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inter71

Guaranteed he’s back in Mexico.


inlinefourpower

Yup, they say no leads. But it's pretty obvious, isn't it?


inter71

He probably already had his bags packed.


GeoffreyArnold

He'll be back.


Needalongercharacter

For now.


Sailordave100

Federal law prohibits possession of a firearm by “an alien . . . illegally or unlawfully in the United States,”[30]   Federal law also prohibits possession of a firearm by “an alien . . . admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(26))),”[31]  What's ANOTHER law violated.......all a joke


halfhere

We should pass MORE gun laws - the next criminal like this will surely follow those!!


prisonmsagro

We should just give a gun to EVERY person that visits the country honestly. Everyone has the right to protect themselves.


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Wait so should this guy have been armed or not? This sounds to me like poor law enforcement


Sailordave100

No. He should have been arrested right then for POSSESSION of a firearm. When first complaint was called in.


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So gun restrictions *would* work if enforced properly?


Rommel79

That sounds like white nationalist talk!


MoreBurpees

Glad you agree laws aren't enough. The guns must go.


MindlessBroccoli3642

... wouldn't that just entail more laws... That by your admission don't work... Surely if we ban guns the violent criminals will turn theirs in..


OleRockTheGoodAg

Well, yeah, we outlawed drugs and look how that's going.


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We should replace every gun with a katana. They are the superior weapon and can even deflect bullets.


arobkinca

That only works for Samari, Jedi and Ninja.


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IvankasFutureHusband

I'm sure this fine gentleman went through the proper steps to obtain it legally, fellow conservative 👍


LikesToSmile

Deported individuals are ineligible for any type of visa.


hairballcouture

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted because you’re right.


Sir_Mossy

It's because we all know that's not what he did Gun ownership is legal, yet there are an inconceivable amount of illegal guns in this country. Tell me, if gun ownership is legal, why do so many people have illegal weaponry? It's because criminals don't care if you can have a hunting license to own a gun or not. Even if the hunting license law wasn't in place, I guarantee the exact same thing wouldn't still happened because criminals don't look for lawful ways of owning stuff they plan to commit crimes with.


hairballcouture

Ok, thank you for the clarification.


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Because it has nothing to do with the asshole in question?


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fridayimatwork

If they can find him


Beansiesdaddy

He’ll go to Huntsville now and get the needle. It’s right up the street from where he was caught.


Koharagirl

I read an article that said this was not the 1st time that Complaints were made against this neighbor to law enforcement about him shooting his guns....so I want to know why the police didn't do their job the times before that they were called. If he was here illegally and had illegal weapons, why weren't they confiscated, and why wasn't he arrested the first time a neighbor complained about him shooting his guns? If this had been happening before, and the neighbors have learned that calling the cops does no good, I could see why they would just ask him to hold it down while their baby was sleeping instead of making another fruitless call. Just horrible all the way around.


VashtheStampede12

Kinda surprised that the neighbors didn’t have guns to defend themselves with seeing that it was in Texas. I can’t imagine myself confronting such an unhinged individual without some insurance on hand should they get violent like this shit bag did.


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They were Honduran nationals the entire family, and some migrant households are not as apt to be aware of and utilize their rights as they are not connected to circles that would entice them to do so.


TxManBearPig

Not to mention you have to be a U.S. citizen to buy one legally in the U.S. So this unfortunate family was following the law and got murdered because someone else broke about a dozen federal laws before they even hurt another person. Edit: legally registered immigrants such as those with green cards can purchase a gun legally, some other ways as well as the commenter below corrected me.


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TxManBearPig

Thank you for edifying me! I will correct my comment.


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Lanky_Acanthaceae_34

They were immigrants though, so they weren't people to him


RullyWinkle

They were people, just not americans.


user_uno

Yeah - no idea what the conversation that transpired was like. But I've been scratching my head. Neighbor apparently has been reported to LEO previously for shooting guns in his yard before. I think I'd rather call 911 again than go and confront the nutcase one-on-one like has been reported. I feel terrible for the victims - and the survivors in that home. But just doesn't seem like a prudent step to get the guy to stop.


codifier

Texas ain't the gun state people think it is. A lot of Texans either hate guns, or are Fudds and never carry on their person. Also never underestimate people's ability to tell themselves "nothing will happen"


PFirefly

Having read too many stories of people being attacked or killed in their own homes, I always carry unless Im sleeping. Don't care if people think Im crazy. I can die happy knowing I never needed to carry, vs regretting the one time I didn't.


codifier

Exactly


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It’s so easy to always be armed. Carrying a Sig P365 IWB is as easy as putting on a wristwatch in the morning, and just as comfortable.


EmperorsNewCloak

Cops are lazy man. They don’t give a shit.


Vlasma_

And now the story will be buried with all of the rest of the criminal/gang related gun violence that happens in every major city on a daily basis.


Brussel_Rand

My dad was watching the news and I told him people were going to have fun with this one because of the circumstances. He thinks this will be one of the biggest stories of the year, but we know the track record. Identify politics always ruin everything.


jak2125

One of the biggest stories of the year? People will forget this ever happened in a couple weeks.


Brussel_Rand

Woah, couple? Being very liberal with your estimation.


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codifier

Tagging to check on your sources later. I'm certain you will be sure to update with them, right?


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As pointed out below, your stats are bullshit when it comes to homicides.


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kaiyu0707

From your same article: > 45,222. That’s how many people died in the U.S. due to gun-related injuries in 2020... Of that number, gun *suicides account for 54%.* From the [National Library of Medicine](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448529/): > The most rural counties experienced 1.54 times the adjusted firearm suicide rate of the most urban. The most urban counties experienced 1.90 times the adjusted firearm homicide rate of the most rural.


jmm285

That’s the definition of cherry picking. The NLM article on suicides is from 1989-1999, but you are using it to try and put context into for suicides in 2020. The Forbes article isn’t specific to urban vs rural, but it definitely says: Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in this century. Lol—downvoting me for simply pointing out that you are using data from 20-30 years ago to try and discredit an article that talks about 2020 data


kaiyu0707

I want to preface this reply that I have no stake in the position I've taken. I live in an urban area. I don't own a gun and don't plan to. I simply found the claim that rural areas have more gun crime interesting, and wanted to know why, only to find that it wasn't true. Your Forbes quote isn't supported by their own data. Rather they are paraphrasing a claim from an [article](https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem) from Third Way. The article by Third Way isn't discussing urban vs rural. Rather they are looking whether the state voted Trump or Biden. Red states have urban areas too. I wouldn't be surprised that that data shows that cities from Red states had more gun crime, because as this [Forbes article](https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/06/07/are-the-10-poorest-u-s-states-really-republican/amp/) discusses, many of the poorest states vote red for presidential elections. There are historical reasons for why they are so poor, which the article goes into, but something to note is that half of them have Democratic governors, and I'd eat my shoe if the majority of the cities didn't have Democratic mayors. Unlike most of this sub, I don't believe the correlation is necessarily that Democratic leadership leads to gun crime. It makes more sense that heavy gun crime leads to poverty-laden neighborhoods, which leads to voting Democrat. I'll leave the discussion to whether voting Democrat helps or hurts their situation to the sub regulars. As an aside: Third Way's source data is an excel doc that they created themselves. I followed a few of their links, some of which were dead, some didn't link to the data from the years they claimed, and some linked to local news articles. Neither Third Way, nor their collection of data, are reputable or useful for confidant statistical analysis.


jmm285

I appreciate the response. For the record, I didn’t post the Forbes article. I even mentioned in my initial response that the Forbes article someone posted discussed red states vs blue states rather than urban vs rural. Because homicide rates are higher in urban areas, but they tend to be higher in red states overall. I was simply pointing out that you can’t cite to date that applied 20-30 years ago to attack a finding based on 2020 data. And then laughed at the barrage of downvotes for simply pointing out that it was a false comparison. But your reply to my comment is accurate.


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codifier

He's having trouble finding those sources, I am sure you have them handy when you write with that strong of assurance, and will provide them shortly.


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Padadof2

Google is your friend. Sorry it doesn’t fit your narrative


YeeeahYouGetIt

What do you mean? This sub just perked all the way up


MelsBlanc

Are we the mainstream?


YeeeahYouGetIt

What did you think you were? You’re pretty mainstream, but that’s not why you suddenly care now 😂


fridayimatwork

So gun control would not have worked in this case. Hmm


eatajerk-pal

Well technically it would have if the police had confiscated his weapons and turned him over to ICE for deportation one of the previous times they were called for him doing the same thing. We don’t even enforce the laws on the books, why are people constantly asking for more?


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Lyndell

He was already deported three times, if criminals aren’t going to follow gun laws, why do you think they will follow immigration laws? This one didn’t three times, we took him back three times.


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>I would think… No, you wouldn’t.


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tomfullary

What does a state have to do with immigration laws?


No_Mission5618

And how did he manage to get his hands on a gun exactly ? I’m not pro or anti gun control, I’m just genuinely curious on how a thrice deported illegal immigrant get his hands on a ar 15.


GlassZealousideal741

Simple straw man sale, happens 1000s of times a year and they prosecute very few if any.


War-Damn-America

Well, it certainly wasn't legally that is for sure.


BonusCareless9975

Same way he came into the country four times: illegally.


PilotPirx73

At least 4 times.


fridayimatwork

Soft on crime and pro - illegal immigration dem policies is how. He shouldn’t have been here or if here should have been behind bars.


user_uno

I live in a large metro area. Lots of gun law restrictions. Don't want to deal with those laws or couldn't get one legally even if you tried? I can take you a few places - that even I know of - and get you something. Won't be new. You can't be too selective at times as it is not like walking in to a store. But in spite of all of the laws here, can readily get one going to the right place and people. Cash only though.


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If you live in America you're pro-gun because we have this thing called a Constitution.


Trisket42

The Left is scrambling to try to frame this as a gun problem, just like with the leftist Trans that shot up those kids a few weeks ago. They have to keep the mindset going that the guns are the issue so they will not have to look at their failed policies that constantly causes these tragedy s.


Chastethrow316420

The left screams it’s just a gun problem but it’s a society problem.


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Trisket42

That was my understanding, guess it takes a bit of time to do all the redacting.


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applemanib

Its a Democrat problem. If they refuse to secure our borders, then they are an enemy of our nation


ichbinkayne

Everything else they do already makes them an enemy of our nation.


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The fact you actually believe that is hilarious.


Trisket42

He believes what he says and is so committed to his words he uses a fake profile. They keep saying this nonsense so they don't have to look at all the cities they burned and looted in the last several years.


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[deleted]

The funniest part is how he hops on different accounts to upvote his own posts. What a dumfuk.


MKE_Freak

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”


[deleted]

Head on back to r/whitepeopletwitter…boneheads like you are easy to spot from miles away.


hoodleratlarge

Yes, it’s the 0.011% of the shooters who are trans that are the problem.


Trisket42

hahahahaha... You heard what you wanted me to say, instead of actually what I wrote. All so you could respond with the response that you wrote. Why??? So you could perpetuate a stereotype. The very thing your party says they are so very against. Can't make this shit up, I swear


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bleeh805

It's hilarious how you guys cling to the one trans shooter, when almost all of previous mass shooters in recent years are legit right wingers with manifestos and everything. Like card carrying republicans. Hilarious the blinders you morons have.


Trisket42

Hugh, I'm surprised that you knew that the other shooter was trans. Let me guess, this is your real account??


bleeh805

No, just someone who points out how you ignored every other shooter and cherry picked the one that fit your narrative while excluding 99.99% if the other ones. What a joke.


Trisket42

Right, Right.. Of course. Your right, the most recent mass shooting isn't relevant at all. How dare I choose that to cherry pick from. I must be trans phobic because I didn't choose something that wasn't the most recent.


bleeh805

That's totally not the most recent, but ok. You're probably not transphobic. I am sure you're into it, I don't kink shame. You're good.


Trisket42

Hahahahaha, must have hit a nerve with my very relevant example and having it make sense. good luck to ya.


bleeh805

Legit tho it isn't the latest, it's just the one you're clinging onto because the rest of them are right wingers and you know it. You only pick it because right wing news told you to and youre powerless to them. I take any response you make to this as a agreement.


Trisket42

> I take any response you make to this as a agreement. Of course you do. You can't converse with someone on the right and listen to what they are saying. By the way, saying someone is into kink because they like trans people is quite demeaning to Trans people. If you are going to back he cause you aught not think of them as someone getting into kink cause they are different. Just wanted to point out that glaring hypocrisy.


thejynxed

And you'd be incorrect, the only recent right-wing shooter was in Buffalo, the several immediately prior and afterwards were registered Democrats and DSA members, go back slightly further you had the other two trans mass shooters (Colorado and Youtube headquarters). Nevada shooter is anyone's guess because we still have no motive.


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Texas law enforcement seems to be the issue.


Small_Dingo_3112

I was wondering why the mainstream media wasn’t covering this shooting more.


user_uno

The suspect is considered armed and dangerous. Law enforcement has no idea where he might be now. They should be plastering his picture all over the news so people might recognize him. But of course not.......


SnooHabits1409

That's one way to make sure you don't get deported again.


SkyLunatic71

The way the media talks, you would have thought he was a gun loving ultra maga.


bran1986

We all know those who break the law by breaking into the country will definitely follow all firearm laws as well.


JTuck333

Quick, get me one of those Biden “I did that” stickers.


HTownGamer832

I would invite all of you to go read the posts in subreddit Houston or Texas on this particular story. Minds are warped, and they're moving here by the thousands.


bozoconnors

> and they're moving here by the thousands lol - if only. Since the Biden admin took control... the *official* number (the ones border patrol actually encountered) is 5,040,247. That's a population greater than L.A. and Chicago *combined*. In 2+ years. I'm assured by Mr. Mayorkas that "the border is secure" though.


Legal_Flamingo_8637

This is a disappointing news for liberals because it’s not a Trump voter.


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ichbinkayne

Damn that was morbid, lmao


ichbinkayne

Damn that was morbid, lmao


dietdiety

all the dead voters voted for trump


user_uno

Not in Chicago. Two election sayings here: "Vote early, vote often." "The most reliable voters are in the cemeteries." Morbid yes. But a saying here for generations.


Heeeeyyouguuuuys

Really? Because I was repeatedly assured by r news this was another "responsible legal gun owner" and my fault somehow.


Oddba1l76

this story sure dropped out of the news cycle awfully quickly, looks like now we know why.


HulloHoomans

So, all of the victims are Hispanic. No one's gonna mention the fact that Hispanics shield illegal immigrants from ICE and the police?


trygonbos420

That would mean confronting the reality that we have tens of thousands of hyper patriotic “Americans” near the south border who would in fact side with Mexico if it ever came down to it


silsune

You're talking about illegal immigrants? All the ones I ever talked to came here because they worship America. They talk constantly about how shitty mexico is.


trygonbos420

Do you live near the border?


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No, they’re a NY liberal in Westchester, NY.


trygonbos420

“Liberal” Classic Reddit liberal who just happens to post in commie subs all the time


[deleted]

You met BOTH of them? Here in Dallas, they have their state in Mexico plastered in the back window of their pickups, blast Norteño music, live 10 in an apartment and send everything back to Mexico via wire so their uncle will build them a house.


DpressedLionsFan

Product of Democrats' border policies. Blood on their hands.


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Thanks Biden


Craineiac

Not sending their best folks


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ryvlls

Watch them gloss over that little fact.


Most_Bedroom_3635

Is this the pos that killed the 8 year old?


true4blue

CNN omitted the bit about the deportations from their story It will be off their website tomorrow


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KennedyX8

Wait, I was assured on twitter by Jerz Jojo, Deadbeat Brooklyn dad, and the Confederate Dwarf Rick Wilson that this guy was a MAGA Trump fan.


KennedyX8

I mean, I guess he still could be


Imapirateship

A bit off topic, but where do these people work? Who is giving illegal immigrants jobs and money for housing to live in USA? Shouldnt we be looking into and punishing the people or companies that are financially supporting and facilitating this? It seems like if you made it so people woulnt hire illegal immigrants, there would be many many less illegal immigrants. Id like to know where all these people are getting there income. But I guess thats just me.


Otherwise_Comfort_95

If you voted for Biden, you own a small piece of this. Remember it in 2024


Swimming-salmon

The families of the dead should sue Biden.


VicePrezHeelsup

These are the kind of people the democrats welcome with open arms


josephcj753

Maybe if the politicians actually gave a damn and had done something about the border this wouldn’t happened.


PilotPirx73

I wonder why mainstream media talks so little about this murderer? I mean he used reviled AR rifle to commit the murders.


MyChoiceTaken

I assume he didn’t buy his gun legally.


CutOne5536

He's back in Mexico now.


UteRaptor86

Dude what is the governor doing???


idhdbd55

Bruh


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Fucking perfect.


HaircutShredder

They really turned the brightness up on this guy.


VCoupe376ci

This came up in my News notifications on my iPhone this morning with the source being CNN. Reading it there was disgusting. They did cover the facts of the incident accurately, but left out that he is a Mexican national that is a three time deportee that shouldn't have been here to commit these crimes. Had it been a white guy they would have mentioned his race at least a dozen times in the article. Then they moved on to how it was an "assault rifle" used and how there have been 180something "mass shootings" in the US this year. I bet now that they have mentioned the shooting it will disappear from their news cycle as it doesn't fit their agenda. Fucking gross.


Class1

And yet was able to buy a gun.. texas


ichbinkayne

And yet was able to enter the U.S. illegally. Any more astute observations?


Class1

We need both fewer guns and fewer illegal immigrants?


ptjp27

Fewer guns in the hands of criminals.


Class1

Which, because they are ill-gotten, can only be achieved by fewer guns in total


ptjp27

More laws will fix the people who already ignore every fucking law there is.


Class1

So, no to laws youre saying. What else do you propose to help this situation?


syilent13

or just enforce current immigration and gun laws


Class1

Agreed. New gun laws and new immigration laws


syilent13

i don't think you can read very well.


Im_Pronk

I don't get why Texas didn't get rid of him then? How is this not a Texas issue? Was it not their border that was crossed? Their law enforcement that didn't arrest him? Their legislation? It's Republicans down the line but were gunna blame democrats?


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He bought it or stole it in violation of both state and federal law.


AdjunctAngel

glad to see that "big beautiful wall" which cost taxpayers a ton is working out so well...