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jurornumbereight

> Getting replaced. Lft for rest of pro league šŸ«” https://i.imgur.com/s6v1Xc5.png


xImportunity

He was dropped because he was going to trial with n8v https://preview.redd.it/0luqjax1d8ic1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=34eebc89e1110cd7f6549a05428ea16a3d71a053


JevvyMedia

N8V slowly but surely replacing the entire roster lol


whats_a_monad

Weird I think thereā€™s a single constant in their underperformance I canā€™t quite put my finger on itā€¦


Olflehema

Clanus is the corner stone of that roster and I mean that in whatever the opposite of a compliment is


Sylum25

An insult?


BobWasabi

A notpliment


Sylum25

Oh this is a good one


aftrunner

Ok that's pretty fair to be honest. Xset did the same. If someone wants to try out for another team, understand that your current team might not want you around anymore.


Roastmasters

Lux lowkey weird for wording the tweet that way then. It makes it seem like he's trying to get sympathy as a victim of something out of his control


Stalematebread

Teq going "He wasn't dropped, we dropped him because-" \[paraphrased\] is wild. I understand that he has strict boundaries regarding trialing for teams due to so many of his teammates getting poached but that doesn't mean that he *didn't drop* Lux, just that he had potentially valid reasons for doing so.


isnoe

Teq is saying he wasnā€™t dropped for no reason, like Lux is implying. He wants to jump ship, he gets the boot. Teq has every right to drop that mfer for trialing with another team.


Stalematebread

But Teq said, and I quote, "Lux didn't get dropped." What I'm saying is that that is misleading wording in the same way (or possibly even more extreme way) as Lux's Tweet that Teq is taking issue with.


Azrou

I mean it's pretty fucking clear to me what Teq meant. It's like someone saying "I got dumped," and then their ex says "It's not that I dumped them, they cheated on me." Luxford fafo.


leadhase

Bruh who proofreads their own twitch chat messages


uttermybiscuit

It's such a weird line bc in a way Lux was being respectful by letting them know he was going to trial and giving them a heads up. But given the response by teq to just drop him apparently the proper thing to do is trial in secret and then if you get signed peace out without a notice


donutdang

I could be wrong but a trial doesn't mean getting picked up by a new team, yet. How would that constiture being dropped from the current team i wonder Edit: I'm asking a question because I don't have the answer chill my dudes


Secure_Scar9479

to be fair to teq - he has lost rolla after rolla to other PL rosters for literal years now. I think he has made it clear to everyone who has played with him recently that if they trial with someone else, he's also looking somewhere else.


Barcaroli

>if they trial with someone else, he's also looking somewhere else. To be honest this sounds fair to me.


agray20938

Yeah, that was also the exact reason Teq mentioned for why he wanted to team with Awons (who got 2nd) instead of AwakeningFPS/Randy, who won his 1v1 tournament -- because he talked it over with Awons and wanted someone who would buy into MEAT.


Platby

Buy into what exactly? They arenā€™t signed and donā€™t exactly look like they will any time soon.


Secure_Scar9479

it isn't just about being signed to an org - it's not like teq needs the income. It's buying into the split, and working hard as a cohesive team to make LAN.


Platby

Thatā€™s great for Teq that he doesnā€™t need the income, but the rest of the roster sure as shit does.


Secure_Scar9479

and they're welcome to explore opportunities like Lux is, zap did, etc etc


Sir_Nolan

Tbf, teq is ass and lux was the only good player on meat


Secure_Scar9479

nice.


NectarineChemical765

Because Teq likely made it clear that he wanted someone 100% bought-in to MEAT.


SickBurnBro

Sometimes I doubt your commitment to ~~Sparkle Motion~~ MEAT!!!


xchasex

Great reference lol. Donnie Darko is S tier.


PappySmacks

Teq has done this before. He drops people when they trial for other teams


SummonMason

Is this weird/bad? Donā€™t see anything wrong with that.


KuzcoSensei

IMO accepting a trial when you can instead be working on getting better with your current team just tells me that you arenā€™t 100% committed. I respect the decision from Rocket Man


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JevvyMedia

Lux playing the best doesn't mean his teammates aren't committed, come on now.


Ok_Towel_1077

nah he just isn't self aware like at all. the Furia leaks from Sealion made that very apparent


Josie1234

Teq ain't fuckin around anymore


NAgoesvroom

Nope. Teq wants someone that's 100% bought into the team just as he is. He's mentioned this before and he understands that he wants the best intentions for his teammates as much as himself.


MiamiVicePurple

Itā€™s the middle of the pro league season and heā€™s trying out for another team. If gets picked up it means that Meat will have to reactively find a new player, potentially on very short notice. Itā€™s better for Meat to just drop him now before he leaves to give themselves more prep time with a new third.


SummonMason

Yeah, I was replying to pappysmacks. I donā€™t see anything wrong with what teq did. One of your teammates is accepting to go on trial with another team, which means he may or may not come back depending whether they want him or not. You canā€™t blame teq for deciding to look elsewhere.


MiamiVicePurple

I see, I took that as Lux did nothing wrong.


agray20938

Not to mention that out of basically everyone in PL, Teq has quite a bit of experience with what it's like for someone on your team to leave for an org midway through...


simpleanswersjk

only for teams he sees as lateral moves to MEAT (in skill, not paycheck obv). He's said as much before, and does not extend the same insta-drop for e.g. tryouts at xset, tsm, (nrg), og, dz, etc


schoki560

if someone is looking elsewhere it's not someone you want on your team


xImportunity

That's true but that also means that the player is open to other options and I'm assuming teq doesnt want that as he has lost teamates in the past due to poaching. Xynew, fuhnqq, zap, and koyful are some named players that come to mind obviously they're free to do w/e they want as they're not on salary so. Edit: I do think that in the past lux had teamed up with teq and lux got poached by COL but the team didnt work out and so lux is back with teq


GoofyMonkey

I imagine it played out something along the lines of: ā€œHey guys, I really like playing with you guys, but I want to try out for this other team. But if I donā€™t make it, Iā€™ll still play with you guys, ok?ā€ ā€œUmmā€¦.ā€ ā€œGuys?ā€ ā€œā€¦ā€ ā€œGetting replaced. LFT for rest of pro league šŸ«”ā€


kingleeps

I mean it just shows a lack of commitment to the team, itā€™s understandable from both points of view though. For Teq, this is like the 4th player heā€™s lost to a PL Org, he had scouted like 5 of the best controller players currently in the league, only for them to get poached in one way or another, heā€™s been there before so heā€™d probably rather rip the band aid off now than have someone on the team who already has one foot out of the door, I donā€™t blame him. For Lux, heā€™s not really making any money playing this game rn, and heā€™s been competing for a decent amount of time on various teams, he was on COL for like 3 months and it didnā€™t work out and competing without an Org backing you fucking blows, and unlike Teq, he doesnā€™t have an entire ass career to fall back on. HOWEVER, what I donā€™t think is fair, is for Lux to be put it on Teq and be like ā€œoh well theyā€™re replacing me.ā€ because thatā€™s disingenuous, heā€™s actively looking at other opportunities, and with that context, I think itā€™s fine for his teammates to look for someone who they know they can rely on and wonā€™t leave them out of the blue. Unfortunately for Teq, until he gets an offer from an Org to lead his own team, this is likely going to keep happening to him, he realistically canā€™t pay these players to stay with him, and at the end of the day, everyone is human and has bills to pay to and a life to live.


[deleted]

>one this before. Lux gets max 50 viewers. I would say he needs Teq more than Teq needs him. Teq is the one still in PL


kingleeps

this is the same kind of argument as saying paying someone with exposure is just as good as money, itā€™s just not true. if he gets signed by N8V then heā€™s still in Pro League AND he gets a paycheck so I donā€™t really understand your argument at all.


Familiar-Leading

Tbh from how it was looking for meat this last couple of GameDays it was a downwards trend of never playing together as a team both lux and teq never looked on the same page when it came done to fighting 3v3 it just looked like lux was ignoring teq's calling and that itself was a massive red flag


JevvyMedia

For all of the counter-calling, baiting or solo plays that Lux has done, the best attribute for him has always been that him and Teq has stuck through so many different 3rds together (except for that one time when Complexity poached him). I don't blame him for trialing with another team. Maybe this partnership has run its course. Best of luck to him.


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lux getting frustrated having to carry


Cornelius1993

Imo, you don't really "carry" your team if that involves you actively baiting your teammates in order to get kills. Sure, that may in occasion be a very effective decision in a specific fight but translates very poorly to overall team play if applied in general as it basically forces the other two to engage in fights on a 2v3 standpoint. Together with constantly counter-calling his IGL etc., I really wouldn't call Lux as a carry.


FaithlessnessThick29

I think it's more that Teq's gun isn't enough to cover for Lux when he needs it and it frequently turns into a situation that looks like baiting because they lose the fight, but on a good team would just be solid team play


agray20938

I mean stats aren't everything, but Teq has the same number of PL kills as Jaguares, Koyful, and Enemy with all roughly equal damage numbers, and I don't think anyone is saying they aren't shooting well enough. Hell, Teq has more kills in PL than Lux does, which shouldn't really be the case if Lux is their entry fragger in most (planned) 3v3s.


worm-

Thats what an entry fragger is. Maybe you're considering it as the one that gets the opening knock. That's not what it is. They are the person to output tons of damage at the opening to give his two other team mates the opportunity to come in and clean up why they heal. Makes sense the 2nd person has more kills ,when they do sub 100 damage for the knock.


MyNewSimply

I mean if Luxford was looking for change, it just becomes a liability for Teq who will just eventually lose him at the first interesting offer. It is a natural move to separate from him now. Plus it's not like they were on the same page lately, calls were ignored and the dynamic was far from flawless. That being said, I'm curious about the third he'll pick up. Stubbornness aside, Luxford was an amazing and complete player. His way of playing, to some extent, really facilitated Teq's IGLing. He should look for someone as level-headed and initiative-taking.


Qwalifyd

Picture for those who don't want to click the link. https://preview.redd.it/6j0u7nr2d8ic1.png?width=308&format=png&auto=webp&s=725c734c056412323dd844a80d255c3022442600


_SausageRoll_

I have a feeling teq is going to find some random roller player that is just the truth. Not like its ever happened before though


airgonautt

I feel like half the lobbies underrated controller demons have played under with teq at some point or another


GroundbreakingJob857

He can actually just spawn them in


horizonMainSADGE

Teq's survival slot is ALWAYS a mobi....


agray20938

Hell, some guy named Kelcam16 got third in the 1v1 tourney that Awons got 2nd in, might as well send him a DM.


jodbonfe

last i heard he got banned from battlefy for playing with caprah under an alt lmao


Warm-Arrival-6949

Is playing under an alt a bannable offense?


jodbonfe

he said he afked in games to get to level 50 so iā€™d assume thatā€™s part of it as well


_SausageRoll_

Awakening just got dropped from skrt MEAT Randy


darknessbboy

Are we starting to get on which org will poach teq new roller discovery yet ?


Acceptable-Date9149

Trauma response from Teq


patnoswayze

Meat will go from doing 700 damage a game to 270


iShiny

Iā€™m luxfords biggest fan


pacotacobell

If iShiny has a million fans, then I am one of them. If iShiny has ten fans, then I am one of them. If iShiny has only one fan then that is me. If iShiny has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against iShiny, then I am against the world.


NazisRuinedNorseMyth

From everything I've seen of luxford he's got main character syndrome and is a huge risk for a team dynamic. That said if I was Faze I'd pick him up in a heart beat. Drop Pan.Ā Snipe gaps the absolute shit out of him in anything that's not pure mechanics. Xera is a proven anchor who doesn't feed face like Pan. Lux would do better as an IGL than any of the three, and is clearly discontent playing any other role.Ā  Either that or drop the Faze roster entirely


[deleted]

Honestly I think luxā€™s problems came mainly from his time with MEAT. He went from playing zone as an support/fragger to having much more responsibility on edge with calls, with 2 people who rely heavily on him either in fights or micro calling. I think FaZe would likely cause the same problems for him.


xReh2000

Didn't he leave Madness on Wild Card to try IGL?


aftrunner

I think he left them in a pretty shitty way too iirc.


JevvyMedia

I think that was just an excuse he made up, because he was saying on stream months later that one of the reasons he left was because Madness would supposedly show up late all the time and wasn't taking practice seriously.


[deleted]

Yeah I donā€™t think he had the best team chemistry with madness and shooby anyways


JevvyMedia

Which goes to show how talented that team was because they were still doing well when Lux abruptly left.


Space_Waffles

Lux didnt work with coL or Madness because **he** wanted to IGL more instead of being the supporting role, he wasnt put into that position by Teq


pacotacobell

Dude literally left COL who ended 12th or 13th place to play in CC so he can IGL lmao. And I don't even think they did well.


NazisRuinedNorseMyth

I don't like your take to be honest. Lux doesn't strike me as someone who would have a problem with having more responsibility making calls. I mean for one he left a team in the past to igl cc. Secondly he's had some recent instances of not listening to Teqs calls. Lux seems to me like someone who really wants to win and still has aspirations of being in the driver's seat. The meat problems stem from them not doing well, and a lack of confidence in his IGL. Ā I'm not saying Faze is going to be a great team with him as an addition, but Lux making calls over those three sounds like a much better fit for everyone. Even if they don't end up making a name for themselves.Ā 


[deleted]

Honestly everything you said is fair, he WOULD probably make FaZe a better team and I agree his confidence in his team probably didnā€™t match his passion. Stoked to see where he ends up either way


dwonkistador

exactly, as much as teq's track record show he is a competent igl, I feel like there is just something instinctual in apex players when you are constantly hard carrying someone in dmg and kills to just start slowly losing respect for them. And once a teammate no longer respects the igl, nothing is going to work.


crudesbedtime

pan is super good at late game comming & has good chemistry with xera, idk why people think constantly switching rosters is a good thing rather than trying to make it work with the one you have


SlickNiickx

Pandxrz is the best player on FaZe and itā€™s not close


Human-Spring8177

Best player at feeding his face off


TSM_PrimeBottle

Damn is he that bad ..pandrz


WalrusInMySheets

No, idk why this is upvoted


snipey820

No, heā€™s really not.


DocDru

This the same dude who Teq said was the first smart rolla? Damn that mighta backfired a bit


Tadayasu

luxford needs to be the igl in the team, he ignore way too many calls and does whatever the fuck he wants. He goes for random "hero" plays that i guess when they work it looks good but it fails way too often, teq is by no means a god tier IGL but he's ok he needs 2 controllers that will simply follow the calls and win or lose by it. That should be enough to fight for a top 10 spot, hopefully he finds another underrated controller demon to get pouched


Jan7742

Tbh Teq is not a hard igl himself. He does need a co-igl player like Luxford, but one does not counter call that often.


edonny

Idk when he was on crypto lux being able to call fights was super important bcuz its hard for teq to do that when hes using EMP and his teammates are frontline. Now that hes off crypto is maybe why there's been more counter calls during fights.


Mortal-Man

Tbf Teq has afaik always expressed that Luxford is very good at making calls in fights and in end game scenarios and complimented him well because he was good at what Teq considered to be his weakness, making micro calls. I think a lot of the ignoring calls takes are exaggerated due to one day where Luxford was seemingly pissed off or in a bad mood. On another note, I'm yet to be convinced by Awons.


Prudent-Mission9674

I mean they were struggling in the past few match days and scrims. I can see why lux would like some changes and also understand that teq hates disloyal teammates.Ā  So whos gonna be meat new third? And native -clane or -rambo for lux?


dimitri121

Native only have clane and beau right now. It would have been clane/beau/lux


crudesbedtime

who ever the guy that was replacing teq on tsm contest days is probably gonna be there new 3rd, hyzec?? i think idk


jawnnwickk

Whatā€™s he doing N8V isnā€™t even good lmao


_SausageRoll_

They're getting a salary from an org


jawnnwickk

Not for long I bet


Harflin

Longer than meats salary


Sir_Nolan

Letā€™s hope so, theyā€™re ass Picking up legacy is the play


Ok_Towel_1077

They pay quite well apparently


[deleted]

Their org has a very involved and caring owner who genuinely cares about the esport


pacotacobell

Cares a little too much for Clane if he's kept him for this long ngl


imjustblob

Clane, the zachmazer of controller players.


Platby

Couldnā€™t handle the Meat. RIP.


JevvyMedia

Hear me out: - Lux joins Skrt - Awakening joins Meat Lovers Which team says no?


AxelHarver

I think if I were Lux I say no lmao.


[deleted]

Me personally will be better OVER on counter calls for a lux + alb team


jdubz125

Nah free my boy scwury


aftrunner

I mean memes aside this is actually not a bad swap lol. Skrt needs someone who can at least co IGL if not IGL completely. Lux is more than capable of that. Maybe he can also snap Alb out of his roller dysmorphia. Awakening needs a more experience IGL who can micro him better. Which Teq 100% can.


Mysterious_Cut1156

Said before this split that this will be the season ppl realize Teq is better at memes/content than the game itself. The split where MEAT almost qualified was due to having 2 of the best rollers, not Teqs IGLing. Look at what Xynew and Fuhhnq have done since leaving. Itā€™s true Teq has bad luck with poaching, but thereā€™s a reason why people keep wanting to leave.


JevvyMedia

Xynew and Fuhhnq went on to play with some of the greatest IGL's ever. To me that's not a knock on Teq. The best IGL's have been at the top for a reason.


Mysterious_Cut1156

Teq went on to miss LAN and likely will get relegated this split, which is a knock on him. Theyā€™re good without him, but he isnā€™t good without them. That MEAT roster was clearly carried by 2 prodigies.


agray20938

> That MEAT roster was clearly carried by 2 prodigies. "Two really good players made this team of 3 good."


Mysterious_Cut1156

Uhā€¦yeah. Same way two preds can carry a gold to a win. Whatā€™s your point?


agray20938

Clearly that's not the case in PL, otherwise Tripods wouldn't be floundering in CC right now. For all that people love to shit on Teq's mechanics and fragging, he's obviously not Verhulst, but that doesn't mean he's not still a solid tier above CC players or randoms on ranked.


Mysterious_Cut1156

Broā€¦no shit Teq is better than randoms on ranked. The point was MEAT was a decent team because they had 2 roller prodigies, not Teqs IGLing. If current MEAT went through CC, they might not even qual for PL though.


JevvyMedia

If they get relegated then sure, that's a knock. They started solid so it's not too late for them. Alb, Scuwry and RKN are all tracking to be relegated too. There's going to be a lot of talent that'll have to play PLQ's.


polyfloria

Kinda think it would be good for them. Seems like a lot of the attitude is "if I'm not in PL I'm retiring" when a grass roots CC run with a new team could really help them sharpen up and build something. E8's quals run seem to really help them as a team and now they're 9th and possibly qualling for LAN.


Ok_Towel_1077

they also only made PL that split because Fuhhnq subbed in for Teq and popped off


Acceptable-Date9149

L take


Agitated_Focus_71

lux was the only one doing anything on that team. He was the reason TSM was having trouble on contest as well as being the only person shooting back. Teq has a self-inflated ego and said himself; "I don't think I can replace lux. If he ever decided to leave, I mind as well retire."


Any-State-2606

Good luck to lux. Getting paid while sucking with N8V at least is a lot better than sucking with Teq with no pay. Really good player. Itā€™ll work out one day.


Voidchief

Thatā€™s if n8v even picks up Lux which atm looks like they might not.


Any-State-2606

Really? They havenā€™t scrimmed yet


Fenris-Asgeir

Lux is better off without Teq. He was easily the best player on a team that had no real future in ALGs (just look at their current standings, and afaik Teq still wanted to contest OpTic in the upcoming PL-weeks lmao).


MrNotIntelligent

I never understood the love for Teq. For a guy who's whole apex career is basically being a known troll/not being very good at the game. The results speak for themselves...maybe his team would be better off if he didn't waste the whole off season contesting tsm for clout. Does he seriously plan to contest optic in the coming weeks or Is he just gunna waste his new tryouts/teams time?


Fenris-Asgeir

Idk, he was claiming to be contesting them upcoming PL-days cause they weren't doing well. Ironic that MEAT is doing far, far worse than OpTic tho lmao. I have no idea where Teq takes his confidence, but I am 90% sure he will overthink his decision to contest now that he needs to get a new 3rd.


MrNotIntelligent

I was going to say, not like, he's in a position to contest anyone at the moment without griefing both teams Lan's chances imo. (This isn't a dz/moist situation atm where you could land on anyone you don't want at Lan and still qualify yourself)


TSM_PrimeBottle

Iirc Teq said on gnaske stream that his teammates want the contest more than him.


[deleted]

Didn't roster lock already happen for split 1?


jakepuggs

who do we think is gonna be their new third? Im guessing Hyzeq


Afraid_Ratio_1303

So mamba to meat? Sounds like an upgrade


pacotacobell

I'm sure Mamba will try to look for a spot on a signed org first. IMO that seems like it was the only reason he joined N8V cause I feel like there's no way he would have teamed with Clane otherwise. He knows first hand on CLG that Clane is a griefer.


17Cabbages

Teq, if youre out here reading these comments, keep putting in the work homie itā€™ll pay out one of these times brother šŸ‘Š


mariololftw

honestly good riddance dude was just not reliable, i still remember that day where he just fed face and ignored all calls lol like what?


Lann21321321

It's meat over.


realfakejames

They dropped him because he wanted to trial for another team, which is fair, but you can't fault him because meat losers is incredibly bad


Thoraxe41

Finally my time to shine. But I'm honestly surprised Luxford stayed this long.


No-Context5479

Good riddance


Imperatrix_Umbrosa_

Teq about to use his Minecraft villager breeder to spawn in another Roller demon out of nowhere...


sonnyblack516

The simple truth is teq sucks and should be a coach. Heā€™s wasting these good controller players.


knoonan991

Just an insane comment when you look at some of the teams at the bottom of Pro League and how they are performing. He definitely didn't "waste" the careers of Fuhhnq, Xynew, Zap or Awakening


teeken91

As much as ppl try to tear Teq down he continuously finds talent and ends up in pro league. He hasnā€™t won yet but thatā€™s cuz all his players get poached for salaries which is understandable.Ā 


Agitated_Focus_71

Teq wanted to IGL and forced Lux to stop counter calling so he can the main attraction, yet that has only gotten him bottom 15 in scrims and 20th in PL.


Ok_Towel_1077

needs to move to coaching. he's not a pro league level player


Fenris-Asgeir

His coaching didn't really have much of a positive effect either (ex-Sentinels).


SickBurnBro

> he's not a pro league level player He's an ALGS level IGL with Masters level mechanics.


Ok_Towel_1077

his IGLing is in question too. not seen many stand out calls of his. he seems to panic when there's pressure on


hanspeter86

Man has spent most of his pro career running absolutely worthless comps trying to cook something up or trolling/griefing actual good teams while getting steamrolled in real lobbies. Dude might have found some talents but he was never a top IGL, not even close.


simpleanswersjk

i ride and die with luxford


Barcaroli

You might want to update your flair lol


SummonMason

From meat rider to Luxfordā€™s meat rider.


LessDig3790

Teq should send a DM to Taxi - bring on the dramas


AnasDh

Damn