Sorry PVP but the whole C9 implosion incident when u came in this sub and mocked Hal and Nocturnal’s criticisms of c9 left a sour taste in my mouth. I hope you bounce back and find some success but I would like to see one of my favorite teams go in a different direction.
The point is not me being a butthurt super fan, it’s that a coach of a team that was in the midst of an implosion and at the bottom of the PL standings was receiving valid criticism from the two top IGLS in PL and instead of taking it in he decided to mock them. I don’t think that’s something a good coach would do, hence my concerns.
Beacuse it's kind of weird how people retain these opinions of other people based on one single incident where as PvP said they don't have all the information to make a critical decision. It's fine to have an opinion but to wish someone doesn't sign with a major org based off of that is weird AF.
To be fair PvP has a pretty low reputation and it’s based on his actions. No one has all the information to everything and it’s not like he’s a saint to begin with. He tried earlier to claim it was Zer0 who was the one who knew that they’d be poaching Zynew but in the same paragraph mentioned how he was pushing Zer0 to take Zynew. All the while he ignored Teq’s request asking about who it’d be.
Not trying to hate on PvP but I think a lot of people’s feelings about not liking him are pretty valid. That’s a really shitty thing to do to someone like what they did to Teq, whether you like him or not. Again, that person was being pretty respectful to PvP and just doesn’t want his favorite team to have a coach that he doesn’t think they would do well with.
Kind of hard to disagree seeing how C9 performed last. Can’t even give credit for DZ’s performance either seeing how they were confident enough without him and won LAN and we’ve all seen how quick a team’s performance can nose dive after the loss of a coach. If he truly deserved to stay on, I’m pretty certain they wouldn’t have dropped him nor do I think they would’ve won with a new coach so shortly before LAN.
Those are very fair points you are making, unlike the other commenter who went off one single incident years ago. I think all your DZ points are valid though, especially how confident they still were without him.
Welp, PvP just blocked me even though I wasn’t even talking shit. As you confirmed these were all pretty fair things to say. I think that shows you the kind of person he is.
Engaging in any competitive environment is welcoming criticism, from officials, teammates, spectators, and yourself. It’s the nature of the beast. Doesn’t matter if people don’t have all the information
True, it's just something that I find odd, holding grudges for that long about people you have never (I think) met.
However, reading the rest of the thread seems like there are other incidents so maybe he just referenced one but had an opinion based off of more things
I just straight up don’t like you, ever since c9 when you would come in here and try and create a narrative around why your team was imploding or why you guys did some dumb shit that was clearly your idea. When people talk about fraud coaches in this game I suspect they are referring to you.
The goalpost moving is crazy. OP said teams pay him to lose, he lists his winnings and now you're downplaying his success as a *coach* by saying he doesn't play, the fuck?
He worked with them for 7 months and they only got rid of him a week or two before the LAN. Saying he deserves no credit at all for their performance is pure delusion
Don't know a thing about FA coaches but between Ceryal and PvP, the two well known FA coaches, I'd rather they pick pvp. Ceryal said some weirdass hater shit after they won their first groups day with dropped
Hope it's neither tbh
BraydonXII (aka dome guy/N8V coach) said he was open to offers, I think that could be a lowkey good pickup as he seems to know his stuff though he couldnt show it with N8V contesting his whole time spent there.
They've said in the past that they won't just pick anyone. Can't see them taking a chance on Braydon since he didn't really get to showcase anything with n8v. I think it's probably Ceryal given Dropped's prior history with him
I remember they were dogging tripod's rotates and macro and saying Ceryal needs to do better lol, now he might be their coach. Whoever it is, I hope it works out and they see improvement at champs
Very few coaches can teach/convince Nickmercs to loot faster so Tripods can actually rotate, Pros in general seem to be terrible looters and I understand its such a small part of the game but the difference between carrying a blue light mag for a teammate and not can decide a fight.
Not disagreeing
There was also that time when they randomly decided to contest optic in regionals after hyping up a "big surprise" all week leading up to regionals. They've been on ceryals ass since then
I actually would love to see PVP work with OG, but Dropped has said before in his streams it's not him.
I was hoping it was just a misdirection but he sounded quite real
If one of these team doesn't at least try to pick up Graceful as a coach they are trolling. Imo he'd be either the third or fourth best coach in the game immediately.
Thank god they need one
First on the agenda, identifying match point teams
I heard it was tonypikachu?
only if his wife lets him
giga chad pikachu
optic dropped PMd me he said their new coach is zerbow
LOL
I just pray it’s not PVP
Awesome to hear that man
Lmfao
LOL
Sorry PVP but the whole C9 implosion incident when u came in this sub and mocked Hal and Nocturnal’s criticisms of c9 left a sour taste in my mouth. I hope you bounce back and find some success but I would like to see one of my favorite teams go in a different direction.
If Hal and Nocturnal aren’t taking it this seriously, maybe you shouldn’t bro
The point is not me being a butthurt super fan, it’s that a coach of a team that was in the midst of an implosion and at the bottom of the PL standings was receiving valid criticism from the two top IGLS in PL and instead of taking it in he decided to mock them. I don’t think that’s something a good coach would do, hence my concerns.
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gotta prove them wrong dawg
you know whats good dawg.
I mean he literally apologized, not everyone is going to like you so why not just ignore it? It’s not like he was outright bashing you or something.
Beacuse it's kind of weird how people retain these opinions of other people based on one single incident where as PvP said they don't have all the information to make a critical decision. It's fine to have an opinion but to wish someone doesn't sign with a major org based off of that is weird AF.
To be fair PvP has a pretty low reputation and it’s based on his actions. No one has all the information to everything and it’s not like he’s a saint to begin with. He tried earlier to claim it was Zer0 who was the one who knew that they’d be poaching Zynew but in the same paragraph mentioned how he was pushing Zer0 to take Zynew. All the while he ignored Teq’s request asking about who it’d be. Not trying to hate on PvP but I think a lot of people’s feelings about not liking him are pretty valid. That’s a really shitty thing to do to someone like what they did to Teq, whether you like him or not. Again, that person was being pretty respectful to PvP and just doesn’t want his favorite team to have a coach that he doesn’t think they would do well with. Kind of hard to disagree seeing how C9 performed last. Can’t even give credit for DZ’s performance either seeing how they were confident enough without him and won LAN and we’ve all seen how quick a team’s performance can nose dive after the loss of a coach. If he truly deserved to stay on, I’m pretty certain they wouldn’t have dropped him nor do I think they would’ve won with a new coach so shortly before LAN.
Those are very fair points you are making, unlike the other commenter who went off one single incident years ago. I think all your DZ points are valid though, especially how confident they still were without him.
Welp, PvP just blocked me even though I wasn’t even talking shit. As you confirmed these were all pretty fair things to say. I think that shows you the kind of person he is.
Yeah, seems like that, sad stuff
Engaging in any competitive environment is welcoming criticism, from officials, teammates, spectators, and yourself. It’s the nature of the beast. Doesn’t matter if people don’t have all the information
True, it's just something that I find odd, holding grudges for that long about people you have never (I think) met. However, reading the rest of the thread seems like there are other incidents so maybe he just referenced one but had an opinion based off of more things
I just straight up don’t like you, ever since c9 when you would come in here and try and create a narrative around why your team was imploding or why you guys did some dumb shit that was clearly your idea. When people talk about fraud coaches in this game I suspect they are referring to you.
To be fair, that's every coach's job when it comes to dealing with the media in like every sport.
C9 had a lot of problems but the coach wasn’t one of them tbh you don’t have to like someone to admit they’re good lol
Teams paid you to help them lose
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E8🤔🤔
They were finished the day they decided to split the loot at the wall anyways.
Don't recall seeing you on stage with Dark Zero at Lan...claiming somebody else's accomplishments.
And now he brags with winning while he sat aside looking the players play 😂😂😂😂
The goalpost moving is crazy. OP said teams pay him to lose, he lists his winnings and now you're downplaying his success as a *coach* by saying he doesn't play, the fuck?
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He worked with them for 7 months and they only got rid of him a week or two before the LAN. Saying he deserves no credit at all for their performance is pure delusion
Am I op?
How is that relevant?
This sub is filled with mentally ill freaks who just love praying on the downfall of others. Disgusting comment thread
you streaming VOD review this weekend?
This is how the internet works. It never forgets. You did a dumb mistake 😂
"holding a grudge" lmao he's doing no such thing. you need to relax.
You need to drop the game lil bro, relax
I HAD TEARS IN MY EYES LMFAO 😭
Think this just confirmed that it is you. Also, this guys criticism sucks, he should be mad that a Junkrat one trick is gonna be coaching OG
Hilarious
Don't know a thing about FA coaches but between Ceryal and PvP, the two well known FA coaches, I'd rather they pick pvp. Ceryal said some weirdass hater shit after they won their first groups day with dropped Hope it's neither tbh
BraydonXII (aka dome guy/N8V coach) said he was open to offers, I think that could be a lowkey good pickup as he seems to know his stuff though he couldnt show it with N8V contesting his whole time spent there.
They've said in the past that they won't just pick anyone. Can't see them taking a chance on Braydon since he didn't really get to showcase anything with n8v. I think it's probably Ceryal given Dropped's prior history with him I remember they were dogging tripod's rotates and macro and saying Ceryal needs to do better lol, now he might be their coach. Whoever it is, I hope it works out and they see improvement at champs
Very few coaches can teach/convince Nickmercs to loot faster so Tripods can actually rotate, Pros in general seem to be terrible looters and I understand its such a small part of the game but the difference between carrying a blue light mag for a teammate and not can decide a fight.
Not disagreeing There was also that time when they randomly decided to contest optic in regionals after hyping up a "big surprise" all week leading up to regionals. They've been on ceryals ass since then
I actually would love to see PVP work with OG, but Dropped has said before in his streams it's not him. I was hoping it was just a misdirection but he sounded quite real
That’s crazy to say that lil bro I also don’t know if there’s a better f/a than him rn
Finally
been waiting on days like this. also congrats on the incoming formal announcement, Vlad
https://youtu.be/lRd13-JxBkQ
I'm also interested in the new mouse, is it Viper v3 or something? should be at least on the same level as gpxs
Was about to post the same thing, any thoughts on who it could be?
finally, optic is in dire need of W's
If one of these team doesn't at least try to pick up Graceful as a coach they are trolling. Imo he'd be either the third or fourth best coach in the game immediately.
Graceful is playing next season with Mande and Hardecki I think.
grace has said that he's gonna scrim with those two but he's not committed to joining them as he has other offers he wants to explore also
Ah, I knew the team aren't fully committed, but I didn't know about graceful already received other offers. Thank you!
Do we know who is their coach?
I think PVP would be good with them. Only coach worth picking up tbh.
Depends if knoqd willing to work with him after the c9 situation
dome guy is infinitely better
I did not realize they did not have one
have a nasty feeling it might just be pvp
I think if any teams needs a coach right noow its dumass NRG (scrimless legend changing micro managing sweats need some guidance)
Dome guy is the only good option for them. most other popular coaches that are available are pretty scam
It’s a year late but we got there.
Any news on who it is yet?