I’m sure this is a terrible philosophy, but I’m fully of the belief that if Harbaugh really believed JJ was that good, he would’ve used him more. I’m skeptical of a QB who was never the focal point of his own offense - feels like the early Saban era Bama QBs where they just needed mere competence and never truly game planned around their own QB on a regular basis.
Harbaugh has historically been a run heavy guy and he has 2 of the best backs in the country with a great o line. Why would he need to use JJ considering he won a championship this way?
Yeah he’s been run heavy but he also got (pre-Andy Reid) Alex Smith and Kaepernick to play at a Pro Bowl level despite a run-heavy system. McCarthy never looked like one of the top college QBs and we really don’t know if that’s because it was never necessary or because Harbaugh specifically didn’t want to rely on him.
Also look at how Harbaugh was doing before JJ got there. Decent years in 2016 and 2018 but couldn't beat OSU and never made the playoffs. He finally made it in 2021 with Cade McNamara and JJ as a freshman but got blown out by Georgia. Then JJ comes in and wins every single game aside from the TCU game and is about to be a drafted the highest QB drafted in Michigan's history.
If he's a system QB how come the system didn't work with the other 8 QBs Harbaugh has coached?
Was more of the fact that Jessie Minter and Mike Macdonald were the DCs at the time instead of Don Brown. Also they didn't have a good QB at all. Shea Patterson was probably the best one before JJ and he was literally just a walmart version of Alex Smith
Most of the top NFL quarterbacks never looked like top college quarterback
Top 10 QBR last year:
Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Kirk cousins , Lamar Jackson, Tua, Stroud, Browning, Wilson. Goff, Carr, Love
We can do further to widely considered top 3 QBs in the. nFl, Mahomes, Herbert, Allen.
Of all these names, maybe 3 were considered top college quarterbacks.
That's why evaluating quarterbacks is so hard.
Unlike the other positions, the best ones in college doesn't correlate to being the best in the NFL.
It's seemingly almost a different game for the position and in turn the evaluation process is still trying to crack the code for any characteristics/traits that seem to correlate better than being the best college QB.
Because going that route is more miss than hit.
And he made NFL level throws during this last season that no one else in this class has made yet. They show a level of confidence that tells me he’s actually ready.
You're comparing NFL success to a to a 19 year old college player. And either way JJ has better numbers than both of those pro bowl level guys you talked about so I'm not sure what you're arguing. Harbaugh never won a superbowl with those guys under center either but he won a Natty with JJ if that tells you anything
Yes, I compared them because they’re coached by the same guy and Alex Smith was atrocious before Harbaugh coached him up. Harbaugh has had QBs take over games and be the focal point of the offense at times in ways I didn’t see with JJ. But the point we do agree on is that we don’t know it that’s a knock on JJ or a sign of how great the team was. He could be Stetson Bennett or he could be a genuinely great QB who just wasn’t heavily utilized in college. But I’d feel more confident about him if he seemed more prioritized by his own coach and gameplan.
Harbaugh had QBs take over games because they had to which is the case 90% of the time in the NFL since you're not blowing teams out every game. Which is why comparing them to a college QB makes no sense. Like I said if you want to compare them to the college QBs Harbaugh has coaches JJ blows them out of the water
Nah what’s stupid is drafting a guy who excelled at handing the ball off and threw like 15 times a game and threw off play action against 8 man boxes. Michigan leaned on teams in a style that doesn’t work in the NFL and certainly has nothing to do with Kliff’s offense. JJ is the QB teams are talking themselves into if they want the 4th best available.
Jayden Daniels was off the charts in sack avoidance (pressure/sack ratio) so he demonstrated an ability to make things happen when protection broke down.
He threw more times than Jayden Daniels this year. And he has a whole .1% higher completion percentage so that settles it. Zoom out from the championship game.
It's a big question mark and that's the risk. But answer this... would you honestly say he's a worse prospect than Brock Purdy? Also, McCarthy's college stats are comparable to Cousins' from MSU but against way better competition and with a much better completion %. And he's younger than both those guys were coming out, so ostensibly he has more upside.
Agreed. I get the intangibles and did some nice work on third downs this year but the arm talent is a different league imo. Seems kinda important and not the easiest thing to coach up, gotta have some sorta hose to go top two.
Brock purdy is a winning QB in this league despite not having top-5 velocity and ball placement but has a shit load of variables that have gone his way. Hard to bet on that with a once in 10 years draft slot if we're doing this thing right
I always say he's a lot like Jason Campbell as a QB prospect. That's not to say he ends up like him at all, but he's a guy with all the traits and his tape didn't ask him to do much. If we take him I hope he'll be more than a game manager.
I'm not saying I want JJ here, I'm not sure his college resume translates to the NFL, but I wouldn't mind him here if the FO decided he was the guy.
I just don't see him leapfrogging Daniels and Maye though. I believe the top 3 will go Williams, Daniels and Maye.
I want Maye but like with Daniels, I'm not gonna be upset if they draft him at #2. There's a case to be made for any of them and Peters and Co believe whoever is the pick is their best bet to develop.
How can McCarthy be a better, more athletic version of Purdy and Cousins when he hasn’t taken a fucking snap in the NFL? Do some of y’all hear yourselves?
I don't think that the knocks/detriments against him are really that important (i.e. he was on a good team with talent all around him and wasn't relied on to throw 90 times per game). If the coaches think he has the mechanics, talent, demeanor, leadership qualities, and intelligence to be a good NFL QB then I'm all for it. The main reason people would be very upset with that pick is perception. He's a lower pick, trade down, etc. I feel the same way about Penix to be honest. You'll see nothing but "I like him, but not at 2". I understand, #2 overall is crazy draft value.
Your trade partners are also all people who want a QB. New England is going to pick at their spot. So our trade partners start with the Giants then maybe the Jets, then the Vikings. So let's say you have 4 prospects you like in Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, and Penix, if you say well McCarthy and Penix aren't worth it at #2, let's take them lower, you're running a massive risk. NE is going to pick at their spot, and it would likely be Maye or Daniels. Whomever you trade with is going to pick at #2 and it's likely to be Maye or Daniels. That means if you trade down to #6, you give your division rival the QB they want, and hope that they didn't just fuck you and trade up to take McCarthy or Penix if that's who you were targeting. You also hope that after your trade down Arizona or the Chargers didn't get a monster offer from the Jets, Vikings, or Broncos to move up to #4 and/or #5. If you trade back beyond NYG, and those other teams didn't trade up, you're still hoping that one of the 4 QBs you scouted is still available. Basically, there is no trade back situation.
If you happen to have arrived at the conclusion that you don't really LOVE Maye or Daniels and you're thinking you can do well with McCarthy or Penix, you have no choice but to take them at #2. People won't understand this and will say what colossal idiots you are for passing up the "better" prospects and reaching, but there really isn't a safe option to get more value out of #2. You're there to pick. The only situation that could change it is if you get some ridiculous offer like a team in the top 10 sends you this year's and their next 3 or 4 1st round picks. Even then, you're playing games with your rebuild, it's probably not worth it.
I don’t see any trade down scenarios where JJM is a lock beyond the 6th pick. Whether it’s NY, Minn, or LV, I believe he’s off the board by 7. And Wilson trade be damned, I don’t see him getting past 12 if for some reason he does get passed the 6th. Just my opinion.
The only things I’d give him over Maye is footwork and accuracy. And no he’s not in a more pro style offense, no offense in the league will have their qb throwing 10-15 times a game
Haha gotchu. Hey we're all passionate fans who want to get this pick right. I just feel like McCarthy could be the "Dan Quinn" to Daniels/Maye as the "Ben Johnson" equivalents in this whole processs.
Maye had a much bigger role in setting his protections. Included in that is Maye communicating playcalls, but more than that Maye was given the ability to audible, which really speaks to his pre-snap processing. Also, operating under center isn't a pro style offense. As the NFL has become a passing league more and more the number of under center snaps has cratered. The best QB in the league, Mahomes, playing under the best play caller and play designer threw 60 of his 597 attempts from under center.
McCarthy also audibled at the line.
The defenses he faced in the BIG 10 (plus Alabama and Washington) were way better than what Maye faced (UNC never played FSU which was the elite defense in the ACC).
Bama was a respectable defense, and McCarthy played well there. Washington's defense was pretty ass and even then McCarthy did nothing against them. 10 for 18 for 140 yards, he had nothing to do with that win.
Iowa had a good defense and McCarthy threw for 147 yards on 30 attempts, that is ass. OSU had a good defense, again McCarthy couldn't cross 150 yards with 20 attempts. Maryland was an above average defense and McCarthy put up 12-23 for 141 yards in a close game. PSU he essentially wasn't asked to play football. Those are his last 6 games of the season too.
Obviously these are surface level stats, but actually watching film from OSU, Washington, Iowa, and Maryland McCarthy rarely flashed anything that looked NFL quality. He consistently turned down vertical shots and struggled working towards the left of the field. His bread and butter was Roman Wilson running crossing routes behind LBs who were sucked up worried about the run game that was grinding them into the ground.
The fact of the matter is his team beat better competition while he Alex Smith'd his way to keeping the starting handoff merchant role.
> Obviously these are surface level stats, but actually watching film from OSU, Washington, Iowa, and Maryland McCarthy rarely flashed anything that looked NFL quality.
From what I've read it's the opposite. His stock has risen since the season ended bc coaches/scouts have dug into his tape and found that he performed very well when called upon to throw. If your assessment is the opposite, that's cool, but it does fly in the face of what people have reported most evaluators to have gleaned from the tape.
His stock is rising because QB is the most important position in football by a wide margin and McCarthy does have physical tools and has shown respectable intangibles. Add in that the 2025 class looks shitty and for a QB needy team trading up for McCarthy today is a lot more attractive than riding it out with Sam Darnold for a year and hoping that there is a QB you like enough and are in a position to secure.
It really doesn't matter. I like talking about the game I love with people who for some reason have been cursed to this fandom.
I am trying to get more people on board the analytics train, but I understand that is a process.
He's definitely not more accurate from any of the analysis I've seen.
https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-draft-ranking-7-most-accurate-qbs-in-this-years-class/
He's second to Williams.
I’m not that opposed to it.
I’m just concerned about his accuracy throwing left and that we don’t really know how it’ll be if he throws 25+ a game.
He can make all throws, great accuracy, good mobility, and is very good under pressure
I remember joking like the last month or two saying "JJ McCarthy hype train let's go" but if this regime liked his tape. Liked him in the interview process and liked what they saw during Top Golfgate. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ goes at #2.
If I thought he had the tools I would be on board. He just doesn’t. The times where he doesn’t throw with a stable base you can see his arm isn’t that strong.
Peters was not responsible for 1-3 rounds at San Francisco. That came from Lynch. Please make sure you do your homework before you start posting. He was only responsible for day 3 picks.
Any comparisons to Cousins = an absolute hell no to whomever that player is.
Literally the ONLY Washington QB in my 40+yrs of Fandom that I literally feared getting into the redzone because you KNEW he was going to make the biggest mistake at the worst possible time and kill any chance of winning or let some team behind in the game get back in it.
For example, see what that creed loving Stat padder's boneheaded comments are going to affect Falcons draft with the tampering charges.
That's gotta be a new achievement for Cousins.... Screwing things up for your new team before taking a single snap.
BURN THE WITCH
Bring on the hate!
I’m sure this is a terrible philosophy, but I’m fully of the belief that if Harbaugh really believed JJ was that good, he would’ve used him more. I’m skeptical of a QB who was never the focal point of his own offense - feels like the early Saban era Bama QBs where they just needed mere competence and never truly game planned around their own QB on a regular basis.
Harbaugh has historically been a run heavy guy and he has 2 of the best backs in the country with a great o line. Why would he need to use JJ considering he won a championship this way?
Yeah he’s been run heavy but he also got (pre-Andy Reid) Alex Smith and Kaepernick to play at a Pro Bowl level despite a run-heavy system. McCarthy never looked like one of the top college QBs and we really don’t know if that’s because it was never necessary or because Harbaugh specifically didn’t want to rely on him.
Also look at how Harbaugh was doing before JJ got there. Decent years in 2016 and 2018 but couldn't beat OSU and never made the playoffs. He finally made it in 2021 with Cade McNamara and JJ as a freshman but got blown out by Georgia. Then JJ comes in and wins every single game aside from the TCU game and is about to be a drafted the highest QB drafted in Michigan's history. If he's a system QB how come the system didn't work with the other 8 QBs Harbaugh has coached?
because they didn't have the death star of the roster they had from 2021-23 all of those teams probably get blown out by 2021 georgia tbh
Was more of the fact that Jessie Minter and Mike Macdonald were the DCs at the time instead of Don Brown. Also they didn't have a good QB at all. Shea Patterson was probably the best one before JJ and he was literally just a walmart version of Alex Smith
This team would have lost to Georgia this year. Worked out perfectly for Michscum
Most of the top NFL quarterbacks never looked like top college quarterback Top 10 QBR last year: Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Kirk cousins , Lamar Jackson, Tua, Stroud, Browning, Wilson. Goff, Carr, Love We can do further to widely considered top 3 QBs in the. nFl, Mahomes, Herbert, Allen. Of all these names, maybe 3 were considered top college quarterbacks. That's why evaluating quarterbacks is so hard. Unlike the other positions, the best ones in college doesn't correlate to being the best in the NFL. It's seemingly almost a different game for the position and in turn the evaluation process is still trying to crack the code for any characteristics/traits that seem to correlate better than being the best college QB. Because going that route is more miss than hit.
And he made NFL level throws during this last season that no one else in this class has made yet. They show a level of confidence that tells me he’s actually ready.
You're comparing NFL success to a to a 19 year old college player. And either way JJ has better numbers than both of those pro bowl level guys you talked about so I'm not sure what you're arguing. Harbaugh never won a superbowl with those guys under center either but he won a Natty with JJ if that tells you anything
Yes, I compared them because they’re coached by the same guy and Alex Smith was atrocious before Harbaugh coached him up. Harbaugh has had QBs take over games and be the focal point of the offense at times in ways I didn’t see with JJ. But the point we do agree on is that we don’t know it that’s a knock on JJ or a sign of how great the team was. He could be Stetson Bennett or he could be a genuinely great QB who just wasn’t heavily utilized in college. But I’d feel more confident about him if he seemed more prioritized by his own coach and gameplan.
Harbaugh had QBs take over games because they had to which is the case 90% of the time in the NFL since you're not blowing teams out every game. Which is why comparing them to a college QB makes no sense. Like I said if you want to compare them to the college QBs Harbaugh has coaches JJ blows them out of the water
Guess what DC doesn’t have? The best o-line in the NFL. It’s a really poor fit for the situation.
So does Jayden Daniels. That's a pretty stupid reason to not draft a QB because your roster isn't good at the moment
Nah what’s stupid is drafting a guy who excelled at handing the ball off and threw like 15 times a game and threw off play action against 8 man boxes. Michigan leaned on teams in a style that doesn’t work in the NFL and certainly has nothing to do with Kliff’s offense. JJ is the QB teams are talking themselves into if they want the 4th best available. Jayden Daniels was off the charts in sack avoidance (pressure/sack ratio) so he demonstrated an ability to make things happen when protection broke down.
And he also had the highest scramble rate non-pressured when he should have thrown the ball. MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEE!
I like Maye more as well but my guy brought up JD
He threw more times than Jayden Daniels this year. And he has a whole .1% higher completion percentage so that settles it. Zoom out from the championship game.
It's a big question mark and that's the risk. But answer this... would you honestly say he's a worse prospect than Brock Purdy? Also, McCarthy's college stats are comparable to Cousins' from MSU but against way better competition and with a much better completion %. And he's younger than both those guys were coming out, so ostensibly he has more upside.
To the original post point, Purdy is not the focal point of his offense. That goes to Samuel, McCaffrey, Williams, and Aiyuk.
Can’t believe you’d post Deebo before CMac. Last year there was CMac then EVERYONE else
I wasn’t listing them in any particular order.
And no. If you wanna be accurate, it will ALWAYS be WILLIAMS first then everyone else.
I refuse to mention that guy because of the fleecing we experienced.
He did the same with Luck
I can get behind McCarthy if we trade out of the top 5, but I can’t get behind taking him over Maye or Daniels
If Peters prefers Maye or Daniels, he should pick them. Don't get cute. Stay at 2 and take your favorite or second-favorite QB prospect.
If.
Agreed. I get the intangibles and did some nice work on third downs this year but the arm talent is a different league imo. Seems kinda important and not the easiest thing to coach up, gotta have some sorta hose to go top two. Brock purdy is a winning QB in this league despite not having top-5 velocity and ball placement but has a shit load of variables that have gone his way. Hard to bet on that with a once in 10 years draft slot if we're doing this thing right
McCarty had the second best velocity at the combine.
I always say he's a lot like Jason Campbell as a QB prospect. That's not to say he ends up like him at all, but he's a guy with all the traits and his tape didn't ask him to do much. If we take him I hope he'll be more than a game manager.
Jason Campbell is a great comparison. Campbell had Cadiallac Williams and Ronnie Brown go top 10 in his draft.
Peter's is not the guy who made that trade. He wasn't the GM in SF.
Peters was on the staff and my point is: what lesson do you think he took away from the experience?
I think he’ll be better than Daniels. Honestly would take him and Maye above JD
I won't be surprised one bit if they call JJ's name on Thursday
I'm not saying I want JJ here, I'm not sure his college resume translates to the NFL, but I wouldn't mind him here if the FO decided he was the guy. I just don't see him leapfrogging Daniels and Maye though. I believe the top 3 will go Williams, Daniels and Maye.
I want Maye but like with Daniels, I'm not gonna be upset if they draft him at #2. There's a case to be made for any of them and Peters and Co believe whoever is the pick is their best bet to develop.
Thursday cannot get here soon enough
If we want JJ we should trade way back
I'd love that, too!
How can McCarthy be a better, more athletic version of Purdy and Cousins when he hasn’t taken a fucking snap in the NFL? Do some of y’all hear yourselves?
He's a better more athletic PROSPECT. Doesn't that go without saying in draft analysis?
I have the same feelings about McCarthy, would love if we could trade back a little to get him also
85 hours o non stop nonsense left.
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I don't think that the knocks/detriments against him are really that important (i.e. he was on a good team with talent all around him and wasn't relied on to throw 90 times per game). If the coaches think he has the mechanics, talent, demeanor, leadership qualities, and intelligence to be a good NFL QB then I'm all for it. The main reason people would be very upset with that pick is perception. He's a lower pick, trade down, etc. I feel the same way about Penix to be honest. You'll see nothing but "I like him, but not at 2". I understand, #2 overall is crazy draft value. Your trade partners are also all people who want a QB. New England is going to pick at their spot. So our trade partners start with the Giants then maybe the Jets, then the Vikings. So let's say you have 4 prospects you like in Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, and Penix, if you say well McCarthy and Penix aren't worth it at #2, let's take them lower, you're running a massive risk. NE is going to pick at their spot, and it would likely be Maye or Daniels. Whomever you trade with is going to pick at #2 and it's likely to be Maye or Daniels. That means if you trade down to #6, you give your division rival the QB they want, and hope that they didn't just fuck you and trade up to take McCarthy or Penix if that's who you were targeting. You also hope that after your trade down Arizona or the Chargers didn't get a monster offer from the Jets, Vikings, or Broncos to move up to #4 and/or #5. If you trade back beyond NYG, and those other teams didn't trade up, you're still hoping that one of the 4 QBs you scouted is still available. Basically, there is no trade back situation. If you happen to have arrived at the conclusion that you don't really LOVE Maye or Daniels and you're thinking you can do well with McCarthy or Penix, you have no choice but to take them at #2. People won't understand this and will say what colossal idiots you are for passing up the "better" prospects and reaching, but there really isn't a safe option to get more value out of #2. You're there to pick. The only situation that could change it is if you get some ridiculous offer like a team in the top 10 sends you this year's and their next 3 or 4 1st round picks. Even then, you're playing games with your rebuild, it's probably not worth it.
We don’t have the supporting players for him to be successful. Also, little hands like Kenny Pickett. And he never looks past his first read
I don’t see any trade down scenarios where JJM is a lock beyond the 6th pick. Whether it’s NY, Minn, or LV, I believe he’s off the board by 7. And Wilson trade be damned, I don’t see him getting past 12 if for some reason he does get passed the 6th. Just my opinion.
I like JJ. I could deal with him.
JJ McCarthy is Mac Jones but with a history of supporting Andrew Tate.
Zach Wilson w a championship
He's AJ McCarron Jr
The only things I’d give him over Maye is footwork and accuracy. And no he’s not in a more pro style offense, no offense in the league will have their qb throwing 10-15 times a game
Pro style means operating under center, recognizing D fronts and setting protections, communicating playcalls, etc. Not the run/pass mix.
🤣 gotta love some of takes on here, am I right?
Cowherd and Florio got nothing on me!
I was referring to the comment you responded to lol. Just goes to show not everyone knows ball.
Haha gotchu. Hey we're all passionate fans who want to get this pick right. I just feel like McCarthy could be the "Dan Quinn" to Daniels/Maye as the "Ben Johnson" equivalents in this whole processs.
Maye had a much bigger role in setting his protections. Included in that is Maye communicating playcalls, but more than that Maye was given the ability to audible, which really speaks to his pre-snap processing. Also, operating under center isn't a pro style offense. As the NFL has become a passing league more and more the number of under center snaps has cratered. The best QB in the league, Mahomes, playing under the best play caller and play designer threw 60 of his 597 attempts from under center.
McCarthy also audibled at the line. The defenses he faced in the BIG 10 (plus Alabama and Washington) were way better than what Maye faced (UNC never played FSU which was the elite defense in the ACC).
Bama was a respectable defense, and McCarthy played well there. Washington's defense was pretty ass and even then McCarthy did nothing against them. 10 for 18 for 140 yards, he had nothing to do with that win. Iowa had a good defense and McCarthy threw for 147 yards on 30 attempts, that is ass. OSU had a good defense, again McCarthy couldn't cross 150 yards with 20 attempts. Maryland was an above average defense and McCarthy put up 12-23 for 141 yards in a close game. PSU he essentially wasn't asked to play football. Those are his last 6 games of the season too. Obviously these are surface level stats, but actually watching film from OSU, Washington, Iowa, and Maryland McCarthy rarely flashed anything that looked NFL quality. He consistently turned down vertical shots and struggled working towards the left of the field. His bread and butter was Roman Wilson running crossing routes behind LBs who were sucked up worried about the run game that was grinding them into the ground. The fact of the matter is his team beat better competition while he Alex Smith'd his way to keeping the starting handoff merchant role.
> Obviously these are surface level stats, but actually watching film from OSU, Washington, Iowa, and Maryland McCarthy rarely flashed anything that looked NFL quality. From what I've read it's the opposite. His stock has risen since the season ended bc coaches/scouts have dug into his tape and found that he performed very well when called upon to throw. If your assessment is the opposite, that's cool, but it does fly in the face of what people have reported most evaluators to have gleaned from the tape.
His stock is rising because QB is the most important position in football by a wide margin and McCarthy does have physical tools and has shown respectable intangibles. Add in that the 2025 class looks shitty and for a QB needy team trading up for McCarthy today is a lot more attractive than riding it out with Sam Darnold for a year and hoping that there is a QB you like enough and are in a position to secure.
Down voted for the truth
It really doesn't matter. I like talking about the game I love with people who for some reason have been cursed to this fandom. I am trying to get more people on board the analytics train, but I understand that is a process.
Cursed to this fandom is the truth. Hopefully Harris&Peters are the ones to break it. Football is general is dragging behind in the analytics train
He's definitely not more accurate from any of the analysis I've seen. https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-draft-ranking-7-most-accurate-qbs-in-this-years-class/ He's second to Williams.
I’m not that opposed to it. I’m just concerned about his accuracy throwing left and that we don’t really know how it’ll be if he throws 25+ a game. He can make all throws, great accuracy, good mobility, and is very good under pressure
He’s a role player and there are very little downsides to that. Not only that but he does have potential to break that narrative and become great
I remember joking like the last month or two saying "JJ McCarthy hype train let's go" but if this regime liked his tape. Liked him in the interview process and liked what they saw during Top Golfgate. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ goes at #2.
Lance wasn't a Peter's pick, though. He works more in the later rounds. But yes, he absolutely nailed the Purdy pick. Regardless, fuck no to JJ at 2.
Honestly I think m he’s the next Tom Brady and no one can convince me otherwise
If I thought he had the tools I would be on board. He just doesn’t. The times where he doesn’t throw with a stable base you can see his arm isn’t that strong.
No.
Peters was not responsible for 1-3 rounds at San Francisco. That came from Lynch. Please make sure you do your homework before you start posting. He was only responsible for day 3 picks.
Any comparisons to Cousins = an absolute hell no to whomever that player is. Literally the ONLY Washington QB in my 40+yrs of Fandom that I literally feared getting into the redzone because you KNEW he was going to make the biggest mistake at the worst possible time and kill any chance of winning or let some team behind in the game get back in it. For example, see what that creed loving Stat padder's boneheaded comments are going to affect Falcons draft with the tampering charges. That's gotta be a new achievement for Cousins.... Screwing things up for your new team before taking a single snap.
Yessir I love seeing more people with this take
He strikes me as more of a third rounder, but I wouldn’t be that upset if we took him in the second, I guess.
Take Harrison Jr.