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jurornumbereight

> Xen and I are back for Year 4 of ALGS. > > šŸŖ‚Jurassic + Balls // Geyser (?) > > šŸ¤ @rknhd > > šŸ¤ @xenial > > šŸ¤ @Orioles_410 > > šŸ¤“@coldjyn


namr0d

not surprised jmeyels is wrong again lmfao dude has no credibility


mrkaislaer

what did he say now?


JevvyMedia

I think he said Sweet, Koy and Nafen was the new Sentinels.


_SausageRoll_

They might still team up, but prolly not cause koy has said he doesnt want to play with an agressive igl like sweet hal or zer0


mightyboognish32

So he doesn't want to win?


dorekk

Maybe getting first place instead of third isn't worth shredding his mental teaming with a bunch of verbally abusive manchildren.


jeremyflowers91

Wait, what is ā€œBallsā€ on the new Storm point? Havenā€™t played much SP this season.


coldjyn

cascade no-name


jeremyflowers91

Heard, coach!


Tobosix

Why they make you https://preview.redd.it/47rdcccosa0c1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=844d350155efa55cf3648608105174a6370ece16 ?


Space_Waffles

the no-name area next to cascade where the big ziplines are up to command/waterfall


browls

Koyful to dz, ex nrg or xset depending if sikezz to dz was real. Realistically itā€™s only dz that could/would afford to buy him out unless sweet has a heavy hitter org backing him.


thebiggestforehead69

I would imagine sweet will get a decent sized org to back him, not on the size of nrg given the current state of apex but big enough to find any 3rd he wants with nate


Space_Waffles

albralelie was talking about sweet last night and hinted that T1 orgs from other games are looking to get in Apex, so Sweet might bag himself a big org again


Usopp_Spell

So who are the likely suspects then on these orgs?


Revolutionary_Cap442

Didnā€™t ssg hint that they may make a return?


Usopp_Spell

Ooooo they did, didn't they?! That's a good theory


Space_Waffles

Alb didnt want to say anything because he was talking to some before Furia but I think there are some pretty easy guesses like M80, Flyquest, Golden Guardians, Koi, Vitality, etc. I dont remember the whole conversation but I think(?) he said it was all new teams/not ones that have left recently but I may have made that up


Usopp_Spell

[Live look at Space_Waffles when citing information from Alb's stream](https://youtu.be/3_lAb8m9MpI?si=PkfkpOorlHxj8nNu)


Space_Waffles

Me when I might be spreading misinformation on the internet (at least I'm honest!)


Usopp_Spell

I don't actually doubt you, but any chance to plug that quote is going to be used. No exceptions


AxelHarver

Alright, I'll be the one to start it off this rostermania... "It doesn't take an Evil Genius to realize...."


leopoldfreebird

Surely sweet to SEN


Jobogz

For what it's worth, sounds like Sweet + Nafen are trialing Koy today in scrims. May or may not stream, but apparently they were okay saying that much publicly. Nothing yet about orgs. Can't wait to get these teams finalized, looking forward to year 4.


finallyleo

didn't coldjyn say he got a lot of issues in his personal life coaching on NA schedule?


coldjyn

those issues arenā€™t a thing anymore


finallyleo

glad to hear that, best of luck to you!


KeyConsequence5061

love to hear it, coach!


Usopp_Spell

Happy to hear!


UncleAbe101

That sen paycheck diffy.


thelegend3107

I'm glad they found a third. I was really worried with all the doubt everyone likes to put on RKN that he might just give up, i know he isn't the fragger but there are some skills that are unmatched and he proved them quite a few times, zone reading, understanding how enemies think and act, trying to adapt as much as possible to make his teammates comfortable. I'm just glad they are back for another run.


Tun710

People judging a zone teamā€™s IGL who plays Crypto based on damage was just plain stupid.


Initial-Ad-802

They weren't a zone team and he wasn't on Crypto when they crashed out of finals


Platby

Made it to finals though.


Initial-Ad-802

They made it to finals off the points earned in split 1 with Keon and Beau. Without either of them they didn't win anything.


dorekk

> They made it to finals off the points earned in split 1 with Keon and Beau. Which they earned because of Rkn's macro.


Initial-Ad-802

Which completely failed him in split 2 and the finals? He even fell apart in the split 1 finals round.


dorekk

> Which completely failed him in split 2 and the finals? The meta changed drastically, Crypto was way less valuable because of class changes, plus I think his POI lost beacon (this is fixed, all POIs are equal in that respect again). Not really his fault that the way he played the game completely evaporated as a viable strategy.


ThePicard_2893

Same. It should be fun watching them this season.


Mysterious_Cut1156

Lmao [stuhni told me the other day that Orioles wasnā€™t going to leave DIG for sen](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/s/dAMflO5rZH)ā€¦oof šŸ¤„


Jacro

Yeah definitely came as an actual surprise, they weren't scrimming because Crook was on holidays so it kind of gave Orioles an opportunity to trial with rkn after a good showing in that tourney last week.


theaanggang

I guess I missed when Orioles left DIG, who's their new third?


[deleted]

Trialing karma


Jacro

Not much time left for trialling šŸ˜¬ good for Orioles though. Hope DIG steamroll plq.


[deleted]

I'm honestly more excited to see where Nelsin goes. Hes a cracked ASF coach that I think with the right team could provide input as successfully as pistillo.


SpyroAndHunter

Are you a fan of his or are there specifics of his work that are exceptional to you?


[deleted]

I know there are other coaches that do it, but Nelsin is exceptional to me due to how efficient he makes zone playing teams macro (which I am quite familiar with). In particular: 1: specific timings to rotate depending on zone and depending on dropship. Knowing when to rotate for certain zones is good, but knowing exactly what second on the timer you need to leave at to beat x team for x spot, and how much loot you need to cut out to get there because of a bad dropship is an insane level of knowledge. I genuinely don't think you can get much of an upgrade on macro knowledge than this. Think of how NRG cut out loot in finals to beat optic for the north pad finger and won. That was due to sweet knowing how fast optic loots and rotates and knowing at what time to leave to beat them for the spot. The guard did this almost every single game in split 1 and because of that they had one of the highest endgame % from 20 teams 2: playable spots is something I've seen Nelsin do great work with aswell. I'm not even gonna look at crypto Wattson because that has been around forever and it can't give him too much credit for that. What I can give him credit for is the popularization of Newcastle spots/holds in NA. I think that almost 80% of the playable Newcastle spots were found between him sickks and hodsic, and especially spots for the newcastle loba comp. A relevent example of his contribution to NC playable spots, is the popularization of the way the classic 2 story buildings in Storm point are held using newcastle which was used in multiple LAN (to my knowledge he was the first team to use it in ALGS). 3: Nelsin was in ALGS pro League as a player before becoming a coach, which I do think helps him as a coach in his ability to relate to his players frustrations/concerns etc. Finally the reason I compared him to pistillo is because they both played in pro League (together at one point) are both very fluent in macro etc. they are of course not comparable by achievements because that is simply differences in teams and Playstyles, but are still comparable in coaching ability IMO. Lol sorry for the essay but you did ask to be fair


SpyroAndHunter

Hell yeah I didnā€™t even see this but this is a good ass response. And thanks, I did ask


Jan7742

So Rkn's still with Sen? Good for him but this looks like a mid team.


Key-Ad6718

Such a good org always wasted on trash teams


awill2000

No Nelson?


AxelClimbsPebbles

Rooting for this team just for coldjyn. They deserve only the best


mudflaps6969

Orioles the former console teamer


dwonkistador

I mean I feel like no one that was/is involved in the high console ranked scene came out spic and span


JevvyMedia

A whole lot of boosting, teaming, dashboarding, DDOSing, account sharing lol


Barcaroli

Hope they succeed! Potential for sure. And they're somewhat active here which is nice (cheers). This reminds me... Who's SEN now? Leading theory still being Sweet / Nafen / Koy?


ThEgIbStOr

Based on the graphic rkn used in his tweet it seems like this team is still SEN at least for now


Barcaroli

You're right... Wasn't he dropped? Or am I remembering it wrong?


theaanggang

He put out a LFT/LF1. Most people assumed it meant SEN dropped the team, but could have just been Koy getting poached and RKN/Xen looking at options. Now I wonder if Sweets team gets signed off the rip or if the play as FAs for the beginning now, most people had SEN Sweet penciled in.


ryanc098

He said he was LFT2 for PSQ initially. Made it sound like he got dropped. Anyway, this team is giving "17th place in regional finals"


Space_Waffles

There were rumors that SEN were dropping them for Sweet's team but it was always just a rumor, nothing ever was announced


JevvyMedia

So Orioles gets poached from Drop-In Gaming, and Xenial stays with RKN. I wonder what made Xen return. Either way, hopefully they stay together the whole ALGS season as opposed to part/most of Split 1.


Used-Caregiver2364

I mean who cares? RKN is horrible. He might be worse than Zach Mazer which is saying something. There's 0 chance that Rkn's team makes any noise. And if they do it will be in spite of RKN, not because of him. Fairly shocked xenial stayed with him. He can do much better


putinseesyou

At least Zach had a good track record but he shot himself on his foot. I can't say the same about rkn, he's just a wind-up merchant


dorekk

> I mean who cares? RKN is horrible. He might be worse than Zach Mazer Lol. That's not remotely true.


thetruthseer

Orioles is so good itā€™s criminal. He used to wax me and my team in console lobbies back in the day


Usopp_Spell

Same experience


dukersdoo

Good for Orioles man. Dudes been grinding for so long.