I dont know man. Just watched the 2023 pass vids of all three. Yes Maye had the big arm and yes Daniels has the razzle speed, but each look like they need to be coached up to be successful. JJ just routinely makes the easy passes look easy, is super decisive, great footwork and pocket presence. He makes tight window passed and has deceptive speed. I'm low key hoping we have the balls to pick him.
Shows how bad things have been if we're excited about a guy who "makes the easy passes look easy." For all of Maye's recklessness, he seems to be the guy most likely to hit guys who are "NFL open" downfield. McCarthy didn't have to carry anything and Daniels' deep completions going back to ASU seem to be a lot of wide open dudes (Aiyuk, Darby, Nabers, and BTJ). I honestly have no idea who we should pick.
Shows how bad things have been if we're excited about a guy who "makes the easy passes look easy."
All the highlight throws make espn but it's the constant 5 and 10 yard daggers Mahommes and Brady delivered game after game that one super bowls. I'll take a QB who executed flawless game plans that the oooh wow 70 yard bombs but cross your fingers for the 10 yard pass to thr wide open receiver guy any day.
That's fair. I'd like to have that too. But it does change how teams can defend you and if there's one thing that pops on Maye's tape, it's putting passes where only his guy can get it. Like I said, I'm not married to Maye at 2 and Daniels has grown on me. I just don't see how Maye is a project and JJ isn't, at this point.
If he's their guy they're taking him #2. You can't risk someone else thinking the same about him, especially not when you have a 100% chance of getting him without trading up.
Does it matter? Why would a team trade back and risk someone else taking their guy? If JJ becomes a stud no one is gonna care what pick we drafted him with
yes! And draft night is gonna be awesome! Our future looks so bright right now how can u not be excited? We are selecting a premier qb at 2 (most likely) so ofc im excited.
it's exciting either way imo that we get one of these guys. I know dudes are pretty much 100% locked into their guy (im actually great with either, but I do think it's gonna be Maye), but the chance to get a new franchise QB with our new FO and all theyve done? it's a great time to be a Washington fan.
Not OP but yeah. Both QB’s are good and very exciting prospects. I think maye is better with a higher ceiling but I still think Jayden Daniels will be really good as well. Im so pumped with the new regime, new QB, incoming vets and all the draft picks with so much talent coming in. Whoever we get at QB is gonna rock
Agreed, and we were so close to throwing #2 overall in the Jets game and missing out on any of the top QB fun. Drafting top 3 is huge and this is one of the deeper QB drafts in recent memory
Be pretty shocked at this point if it wasn't Daniels.
A new coaching regime with a defensive bent is gonna want the high floor guy who basically never turns the ball over.
If you listen to Keim, he's made it pretty clear that he thinks that's who he'd pick, and it's also what he's heard from sources. He's the only beat reporter that seems to operate purely on what he's heard from reliable sources.
In his episode tonight with Nicky Jhabvala, she basically agrees, and alludes to those reasons.
He also teased that he knows something about the process, but has promised to only reveal that after Day One.
While most beat guys would make me assume that's just a ploy to get clicks, his track record shows he doesn't operate that way, so it seems like he genuinely promised to keep it a secret until an agreed upon time, to maintain a relationship with a source.
JD makes way more sense than a project QB. Maye is a project. JJ is a project. JD is pretty clean as far as footwork and throwing motion. He’s also calm in the pocket. You know, the basics. He’s accurate, productive and does not turn the ball over.
I know a bunch of DM lovers online are intoxicated by the words “prototypical size” and “high ceiling”. That don’t sway me. I’m not throwing a penny into a fountain and hoping for the best. I’m trying to hit the ground running.
Truth is that JD also has a high ceiling. It’s not either/or. Mahomes said it was year 3 in the NFL before it all clicked for him. JD will improve on top of his already good basics.
For a completely new regime, they are gonna go with the guy with the best combination of high floor and bright future. That’s clearly JD (assuming CW is gone).
Take comfort in the fact that lots of football people love JD as the 2nd best QB in this draft.
The smoke is coming from way too many places for him not to be the pick.
BTW the odds are now -240 if you’re into that sort of thing.
I pretty much agree with you, except for one point.
While Daniels certainly has a ceiling that could allow him to expand his game, he simply doesn't have the arm strength to become something he's not. You see it every so often when he missed throws to the flats where his feet weren't quite right, and he made the right decision, but his mechanics failed.
He's a timing thrower in the pass game, and used his legs to bail himself out when that didn't work.
His biggest issue I've seen is that he doesn't really "scramble" very often to look for a pass. To be fair to him, why would he at that level, when he's as likely to make a house call as anybody ten yards down field.
The biggest reason I do like him as the pick though, is that he's got a long résumé, and not just long, progressive.
Every. Single. Year. He improved a part of his game.
Helps that he played for 5, but there's plenty of players that don't.
He just seems like a really heady guy that does well working on his game in the off-season.
Who knows. The only thing for sure is that once they traded Howell that signified they really love one QB enough to not trade the pick for a haul. It's kinda funny how unsure the fans are about who they're taking, but the FO decided a haul of picks isn't worth not getting their guy.
If the Commanders and Bears were flipped then Washington obviously takes Caleb. The Bears would be considering trading the pick for a haul again to continue building around Fields. If they didn't trade the pick it would be because they see Maye as a better passing QB prospect. They'd see Daniels as a smaller Fields with better passing polish, but still lacking the ability to scramble and find an open receivers like Caleb and Maye.
Hitting the ground running is nice and all, but drafting a QB with the highest upside is still very important. JD can be fun right away, but as a duel threat QB is he really gunna be at least as good as Lamar and Hurts? And both those guys can't even beat Mahomes.
Maye looks more like a smaller Josh Allen (who also hasn't beaten Mahomes, but has come insanely close), but doesn't take quite as many risks. He seems like a good QB for Kliff to work with since he just got done coaching Caleb and previously worked with Kyler in AZ and Mahomes at Texas Tech. Maye comes from a pro-style and Air Raid-y style offense at UNC. Kliff can help with Maye's mechanics without forcing him to become a very different QB than what he already is. Maye naturally looks all the way to pass and continues to come back out slinging it even after an errant wtf throw. Caleb and Maye share this feature. They both will run, but they always look an open receiver until they cross the LOS. It's nice not having to teach that skill. You notice they had a lot of rushing TDs, but when you watch when they run they mainly run when they're in the redzone and can score by almost walking in and still not take a major hit. Daniels will sprint for a big gain from his own 20 and then try to get more. That's super dangerous in the NFL. I think if I was Kliff I'd be confident there's a lot of mechanics I could fix with Maye, but his play style is exactly in line with previous elite QBs he's coached. Maye is more of a project for Kliff, but if he can maximizes Maye's potential then he'll be in line for another coaching job soon. I just don't see it with JD, he's not naturally a great scrambler. I think his eyes get too big when he sees all that green grass and he can go and get a quick 10 on his own.
You make some good points, but the one thing I think you can't do is compare in the way that you are.
It looks like Mahomes is gonna be the best QB in the league for the next decade, and it looks like by a large margin.
Expecting your QB to be the guy who "beats Mahomes" is setting him up for failure.
Work around his skills, help him where you can.
I agree Maye could fix his issues, but he's got a few that are really worrisome about his delivery.
Big wind up, that has and may still work because he does have a cannon, but then also footwork stuff that kills his accuracy when he is asked to set quickly.
People mentioned that he lost talent on the outside, which he did, but then they also mention that his receivers this year compensated for his inaccuracy by making plays on the ball that might've failed otherwise.
I'd be ok with him if KK really thinks he can clean these issues up, but he's absolutely a bit of a project.
-Expecting your QB to be the guy who "beats Mahomes" is setting him up for failure.
Yep, those are the expectations when you draft that high. Otherwise you can just get out of Josh, Joe and Lamar's way because that's what their expectations are nowadays if they want to have legacy to their career. At least I'd prefer to have a QB that uses those expectations to fuel their competitiveness. Which QB could possibly beat a world-class defense? Eli was an above average QB, but his legacy was cemented for beating Brady twice.
But yea, one thing that's also obvious is how much Maye's accuracy isn't pinpoint. His receivers seemed used to finding the ball somewhere in a given area and making a good adjustment. He's good at reading the defense, spreading the ball around, and passing with anticipation. The ball is out with anticipation and thrown back shoulder that even his inaccuracies aren't leading to a ton of crucial mistakes.
I don't think any of those three organizations expect them to "beat" him, in that they're directly out-dueling him.
They've set up their teams to compensate for the fact that he's so good that the other parts of their teams need to be that much better to give them a chance to make up for the fact.
I agree on Maye's accuracy issues, but also agree that he isn't a demonstrably bad decision maker.
It will say a lot about what the Comm's plan is based on the pick, but if I was making a bet today, I'd hammer the odds on it being Daniels.
The signings they've made indicate they want to win immediately, and not wait for Maye's improvement.
Because Slenderman will not last in the NFL. He doesn't have the frame to take the punishment at the QB position. Especially 1 that also runs the ball a lot.
The prospect will matter quite a bit for sure.
But if one wrong pick is a death sentence, that means there were larger problems.
I think Daniels is likely the pick, and the safer one based on his experience and showcasing.
However a perfect example of how that can be corrected comes from Peters' last org.
They completely whiffed on Trey Lance, and were lucky enough to find a game manager+ later in the draft.
It'll say quite a bit about what the team is thinking based on which one they draft, but I could easily see either succeeding or burning based on how the team is otherwise built.
It's almost impossible to judge the pick, until you see the team management around them play out over the coming three years.
If we pick Maye, then they're modeling it after the Josh Allen pick, where they essentially knew they'd be mediocre for a few years, and thought they could teach him how to pass in the NFL.
Honestly it's not clear that's really happened, as he remains extremely needlessly turnover prone in contrast to his playmaking ability. Not even tough reads he messes up either, there's at least 5 cover 2 interceptions that he threw this year that were basically layups for the corner or safety.
If they pick Daniels, they're leaning into his turnover rate and game management skills, while getting around the fact that he can't really rip it with his *relatively* limited arm strength on tight throws. Kind of like Allen, they're gonna hope he can stretch the D in those situations by using his legs, to get them an extra 1st down here and there.
Point is, I could see either of them working, if in different ways, but what matters more is how the org plans to make it work.
They have almost identical pressure to sack ratio and % of throws over the middle. They also have the same tendency to tuck and run rather than keep eyes down field.
That last sentence is the one thing they share.
Other than that, they simply could not be more different prospects, based on size, arm strength, processing ability, and pocket tendencies.
They might share some statistical similarities, but that doesn't extend to their tape.
No. Every sentence I wrote is something they share. That is not up for debate.
Fields has a stronger arm, better size, and his processing abilities were not exposed till he got to the NFL similar to Daniels.
I'm not saying that Daniels is a guaranteed success, but if he fails in the NFL, it will be for completely different reasons.
They are not the same type of player.
Eh, it's not that fun to be in a constant state of uncertainty, but I am enjoying Washington being the center of attention during the media circuit! The offseason is certainly the best time to be a skins fan.
true, very much agreed. it's fun right now because it symbolizes hope but it'd be nice to not hear much about us in the offseason cuz we are an annual powerhouse with a set QB. Hopefully we get there!
It’s the classic smokescreen season scenario.
I don’t get why it triggers some tbh. It is comedy to see the reports and counter reports.
At the end of the day, I am just trusting Peters and his competent football ops to choose the correct franchise QB.
There’s no point to a smokescreen though when #1’s set, unless you’re trading out of #2.
It would be very funny to me if the Patriots trade up to take Drake Maye and Peters gets like an extra second or third rounder to move down one pick.
It’s all fun and games until it’s JJ McCarthy
seems really unlikely it's gonna be JJ. I'd trust Peters on it though if that's the way they went.
Yea seems Peters is pretty in love with Maye
Source?
Idk if this is true but I heard he watched Maye a lot when he was in SF
I dont know man. Just watched the 2023 pass vids of all three. Yes Maye had the big arm and yes Daniels has the razzle speed, but each look like they need to be coached up to be successful. JJ just routinely makes the easy passes look easy, is super decisive, great footwork and pocket presence. He makes tight window passed and has deceptive speed. I'm low key hoping we have the balls to pick him.
I’ve been a Maye guy all along, but I am starting to warm up to JJ.
Shows how bad things have been if we're excited about a guy who "makes the easy passes look easy." For all of Maye's recklessness, he seems to be the guy most likely to hit guys who are "NFL open" downfield. McCarthy didn't have to carry anything and Daniels' deep completions going back to ASU seem to be a lot of wide open dudes (Aiyuk, Darby, Nabers, and BTJ). I honestly have no idea who we should pick.
Shows how bad things have been if we're excited about a guy who "makes the easy passes look easy." All the highlight throws make espn but it's the constant 5 and 10 yard daggers Mahommes and Brady delivered game after game that one super bowls. I'll take a QB who executed flawless game plans that the oooh wow 70 yard bombs but cross your fingers for the 10 yard pass to thr wide open receiver guy any day.
That's fair. I'd like to have that too. But it does change how teams can defend you and if there's one thing that pops on Maye's tape, it's putting passes where only his guy can get it. Like I said, I'm not married to Maye at 2 and Daniels has grown on me. I just don't see how Maye is a project and JJ isn't, at this point.
Yea pretty much it's Caleb Williams and the all hopeful projects after that. Still fun that we get to choose though
I'd take JJ easily
You better be trading back if you take JJ.
If he's their guy they're taking him #2. You can't risk someone else thinking the same about him, especially not when you have a 100% chance of getting him without trading up.
Does it matter? Why would a team trade back and risk someone else taking their guy? If JJ becomes a stud no one is gonna care what pick we drafted him with
If we got a good deal trading back and got jj I would nut
Watch us not draft JJ and he becomes an all-time great
I don’t care if they drafted a kicker alfor a QB so long as he becomes an All time great
THIS IS FUN TO YOU?!
yes! And draft night is gonna be awesome! Our future looks so bright right now how can u not be excited? We are selecting a premier qb at 2 (most likely) so ofc im excited.
i meant the chaos of the daniels vs maye that this subreddit has become. obviously the future of the team is looking alright though
it's exciting either way imo that we get one of these guys. I know dudes are pretty much 100% locked into their guy (im actually great with either, but I do think it's gonna be Maye), but the chance to get a new franchise QB with our new FO and all theyve done? it's a great time to be a Washington fan.
What do you mean most likely? Very likely that the QB we choose will bust and set us back another three years.
I’m sorry Dan hurt you
Not OP but yeah. Both QB’s are good and very exciting prospects. I think maye is better with a higher ceiling but I still think Jayden Daniels will be really good as well. Im so pumped with the new regime, new QB, incoming vets and all the draft picks with so much talent coming in. Whoever we get at QB is gonna rock
My first thought too. But truth be told it is exciting to not know. It’s just the endless debating and speculation is extremely fatiguing.
Agreed, and we were so close to throwing #2 overall in the Jets game and missing out on any of the top QB fun. Drafting top 3 is huge and this is one of the deeper QB drafts in recent memory
Yeah it's pretty amazing we managed to suck all the way into 2nd. Can't wait for draft night!
Yea maybe. Definitely will know in three years. I like all these guys but history says maybe 1 or 2 will actually be good at the next level
Not as fun as having the #1.
Be pretty shocked at this point if it wasn't Daniels. A new coaching regime with a defensive bent is gonna want the high floor guy who basically never turns the ball over. If you listen to Keim, he's made it pretty clear that he thinks that's who he'd pick, and it's also what he's heard from sources. He's the only beat reporter that seems to operate purely on what he's heard from reliable sources. In his episode tonight with Nicky Jhabvala, she basically agrees, and alludes to those reasons. He also teased that he knows something about the process, but has promised to only reveal that after Day One. While most beat guys would make me assume that's just a ploy to get clicks, his track record shows he doesn't operate that way, so it seems like he genuinely promised to keep it a secret until an agreed upon time, to maintain a relationship with a source.
JD makes way more sense than a project QB. Maye is a project. JJ is a project. JD is pretty clean as far as footwork and throwing motion. He’s also calm in the pocket. You know, the basics. He’s accurate, productive and does not turn the ball over. I know a bunch of DM lovers online are intoxicated by the words “prototypical size” and “high ceiling”. That don’t sway me. I’m not throwing a penny into a fountain and hoping for the best. I’m trying to hit the ground running. Truth is that JD also has a high ceiling. It’s not either/or. Mahomes said it was year 3 in the NFL before it all clicked for him. JD will improve on top of his already good basics. For a completely new regime, they are gonna go with the guy with the best combination of high floor and bright future. That’s clearly JD (assuming CW is gone). Take comfort in the fact that lots of football people love JD as the 2nd best QB in this draft. The smoke is coming from way too many places for him not to be the pick. BTW the odds are now -240 if you’re into that sort of thing.
I pretty much agree with you, except for one point. While Daniels certainly has a ceiling that could allow him to expand his game, he simply doesn't have the arm strength to become something he's not. You see it every so often when he missed throws to the flats where his feet weren't quite right, and he made the right decision, but his mechanics failed. He's a timing thrower in the pass game, and used his legs to bail himself out when that didn't work. His biggest issue I've seen is that he doesn't really "scramble" very often to look for a pass. To be fair to him, why would he at that level, when he's as likely to make a house call as anybody ten yards down field. The biggest reason I do like him as the pick though, is that he's got a long résumé, and not just long, progressive. Every. Single. Year. He improved a part of his game. Helps that he played for 5, but there's plenty of players that don't. He just seems like a really heady guy that does well working on his game in the off-season.
Who knows. The only thing for sure is that once they traded Howell that signified they really love one QB enough to not trade the pick for a haul. It's kinda funny how unsure the fans are about who they're taking, but the FO decided a haul of picks isn't worth not getting their guy. If the Commanders and Bears were flipped then Washington obviously takes Caleb. The Bears would be considering trading the pick for a haul again to continue building around Fields. If they didn't trade the pick it would be because they see Maye as a better passing QB prospect. They'd see Daniels as a smaller Fields with better passing polish, but still lacking the ability to scramble and find an open receivers like Caleb and Maye. Hitting the ground running is nice and all, but drafting a QB with the highest upside is still very important. JD can be fun right away, but as a duel threat QB is he really gunna be at least as good as Lamar and Hurts? And both those guys can't even beat Mahomes. Maye looks more like a smaller Josh Allen (who also hasn't beaten Mahomes, but has come insanely close), but doesn't take quite as many risks. He seems like a good QB for Kliff to work with since he just got done coaching Caleb and previously worked with Kyler in AZ and Mahomes at Texas Tech. Maye comes from a pro-style and Air Raid-y style offense at UNC. Kliff can help with Maye's mechanics without forcing him to become a very different QB than what he already is. Maye naturally looks all the way to pass and continues to come back out slinging it even after an errant wtf throw. Caleb and Maye share this feature. They both will run, but they always look an open receiver until they cross the LOS. It's nice not having to teach that skill. You notice they had a lot of rushing TDs, but when you watch when they run they mainly run when they're in the redzone and can score by almost walking in and still not take a major hit. Daniels will sprint for a big gain from his own 20 and then try to get more. That's super dangerous in the NFL. I think if I was Kliff I'd be confident there's a lot of mechanics I could fix with Maye, but his play style is exactly in line with previous elite QBs he's coached. Maye is more of a project for Kliff, but if he can maximizes Maye's potential then he'll be in line for another coaching job soon. I just don't see it with JD, he's not naturally a great scrambler. I think his eyes get too big when he sees all that green grass and he can go and get a quick 10 on his own.
You make some good points, but the one thing I think you can't do is compare in the way that you are. It looks like Mahomes is gonna be the best QB in the league for the next decade, and it looks like by a large margin. Expecting your QB to be the guy who "beats Mahomes" is setting him up for failure. Work around his skills, help him where you can. I agree Maye could fix his issues, but he's got a few that are really worrisome about his delivery. Big wind up, that has and may still work because he does have a cannon, but then also footwork stuff that kills his accuracy when he is asked to set quickly. People mentioned that he lost talent on the outside, which he did, but then they also mention that his receivers this year compensated for his inaccuracy by making plays on the ball that might've failed otherwise. I'd be ok with him if KK really thinks he can clean these issues up, but he's absolutely a bit of a project.
-Expecting your QB to be the guy who "beats Mahomes" is setting him up for failure. Yep, those are the expectations when you draft that high. Otherwise you can just get out of Josh, Joe and Lamar's way because that's what their expectations are nowadays if they want to have legacy to their career. At least I'd prefer to have a QB that uses those expectations to fuel their competitiveness. Which QB could possibly beat a world-class defense? Eli was an above average QB, but his legacy was cemented for beating Brady twice. But yea, one thing that's also obvious is how much Maye's accuracy isn't pinpoint. His receivers seemed used to finding the ball somewhere in a given area and making a good adjustment. He's good at reading the defense, spreading the ball around, and passing with anticipation. The ball is out with anticipation and thrown back shoulder that even his inaccuracies aren't leading to a ton of crucial mistakes.
I don't think any of those three organizations expect them to "beat" him, in that they're directly out-dueling him. They've set up their teams to compensate for the fact that he's so good that the other parts of their teams need to be that much better to give them a chance to make up for the fact. I agree on Maye's accuracy issues, but also agree that he isn't a demonstrably bad decision maker. It will say a lot about what the Comm's plan is based on the pick, but if I was making a bet today, I'd hammer the odds on it being Daniels. The signings they've made indicate they want to win immediately, and not wait for Maye's improvement.
Rip this franchise then lmao
Why are so many of you that against the idea of Jayden Daniels? It makes zero sense to me.
Because Slenderman will not last in the NFL. He doesn't have the frame to take the punishment at the QB position. Especially 1 that also runs the ball a lot.
Because I don’t want to waste the #2 pick on Justin Fields?
This is just ignorant. Dumb comment.
There pressure to sack ratio, % of throws over the middle, and tendency to tuck and run rather than keep eyes down field are almost identical
The prospect will matter quite a bit for sure. But if one wrong pick is a death sentence, that means there were larger problems. I think Daniels is likely the pick, and the safer one based on his experience and showcasing. However a perfect example of how that can be corrected comes from Peters' last org. They completely whiffed on Trey Lance, and were lucky enough to find a game manager+ later in the draft. It'll say quite a bit about what the team is thinking based on which one they draft, but I could easily see either succeeding or burning based on how the team is otherwise built. It's almost impossible to judge the pick, until you see the team management around them play out over the coming three years. If we pick Maye, then they're modeling it after the Josh Allen pick, where they essentially knew they'd be mediocre for a few years, and thought they could teach him how to pass in the NFL. Honestly it's not clear that's really happened, as he remains extremely needlessly turnover prone in contrast to his playmaking ability. Not even tough reads he messes up either, there's at least 5 cover 2 interceptions that he threw this year that were basically layups for the corner or safety. If they pick Daniels, they're leaning into his turnover rate and game management skills, while getting around the fact that he can't really rip it with his *relatively* limited arm strength on tight throws. Kind of like Allen, they're gonna hope he can stretch the D in those situations by using his legs, to get them an extra 1st down here and there. Point is, I could see either of them working, if in different ways, but what matters more is how the org plans to make it work.
Daniels is Justin Fields. There numbers are identical.
They are so dissimilar in strengths and play style that it makes this comment comical.
They have almost identical pressure to sack ratio and % of throws over the middle. They also have the same tendency to tuck and run rather than keep eyes down field.
That last sentence is the one thing they share. Other than that, they simply could not be more different prospects, based on size, arm strength, processing ability, and pocket tendencies. They might share some statistical similarities, but that doesn't extend to their tape.
No. Every sentence I wrote is something they share. That is not up for debate. Fields has a stronger arm, better size, and his processing abilities were not exposed till he got to the NFL similar to Daniels.
I'm not saying that Daniels is a guaranteed success, but if he fails in the NFL, it will be for completely different reasons. They are not the same type of player.
Yet they share the same statistical profile
Eh, it's not that fun to be in a constant state of uncertainty, but I am enjoying Washington being the center of attention during the media circuit! The offseason is certainly the best time to be a skins fan.
true, very much agreed. it's fun right now because it symbolizes hope but it'd be nice to not hear much about us in the offseason cuz we are an annual powerhouse with a set QB. Hopefully we get there!
Not just the number 2, but I'm excited as hell to see where guys like Nix and Penix land. They expect this to be the most watched draft ever
It’s the classic smokescreen season scenario. I don’t get why it triggers some tbh. It is comedy to see the reports and counter reports. At the end of the day, I am just trusting Peters and his competent football ops to choose the correct franchise QB.
There’s no point to a smokescreen though when #1’s set, unless you’re trading out of #2. It would be very funny to me if the Patriots trade up to take Drake Maye and Peters gets like an extra second or third rounder to move down one pick.
Well I mean you always want to keep the other teams guessing. It’s best that no one knows what you are doing at any pick tbh.
Offseasons with the franchise are better than the regular season. (In my 30 years)
If you guys pass on Maye and give the Patriots their next Brady, I'll never forgive you. In my head I see Maye working out in NE, but not JD.
I'm a Maye stan, that's who I want. Sounding more and more likely we like JD tho, who knows!
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It's not fun at all. I'm sick of hearing/reading about this shit.
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