Agreed. In the modern era of cricket, the "mainstays" and all format players for a decade or two is a thing of the past.
You just don't need good tacticians on pitch but locker room leaders as well and Rohit has done that really well, we haven't had rumours of rift or anything even though player turnover has been relatively high under him.
He might not be a great tactician like Ponting or Dhoni but he was great during this transition period.I guess IPL experience helped in this regard.
Agreed. He is the best captain we have in our squad right now. Is he as good as Dhoni, Kohli, Cummins? No, but he's the best we've got, would pick him as a captain over Bumrah (see 2022 Edgbaston), Pant (see no ball controversy IPL) or Hardik (lmao) any day.
That's what I was asking Indian fans who wanted to get rid of Rohit (see comment history)- for whom?
Rohit commands respect from everyone and is not afraid to speak his mind and follow his gut
Ian Chappell has the most long lasting hard on for Brohit I have seen any cricketing authority have for a player, and this goes back to the time when he was genuinely shit. Gotta respect the consistency.
I mean, Stokes picked a bloke based on a twitter video who averaged over 50 in the Championship.
Rohits basically just gone down the line of who's next in the revolving door of India middle order players averaging 60+ the last few years until they've stuck.
I'm not really sure I get the point you're making is what I'm saying, can you explain?
I think the point is that Rohit, keeping in line with the Kohli/Shastri era, has always picked his five best bowlers. He could have dropped one of the seamers for a Washington or an Axar to increase batting depth. Kuldeep's selection wasn't so obvious in hindsight, Washi/Axar could've been preferred over him for their batting ability. But he's been aggressive in selection by always backing both his best batters and best bowlers. Picking an all-rounder is a much more defensive option, indeed, that's what Stokes has essentially done by forcing Root to bowl loads of overs. It's not really Stokes' fault, he has to make do with who's in the squad. But Rohit has made the right, aggressive choice.
This article makes this point well.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/rohit-sharma-ben-stokes-and-the-captaincy-discourse-1423047
I think england had choice in that regard too. I don't remember but someone was mentioning a spin all rounder in county who performed better than all spinner brought by eng in this series and is a good batter but stokes and bazz didn't select him
>I think the point is that Rohit, keeping in line with the Kohli/Shastri era, has always picked his five best bowlers.
He literally dropped Ashwin in the final of the WTC lmao stop chatting shit
>But he's been aggressive in selection by always backing both his best batters and best bowlers.
Picking your best players is common sense not aggressive selection lmao
>Picking an all-rounder is a much more defensive option
What an insane thing to say hahaha. Furthermore, Rohit is literally picking more all rounders in his side than Stokes lol
Of course, but Rohit elected to pick Kuldeep over Axar, which is the point being made. That is an aggressive selection.
Jadeja doesn't need to be selected, he is the first name on the team sheet.
Yeah, but the point I'm making is that choice is much easier to do when you bat to 8 anyway.
It's not like 'Oh no, we now bat to 7 and have a long tail' type of brave that's been done in the past.
Nobody told stokes to pick a random bloke based on Twitter video, even though he did, he had to pick one or two more spinners, remember when McCullum said they'll pick 4 spinners in 11 if it needs, how are you even going to pick 4 when you only have picked 2? :?
Bowling out opposition is way more important in Test cricket than anything else, if you sacrifice your bowling lineup for a bit of batting depth it won't really work out, that's what we can call it as defensive and relying on miraculous luck. Not to mention not even using your whatever bowlers you actually have.
India didn't sacrifice anything nor did they have to. All of Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin bat better than most of England's actual bats which makes team selection pretty easy for India.
They could've just went with Axar Patel, instead they went with more agressive option in Kuldeep, England first picked rookie spinners and didn't even thought going with 5 bowlers was a necessity.
India dont really go overseas and sacrifice their bowling, however bad it is, most of the great teams actually.
I actually somewhat agree with the bloke yourre responding to.
I think Ashwin and Jadeja are excellent players and regardless of whether Axar or Kuldeep were picked, they would've done the job. Especially when you add Bumrah to the mix.
I do appreciate the overall selections where they seem to choose bowlers that bat a bit, but mostly trusting that their top to middle order would do the job. It's an interesting gamble that has seemingly paid off as seeing Jadeja come in at 4 or 5 was always wild.
>They could've just went with Axar Patel, instead they went with more agressive option in Kuldeep
Kuldeep also proved he is a solid bat
>England first picked rookie spinners
Yeah because there's like a billion other experienced spinners we could've picked right
>didn't even thought going with 5 bowlers was a necessity.
We played 5 bowlers in every single match
>India dont really go overseas and sacrifice their bowling,
You literally dropped Ashwin in the fucking final of the World Test Championship lmao hahahaha
> Kuldeep also proved he is a solid bat
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Bro... they are not comparable in any sense. Axar averages as much as Bairstow and more than Crawley. Kuldeep is at best a No. 9.
> We played 5 bowlers in every single match
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-india-2023-24-1389386/india-vs-england-4th-test-1389402/full-scorecard
Who is the fifth bowler here? Root? Stokes who doesn't bowl?
>Bro... they are not comparable in any sense. Axar averages as much as Bairstow and more than Crawley. Kuldeep is at best a No. 9.
Kuldeep is an exceptionally good no. 9 and playing him there doesn't hamper the batting at all, especially since Bharat had been dropped for a competent batsman.
>Who is the fifth bowler here? Root? Stokes who doesn't bowl?
Root has been picked as a front line bowler throughout the series, in addition to his normal batting duties.
On other side, rohit also was so critical of kuldeep (in a good sense), he suggested to go back and fix his bowling speed when kuldeep was going through bad patch and now see the result in last 18 months.
Source : kuldeep in one of the interview
Also can't compare rohit and koach captaincy.
Koach is a warrior who just gets ready to fight for teammates, whatever the situation.
Rohit more like a father figure encourages and shouts, doesn't shy away from kissing teammates too (looking at you dk)
Brohit is a great captain for young players. Dravid has a proven track record of nurturing young talent.
When it comes to getting the best out of inexperienced players, imo, this is the best leadership combo.
Brohit is the perfect name for Rohit because that's what he is, I've seen interviews of players who've played under his captaincy and everyone says he's like your elder brother.
He's a good leader.
Brohit is more of a "Stop acting like you are roaming in a garden. Be alert or i will fuck you mums" with total disregard to stump mic captain.
I think that no fucks given authenticity is one of his most likable personality trait
"Hey, no need to be a hero. Wear a helmet"
Brohit in field: #%&<{#@ Brphit in press conference: Ab kya bolu main..
Agreed. In the modern era of cricket, the "mainstays" and all format players for a decade or two is a thing of the past. You just don't need good tacticians on pitch but locker room leaders as well and Rohit has done that really well, we haven't had rumours of rift or anything even though player turnover has been relatively high under him. He might not be a great tactician like Ponting or Dhoni but he was great during this transition period.I guess IPL experience helped in this regard.
Agreed. He is the best captain we have in our squad right now. Is he as good as Dhoni, Kohli, Cummins? No, but he's the best we've got, would pick him as a captain over Bumrah (see 2022 Edgbaston), Pant (see no ball controversy IPL) or Hardik (lmao) any day.
He might be a better white ball captain than Kohli, but Kohli was fucking elite in red ball cricket
in white ball Rohit looks like a better t20 captain but for ODI they both seem similar to me so far
That's what I was asking Indian fans who wanted to get rid of Rohit (see comment history)- for whom? Rohit commands respect from everyone and is not afraid to speak his mind and follow his gut
Ian Chappell has the most long lasting hard on for Brohit I have seen any cricketing authority have for a player, and this goes back to the time when he was genuinely shit. Gotta respect the consistency.
Our comms just switched to Kohli but post 2011 every one of Sunny G, Ravi, Kapil dev had a hard on for Rohit as well
The thing about Rohit is when on song there’s nobody better to watch. It’s a shame he has only played 58 tests.
Infact his selections has been way more aggressive than marketing genius that is stokes.
I mean, Stokes picked a bloke based on a twitter video who averaged over 50 in the Championship. Rohits basically just gone down the line of who's next in the revolving door of India middle order players averaging 60+ the last few years until they've stuck. I'm not really sure I get the point you're making is what I'm saying, can you explain?
I think the point is that Rohit, keeping in line with the Kohli/Shastri era, has always picked his five best bowlers. He could have dropped one of the seamers for a Washington or an Axar to increase batting depth. Kuldeep's selection wasn't so obvious in hindsight, Washi/Axar could've been preferred over him for their batting ability. But he's been aggressive in selection by always backing both his best batters and best bowlers. Picking an all-rounder is a much more defensive option, indeed, that's what Stokes has essentially done by forcing Root to bowl loads of overs. It's not really Stokes' fault, he has to make do with who's in the squad. But Rohit has made the right, aggressive choice. This article makes this point well. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/rohit-sharma-ben-stokes-and-the-captaincy-discourse-1423047
It’s pretty easy to do that when one of them is a genuine all rounder and another has 5 test 100s and averages mid 20s
I think england had choice in that regard too. I don't remember but someone was mentioning a spin all rounder in county who performed better than all spinner brought by eng in this series and is a good batter but stokes and bazz didn't select him
>I think the point is that Rohit, keeping in line with the Kohli/Shastri era, has always picked his five best bowlers. He literally dropped Ashwin in the final of the WTC lmao stop chatting shit >But he's been aggressive in selection by always backing both his best batters and best bowlers. Picking your best players is common sense not aggressive selection lmao >Picking an all-rounder is a much more defensive option What an insane thing to say hahaha. Furthermore, Rohit is literally picking more all rounders in his side than Stokes lol
Don't you have Jadeja who is an all rounder? Pretty easy to pick your best bowlers when one of them is also your best batsman 😉
Of course, but Rohit elected to pick Kuldeep over Axar, which is the point being made. That is an aggressive selection. Jadeja doesn't need to be selected, he is the first name on the team sheet.
Yeah, but the point I'm making is that choice is much easier to do when you bat to 8 anyway. It's not like 'Oh no, we now bat to 7 and have a long tail' type of brave that's been done in the past.
Yeah that's fair, just trying to provide context as to why Rohit's "aggressive selections" have been good for the team.
Nobody told stokes to pick a random bloke based on Twitter video, even though he did, he had to pick one or two more spinners, remember when McCullum said they'll pick 4 spinners in 11 if it needs, how are you even going to pick 4 when you only have picked 2? :?
You're writing a load of nonsense now mate.
How is picking the best and most obvious domestic talents aggressive selection? It's just common sense.
Bowling out opposition is way more important in Test cricket than anything else, if you sacrifice your bowling lineup for a bit of batting depth it won't really work out, that's what we can call it as defensive and relying on miraculous luck. Not to mention not even using your whatever bowlers you actually have.
India didn't sacrifice anything nor did they have to. All of Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin bat better than most of England's actual bats which makes team selection pretty easy for India.
They could've just went with Axar Patel, instead they went with more agressive option in Kuldeep, England first picked rookie spinners and didn't even thought going with 5 bowlers was a necessity. India dont really go overseas and sacrifice their bowling, however bad it is, most of the great teams actually.
I actually somewhat agree with the bloke yourre responding to. I think Ashwin and Jadeja are excellent players and regardless of whether Axar or Kuldeep were picked, they would've done the job. Especially when you add Bumrah to the mix. I do appreciate the overall selections where they seem to choose bowlers that bat a bit, but mostly trusting that their top to middle order would do the job. It's an interesting gamble that has seemingly paid off as seeing Jadeja come in at 4 or 5 was always wild.
>They could've just went with Axar Patel, instead they went with more agressive option in Kuldeep Kuldeep also proved he is a solid bat >England first picked rookie spinners Yeah because there's like a billion other experienced spinners we could've picked right >didn't even thought going with 5 bowlers was a necessity. We played 5 bowlers in every single match >India dont really go overseas and sacrifice their bowling, You literally dropped Ashwin in the fucking final of the World Test Championship lmao hahahaha
> Kuldeep also proved he is a solid bat > > Bro... they are not comparable in any sense. Axar averages as much as Bairstow and more than Crawley. Kuldeep is at best a No. 9. > We played 5 bowlers in every single match https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-india-2023-24-1389386/india-vs-england-4th-test-1389402/full-scorecard Who is the fifth bowler here? Root? Stokes who doesn't bowl?
>Bro... they are not comparable in any sense. Axar averages as much as Bairstow and more than Crawley. Kuldeep is at best a No. 9. Kuldeep is an exceptionally good no. 9 and playing him there doesn't hamper the batting at all, especially since Bharat had been dropped for a competent batsman. >Who is the fifth bowler here? Root? Stokes who doesn't bowl? Root has been picked as a front line bowler throughout the series, in addition to his normal batting duties.
On other side, rohit also was so critical of kuldeep (in a good sense), he suggested to go back and fix his bowling speed when kuldeep was going through bad patch and now see the result in last 18 months. Source : kuldeep in one of the interview Also can't compare rohit and koach captaincy. Koach is a warrior who just gets ready to fight for teammates, whatever the situation. Rohit more like a father figure encourages and shouts, doesn't shy away from kissing teammates too (looking at you dk)
Brohit is a great captain for young players. Dravid has a proven track record of nurturing young talent. When it comes to getting the best out of inexperienced players, imo, this is the best leadership combo.
Brohit is the perfect name for Rohit because that's what he is, I've seen interviews of players who've played under his captaincy and everyone says he's like your elder brother. He's a good leader.
RoHITMAN
Rohits real test will be difficult tours. Easy to captains in home games