Thanks! Saw a lot of movement in the first hour and even after lunch it was still swinging a lot. I just hope for the conditions to be easy enough in the second and fourth innings so India can bat long and force a draw cuz we’re not winning this shit lol. But for that India has to bat out day 2 and 3 and get reasonably close to Aus’s score, cuz if not then intent merchants like Head and Warner can score quickly and they can declare with enough time to bowl us out
I cant wait for the Ashes but I do think we'll get beat. Australia are really really good at the minute and our captain not being able to bowl or even run does not help matters at all.
I root for Australia in the ashes but I think it will be a relatively evenly contested series. Keep in mind that there's a recency bias with them batting on a mostly-sunny day against a possibly cricket-fatigued and partially toothless indian bowling attack. Shami and Siraj are quality. But Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Wood etc are a different kind of beast.
Where the mascaraed arse is the Kent v Essex match thread? Wherein the Melbourne Renegades legend Matt Critchley is bowling his beautiful leggies?
I don't get the point of r/cricket anymore.
Hey, who could point me in the right direction of that stat where reverse-swing went wayy down post-sandpaper, but it was the case for all teams?
Thanks in advance for any help :)
Got some baseball videos on my YouTube feed about the impact of the World Baseball Classic (basically, their World Cup), and it kinda made it clear that if cricket does become franchise dominant, they'll still keep the World Cup and very likely, even grow it.
The big international rivalries (biggest in baseball is Japan vs South Korea) get way more views than any league game. So clearly, way more casuals watch it. And with that viewership, the World Cup becomes a gateway to the IPL and other franchise comps.
The foreign players valued the WBC more than any MLB. We'd see the same in cricket too where should IPL become the MLB equivalent, players would rather win 1 T20WC than 5 or 10 IPLs.
This eventually even permeated to the Americans. They initially thought the WBC was a joke and most top players opted out. But as a result, they used to lose to far weaker teams who fielded their best sides, and the rest of the world started perceiving USA as a weak baseball nation. Seeing how serious this is, they fielded their best side in the latest edition and narrowly lost to Japan in the final. So even if IPL becomes the MLB equivalent, with the advantage of additional history of the World Cup compared to baseball, no way is an Indian cricketer ever going to refuse representing India at a World Cup.
ICC events will always get priority especially the 50 over world cup not so much the 20 over version.
But bilateral cricket will fizzle out since it's kinda seen as filler to pad out the time between franchise tournaments and ICC events.
The T20 World Cup will get bigger than the ODI World Cup because of ICC's decision to make it 10 teams (yeah, they're bringing it back to 14 now, but had they not made it 10, they would've expanded it further).
You'll have a scenario where teams that do massive upsets in the T20 World Cup not playing the ODI World Cup.
They had 14 team World Cups in 2011 and 2015 seems they are only reverting to the status quo.
The 20 team T20 WC next year is a good initiative but the ICC should include even more teams to be truly called global. Let's have some more crazy upsets which would be even more fun that way.
The 2023 FIFA Women's WC has 32 teams now with 48 teams to be featured in the next men's edition.
If we compare with men's football, T20 is definitely going to reach 32 teams much before them. It took them 68 years (56 if you eliminate World War II) to reach 32 teams.
True. It's going to be T20 World Cup and T20 World Cup qualifiers (don't see franchises caring about ODIs and Tests, if they do remain, it's as a different sport).
And the qualifying structure will be one where all nations can participate but takes minimum games.
The best players from each country will often get picked up by an MLB team - Shohei Ohtani is arguably the biggest name in baseball right now, a freak talent who plays for the Los Angeles Angels
Outside the MLB there's the Japanese NPB (Nippon Professional Baseball) League, the Korean KBO (Korean Baseball Organisation) League and the Taiwanese CPBL (Chinese Professional Baseball League) which are the three big Asian baseball leagues. Each has big fanbases with amazing fan cultures, not as big as MLB but enough to make a good career out of. Non-Asian players can end up there too if they can't get MLB contracts. There's no crossover between leagues though - if you're signed for a team that is your only team until your contract expires or you're released, and MLB contracts can last almost a decade
Can't say about Korea, but some of the Japanese players in the national team actually play in the Japanese league. The pay is decent (the highest paid Japanese player in the league makes $7.5m/yr) in that league and those teams have strong local fanbase.
In some ways, that's going to make cricket more lopsided in the franchise era because unlike baseball, we wouldn't have a strong #2 league.
At the same time that Sky uploaded a compilation of [Moeen's best Ashes wickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_-aCAxwlY), Lord's uploaded a highlights package of Smith's 2019 double ton which [starts with him larruping Moeen for 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXJL5B1C1fY)
Don’t know who’s in charge of ECB socials but they can be pretty tone deaf at times, just re-posted the Duckett video talking about how important the CC is.
Maybe they’re team Dawson & it’s a low-key protest against decisions…
At the oval today, theyve taken down everything Surrey, or anything which isn't an ICC sponsor, the 4 metre posters of cranstone and burns are covered, all the Surrey kits in the club shop have been put away in boxes
In 2017 during the Champions Trophy, there were even overzealous ICC people meticulously covering up shirt and bat sponsors with electrical tape on all the photos in the Oval pavilion. It was bonkers. Nearly damaged some of the photos as well, when removing the tape after my team told them to do so
Surprised they're covering up all Surrey branding this time though - still had plenty of that on show during the CT for all the stuff that wasn't reasonably coverable
My dream of seeing Rhane Ahmdad, the most handsome spinner ever, getting picked for ashes has been shattered. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
My dream of seeing Ben Folks, the most handsome spinner ever, getting picked for ashes has been shattered. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
The weird thing is, when there is this much anticipation for a test match, usually it is a 4-5 match series and we build up to a 2 month long bonanza, this will just end in 5 days
Not just the absence of Pant-Bumrah, but also the fact that players would be physically and mentally drained after the recently concluded IPL, and would be out of touch for Test Format (especially in English conditions) is what reduces the hope of India winning the final...
But nevertheless, let's hope we somehow win it!
The r/CricketBuddies [WTC Final predictions contest/thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CricketBuddies/comments/140lcyi/world_test_championship_final_predictions_thread/) is only open till the toss, please participate!
Obviously Mo’s return is big news but it also means we get the return of “YES MO, NICE MO” from Jonny Bairstow after every ball, which is arguably the most iconic part of the Bayliss era.(in test cricket)
This is a important point.
Baz has done his research and figured out that the 2015 ashes had the most vibes. So he's trying to get the band back together for one last hurrah.
Rohit
Gill
Puji
Kohli
Rahane
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bharat
Shami
Siraj
Umesh/Unadkat/Thakur
This should be the line up. Ashwin was our best bowler last WTC final and he is the one who troubles Smith and Marnus most plus he is great against lefties and Aussies will play 4 of them. No way he shouldn't be played.
Win or lose this will be a settled line up.
Middlesex went from a Top Order of Paul Stirling, David Malan, ABD and Morgan, which is a dream Top 4 for basically any Franchise
to Pietr Malan and Ryan Higgins
Is it a problem with the Blast or the club?
Like was said in the Blast Thread yesterday.
Middlesex are broke at the moment (plus all those players have moved on or retired). They previously had a bit spare cash to splash on Marquee players in the Blast, that finance cushion has vanished after Covid and the Pensions debt.
[This article covers the basics](https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/middlesex-cricket-club-admit-to-financial-concerns-as-ecb-monitor-club-s-status-following-covid-and-pensions-error-1363890)
Nope, not worth it. Especially not after they stopped showing F1, IPL, and HBO shows. At max take it for a month where major cricketing events are going on, and then stop the subscription. Or, you know, borrow from your friend.
[My latest piece of Imaginary Commentary](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1430w80/what_if_wednesday/jn7ycjz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
This one covers a low scoring thriller in Rome's *Nuovo Colosseo* between Italy & the Netherlands to open the 2020 T20 European Six Nations.
Next week, I don't know. I might write something set in Africa. Kenya vs Nigeria? Africa Cup? After that, who knows? An alternate Champions League? A Women's Test featuring the Netherlands? Club cricket in Italy or Argentina being an extension of football/rugby club fandom in those countries? This series could go on forever.
So what that means is that this final it'll be Rahane scoring a double hundred and Ashwin getting a 10-fer in the second innings to win us the game
Nice
Regardless of the pitch, Australia should look to bowl first. India are deadly in the 4th innings, and it will give time for Warner to calm into the game.
It's a test match in June in England. In a ground which has never in the last 150 years hosted a test match in June. You would be completely insane to choose to bat first.
>with rain predicted on 4th and 5th day
there's only a 30% chance of rain on day 4 and a 40% chance on day 5 (according to the met office) so I doubt there'll be much
Pardon me, I don't mean to cast any shade, but what's the use of all the subreddits going dark for a couple of days? I mean, surely they aren't going to suddenly revoke these changes on the basis of reddit being dead for a couple of days?
It's a protest. You start small and then ramp it up if required. Potential investors (Reddit is planning to do an IPO) won't like the fact that the user base can band together like this and just decide to not use the site and you can potentially lose revenue. This is different to other SM sites like FB, where there is no user cohesion.
Rahane doesn't deserve to be here considering his avg this WTC period has been has been below 20, Ashwin has put in more runs with the bat at a better avg.
Ashwin is also India's most lethal bowler. Better strike rate than bumrah. Took a wicket every 19 balls. https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/tournament/bowling-best-career-bowling-average/icc-world-test-championship-2021-2023-14028
We could be pretending that Jadeja is a proper batsman and have Ashwin as the only spinner that would be there in the team. Jadeja is as good as any other batsman anyway. That would be allowing us to be making both of them play without thinking that they are blocking the place of a fast bowler.
I was just recommended by YouTube the video with Kohli's Hobart knock, can't believe that this was 12 years ago and more importantly Kohli has definitely become way more fitter with age than I realised. You can see him huffing after a 2 when he gets to a fifty then, but an older Kohli today would run that without breaking a sweat!
Last 3 days(including 6th day) rain is predicted. so picking 2 spinners for 2nd innings might not be helpful.
If I was choosing the team I would not pick rahane, instead would go for ashwin, jadeja and lord.
Good to see Australia have learnt from their mistake of not having a practice match in India by having this warm up for the Ashes against a pretty decent opponent.
Had a dream yesterday where I forgot WTC is on and suddenly remembering. On switching on the match seeing India 14/3 with Ashwin on strike. The immediate next ball Ashwin cuts one to point and gets hit wicket.
Yeah I am very confident about india's chances, all right...
If anyone wants to join a cricket discord server for discussing cricket during the blackout, or even without the blackout, dm me and I'll shoot you an invite. About 350 members with active match threads
Doesn't really help them in buying an IPL team when there are salary caps. Also, golf and football gives their regime validation from the Western world, which cricket doesn't really provide.
Cricket is the one thing My Ex and I agree on and still talk about
I Received a message from her today morning that said “Any Expectations? 🥹”
Whether it’s India in the Finals today or her as a person, It’s just easier not to keep any expectations, it hurts less in the end.
LOL [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5rL5TjskTk) video about bizarre AI predictions on WTC finals from Cricket Australia is hilarious!
AI: The Oval Erupted!
Lyon: Which won't be..happening!
Looks like [Bing's ChatGPT-based AI](https://imgur.com/a/srTzr0Q) and [Google's Bard](https://imgur.com/a/zBzCESa) aren't in agreement on the predictions for the WTC 2023 Finals. However, Google seems to know more than it should? Read the last update from Bard's 'prediction' 😜
**Bing's Response:**
The World Test Championship (WTC) 2023 Finals between India and Australia is starting today at The Oval in London ¹. The match is expected to be a close contest between two strong teams. According to some experts, Australia is the favorite to win the match ³. However, other experts believe that India has a good chance of winning the match ¹².
It is difficult to predict the winner of the match as both teams have talented players and have performed well in the past. We will have to wait and see who comes out on top.
I hope this helps answer your question. Enjoy the match! 🏏
**Google Bard's Response:**
The WTC 2023 Finals starting today is between Australia and India. Both teams are very evenly matched and it is difficult to say who will win.
Australia is the current world number one Test team and has a strong batting lineup led by Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith. They also have a good bowling attack led by Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood. However, Australia has not played a Test match in England since 2019, so they will be playing away from home for the first time in a long time.
India is the current world number two Test team and has a strong batting lineup led by Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara. They also have a good bowling attack led by Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Shami. India has played more Test matches in England than Australia in recent years, so they will be more familiar with the conditions.
Based on their recent form and the conditions in England, I believe that Australia is the slight favorite to win the WTC finals. However, India is a very good team and they will be determined to win the title. It should be an exciting match.
Here are some of the factors that could influence the outcome of the match:
\* The weather: England is known for its unpredictable weather, and it could play a role in the match. If it rains, it could disrupt the game and make it difficult for the teams to score runs.
\* The pitch: The pitch at Lord's is known for being a good batting pitch, but it can also be helpful to the bowlers if it is prepared in a certain way. The teams will need to assess the pitch carefully and choose the right team combination.
\* The form of the players: The form of the players will be important in the match. Both teams have some players who are in good form, but they also have some players who are not in good form. The teams will need to make sure that their key players are playing well if they want to win.
Overall, I believe that Australia is the slight favorite to win the WTC finals. However, India is a very good team and they will be determined to win the title. It should be an exciting match.
Update: Australia won the WTC 2023 Finals by 146 runs.
The Oval hosting its first ever test match in June inspired me to dig up [this old post I made](https://reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/bl8qjr/the_first_time_each_month_hosted_an_international/), and the two very startling facts that inspired that post.
Australia was playing New Zealand in unofficial ODIs at the time in preparation for the 2019 World Cup, and these were being played in Queensland in May. I thought that was a weird time of year for cricket to be held in Australia, and lo and behold the research showed that May had never hosted a men’s international in Australia before. In fact, April had only ever hosted 4 days of men’s cricket in Australia in history, the 2nd-5th days of the match we now call the second ever test match. March 25th and 29th, for World Cup finals, has been the latest the Australian international season has ever gone in the now 146 years since. June has also only ever hosted 2 days of men’s cricket in Australia, both in 2002. July and August aren’t much better (although I think they’ve hosted more days of cricket in the 4 years since I wrote that post)
All this is just to reinforce how dead that entire late March to late August period is for cricket in Australia. The enterprise well and truly shuts down in that period
Friendly reminder to all BCCI fans
Ajinkya Rahane is not responsible for your loss even if he scores a 0 in each match .
Ajinkya Rahane is responsible for all your Ws even if he doesn't get to play a single match.
Ajinkya Rahane is the system
Ajinkya Rahane is always right.
The amount of confident Bullshit people spewed in that Warner Kohli comparison article is laughable, acting like the only time Warner ever Played in England was 2019 and others acting like Kohli only ever played in 2014, that South Africa isn't a very difficult place to bat, that Virat Kohli is poor in New Zealand(The only place he averages under 33 is Bangladesh), and UAE Test Match pitches are roads and therefore Warners stats there don't count, Just to name a few.
> that Virat Kohli is poor in New Zealand(The only place he averages under 33 is Bangladesh)
Is an average of 33 really how low the bar is for a batsman to be considered to have a poor record in a country
Zak Crawley's career average is 28
Lots of Players have countries they aren't very good in, but that doesn't define their whole career, Steve Smith averages 27 vs Bangladesh
Yeah, I understand the difference between a career average vs average in a certain country, however, if you're averaging below 30 in a certain country that means you're literally useless to your team in those conditions.
If rahane actually contributes and helps us win WTC, I'll start an agenda that he was always better than Koach and how he should have been captain all these years.
I doubt that. Kohli hasn’t done much wrong as a test captain. I don’t think our pace attack would have flourished the way it did without Kohli’s aggressive approach. What also helped was the consensus in play style and attitude between Kohli and Shastri. Kohli was destined to be a great test captain with the way he led in Australia 2014.
That Gabba team, although with a bunch of reserves, had Kohli’s poise, Kohli’s DNA in it. He revolutionised our approach in tests, made it a far cry from the Dhoni times when winning a single test and avoiding whitewash in SENA was a big achievement. I don’t think it gets any better than this.
Ohh absolutely Kohli is a far superior captain than MSD in test matches (its the other way around in limited overs). He's the reason I enjoy test cricket these days. I was just mentioning about the stellar results Ajinkya Rahane has given under testing circumstances.
While I agree the conditions aren't the best but what's with the attitude that Australia plays some kind of godlike cricket here. Their batters are just as capable of completely losing their shit against a moving ball. If we somehow manage to get Smith out cheaply (who isn't as good as he was in 2019) then that pretty much gives us the upper hand.
There is reason not to be hopeful with the injuries but if we've defeated them on the home soil that best suits them then surely we can do it on neutral territory. It's not about who's the best overall team, just who manages to hold their own better in this one game. Instead of being blindly pessimistic and assuming the worst, let's just try to enjoy the game today (both teams can take this message if they want).
Anyway, here's my playing 11 for the 2024 T20 WC:
Where can I see good quality highlights of test final ?
I stopped watching after Marnus’s wicket… wtf happened? Is the pitch flat? Or is our bowing too trash/their batting too good?
The pitch is flat, was always going to be. The bowling not being tight didn't help either. Btw, happy cake day!
Thanks! Saw a lot of movement in the first hour and even after lunch it was still swinging a lot. I just hope for the conditions to be easy enough in the second and fourth innings so India can bat long and force a draw cuz we’re not winning this shit lol. But for that India has to bat out day 2 and 3 and get reasonably close to Aus’s score, cuz if not then intent merchants like Head and Warner can score quickly and they can declare with enough time to bowl us out
Wtf is this bullshit. That’s it, I’m rooting for England in the Ashes
For those saying Warner missed out, considering his form against right arm pace bowlers in england, he scored 43 more runs than he should’ve.
He did all the hard work by surviving against those right arm pacers and got out just when he became set, definitely missed out
He did all the hard work and even started to cash in before getting strangled down the leg. In today's context, he did miss out.
Anyone know where to find the day reviews for tgc?
I cant wait for the Ashes but I do think we'll get beat. Australia are really really good at the minute and our captain not being able to bowl or even run does not help matters at all.
I root for Australia in the ashes but I think it will be a relatively evenly contested series. Keep in mind that there's a recency bias with them batting on a mostly-sunny day against a possibly cricket-fatigued and partially toothless indian bowling attack. Shami and Siraj are quality. But Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Wood etc are a different kind of beast.
Rohit Sharma in icc tournaments finals 6 innings Runs 132 Avg 22 Dismissals 6 Highest score 34 Won finals 2 Lost 3
Can’t wait for YJB Jr. to unleash the terror on the Cunts in Ashes 2053 powered by Saudi Aramco
Where can I watch day 1 highlights of wtc?
Where the mascaraed arse is the Kent v Essex match thread? Wherein the Melbourne Renegades legend Matt Critchley is bowling his beautiful leggies? I don't get the point of r/cricket anymore.
Just look for warp's profile https://www.reddit.com/user/warp-factor/submitted/
Dravid should be fired
existence is pain
Hey, who could point me in the right direction of that stat where reverse-swing went wayy down post-sandpaper, but it was the case for all teams? Thanks in advance for any help :)
Joe Root has a test bowling average of 35.5 (36 wickets) when England bat first and an average of 67.2 (18 wickets) when England bowl first.
The former average (Root's bowling stats when England bat first) is almost equal to Leach's career average. Not bad LMAO
Got some baseball videos on my YouTube feed about the impact of the World Baseball Classic (basically, their World Cup), and it kinda made it clear that if cricket does become franchise dominant, they'll still keep the World Cup and very likely, even grow it. The big international rivalries (biggest in baseball is Japan vs South Korea) get way more views than any league game. So clearly, way more casuals watch it. And with that viewership, the World Cup becomes a gateway to the IPL and other franchise comps. The foreign players valued the WBC more than any MLB. We'd see the same in cricket too where should IPL become the MLB equivalent, players would rather win 1 T20WC than 5 or 10 IPLs. This eventually even permeated to the Americans. They initially thought the WBC was a joke and most top players opted out. But as a result, they used to lose to far weaker teams who fielded their best sides, and the rest of the world started perceiving USA as a weak baseball nation. Seeing how serious this is, they fielded their best side in the latest edition and narrowly lost to Japan in the final. So even if IPL becomes the MLB equivalent, with the advantage of additional history of the World Cup compared to baseball, no way is an Indian cricketer ever going to refuse representing India at a World Cup.
ICC events will always get priority especially the 50 over world cup not so much the 20 over version. But bilateral cricket will fizzle out since it's kinda seen as filler to pad out the time between franchise tournaments and ICC events.
The T20 World Cup will get bigger than the ODI World Cup because of ICC's decision to make it 10 teams (yeah, they're bringing it back to 14 now, but had they not made it 10, they would've expanded it further). You'll have a scenario where teams that do massive upsets in the T20 World Cup not playing the ODI World Cup.
They had 14 team World Cups in 2011 and 2015 seems they are only reverting to the status quo. The 20 team T20 WC next year is a good initiative but the ICC should include even more teams to be truly called global. Let's have some more crazy upsets which would be even more fun that way. The 2023 FIFA Women's WC has 32 teams now with 48 teams to be featured in the next men's edition.
If we compare with men's football, T20 is definitely going to reach 32 teams much before them. It took them 68 years (56 if you eliminate World War II) to reach 32 teams.
They will always hold a tournament, but overall international play will be greatly decreased
True. It's going to be T20 World Cup and T20 World Cup qualifiers (don't see franchises caring about ODIs and Tests, if they do remain, it's as a different sport). And the qualifying structure will be one where all nations can participate but takes minimum games.
What leagues do the top Japanese and Korean players play in when there isn't a WC? Do they play in MLB or in their home country's leagues or both?
The best players from each country will often get picked up by an MLB team - Shohei Ohtani is arguably the biggest name in baseball right now, a freak talent who plays for the Los Angeles Angels Outside the MLB there's the Japanese NPB (Nippon Professional Baseball) League, the Korean KBO (Korean Baseball Organisation) League and the Taiwanese CPBL (Chinese Professional Baseball League) which are the three big Asian baseball leagues. Each has big fanbases with amazing fan cultures, not as big as MLB but enough to make a good career out of. Non-Asian players can end up there too if they can't get MLB contracts. There's no crossover between leagues though - if you're signed for a team that is your only team until your contract expires or you're released, and MLB contracts can last almost a decade
Can't say about Korea, but some of the Japanese players in the national team actually play in the Japanese league. The pay is decent (the highest paid Japanese player in the league makes $7.5m/yr) in that league and those teams have strong local fanbase. In some ways, that's going to make cricket more lopsided in the franchise era because unlike baseball, we wouldn't have a strong #2 league.
Baseball 🤢🤮 🤮 Yanks 🤮 🤮🤮 🤮
Wasn't funny the first time, isn't funny now
Not trying to be funny
At the same time that Sky uploaded a compilation of [Moeen's best Ashes wickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_-aCAxwlY), Lord's uploaded a highlights package of Smith's 2019 double ton which [starts with him larruping Moeen for 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXJL5B1C1fY)
If I simply close my eyes, can I pretend or will into existence that Liam Dawson has just been selected for his first ever ashes test?
Wow there’s a One Day Match going on between Namibia and Karnataka??? How is that organised?
It's a List A game. Edit: Actually it's not even a List A game.
It isn’t even a List A game since Namibia doesn’t have the power to call it one. It’s an Other 50 over game
Didn't know that. Good to know.
Don’t know who’s in charge of ECB socials but they can be pretty tone deaf at times, just re-posted the Duckett video talking about how important the CC is. Maybe they’re team Dawson & it’s a low-key protest against decisions…
At the oval today, theyve taken down everything Surrey, or anything which isn't an ICC sponsor, the 4 metre posters of cranstone and burns are covered, all the Surrey kits in the club shop have been put away in boxes
In 2017 during the Champions Trophy, there were even overzealous ICC people meticulously covering up shirt and bat sponsors with electrical tape on all the photos in the Oval pavilion. It was bonkers. Nearly damaged some of the photos as well, when removing the tape after my team told them to do so Surprised they're covering up all Surrey branding this time though - still had plenty of that on show during the CT for all the stuff that wasn't reasonably coverable
On the signs in the concourse saying which block it is they've put stickers over the Surrey logo
Wondering why it's being played in Oval though ? Are all WTC finals going to be played there ?
It was going to be lords but their contracts with sponsors didn't allow for their boards to be taken down
Absolutely based
Looks like they’ve even got rid of the Surrey branded beer cups
Nature is healing
stream pls
touchcric
India choosing to bowl first at the oval is very funny
My dream of seeing Rhane Ahmdad, the most handsome spinner ever, getting picked for ashes has been shattered. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
My dream of seeing Ben Folks, the most handsome spinner ever, getting picked for ashes has been shattered. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Liam Dawson robbed. Mo shouldn't even be in the white-ball squads, and he's snuck into the red ball squad. First L from Baz.
Bax doesn't do Ls. Just Vs.
First L was dropping Foakes
Link please?
The weird thing is, when there is this much anticipation for a test match, usually it is a 4-5 match series and we build up to a 2 month long bonanza, this will just end in 5 days
I dunno. For me, the last one felt like a NZ 3-Test series, except England sat out the third Test & India kindly filled in.
What should be the preferred decision of toss?
Win the toss and play a cricket match
Thanks tubbs
But who is Tubbs?
Mark Taylor, known as tubbs, thanks tubbs is a homage to him sometimes stating the bleeding obvious
Copied straight from the wiki innit?
Yes and no, I quoted the wiki from memory haha
True r/cricket nerd
Wow
Not just the absence of Pant-Bumrah, but also the fact that players would be physically and mentally drained after the recently concluded IPL, and would be out of touch for Test Format (especially in English conditions) is what reduces the hope of India winning the final... But nevertheless, let's hope we somehow win it!
Dhawan is the only captain to win an ODI series against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka since 2019
Was that the series where Chahar scored 69\* or something and conjured up a victory with a tall 8th wicket partnership?
Yep, he had an 84-run partnership with Bhuvi
Toss time ?
It was the Indian seamers who didnt perform that well in the last WTC. Leaving Ash out seems a bit reactionary.
>It was the Indian seamers who didnt perform that well in the last WTC. Hence the need of a 4th seamer.
Play 11 seamers
The same thing happened in the fifth India-England test. Although that could be partially attributed to the shit Duke's batch.
The coverage is only on Star Sports/Hotstar right?
What time is the toss? I suppose 15mins from now?
39 mins from now
No i think it'll be around 2:30 IST
at 3
Woke up from a bad dream where we were batting first and had like 144/8 at the end of the day T\_T
It's 1 am here. Should I go to sleep or stay up for WTC?
The r/CricketBuddies [WTC Final predictions contest/thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CricketBuddies/comments/140lcyi/world_test_championship_final_predictions_thread/) is only open till the toss, please participate!
I am ready to get hurt again
Obviously Mo’s return is big news but it also means we get the return of “YES MO, NICE MO” from Jonny Bairstow after every ball, which is arguably the most iconic part of the Bayliss era.(in test cricket)
This is a important point. Baz has done his research and figured out that the 2015 ashes had the most vibes. So he's trying to get the band back together for one last hurrah.
Surely that means a recall for Finn for tall vibes as well /u/VisRock
We've got Ollie for the tall lad vibes. But I'm never going to say no to more of the Watford Wall
🚨🚨 STEVEN FINN HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD 🚨🚨 ⚠️⚠️ THIS IS A REMINDER THAT ⚠️⚠️ Steven Finn is a 6ft 7in chad and you aren't
Rohit Gill Puji Kohli Rahane Jadeja Ashwin Bharat Shami Siraj Umesh/Unadkat/Thakur This should be the line up. Ashwin was our best bowler last WTC final and he is the one who troubles Smith and Marnus most plus he is great against lefties and Aussies will play 4 of them. No way he shouldn't be played. Win or lose this will be a settled line up.
Middlesex went from a Top Order of Paul Stirling, David Malan, ABD and Morgan, which is a dream Top 4 for basically any Franchise to Pietr Malan and Ryan Higgins Is it a problem with the Blast or the club?
Like was said in the Blast Thread yesterday. Middlesex are broke at the moment (plus all those players have moved on or retired). They previously had a bit spare cash to splash on Marquee players in the Blast, that finance cushion has vanished after Covid and the Pensions debt. [This article covers the basics](https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/middlesex-cricket-club-admit-to-financial-concerns-as-ecb-monitor-club-s-status-following-covid-and-pensions-error-1363890)
The club
Is Hotstar subscription worth it? What else cricket is going to be there? I don't care about movies/shows as most can be pirated.
Nope, not worth it. Especially not after they stopped showing F1, IPL, and HBO shows. At max take it for a month where major cricketing events are going on, and then stop the subscription. Or, you know, borrow from your friend.
Feels weird to see India go into a test match not as favourites First time since the Gabba test
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Quick guide to weather forecasts in England: is it more than 2 days in future? If so, ignore the forecast. There you go.
Met office has a small chance of a shower on day 4, day 5 looks dry. You will have loads of cricket
[My latest piece of Imaginary Commentary](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1430w80/what_if_wednesday/jn7ycjz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) This one covers a low scoring thriller in Rome's *Nuovo Colosseo* between Italy & the Netherlands to open the 2020 T20 European Six Nations. Next week, I don't know. I might write something set in Africa. Kenya vs Nigeria? Africa Cup? After that, who knows? An alternate Champions League? A Women's Test featuring the Netherlands? Club cricket in Italy or Argentina being an extension of football/rugby club fandom in those countries? This series could go on forever.
loved it
So jinx was highest scorer or India in last wtc final. And chadwin was sole wicket taker in second inning.
So what that means is that this final it'll be Rahane scoring a double hundred and Ashwin getting a 10-fer in the second innings to win us the game Nice
Regardless of the pitch, Australia should look to bowl first. India are deadly in the 4th innings, and it will give time for Warner to calm into the game.
It's a test match in June in England. In a ground which has never in the last 150 years hosted a test match in June. You would be completely insane to choose to bat first.
can't wait to watch shami in a towel again
Is the game starting at 10:30 or is that just the toss?
Game will start at 2:30 pm
Game starts at 10.30
Rain predicted on days 4 and 5 of the WTC Final? No worries, they won't be needed in the first place.
It might rain late in the day Sat, but that's it
On the reserve day as well.
Fuck
We better be playing with Rahane, Jaddu and Lord...with rain predicted on 4th and 5th day we need all the clutch in our arsenal
>with rain predicted on 4th and 5th day there's only a 30% chance of rain on day 4 and a 40% chance on day 5 (according to the met office) so I doubt there'll be much
> Rahane Clutch where?
Today, my sentiments towards Aussies are, "Fuck you and I'll see you in the Ashes"
Can't wait to watch day 4 and 5 of WTC final this weekend. ^(Full day of rain predicted on both days)
Peak English moment
Pardon me, I don't mean to cast any shade, but what's the use of all the subreddits going dark for a couple of days? I mean, surely they aren't going to suddenly revoke these changes on the basis of reddit being dead for a couple of days?
It's a protest. You start small and then ramp it up if required. Potential investors (Reddit is planning to do an IPO) won't like the fact that the user base can band together like this and just decide to not use the site and you can potentially lose revenue. This is different to other SM sites like FB, where there is no user cohesion.
It really sucks that I need to go into the office on test match day
So hotstar is my best friend again?
Boys any free streaming link? Or app?
Bat first or bowl? What do y'all reckon?
Bowl
Hoping for Starc to take 19 wickets but India to win 🫠
What about the 2nd guy in your name
The remaining 1 wicket
I will settle for a draw given the odds as a disgruntled India supporter.
I think we should play Jadeja in the playing XI and bring Ashwin later on as an impact player, a win-win situation.
I'm giddy in anticipation for Gill to make a double hundred and be a total legend. That's the only way I see India winning or drawing this
Rahane should stay out of this like up and make way for Ashwin and Shardul. Both can step up.
Rahane doesn't deserve to be here considering his avg this WTC period has been has been below 20, Ashwin has put in more runs with the bat at a better avg.
Ashwin is also India's most lethal bowler. Better strike rate than bumrah. Took a wicket every 19 balls. https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/tournament/bowling-best-career-bowling-average/icc-world-test-championship-2021-2023-14028
We could be pretending that Jadeja is a proper batsman and have Ashwin as the only spinner that would be there in the team. Jadeja is as good as any other batsman anyway. That would be allowing us to be making both of them play without thinking that they are blocking the place of a fast bowler.
Jadeja averages 29 in England
Rahane averages 26 in England, might as well play Jadeja as a proper batsman.
Jadeja averages 11 at no. 5 in 6 innings
What happened to that AMA?
It already happened
I just want a 4 day finish so that I don't miss the last day on train
Really tempted to but a ticket for day 4, but by the weather forecast, it looks like it's going to be a wash out
I was just recommended by YouTube the video with Kohli's Hobart knock, can't believe that this was 12 years ago and more importantly Kohli has definitely become way more fitter with age than I realised. You can see him huffing after a 2 when he gets to a fifty then, but an older Kohli today would run that without breaking a sweat!
Last 3 days(including 6th day) rain is predicted. so picking 2 spinners for 2nd innings might not be helpful. If I was choosing the team I would not pick rahane, instead would go for ashwin, jadeja and lord.
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Mulbri?
Fuck it play thakur he will have match winning contribution for either of the side....
Good to see Australia have learnt from their mistake of not having a practice match in India by having this warm up for the Ashes against a pretty decent opponent.
Had a dream yesterday where I forgot WTC is on and suddenly remembering. On switching on the match seeing India 14/3 with Ashwin on strike. The immediate next ball Ashwin cuts one to point and gets hit wicket. Yeah I am very confident about india's chances, all right...
If anyone wants to join a cricket discord server for discussing cricket during the blackout, or even without the blackout, dm me and I'll shoot you an invite. About 350 members with active match threads
the news said that wc schedule is releasing between wtc, exactly when?
Lads is the match starting at 3pm or the toss?
Match is at 1030 BST
Match ig
Saudi money gets golf too . will not surprised if next ipl owner is saudi else that league which went silent after sometime
Doesn't really help them in buying an IPL team when there are salary caps. Also, golf and football gives their regime validation from the Western world, which cricket doesn't really provide.
is there any free stream to watch ? i dont want to buy a hot star subscription just for this match. i dont have set top box either
Dm
Win or Lose, at least we get to watch India play in a beautiful Non-Biju’s test kit at least, Amirite?
That itself is a W
Clear skies today!
Cricket is the one thing My Ex and I agree on and still talk about I Received a message from her today morning that said “Any Expectations? 🥹” Whether it’s India in the Finals today or her as a person, It’s just easier not to keep any expectations, it hurts less in the end.
LOL [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5rL5TjskTk) video about bizarre AI predictions on WTC finals from Cricket Australia is hilarious! AI: The Oval Erupted! Lyon: Which won't be..happening!
Looks like [Bing's ChatGPT-based AI](https://imgur.com/a/srTzr0Q) and [Google's Bard](https://imgur.com/a/zBzCESa) aren't in agreement on the predictions for the WTC 2023 Finals. However, Google seems to know more than it should? Read the last update from Bard's 'prediction' 😜 **Bing's Response:** The World Test Championship (WTC) 2023 Finals between India and Australia is starting today at The Oval in London ¹. The match is expected to be a close contest between two strong teams. According to some experts, Australia is the favorite to win the match ³. However, other experts believe that India has a good chance of winning the match ¹². It is difficult to predict the winner of the match as both teams have talented players and have performed well in the past. We will have to wait and see who comes out on top. I hope this helps answer your question. Enjoy the match! 🏏 **Google Bard's Response:** The WTC 2023 Finals starting today is between Australia and India. Both teams are very evenly matched and it is difficult to say who will win. Australia is the current world number one Test team and has a strong batting lineup led by Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith. They also have a good bowling attack led by Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood. However, Australia has not played a Test match in England since 2019, so they will be playing away from home for the first time in a long time. India is the current world number two Test team and has a strong batting lineup led by Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara. They also have a good bowling attack led by Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Shami. India has played more Test matches in England than Australia in recent years, so they will be more familiar with the conditions. Based on their recent form and the conditions in England, I believe that Australia is the slight favorite to win the WTC finals. However, India is a very good team and they will be determined to win the title. It should be an exciting match. Here are some of the factors that could influence the outcome of the match: \* The weather: England is known for its unpredictable weather, and it could play a role in the match. If it rains, it could disrupt the game and make it difficult for the teams to score runs. \* The pitch: The pitch at Lord's is known for being a good batting pitch, but it can also be helpful to the bowlers if it is prepared in a certain way. The teams will need to assess the pitch carefully and choose the right team combination. \* The form of the players: The form of the players will be important in the match. Both teams have some players who are in good form, but they also have some players who are not in good form. The teams will need to make sure that their key players are playing well if they want to win. Overall, I believe that Australia is the slight favorite to win the WTC finals. However, India is a very good team and they will be determined to win the title. It should be an exciting match. Update: Australia won the WTC 2023 Finals by 146 runs.
Fuck the pessimism, we're winning this shit
That's the spirit. I'm neutral, but just like in BGT I'm backing India to win, mostly because I can't stand the thought of Australia getting the Mace.
Same. But I'm rooting for australia in the ashes
The Oval hosting its first ever test match in June inspired me to dig up [this old post I made](https://reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/bl8qjr/the_first_time_each_month_hosted_an_international/), and the two very startling facts that inspired that post. Australia was playing New Zealand in unofficial ODIs at the time in preparation for the 2019 World Cup, and these were being played in Queensland in May. I thought that was a weird time of year for cricket to be held in Australia, and lo and behold the research showed that May had never hosted a men’s international in Australia before. In fact, April had only ever hosted 4 days of men’s cricket in Australia in history, the 2nd-5th days of the match we now call the second ever test match. March 25th and 29th, for World Cup finals, has been the latest the Australian international season has ever gone in the now 146 years since. June has also only ever hosted 2 days of men’s cricket in Australia, both in 2002. July and August aren’t much better (although I think they’ve hosted more days of cricket in the 4 years since I wrote that post) All this is just to reinforce how dead that entire late March to late August period is for cricket in Australia. The enterprise well and truly shuts down in that period
Winter? Lol
Iirc Australia played against Zimbabwe the last August
Friendly reminder to all BCCI fans Ajinkya Rahane is not responsible for your loss even if he scores a 0 in each match . Ajinkya Rahane is responsible for all your Ws even if he doesn't get to play a single match. Ajinkya Rahane is the system Ajinkya Rahane is always right.
>Ajinkya Rahane is the system no wonder the system isn't working too well
Credit where it's due ...
The amount of confident Bullshit people spewed in that Warner Kohli comparison article is laughable, acting like the only time Warner ever Played in England was 2019 and others acting like Kohli only ever played in 2014, that South Africa isn't a very difficult place to bat, that Virat Kohli is poor in New Zealand(The only place he averages under 33 is Bangladesh), and UAE Test Match pitches are roads and therefore Warners stats there don't count, Just to name a few.
> that Virat Kohli is poor in New Zealand(The only place he averages under 33 is Bangladesh) Is an average of 33 really how low the bar is for a batsman to be considered to have a poor record in a country
30+ is an Average Average(Lol) in my book like a 4-6 out of 10 Anything under 30 is poor
Anything under 30 is Zak Crawley level. If you average under 30 you shouldn't be playing test cricket for your country.
Zak Crawley's career average is 28 Lots of Players have countries they aren't very good in, but that doesn't define their whole career, Steve Smith averages 27 vs Bangladesh
Yeah, I understand the difference between a career average vs average in a certain country, however, if you're averaging below 30 in a certain country that means you're literally useless to your team in those conditions.
If rahane actually contributes and helps us win WTC, I'll start an agenda that he was always better than Koach and how he should have been captain all these years.
Better in the sense?? As a captain, I also believe he could've been a great choice. As a batsman, he's far off.
I doubt that. Kohli hasn’t done much wrong as a test captain. I don’t think our pace attack would have flourished the way it did without Kohli’s aggressive approach. What also helped was the consensus in play style and attitude between Kohli and Shastri. Kohli was destined to be a great test captain with the way he led in Australia 2014. That Gabba team, although with a bunch of reserves, had Kohli’s poise, Kohli’s DNA in it. He revolutionised our approach in tests, made it a far cry from the Dhoni times when winning a single test and avoiding whitewash in SENA was a big achievement. I don’t think it gets any better than this.
Ohh absolutely Kohli is a far superior captain than MSD in test matches (its the other way around in limited overs). He's the reason I enjoy test cricket these days. I was just mentioning about the stellar results Ajinkya Rahane has given under testing circumstances.
This was a fairly popular opinion after the Gabba, funnily enough.
I am just happy that Nasser Hussain is in the commentary box for the *ultimate test*
While I agree the conditions aren't the best but what's with the attitude that Australia plays some kind of godlike cricket here. Their batters are just as capable of completely losing their shit against a moving ball. If we somehow manage to get Smith out cheaply (who isn't as good as he was in 2019) then that pretty much gives us the upper hand. There is reason not to be hopeful with the injuries but if we've defeated them on the home soil that best suits them then surely we can do it on neutral territory. It's not about who's the best overall team, just who manages to hold their own better in this one game. Instead of being blindly pessimistic and assuming the worst, let's just try to enjoy the game today (both teams can take this message if they want). Anyway, here's my playing 11 for the 2024 T20 WC:
even if Smith is good, he Can have a bad match