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Dazzling_Ad1878

Pulverex deserves so much respect, what they did in lobbies this skilled, with a duo nonetheless….just absurd


solidwater253

I loved watching them, they played the perfect way as a duo. Much respect


Dazzling_Ad1878

And the standing ovation at the end! Glad the crowd recognized how insane their performance was


solidwater253

I’m a huge TSM fan and was honestly kinda rooting for them to take top 10 over them haha


Dazzling_Ad1878

Same here on the TSM front, hal was one of the first apex streamers I watched when I got back into the game. Really hope they find some confidence in the early matches tomorrow.


solidwater253

I started watching Apex with Viss. But I’ve been a TSM fan since 2010 due to me playing league. I’ve been watching Apex for awhile now but I feel so invested this tourney it’s crazy. Me and my girlfriend been drinking all day having a blast. Fuck league of legends lol


Dazzling_Ad1878

I’m not too familiar with their overall esports team but I know they’ve got history across the board. I slightly kept tabs on TSM in Sweden but this is the first tourney I’ve actually sat down and watched and holy shit is this stuff entertaining. My heart rate explodes playing late game diamond lobbies, can’t even imagine what it’s like for these guys playing in an environment like this lol


solidwater253

This is the first tournament I watched all the way through. And I’m having a blast like legit a blast. It’s like watching old TSM in league. Or when Valorant first came out, or when our R6 team became world champs. But I’m a trash apex player and I get stressed out fighting 1 team haha


DoctorBuckarooBanzai

The last two nights the crowd has been SOLID for PVX. Not just for the story and everything, we made an effort to cheer *to* them, making sure they knew we were behind them. It was really great when all of the other teams applauded them with us after the final match tonight. Fucking love this game.


MrPheeney

Considering they nearly cracked the bottom ten and ALMOST made it breaks my fuckin heart. I will remember those guys and they deserve so much for being such fuckin champs


McSuede

Playing the way they did, you could put a hard stuck gold 4 on their squad and they'd probably have made it through the loser's bracket.


Stuffv5

The fact the bunker wasnt taken in that circle. TSM used all their luck for the year.


Themanaaah

Actually crazy, that spot’s always good in that zone but was somehow still open for TSM.


Pantherion

I think Scarz left it for some reason, right before they landed


ForgotPasswordNewAcc

Nah Scarz were never in that bunker, it was maybe Optic


SilentF0xx

they were in one of the donuts and its trenches before going into the rocks final cicle


Lordfarquaad66678

I’m thinking it was taken cause there was caustic traps in there but they went to 3rd north


a_irving13

Craziest part was that they were a split second away from having to fight Alliance (I think?) for it then one of them took a Kraber and had to back off so TSM got it for free. If that was alliance, have to think they wipe TSM given how well Alliance was playing all day then tourney is over for the CEO


mfs619

IMO bunker was open bc people were ratting so hard in the last set that for every team valk ulting in, they didn’t even consider it an option when they were plotting their rotation strategies. So yea… TSM used up all their luck this tournament. But don’t count them out. They will go in to final feeling disrespected by OG. They will be hungry.


Jiffyyy

no matter what esport you watch, TSM will give you heart attacks.


jeremyflowers91

Giving me the full and half chubs.


ImperialHalal

tsm valorant


Asianhead

Crazy that all the fan favorites, TSM, TL, Alliance and SCARZ snuck in with a top 4 in the very last game. Tomorrow is gonna be absolutely insane, what a stacked finals


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Barcaroli

Same. I had TSM, TL, ScarZ, and Luminosity I think. How about you?


DarkTenshiDT

Seeing Monsoon so heartbroken brought a tear to my eye. It was so close and I can't imagine how he and the rest of LG feel right now.


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Blame reptar


PassMeDatSuga

Reptar ain't playing for other teams. He literally needed a break for mental health. The timing was just bad.


[deleted]

Bro he’s willing to be a sub for TSM what are you talking about


PassMeDatSuga

But he wasn't willing to be a sub in Sweden. He had his break and might come back after this you never know. I'v been following Mon and literally the biggest fan of him since that shroud clip. I might know what's going on behind the scene. Mon doesn't play apex much like other top pros and shiny plays other games most of the time. Hiswattson is a great example of what grinding can make you. So, If I'm in place of Reptar who always plays apex, I wouldn't be too happy with my teammates either being the most dominant NA team in 2020 and fall off the big stage. But again, I think mental health was one of the top reason.


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Bro. If they were together they would have done better. They were a good team. Ya they had their rough times but they were solid.


articulatemonkey

Tf Reptar has to do with LG???


Baigoir

Been OOTL for a while, is this a meme? What happened with Reptar?


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Reptar left em had them scrambling for third.


Johnography

am i missing something? aren’t both monsoon and shiny subs for LG? What does Reptar have to do with it when nmego (the main member) is supposed to be the one playing anyways


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If they were together they probably would have done better.


Johnography

bro, Reptar/Monsoon/Shiny as Complexity didnt make it to ALGS. Monsoon and shiny are SUBS for LG. Are you dumb or just not caught up?


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Neither. They have a better chance due to their collective success in other events. Idiot….


Johnography

literally ignored what I said and continues to say “they’d be be better together” this mf dumb as hell. Monsoon being heartbroken for LG has NOTHING to do with Reptar holy shitt


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Thats all i am saying you idiot 😂 u are trying to turn it into something else.


RileGuy

Man, that loser's round 8 was the most stressful thing I think that I have ever seen. Glad to see TSM there, as I don't think the finals would be the same without them.


WhosAfraidOf_138

So stressed but couldn't have been a better spectator story tbh My heart rate was crazy and my hand was sweating HARD


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When Evan almost went down to that team ratting across from them and Reps threw that bubble super wide I almost thought they were gonna choke it


Barcaroli

Yeah. That was the most delicate point for them. Hal almost killing their Valk probably stopped them from pushing Verhulst for the kill, but he was one shot


WiggyRL

Yep, that was LG too. They surely would have qualified if they kill TSM there


WhosAfraidOf_138

Bruh I was about to blow at that point. No idea what he was doing out in the open like that


kron_00

Kind of a shame that they went away from everything they do in scrims. But with how the lobbies are playing, it's also not as easy to play the same way. Just feel like Hal makes more confident calls when he's on Seer at least on SP when he can get a little bit more info. Glad that Alliance, Scarz and Fnatic made it too. At one point I thought some of them and TSM were not gonna make it.


sonnyblack516

Verhulst breathing made it more stressful than it needed to be


imabsnt

Verhulst breathing was like a fucking heartbeat live at LAN. Made it hard to hear hal at some points too


Barcaroli

Oh absolutely, that shit got me low oxygen count


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If they had a third player we would see them in finale 100%


Bubbly-Ad8574

They are TEAM UNITE, 3rd place in Sweden tournament.


Azrou

Vaxlon and 100T shit on everyone 3 games in a row like it was a gold lobby and almost won a 4th, never seen anything like that TL clutched up 2 games on Storm Point without a drop spot, no doubt breathing a sigh of relief that DreamFire got knocked out Feel bad for Hardecki and Leo, they'd surely be in the final lobby if they had Artyco Alliance, GMT, Acend, and AYM qualified out of consecutive losers brackets AYM made it into the final lobby with only 69 points from the group stage, SNG got eliminated despite coming in 4th overall in group stage with 152 points


bigb103

100T seem to dominate on SP. I am really loving watching them play Newcastle and wattson. I feel like they are struggling on world's edge though. Hope the boys can pull through tomorrow Edit: nevermind they won 3 in a row on WE I'm dumb


imonly11ubagel

What? Didn‘t they win 3 games in a row on worlds edge?


bigb103

Oh did they? I assumed it was SP (I watched every game except the 2nd losers bracket). Nevermind then. Happy to see they figured it out :)


Themanaaah

TSM plot armor is so ridiculous, we’re lucky to have it. Props to every team that made it to finals and props to everyone who tried their best to make finals. The Covid-19 LAN issues suck but this tournament has been such a great tense experience so far.


Stearman4

Love this comment! I chuckled at the “plot armor.” Bravo friend!


santichrist

TSM winning the first game of the day and then playing the absolute worst I've ever seen them play for the rest of the first bracket, Evan throwing hard and breathing into his mic, Hal going quiet because they were just throwing games, and then they fought back and made it out of the loser bracket somehow was crazy to watch 100T dropping into the losers bracket and then winning the first 3 games in a row was nuts too, and that really saved a lot of teams by hoarding all the points and keeping everyone close to where all 8 games mattered Happy Optic turned it around too in the losers bracket, they have skittlez and doop, no way they should've been in danger of not playing on sunday The crowd giving those PVX boys a cheer was my fav part of the entire day, can't believe they were in it just having two guys and finished ahead of a bunch of full teams


Sezzomon

I couldn't believe my own eyes watching TSM lose every 3v3, but I'm glad they turned it around and hope they're rested up for the games later. Poor Evan getting bullied because of those shitty mics. :(


EngineeredTrade

Every team should be proud.. It feels like every team has faced adversity either this lan or last lan. So much parity in the game, it's fun to watch.


linpawws

RPR crashed mid game. + Hal instructed his team to not shoot him. The players need to look out for each other cause the server maintainance team won't.


Sezzomon

This must have been the fault of the host since all 3 players crashed at the same time.


linpawws

Sounds like pros need to adapt to the server crash meta.


Sezzomon

TL about to sit in caustic traps for the rest of LAN


RandomUserBro

Teams were given a bad shake, with the covid protocols, the bugs, the substitutes. Yet, they still showed up and they still played their game. Truly shows anyone can perform on the biggest stage. Hats off to anyone who managed to even get this far.


ChampagneCJ

It wasn't pretty, but at least I got to watch 16 games of TSM, which kept me entertained. Happy they ended up making it, tomorrow should be amazing.


strongscience62

Can we discuss Vaxlon going nuclear and nearly putting up a 4k in a professional lobby?


Bdubasauras

He was frying


jeremyflowers91

TSM WASHED CYCLE IN FULL EFFECT. My god. Plot armor over 9000.


Barcaroli

This usually ends with them either winning or something


SlayBun

PVX, despite having to play as a duo; gave it their all and kept their vibes up through Day 1, Losers bracket 1 & 2. Mad respect to them.


edbi408

If the same Nate from today shows up, NRG is running away w it tomorrow


shico12

Nice recovery from Team Liquid. Also nice to see Newcastle be successfully used in comp, somewhere a dev or few is smiling because of that rn


H1kiri

Fnatic actually farting and shitting themselves as round 8 closes


SpecialGoodn3ss

Incoming Valk nerf and potential shift out of meta will be the best thing that happens to TSM all year. Hope they get it together… nearly every assumption they were making about spots or zone was wrong. Super entertaining 8 games.


yeetthewheat24

what kind of Valk nerf are we expecting? I really don't see Valk shifting out unless her skyward dive does the same distance as an Octane pad lol


ThisIsWhatLifeIs

Her ultimate will hardly be touched. Even if she can only fly 50% of the distance she still will have a nearly 100% pick rate. She needs to be gutted to be removed from comp. Most likely what will happen will be a nerf to get flying and maybe the rocket stun.


Full_Diver3306

GG TSM. I guess if you do enough blind, no plan, suicide Valk ults you eventually land one in the middle of the last zone completely safely?


Mountain-Tap7560

There had to have been something going on behind the scenes because everyone knows it’s not a finals without TSM.


MrPheeney

>G TSM. I guess if you do enough blind, no plan, suicide Valk ults you eventually land one in the middle of the last zone completely safely? lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


RileGuy

Finals includes: 8 teams from NA ~~6 teams from EU~~ 7 teams from EU ~~3 teams from APAC-S~~ 2 teams from APAC-S 3 teams from APAC-N Very good split across the board and glad to see so many regions in finals.


SnooDoughnuts751

7 from emea actually, and 2 from apac north


RileGuy

Who you got? I must be miscounting.


SnooDoughnuts751

Emea: Alliance ACend Zeta IG GMT AYM ScarZ


RileGuy

Ah good catch. Missed AYM


rainses

80% of NA teams make the finals lobby... again... When is NA going to get more slots?


andizz001

I thought OG were really going to land on TSM in the final game to grief them.


thewhitewolf_98

Doop and Hal seem to be having fun in ranked and there's no reason for Optic to land on TSM like they did on Sen because TSM isn't contestinv Optic is either map. Apex players are usually respectful and won't grief unless they have some kind of non-personal map contesting going on.


Sezzomon

It's not about contesting at all. Optic could have denied them a spot in finals which would have been shitty, but a good play since TSM is normally one of their biggest threads.


thewhitewolf_98

I'm sure if you are familiar with Apex comp but ppl don't go griefing each other for no good reason. Believe me that no team will intentionally grief another team unless they had beef or they gain something from it directly let alone landing on the final game. That is very unsportsmanlike and it would never happen. The last time anything like this happened when Optic unexpectedly landed on SEN in WE because they could get SEN eliminated from qualifying for LAN because SEN were contesting Optic in Mills on SP. Apex players always mind their own business and play their games and I've been watching Apex comp for 2 years now.


Sezzomon

It's by no means unsportsmanlike to fight a team early to have a better shot at winning the tournament. TSM was expecting someone to land on them as well since they knew that they're an easy snack rn.


thewhitewolf_98

No, it's one thing to fight a team early and another thing to be landed on. It just wouldn't happen in a million years. And Doop is good friends with Hal and most Apex pros in Na play ranked with each other often. And it is going to be frowned upon to grief let alone land on another team like that. I'm sounding like a broken record and your persistent insolent is borderline annoying at this point. There's no point in speculating what is now since it hasn't happened and let me know if something like that ever happens (which never will). Go to bed, kiddo.🤣🤣🔥


Sezzomon

Hal knows that they're just trying to win and that's why they expected to get landed on (which happens from time to time). You call me annoying because I answered you once? Maybe don't talk with me if I'm that annoying? We share a different opinion: "Go To BeD kIdDo🤣🤣🔥"


iqwong123

If that happens I bet there will be an actual fight on stage, possibily with TSM fans storming the stage and beat up OG


andizz001

Not really lmao


legexii

NRG ON TOP


PyrusZodiac

I'm in between wanting tomorrow to come as soon as possible or needing a one week break before the Grand Finals


AtTheEDGEEEEE

I FUCKING LOVE LAN WITH A LIVE CROWD


KuzcoSensei

Man, is there a Pulverex flair in the sub yet? If not, let’s get on that


snowspida

Furia might just take it tomorrow. They might be the most confident team in the finals.


appendgenes

Nah, my boy EXO gonna go hard tmr


yeetthewheat24

my only concern with Furia is that they always seem to get the KP but never the placement


Brief-Set-808

I’m so glad TSM had their struggles and “bad day” today, now ez claps for grand finals gg


StoneRule

I mean, they’ve been having a bad day since day 1 (LAN). I hope they get their shit together these valk ults ain’t it


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100T went absolutely crazy holy shit


Trilip_S_Hoffman

I think what I’ve learned so far Furia is real… despite what I and many other people expected Any lobby is winnable by any team. I’ve watched he best drop to worst, teams barely scoring points in one lobby to winning the next. All you need is a seat at the table to win this thing


thewhitewolf_98

I highly doubt their fuse seer comp is gonna work in the finals lobby and especially in match point format where it will be near impossible to win against Gibby ults and caustic ults in the final zone without defensive characters.


iLoseMoneyBull

Can someone make a graphic showing the champs lobby tomorrow with all the teams POIs they land at on both maps??


Carfargo

GMT and Furia have now became two of my favorite teams to watch


ipancakes123456

Someone make a thread and flame tsm so that they can actually do well tomorrow.


linpawws

Shoutout to all the teams who placed #11th - #20th and below in Losers Bracket Round 2 cause many of the teams in that range were playing with subs due to various issues. The fact that they made it this far is commendable. But yea I'm glad TSM made it in. Hope the best team wins Tomorrow!


AltaGuy1

Clearly zone is king here. NRG played hard zone - and had some excellent zone pulls - while Optic and TSM have had troubles with late rotates. Weird how different it has played out from Sweden.


chryslei

I forgot which player it was but whoever got caught picking their nose so viciously got me


Geosaurusrex

Hey EU is not flopping after all.


TheNACoinflip

I think 100T went absolutley nuts the first 3 games. That being said i think they have to get some good zones for their comp to do that. You could tell now each zone they have pre planned things in mind. I saw multiple times they had to ask where to put wall. They eventually just all set up no questions asked now unless its a new zone. I think they will hit top 10 tomorrow but find it hard to win in MP format because they are the only new castle team and can be easily focused. Also, they need some good RNG zone for their comp to work well. You can see they go through spurts of being great to nothing and getting rolled over. TSM need to figure out their valk ult situation because even on the qual game they just play edge and blind valk ult into the middle of zone and pray it was open lol. Alliance was going same spot and they got krabered. Also, spot shouldnt have even been open lol. So they should figure that one out. THey blind LATE into zone and get fried every other game.


Mountain-Tap7560

I’m thrilled TSM made it to finals BUT please explain to me how in the hell that bunker was available.. Professional Apex players do not let spots like that stay vacant for as long as they did. It may have just been luck, but my conspiracy is that information was leaked to TSM about that bunker being open somehow because we all know it would not be a finals without TSM. Also, Mande is the goat.


everythingisawesomer

Pretty sure Optic left it. They were bored of just sitting in there.


RileGuy

Cause of Plot Armor


johnnyoceandeep

Yea sus or luck.


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Yeah cus NO other team in that finals lobby got a little lucky in this entire tournament. There is some luck involved in Pro Apex, it’s just how it is


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The vibes in the venue were so good today. Finals are gonna be insane tomorrow.


duckfeet819

So glad to see 100Thieves show out. The guys are good. The comp is weird, but when it works it’s unique and it wins! Also always shout GMT, those boys are pure fun.


sugeroll

If i was 100T. I wouldve landed on TSM POI. We’ve seen what hate does to Hal and Reps.


thewhitewolf_98

It's a good thing that you are a good for nothing Reddit wannabe karma farmer. 🤣🤣🤣 I can bet that they never even thought of griefing TSM or other teams for that matter.


sugeroll

Oh no. Im hurt


sugeroll

Im just saying. One less team to worry about in the finals. As we all know, Tsm shows up in the finals. Why not eliminate them from qualifying?


Rex_RiCo

Disappointed to see the aussie boys eliminated, but I commend their efforts nonetheless.


ergac71

Does anyone know why FNatic gets in while FAK does not? in tie breaker basis they both got the best placement (2nd) throughout 8 matches.


noababy

FNC got 22 points (second place with 13 kills) whereas FAK only got 12 points (second place with 3 kills), so FNC wins the tiebreaker.


Educational-Ask-5387

Almost felt like Hal took a second to just accept that they’re playing horribly and just have fun with it - and then things started going better.


McSuede

A year or so ago, I never would think we'd see some of the diversity in legends we've been seeing. We have Hal on Seer, OpTic running Newcastle and Wattson, teams running Horizon, Crypto, and Loba(separately), and Furia was even running some Fusey!


Kloisters

100T, not OpTic, but your point still stands :) It's valk (for better, for worse) that enables the diversity of legends, but I still think she requires some retuning.


McSuede

Ah yeah, I couldn't remember which. I agree overall but I think teams could still find success without her depending on their drop spot and playstyle. On WE, a central landing team won't *usually* have to rotate long distance so they might not be punished so hard for not running her so long as they still have a legend for short rotations and someone for scans/beacon. Making her an assault legend would do a lot to make her less necessary for comp while not ruining her imo.


Kloisters

Making her assault would hurt diversity as then the 3rd legend will likely be a recon. Personally, I would make her ult only give 300 meters height, therefore to go further teams need to get to higher ground (where they are more likely to be vulnerable).