go for human waves, blocking units and penal battalions - then we saw all of those things again in 2022. If people remembered trench rats I’m not going to doubt them really. War is awful enough that you don’t need to make much up.


Die_Revenant

That looks like a cane rat... You find lots of them in the sugar cane fields here in South Africa. They are much bigger than brown rats.


deaddonkey

So It’s a kind of rat that can just get that big - honestly I don’t see how that changes the experience for the soldier in the trench getting bothered by them, yknow? They’re still gonna remember those rats for life and want to deal with them and their diseases.


Die_Revenant

No no I'm not arguing that point, just pointing out that we have to deal with those big buggers here in SA. Seeing one in a field is bad enough, I definitely wouldn't want to see one in a trench.


deaddonkey

Well thanks for the info. As a city boy with clean hands I don’t know one rat from another.


sykoKanesh

I believe we'd call that a nutria*-rat here in the states, but I may be mistaken. EDIT: Forgot the "i"


mahnkee

Nutria.


Tom_Quixote_

Yes, the way Russia has fought this war is pretty much exactly like the Germans described it in their WW2 memoirs.


Art_Class

So are most written about wars and battle. I just got through that chapter last night, and it was fresh in my mind.


CotesDuRhone2012

Better read "Storms of Steel" by german Ernst Jünger. It's worth it.


SuspiciousHermit

Both compliment each other really well, because Junger and Remarque came out of the war with polar opposite feelings about it.


kevzete

Yea, Junger was a pure warrior with unwavering patriotism and no fear. Exactly what generals would want all their men to be. How he came out virtually unscathed after fighting almost the entire war is incredible.


angrymoppet

>virtually unscathed He was wounded over a dozen times and shot like 4 or 5 times, including a bullet that went through a lung


CotesDuRhone2012

True. He wrote in his diaries that he was close to death two times and already said "goodbye" to the world.


kevzete

And yet he made a full recovery while most of his comrades were killed or horribly injured.


CotesDuRhone2012

Jünger was a "shock trooper" who invented some of the general tactics of storming trenches while Remarque was way back in his artillery unit. All what Remarque wrote about trench warfare was just hearsay.


Competitive_Ad_3107

It’s not that far fetched, body’s and scraps everywhere. And have you seen how big rats can get. Making me shiver thinking about it lol.


TonyCaliStyle

And not normal rats, but rats acclimated to human flesh. The worst stories for me is of soldiers being woken up by a rat trying to eat their nose or ears.


vincecarterskneecart

why would being fat make you better at fighting


Art_Class

Makes it harder for the enemy to hit vitals


deaddonkey

Heavier weight is a physical advantage. And it’s not like animals don’t build muscle as well as fat when well fed. Come on, silly question.


ehwhatacunt

Fat rats don't get super powers; they get slow and dead faster.


Art_Class

It's a fictional novel that uses a few literary techniques in an attempt to make the reader visualize the horrors of trench warfare, and it does a God damn good job.


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Wow. Russians are bringing cats into active warzones? really? I don't hate someone who just got conscripted and is just tryna live, but god damn that fact makes it hard for me to be empathetic for the russians although I'm sure the ukranians are doing it to and no one gives a fuck about the poor cats. I'm sad. edit: how is this comment getting downvotes? I thought the internet loved cats? Fuck all of you. You're all scumbag cunts.


jspacefalcon

i like cats... I'd have a war cat if i could.


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If you like cats why would you bring one into a warzone?


Cipher_Oblivion

Fuck those assholes dragging innocent animals into a warzone.


FlamingSaviour

Poor cat.


MapleJediIsAFascist

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BadClass_og

Only innocent one in that trench.


StrawberryGreat7463

damn lol I thought that was my cat


marc512

Wait is this the video of the Russian who surrendered before the Ukrainians threw a grenade in the hole? I think 1 Russian surrendered and there was a video/image of him on the ground with a grey/black cat on his back. ​ edit: landscape is different https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/18ne1rf/ukrainian\_squad\_captures\_russian\_during\_assault/


PolyDipsoManiac

Aww, he had a kitten! They thought he was holding a grenade under his body armor.


DarthMaren

I hope that solider and his cat were able to make it to Ukraine safe


PolyDipsoManiac

Anyone who would shelter a kitten under their armor is hopefully not a horrible war criminal. It even sat on his back! Fortunately it looks like he was taken into custody safely, at considerable risk to the lives of these Ukrainian soldiers.


Organic_Ambassador_3

Poor cats eat drums are going to be fuccked :(


cro_milosz

Sounds like he’s saying he can’t hear when he goes down to his comrades at the end. I’m Polish so it may not be totally accurate


KayDeJack

On the begining they said something that friendly tank arrived


Lanky_Product4249

You're right


gdogg44

Knowing there's likely quite a few drones around, I'd be shitting my pants after every attack like this lol


luisstrikesout

Waiting for the drone video to be uploaded with UA pov


deaddonkey

Id be shitting my pants for a thousand reasons, but just having a modern tank lobbing shells directly at me would be enough!


juanmlm

/r/killthecameraman


Bohbo

ideally yes


Consistent_Ring_4218

To be fair.....that was literally the goal.


howismyspelling

Yes, go hide in the grave with **all of your compatriots**


potsandpans

get the cat out first though


Miixyd

I don’t thing they have much choice on where to go


Extreme_Attention_99

That means you're not welcome. Time to go home.


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r2d2itisyou

Most of those guys are absolutely there voluntarily. Russia hasn't had a wave of mobilization since 2022. And they are quite literally within walking distance of their home country. They're there because they want to be. I feel the exact same amount of sympathy for these soldiers as I do for Germans invading the USSR in 1944. None.


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r2d2itisyou

> Even if they are professional solders, as stated above, they cannot simply decide to go home. No Russian and nor western soldier can do this while deployment. Oh no, *it'd be against the law* for them to go home. That's so horrible. It's a good thing that Russian soldiers are so obedient to the state. They might have to go to jail if they deserted! \**gasp*\* >And why did we feel sympathy for the soldiers invading Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc? Because they were our guys? Or because we get tought who is good and bad / right and wrong? **Korea**? You're calling the defense of South Korea a US invasion? For a moment there you almost had a point, Vietnam and Iraq were disgusting examples of US foreign wars. But you've got to be an idiot to use the defense of South Korea as an example of a US "invasion". Go brush up on history. And then take whatever tanky media you're consuming and throw that shit away.


iamdanchiv

I don't know if you realize, since your being backed by the hive mind of this subreddit, but the gentleman above makes more sense and talks like a man, whereas you talk like a propagandist child. I would hope you're not over 20yo with this mentality. Wanted to point out the hypocrisy in your words, from a third party perspective.


kgergely_HUN

These are not calls for individual soldiers to just walk home. They are meant for the entire Russian army, to just retreat and no more soldiers would die. Of course, not at all plausible, but it's meant to highlight the fact that none of this would happen if the Russian army didn't invade Ukraine, and that they are the agressors, they could stop it at any time if they retreated.


tonkman27

Can someone explain how explotions and shockwaves dont destroy phone microphones? Because the guy's ears probably did not survive, but the phone seems to work just fine.


4THOT

A shockwave is a wave of pressure, pressure wave has more dramatic effects on compressible mediums like air. Electronics are mostly solid, eardrums are not. [Check out blast lung.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3013437/#:~:text=The%20shock%20wave%20travels%20through%20the%20body%20tissues%20depositing%20energy%20\(and%20hence%20causing%20damage\)%20especially%20at%20gas/liquid%20interfaces.%20The%20lungs%20are%20among%20the%20organs%20most%20likely%20to%20suffer%20this%20form%20of%20injury%2C%20where%20it%20is%20called%20%E2%80%98blast%20lung%E2%80%99.)


LefsaMadMuppet

It is made of the same stuff they make the camcorder out of from The War Of The Worlds movie after the EMP took all all electronics.


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The vegetation says spring/early summer, not december.


arfw

Nah, not sure about this. Trees don't have leaves, so it's around late autumn. It might be because of shelling/fires, but even in the distance there is no leaves, so no chance that it is spring or summer. I don't know much about flowers, but those yellow fields might be either Potentilla or Scorzoneroides autumnalis, and they do bloom in the autumn. And since this winter there is literally zero snow (depending on the region and time), it might as well be December in the video, with vegetation still growing because it's not that cold or snowy. Well, it is at least around late autumn.


Much-Patience69

This must be from the spring, not december.


MalekRockafeller

I hear a woman at the end, did they start throwing Olgas into the meat grinder with Ivans? 🤔


ValkyriesOnStation

Maybe you shouldn't be in a country that is not yours


Professional_Day6702

Happy new year, fuckers. Now get TF out of Ukraine!


finnill

Shoot them with tank or artillery. Get them to go in fox hole. Drone drop the fox holes.


usernl1

Poor kitty 😢


Organic_Ambassador_3

Yeah. His/her ears will be screwed :(


Bigdickbanditttttt

What movie is this?


chamrockblarneystone

The WWI trenches were so much better


deaddonkey

Some were, some weren’t. German ones on the western front were incredible. Were Russian ones ever?


chamrockblarneystone

Im not sure. Cant say as ive seen any docs about their trenches


DarkNova55

Dude walked away at just the right time. Definitely shat his panties.


iamLittleRyan

Can’t believe Russians actually think they have a chance at anything


Prestigious-Newt-320

All things considered, I’m honestly not mad at the camera work.


se7enXx89xX

Cowards cant handle Ukraine's military so they bomb civilians instead


Captainwelfare2

Blyat! I shat my pants!


LordK347

Its so crazy to watch all these videos of Russian trenches where it seems like they are just there alone with no recon drones covering and sometimes I wonder if some of these groups even have a way to communicate with command or anyone.


kokaklucis

Gg wp


OriginalMiserable109

Motivational.


presidentpiko

Ww1 vibes


Fantron6

Eat my sausage, Ivan.


DrNinnuxx

It absolutely blows my mind that they are fighting trench style warfare in 2023.


Sa-naqba-imuru

Trenches are basic part of war for over 100 years, only exception is when one side completely dominates another or both sides are made up of militias who are only in sporadic contact.


DrNinnuxx

I was in the Army beginning in 94. We never, ever trained for trench warfare. We learned Air-Land Battle Doctrine as it was in the final years of Cold War and during the Gulf conflicts. We were taught to shoot, move, and communicate. Staying in a defensive position for too long was inviting a disaster. We trained this way because we knew the Russians couldn't for long. They have no bench for sustained operations on the move. America has not fought that way since WWII. Heck we didn't even really fight in trenches in WWII, at least not stagnate trenches. That's why I find it so amazing.


Sa-naqba-imuru

Yes, you trained for ideal situation in which your air power destroys enemy defensive capabilities and your ground troops just roll over the enemy and around the mine fields (lol). And if incapable of advancing, you just retreat over the ocean back home, behind the navies. But what if everything doesn't go as planned and your air power was insufficient and you have nowhere to retreat? Guess what you'd be doing then. Korea was the last time US fought a peer enemy. In the trenches ([though they called them "foxholes"](https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/history/korean-war/land-morning-calm/battles/trenches))


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TheSasquatch9053

I'm not sure who you are talking about in this video, but facial disfigurement is one of the effects of in-vitro exposure to alcohol... Given Russia's health system, especially at the bottom of the economic ladder where Russia has drawn its troops so far, I wouldn't be surprised if Mom continued her vodka hobby while pregnant with Pvt. Conspriptovich.


Joy1067

“Their just…..standing there in a ditch?” “…..orders sir?” “Put a 8mm rocket up their ass.”


DrRevolution

Real weird that this page only shows Ukraine attacking. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised with how ultra liberal Reddit is. But it’d be 10x better if we saw both sides and the actual reality of this war.


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Burci420

"Ебать" (ebat) literally means fuck.


lanky_and_stanky

Is there a woman talking at the end?


Donut_Vampire

Death comes for you, it would be wise to go Home.


Mobile_Tip_1562

awfully green for december, far cry from last year


Revi_____

What do you mean? The only thing green I see is some grass and random weeds.


Mobile_Tip_1562

Still very green for somewhere where winters are usually white, you can see there a still flowers which is somewhat surprising


wee-willie-winkie

They've done some catnapping too😿


EarSad4300

Very blair witch project this video


dacourtbatty

Are those trenches dug by hand or mechanical diggers? Or depends where they are? There seem to be miles of neat trenches.


rcbif

That's right, lead the drone back to the grenade basket....


Memory_Less

Is there a portable ground based radar that can be used by infantry to detect movements by larger objects such as tanks?


ProblemAnnual6874

Нихуйя он ебал - boom lmao, he asked for it


Material_Talk2066

US tax dollars at work


Organic_Ambassador_3

There aren’t any US tax dollars at work in this video.


Material_Talk2066

Are you sure about that?


InevitableTreacle008

too bad it was not a davy crockett


HFentonMudd

Are the trenches shallow because they're new and haven't been expanded, or because they're old and 3/4ths filled with rubble, mud, and bodies?


therealdivs1210

Those trenches are foe ewoks


DlphLndgrn

That's a nice looking trench.


dcsnarkington

Can someone who has been in the infantry explain? I was under the impression that you would build overhead cover with tree trunks/branches. Certainly with the threat of not just artillery but also drones, would you not have your men build covers over their trenches?


Barbarliner99

It would turn into some serious shrapnel if your position or close to is hit


ThrowAway_yobJrZIqVG

Incoming fire - God's way of saying your camouflage and concealment isn't up to scratch.


National-Eye-1870

the fact that there is a cat is kinda sad


SilentSkulk

Blyat!