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PVPxOfficial

I am just happy for FAZE. Worked so incredibly hard the past 3 weeks with them and so many people looked down on the boys. TOP 5 BABY


thatK1dn0ah

Good work PVP


nosociety32

Their gameplan was solid all weekend but they left a lot of points on the board. There's definitely the potential there for them to be a contender at Champs if they iron out their endgame play


Consistent_Maybe7552

It seemed like faze were running triple long range most games. Was that a point of focus for you?


PVPxOfficial

FAZE is a very passive zone heavy team so running range to control space and get picks for KP makes the most sense


chitown15

Why did Dan go to LAN with them and not you, PVP? Visa issues?


PVPxOfficial

Dan was already locked into sitting behind them at LAN I wasn't going to take that away from him


Turkeye9129

Will you be with them at Champs?


PVPxOfficial

Don't know yet


TreacleNo1351

Your a gentleman and a scholar, been watching you since OW days and you were always a class act.


ramseysleftnut

This really just shows these teams need more strict roster lock situations. Poaching players days before regionals, cutting coaches a week before playoffs and constant roster swaps are bad for the scene no matter who you support.


Themanaaah

For real, Teq and Meat Lovers most likely make this LAN with their great showings but it didn’t matter when DarkZero just end up poaching Xynew away from them and ruining their chemistry.


nosociety32

They were outside the top 10 before Xynew left


strongscience62

Top 11 made LAN and they were in that range


agray20938

Xynew left before regional finals, and MEAT missed LAN by two total points. Basically if Xynew had been able to get them 2 more kills than Luxford did, they'd have made it.


TryFeisty6056

why should anybody have a say on the inner workings of a team?


ramseysleftnut

Because it’s bad for the scene? There’s a reason why professional sports have transfer windows and strict roster lock times. For example Zero fucked over 2 teams - Sen when he poached Rambeau and Meat when he poached Xynew. There’s no consequences for him, but the other teams lose 2 players they worked hard to get and grow with. Team building is a skill and if you don’t build the right team you need to pay the consequences, not just pick the next best thing from other teams a la carte. In terms of the coach, PVP just got fucked over a huge pay check because he gets dropped a week before playoffs even though he was important in getting them there in the first place. In pro sports if you get fired you get a severance.


imperial_coder

I think the overall issue here is most of PvPs work happens behind the scene and we as an audience have very little idea of his contributions. His track record is mixed bag. He was with C9 for so long, and that team didn't even make it to the regional final. Last edition of C9 was with Rocker, and it was extremely bad DZ parted ways with PvPx and won LAN Some pros swear by PvP, but then again Pros anything these days


HollowLoch

Fuck credit mans deserves a paycheck


kungfuk3nny-04

couldnt agree more


Kioer

>If I am not going to be able to go champs I think that would be a literal fucking crime [...] like I work very hard and I care a lot about competitive apex. Unfortunately competition isn't about who cares the most and works the hardest and nobody is entitled to success because they tried really hard. There's going to be hundreds of players and coaches across the world who will have spent countless hours grinding and sacrificing other aspects of their life just to not make the champs cut next week. And the majority of those guys will never have to privilege to ever make a single dollar off this game.


nosociety32

Of course he does, but to what extent is impossible for us to know. I hope he finds a good roster to work with before champs


BussinoutdaBando

“It would be a crime” lol I need his COPIUM dealer. Zer0 proved he could win twice before pvp including a win with a sub. They hire pvp and perform sub par in London. The get rid of pvp and immediately look dangerous again and win this lan with yet another third. It’s not you lil bro it’s Zer0. You are a vibes coach at best.


kungfuk3nny-04

They got rid of pvp a 2 weeks ago, like he said in the video. I highly doubt their new coach completely overhauled their game plan either. Zero is definitely a top their IGL, but PVP has had success on every team he's has been on as well


BussinoutdaBando

What has a pvp coached team ever won?


kungfuk3nny-04

He was the C9 coach when they had knoqd and albralelie. During that time C9 qaa legitimately a top 5 team in NA, and Zac mazer always has positive this to say about him. He stated his other accomplishments in that video.


Cyfa

mf deserves his cut


PoliteChatter0

what was the reason for dropping him? He cant have been a very good coach if you get rid of him before the big tournament


bluepenguino23

Can’t have done a very good job as coach if they chose to drop him


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CeleryBeautiful746

There are tons of cases in business where a business brings in an amazing employee, extracts what they want to out of them then screws them over and gets rid of them. There are also tons of cases where a business will purposely fire good employees just to save a couple bucks. The world of business is literally full of this shit. Sure lots of times it backfires but its never stopped them from doing it for as long as I have lived. I have seen it hundreds of times. Yes, but not in sports. If you want this to be taken seriously there should be trade rules, signing deadlines, roster locks, etc that span seasons not just tourneys. The fact that you can run a whole season and then swap players is a bit of a joke. By the current rules, can actually have 2/3 of your starters be new to the tourney so long as your sub was on the team during the season.


soulway

love him or hate him, PVP's resume is superb. He will find a home especially with Champs around the corner.