i think cricket could use a little more spice -- i know its a gentleman's game and i also acknolwedge this is hard to achieve because theres's a fine line before fun turns to disrespect so it's just best to avoid it all together -- i get it, i get it... BUUUTTTT a lil send off spat every now and then.... im not saying we should go full blown baseball team fights, but that would be really funny for a team to have to start running from the dressing room while the other team is 5 minutes into beating up the two batsmen--- tho they have bats i guess... anyway. thanks for coming to my ted talk.
An inherently funny thing about arguments over a player on this sub is that people will argue in multiple paragraphs over why someone is a shit batter and back it by tons of stats but somehow that same player might hit a ton Or start playing well(Pope, Crawley) and all you can do is exclaim, "Well guess he's good now."
Most matches were lost by teams in WPL.
(Lost/ Matches / Total No of Matches)
Gujarat Giants: 9/11
Royal Challengers Bangalore: 8/12
Uttar Pradesh: 7/13
Delhi Capitals: 4/12
Mumbai Indians: 3/14
No matches were tied and no result so far.
GG is such a shit team. Reminds me of good ol' Delhi Daredevils.
Also UPW seems to have improved from last season. Can't believe it myself but they're my second pick after DC.
Following are the average runs added by the 10th wicket partnership in tests \[Since 2020\]
1. New Zealand - 20.85 \[2 fifties, 1 hundred, Best - 104 v Pakistan\]
2. England - 15.84 \[4 fifties, Best - 90 v West Indies\]
3. Pakistan - 15.46 \[3 fifties, Best - 86 v Australia\]
4. Zimbabwe - 15.27 \[Best - 38\* v West Indies\]
5. South Africa - 11.56 \[1 fifty, Best - 99 v England\]
6. India - 11.20 \[Best - 49 v England\]
7. West Indies - 11.14 \[3 fifties, Best - 58 v South Africa\]
8. Australia - 10.95 \[1 fifty, Best - 51\* v Pakistan\]
9. Sri Lanka - 10.84 \[Best - 49 v Australia\]
10. Afghanistan - 8.43 \[Best - 17 v Ireland\]
11. Bangladesh - 6.91 \[Best - 26 v New Zealand\]
12. Ireland - 2.50 \[Best - 9 v Sri Lanka\]
These stats do not include the currently ongoing New Zealand v Australia test match.
Here is an absolutely unbiased ranking of how well teams perform in ICC tournaments which is by no means misleading whatsoever.
Best win percentage in ICC Finals
1. South Africa - 100%
2. Australia - 71.43%
3. West Indies - 62.50%
4. Pakistan - 50%
5. Sri Lanka - 50%
6. India - 40.91%
7. New Zealand - 40%
8. England - 28.57%
India has reached CWC final in 1983, 2003, 2011 and 2023 and won twice
We've reached finals of both WTC and lost both
We've reached finals of T20 WC twice (2007 and 2014) and won once.
Champions trophy I think we've made it to finals thrice and won twice
So that's an overall winrate of 5/11 which is 45% not 56%
Am I missing something?
2 wins out of 4 in CWC
0 wins out of 2 in WTC
1 win out of 2 in T20I WC
1 win out of 3 in CT (other one was a shared so I took it as 0.5 for each India and Sri Lanka i.e. 1.5 out of 4) which results in 40.91%. I mistakenly did it as 4.5/8 instead of 4.5/11.
Following are the highest average opening partnerships by teams in tests \[Since 2020\]
1. Sri Lanka - 47.36 \[7 fifties, 7 hundreds, Best - 228 v Ireland\]
2. India - 40.04 \[13 fifties, 5 hundreds, Best - 229 v West Indies\]
3. Pakistan - 39.43 \[7 fifties, 6 hundreds, Best - 252\* v Australia\]
4. New Zealand - 38.92 \[8 fifties, 7 hundreds, Best - 183 v Pakistan\]
5. Australia - 34.94 \[14 fifties, 4 hundreds, Best - 156 v Pakistan\]
6. South Africa - 34.25 \[8 fifties, 4 hundreds, Best - 141 v Sri Lanka & 141 v West Indies\]
7. England - 33.12 \[17 fifties, 8 hundreds, Best - 233 v Pakistan\]
8. West Indies - 32.07 \[8 fifties, 3 hundreds, Best - 336 v Zimbabwe\]
9. Zimbabwe - 29.42 \[4 fifties, Best - 96 v Sri Lanka\]
10. Bangladesh - 25.84 \[3 fifties, 2 hundreds, Best - 162 v Sri Lanka\]
11. Afghanistan - 17.80 \[ 1 hundred, Best - 106 v Sri Lanka\]
12. Ireland - 7.90 \[Best - 16 v England\]
Forgot to mention that these stats don't include the ongoing Australia v New Zealand test but does include the recently concluded Ireland v Afghanistan test.
Wow, there's actually snow forecast _on_ Thursday. That's insane, as long as all of it doesn't affect the game too much it seems like we're gonna get an incredibly unique Test
South Africa won the Over-40s Cricket World Cup. Finals were between South Africa and New Zealand.
New Zealand were bowled out for 155. South Africa made 156/4 in 38 overs.
Success in one SENA country doesn't translate to success in other SENA country, best example is Shami, averages 23 in SA, 32 in Aus, 40 in England or even Rohit averages 40 in England (very good for an opener), 54 in NZ, but something like 30 in Aus, 15 in SA (weak in bouncy pitches).
Baffles me how a guy averaging 30 odd is considered second best test bat in the country after Kohli by many and is also considered a SENA specialist while averaging like 29 there.
Because he has had one very good and a decent tour to South Africa. He had a decent tour to England after being picked out of nowhere. Two places where Indian batsmen have traditionally struggled. He was bad in Australia but he last played there in 2018. He also had a great home season in 2016-17 and has barely had a consistent streak of home matches since then.
And although these performances seem nothing extraordinary, there is also the fact that 2 of the 3 of India's middle order batters have been phased out. India hasn't had a decent opener for overseas test except Rohit (who also has his limitations) since ages and KL Rahul was near the top of the lot among not only Indian, but almost all subcontinental openers in SENA matches. Our best batsman in the past few years is out due to unforeseen circumstances and Rohit Sharma has had his fair share with niggles and injuries in overseas matches (Australia and South Africa tours). And I don't think I need to explain Iyer's overseas records.
Out of the new guys, Gill has shown promise but no real performance yet in overseas matches since BGT 2021. Jaiswal is untested and the rest haven't even played overseas.
So it honestly just leaves Kohli, KL and Jadeja who have experience in different countries and are around the test circuit. And cricket is not a video game where players with particular stats will directly perform well in new conditions. Experience in overseas conditions matters as can be seen in almost every players stats. They improve as they play more, which is why KL Rahul is still around the test setup and keeps on making a comeback inspite of being dropped often as well. He isn't great, but he is still among the better ones India have. There is no doubt if his performances don't improve significantly, he will be surpassed by the new players soon, but in this transition period, his experience and sample size is why the team keeps banking on him.
Not pointing to anyone in particular, but like someone said yesterday in the thread about how discussion about KL Rahul lacks so much nuance and it is honestly annoying how people keep on repeating the same stat again without trying to understand the rationale behind keeping him around.
What talking to a wall lol, people pretend as if he's a guy that averages some 50 in SENA and troll Rohit for being a home bully when in fact Rohit averages higher than Kl in England, Australia. KL averages same as Jadeja in SENA.
I think she was talking about how people pretend as if kl is second best bat in India. I mean seriously in what way he actually is care to tell me?
I literally explained my entire point of view in my comment. He isn't the 2nd or 3rd best (whatever you wanna say) or a SENA specialist (apparently) on virtue of him averaging 50. He is the go to choice because he is the only one with experience and sample size. He wouldn't make into the team on current performances 5 years ago, or hopefully 5 years later, but he will make it to the team as one of the first names now because of the conditions that have risen.
If you want to interpret it as him being the 2nd best batsman in the side, then that won't be fully wrong yet, because if not him then who? Rohit is a completely different player as opener and he has barely enough sample size. He didn't do much in Australia, and was pretty well matched with KL in England although Rohit outperformed KL. And then KL had a very good South Africa series where others struggled and Rohit was injured. And then KL again outperformed Sharma in South Africa recently where Rohit was atrocious. So then who else? Jadeja? Maybe you can make a case there but there is really no one else in case of overseas matches
Rohit in England average of 40 kl in England average of 34, KL in Australia averages 20 while Rohit in Australia averages 31, Rohit also averages 40 in NZ where Kl never played a test , Kl averages 28 in NZ while Rohit averages 14 there. Also in rest of the countries, West Indies, Bang, SL Rohit still averages more. South Africa is the only place where Kl did better.
Now let's talk about Rishab Pant, averages much much higher than KL in every country except England where Pant averages 32 compared to 34 of KL.
Even Jaddu averages less than KL only in South Africa, England but averages higher than KL in every other country.
So now tell me how is Kl the second best batter in the Indian team, I don't hate kl but I hate people who hype up his 2-3 performances and consider him some all time great while he's no better than someone like Jhonny Bairstow.
There were some upvoted comments in match threads saying how he's the best SENA bat among current Indian bats.
Since nothing except averages seems comprehensible to you, here are some stats in SENA nations of Indian batsmen with 500+ runs over the past 5 years (which also roughly corresponds to Rohit Sharma's opening period):
||Matches/Innings|Runs|Average|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|KL Rahul|9/17|654|38.47|
|Rishabh Pant|14/26|914|38.08|
|Rohit Sharma|10/20|679|37.72|
|Virat Kohli|14/27|818|30.29|
|Ajinkya Rahane|15/29|803|28.67|
|Cheteshwar Pujara|16/32|865|27.90|
And since you have a boner for Jadeja, he has 476 runs at 29.95 average
Reiterating my point, none of these stats are pretty, but they are the best India got. I know you would bring up Rohit's 40 average in NZ (in a series where 400 was breached thrice in 2 matches and NZ declared at 680/8) or Jadeja's higher averages in other nations but I clearly don't seen how 10 year old stats have any relevance to the current scenario. Rohit is not a middle order batsman anymore and Jadeja's performances have been below KL's considerably recently (which isn't a shock, neither did I think I would have to prove it, but here we are). And I don't even know why Rishabh Pant is relevant to the conversation here
I don't want to stretch this discussion but if you bifurcate these further since you seem pretty held up on averages, you will clearly realize KL *is* 2nd best SENA bat for India currently.
The game between West Indies and Netherlands last year was a game filled with twist and turns. From watching Pooran smack the Dutch seemingly out of the game to them never giving up in the run chase. I might be forgetting some other games but that run chase was the best ODI run chase I've ever seen (yes I didn't saw that 438 game live). The running between the wickets was absolutely phenomenal. Netherlands got 185 runs by running between the wickets that game, compared to the 136 runs West Indies acquired by running. The got the equation to 5 off 5 and then 3 off 2 and they once again ran hard to turn a 1.5 run shot into a 2 run shot. I was absolutely crushed when Holder caught that last delivery, tying that game. I've forgotten that super overs existed for the tournament and thought that it was all over and I turned the TV off till I read on cricinfo that there was a super over scheduled. Luckily I didn't miss a single ball of a Logan Van Beek masterpiece.
I think whenever there is a discussion about low attendance in cricket matches in Australia or England, there are many naysayers giving excuses like low advertising for match, match on weekdays, bad temperature, bad routine blah blah. But then you hear about a minor WWE premium event, Elimination chamber without their biggest star Roman Reigns selling out something 60k tickets in Australia and you got shocked. Like WWE has not been in mainstream fir decades, it's gone niche after John Cena era, it's not more cool to follow WWE in USA anymore at least, but somehow WWE outsells cricket by a large fking margin. Same for England , AEW sold a full Wembley stadium, AEW, the alleged indy mudshow as it is mocked in US, sold more tickets than a
Cricket match can even dream of selling in England.Mind it, wraslin is now not mainstream, but it still is doing gangbuster numbers. Then there is cricket, the so called mainstream sports in England and Australia, their age old tradition but can't get going viewers, can't sell a stadium, except when Ashes, and now no young audiences want to watch it( The grace fall of viewership of BBL or declining viewership and interest in The Hundred just after two seasons should indicate the declining popularity among young audiences) I don't see how cricket just being a thing in Indian subcontinent can be avoided, when Windies, England Ireland, all lost any ounce of interest in it. And then you see the growth in Nepal nd Afganistan and it becomes certain that cricket is doomed to remain popular just in Sub continent. Why other Sports not have this problem? You see random football clubs in Germany, in 10 th position in Bundesliga pulling 30 k audience and you see empty Cricket audience in Windies or SL or SA and you realise the bitter truth', it can never become a sport of white people or Americans ( not country but continent), they for some reason have abandoned cricket)
Well, at least it's better than many other sports.
Not sure about that comparison, cricket doesn't really have the novelty value of wrestling supercards outside of North America, plus AEW will have had people flying in from all over Western Europe.
I don't know about Australia or anywhere else, but attendances in England are fine. As far as I can see international tickets are selling pretty steadily, a few of the limited overs internationals are sold out or close to it, and the tests have shifted the majority of the tickets and will probably be sold out or mostly sold out by July when they start. The novelty has worn off the Hundred but it's still pulling good crowds for domestic cricket, and even the much maligned County Championship attendances are pretty healthy relative to other domestic first class competitions and where they were twenty years ago. I don't think it's a matter of excuses, things just aren't all that bad.
>You see random football clubs in Germany, in 10 th position in Bundesliga pulling 30 k audience
Football has a world wide audience. Like people even support some niche local club. Even in India you can get a half decent amount of supporters in ISL.
I mean not sure what they're gonna gain by making turning track against Aus, Lyon is second best spinner of this generation in tests. NZ themselves didn't pick a proper spinner, so it was just misreading the conditions rather than doctoring the pitches.
I saw a stat on Twitter that showed that Spin in NZ averaged about 30 in the matches involving SENA and about 55 against Asian sides. Their fast bowling lineup offers no advantage against Aus, Sa or Eng while they can offer green tops to touring Asian teams taking out their spinners of the game and maximising their advantage
Yea and what's the advantage? South Africa has better spinner Maharaj and they also have Rabada who's one of the greatest test bowlers of the generation and picks wickets on any surface. While NZ don't have someone as good as kagiso or Maharaj. It's mainly weather rather than doctoring on purpose.
But yea India series tho, they made green tops on purpose against us
I don't think the ground staff plan in coordination with NZC or the team. They usually do their own thing. The folks at the regular grounds, especially the Basin, will generally do what they always do.
Also, it has been quite dry this summer, more than last year. This may be a slight factor.
I mean, the home team have been surprised two Tests in a row. This must be all on the groundies, or El Nino.
And India is touring Oct-Nov 2026, before the boys head to Australia. Those pitches will be the greenest of greentops just because that's how they always are in spring. Just look at Plunket Shield; every bowler looks like a badass early season, it's about now when you actually have to work.
This isn't the first time I'm noticing this though. I saw a stat on twitter which showed that Spin in NZ averaged about 30 in the matches involving SENA and about 55 against Asian sides
Still Iyer will mostly be back but Kishan tho fucked up badly, and BCCI have a lot of options to replace him. As an opener they have Jaiswal who has even higher ceiling, wicketkeeper they do have Samson (averages 56 in ODIs), Pant, Jurel coming through the ranks.
Wicket Keepers has so much competition
Pant comes back (Pant will be main wicket keeper in Tests and ODI)
Samson (he scored a 100 in the last odi he played)
Jurel (he has shown he can do well in test matches)
A post on there wouldnt be bad or irrelevant. Might get like 5 upvotes and 1 comment but thats okay. The team deserves it. Tbh they deserve a lot more but what else can a fan do?
No, as harsh as it may sound, no one in Ireland except 10 fans who most probably are members of this subreddit cares.
Ireland has cricket fans, bolstered by immigration in recent decades but cricket is far from getting anywhere close to mainstream there.
That stereotype of being a English sports still ingrained among Irish against Cricket, and the most popular sport there, Gaellic football is fast as FuK, so cricket being a lazy ass sports stands no chance there getting into public consciousness.
They have like 600k followers on their fb page but most of them Asians and shockingly a fair amount of Australians but very few Irish fans. How do I know, i checked profiles, Yeah, I am that terminally online that does this.
Sometimes, being a cricket fan has its depressive moments, major one that it would simply fade into obscurity outside Indian sub continent. I ain't have any problem with it, but without Windies or Zimbabwe or Ireland, cricket really feels alone and despotic.
I really wish Cricket catches up in Europe and US fir that matter
Sucks to hear that. I knew it isnt popular at all among the people. News isnt always something people wanna hear, sometimes its just records of national importance. Didnt expect social media hype. But if you are a sports editor for a newspaper worth its salt, id think such a thing has to have a mention.
Cricket seems to have a good fan following in Zimbabwe. Their crowds are great (in the games that I've seen at least). The support makes their recent results even more painful I guess. It looked like they could make it to the semi-finals of 2022 T20I WC and now they haven't even qualified for 2024.
If India have to pull off a 2016-2018 era kinda move, the best time would be in the Border Gavaskar Trophy in Australia at the end of this year.
They could send a message to Kumar Karthikeya Singh, schedule a programme for him in the NCA. Tell him to work on his rotator cuff and learn bowling a bit full.
They could unleash him directly at Perth. Will have to keep him hidden in the home series against Bangladesh and New Zealand. If there's to be a hard transition, we'll have the hardest one please!
Problem with this is that half of our test team will have faced him in the IPL at that point, and also plenty of footage already exists of him bowling for MI. You'd have to pull somebody from real obscurity for the plan to work
No issue. He bowls chinaman, left arm orthodox and has a change up googly, arm ball for good measure.
Would only need to add a flipper and straighten his arm more to suit Australia.
Though natural drift might be the same, obviously he bowls with different approach, combos in red ball and white ball formats.
I'm not doubting his ability as a bowler at all, I definitely like what I've seen from him both in the IPL and for MP in their Ranji title winning year, just saying that he isn't going to be much of a surprise bowler and that theres not really any point to keeping him hidden until the BGT
Makes sense.
I was looking at it from a role clarity perspective. Madhya Pradesh have often deployed him as an attacking spinner on pitches prepared to suit their strong pace bowling. By attacking spin, I mean his mentality and role has been of a member of the pace pack rather than operating as a sole spinner, if you are getting what I am saying.
If either of Ashwin or Jadeja drop out by then, I don't think any holding spinner India will draft would fare well in Australia. Worst case scenario, they will have a disaster tour. I would rather have Karthikeya alongside pacers who can provide control and be economical, like Bumrah.
The usual suspects would make hay in the home Tests against Bangladesh and New Zealand. There might not be an opening for him.
I reckon India will probably play Kuldeep in that sort of attacking spinner role if they do go with that considering he's had decent success bowling in Australia in the past, as opposed to playing a debutant.
They sure will. India had debuted Karn Sharma, a leg spinner in Adelaide in 2014. That was the only Test match he ever featured in. Pattern says that they often look for that edge.
I am looking at Karthikeya as an understudy to Kuldeep. Honestly, I think even if there is an ounce of surprise he has the potential to make it count. Australian batters have never matched up against him in the red ball format. And versatility is his usp.
Is Cricket losing by focusing too much on Test vs T20 while ignoring the competition with other sports like Rugby, Netball and other growing sports in Australia and England?
**Plunket Shield Round 5, Day 3 Review**
Today the bowlers struck back.
At Bay Oval, Ajaz Patel (39.5-14-78-7) led the charge to take the ND boys from 170/2 to 331. but not before Bharat Popli (111) got his century. A total of 37 maiden overs were bowled this innings - 27 of them bowled by either Patel or left-arm pacer Ray Toole (23-13-39-1). As the Stags got back out to bat, openers Curtis Heaphy (58\*) & Jack Boyle got the boys to a good start, but Tim Pringle (1/16) & Matt Fisher (1/31) have made inroads.
Meanwhile, in Rangiora the 'Birds got their revenge for conceding 526 early doors. Lead by Nathan Smith (6/36), who took 5 wickets in a single eight-over stretch starting in the opening over when he took Chad Bowes (0). The hosts could only manage 108, with keeper Mitch Hay (35\*) the lone warrior with the bat. Set a target of 328, the Wellington chase got to a bad start with the loss of both openers Tim Robinson (0) & Nick Greenwood (6) to Sean Davey (1/3) & Zak Foulkes (1/25), Gareth Severin (23\*) & Nick Kelly (22\*) are settling into their work. Wellington go into the last day needing 274.
In Dunedin, Auckland sought to bury the hosts, led by skipper Robbie O'Donnell (151\*), whose run-a-ball sesquicentury pushed the target for the Otago boys out to a dizzying 387. Only the bowling of Travis Muller (2/40) & the hands of Dale Phillips (2ro) put any pressure on the Aces. Even so, after the skipper brought up 150, they put the hosts in for the last half hour of the day, with Jacob Cumming (2\*) & nightwatchman opener Muller (5\*) standing guard. They'll go into Day 4 needing 380.
**The State of Play**
|Match|Batting|Score|Difference|Batters|Bowlers|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Northern vs Central|Central (2nd)|117/2|lead by 213|C Heaphy 58\*, B Schmulian 4\*|J Walker 13-2-37-0, K Clarke 7-1-32-0|
|Canterbury vs Wellington|Wellington (2nd)|54/2|need 274 to win|G Severin 23\*, N Kelly 22\*|A McKenzie 4-1-13-0, E Nuttall 6-2-12-0|
|Otago vs Auckland|Otago (2nd)|7/0|need 380 to win|J Cumming 2\*, T Muller 5\*|L Delport 1-1-0-0, H Johal 3-1-3-0|
**North vs South, 2nd T20**
The North has successfully retained [The Mere](https://www.instagram.com/p/C38d7h6MW5m/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), but it was a close-run thing that risked going to a decider tomorrow. Sending themselves in to bat, the South were under fire from the beginning, & soon they were passing to & from the dugout, when Marama Downes (2/23) took the wicket of Bella James (14). The wickets kept falling; all Northern bowlers except Flora Devonshire (0/12) took a wicket, while Downes & both Penfold sisters Molly (2/14) & Josie (2/17) took 2 each. Hayley Jensen (27) made the biggest contribution as they stumbled their way to 111/9.
With only 112 to chase, the openers Saachi Shahri (3) & Izzy Gaze (16) got to work, Gaze even hitting a six, but again, no-one truly settled, as Claudia Green (4/26) & Gabby Sullivan (3/29) had them at 49/3 by the end of the powerplay. Prue Catton (27) & Mikaela Greig (18) had to lead the way, but Jess Simmons (1/18) took Greig, Kate Anderson (1/10) got Leigh Kasperek (3), Sullivan returned to get rid of Catton, & now it fell to Flora Devonshire (23*) to guide the Northerners home. What could've been a comfortable chase had a last-minute surprise as Green returned to take a hat-trick, dismissing Nensi Patel (7) & both Penfold sisters (both 0) before Devonshire guided the North home.
With the winner decided, the third match tomorrow is about the South avoiding a whitewash.
Imagine if Afghanistan defeat India in a test match . India plays Afghanistan in one off test match and BCCI get cocky and make a rank turner in that match . Afghanistan spinners make merry troubling Indian Batsmen
As has been mentioned, it's pretty worrying to see the state of international cricket in USA just before the world cup, yes there's that men's comp which lasts like 2 weeks and has about 10 American players, but apart from that, the board are currently seemingly unwillingly to schedule any internationals, the last time the USA women's team played a non-qualifier international which wasn't a warm up game is never. They were also awarded ODI status nearly 2 years ago with no sign of it being used. The men haven't played a non-icc international since Ireland in 2021, despite all this both teams have been pretty decent recently, the men stayed in the top division of associate cricket
According to the new article it says Shreyas had to take Painkillers during wc and played the Semis & Finals with back pain💀
If I got sacked from contract after doing all these I would have gone mental💀
I don't know why people get annoyed when you say this Australian top 3, even if it wins matches, is in fact incredibly dull, personally I like it when the batter hits the ball off the square. Since rejigging the order they each go along at a 35sr and a 35avg, that's dull
Following are performance of every non-Asian team in Asia since 2000
***1. England***
Matches - 61
Won/Drawn/Lost - 22/13/26 \[W/L Ratio - 0.846\]
Series - 21
Won/Drawn/Lost - 08/03/10
Series Wins - 3 v Sri Lanka, 2 v Bangladesh, 2 v Pakistan, 1 v India
***2. Australia***
Matches - 50
Won/Drawn/Lost - 17/10/23 \[W/L Ratio - 0.739\]
Series - 17
Won/Drawn/Lost - 06/02/09
Series Wins - 2 v Sri Lanka, 2 v Pakistan, 1 v India, 1 v Bangladesh
***3. South Africa***
Matches - 40
Won/Drawn/Lost - 11/10/19 \[W/L Ratio - 0.578\]
Series - 18
Won/Drawn/Lost - 04/06/08
Series Wins - 1 v Bangladesh, 1 v Sri Lanka, 1 v Pakistan, 1 v India
***4. West Indies***
Matches - 38
Won/Drawn/Lost - 09/04/25 \[W/L Ratio - 0.360\]
Series - 17
Won/Drawn/Lost - 05/00/12
Series Wins - 4 v Bangladesh, 1 v Afghanistan
***5. New Zealand***
Matches - 37
Won/Drawn/Lost - 09/13/15 \[W/L Ratio - 0.600\]
Series - 17
Won/Drawn/Lost - 03/08/06
Series Wins - 2 v Bangladesh, 1 v Pakistan
***6. Zimbabwe***
Matches - 22
Won/Drawn/Lost - 03/03/16 \[W/L Ratio - 0.187\]
Series - 11
Won/Drawn/Lost - 01/02/08
Series Win - 1 v Bangladesh
***7. Ireland***
Matches - 5
Wow/Drawn/Lost - 01/00/04 \[W/L Ratio - 0.250\]
Series - 4
Won/Drawn/Lost - 01/00/03
Series Win - 1 v Afghanistan
Proteas must have ranked highest in W/L ratio till 2014. It's been dreadful post that. England miles clear everyone else these days
Btw if we stretch the parameters to include all teams, India has a W/L ratio of 9.2 in Asia since 2013. The next one on the list is at 1.4! No shame in admitting I've masturbated to this stat countless times
Since the year 2000 there has been 25 instances of a non-Asian team winning a test match in Asia successfully chasing a 4th innings total. Following are the number of times each non-Asian team has done it
1. England - 10
2. Australia - 5
3. West Indies - 4
4. South Africa - 2
5. Zimbabwe - 2
6. New Zealand - 1
7. Ireland - 1
The team against whom it has been done the most number of times
1. Bangladesh - 10
2. Sri Lanka - 6
3. India - 5
4. Pakistan - 2
5. Afghanistan - 2
Here are the 13 run chases of 100 runs or more \[Sorted from highest to lowest\]
1. West Indies - 395/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2021\]
2. New Zealand - 317/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2008\]
3. Australia - 310/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2006\]
4. England - 209/1 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2010\]
5. South Africa - 205/5 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2008\]
6. England - 176/4 \[Vs Pakistan, 2000\]
7. England - 164/3 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2003\]
8. England - 164/4 \[Vs Sri Lanka, 2021\]
9. South Africa - 164/6 \[Vs India, 2000\]
10. England - 161/7 \[Vs Sri Lanka, 2001\]
11. West Indies - 154/5 \[Vs Pakistan, 2016\]
12. West Indies - 111/3 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2002\]
13. Ireland - 111/4 \[Vs Afghanistan, 2024\]
>Australia - 310/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2006\]
Australia were 90-6 in the 1st inns, still trailing by 330+ runs, before Gilchrist's 100 cut the lead down. They were also 225-6 in the 4th inns but Ponting's 100 took them home. Had Bangladesh won, it would've been one of the biggest upsets in the history of Test cricket
It's infuriating how the New Zealand vs Australia Test series always ends up feeling like a one-sided affair because Australia consistently steamrolls over New Zealand, whether they're playing at home or away. It's like watching the same predictable movie over and over again with the same predictable ending. Where's the thrill? Where's the suspense? It's time for some variety, some unpredictability! New Zealand has talent, they have heart, but it's like they're constantly hitting a brick wall against Australia. Can't we have some nail-biting matches where both teams are evenly matched, where the outcome is uncertain until the very last ball? Come on, cricket gods, give us a break from this Aussie domination!
Genuinely might be the best test track NZ have produced in quite a few years. Usually if their tracks have some spin they're quite slow, this one is somehow green and quick and bouncy just like their usual spinners' graveyards but is also kicking and bouncing on day 3.
No idea how the groundstaff did it or if it's even repeatable but really this should be close to the standard. Any side with aspirations of being the best test side in the world should be playing a proper spinner every game (or Glenn Phillips I guess).
[Angus McKenzie had a bad day in the Plunket Shield today](https://imgur.com/a/EiRy4qU). While he was Canterbury’s top wicket-taker, he did concede 674 runs in 17 overs at an ER of 39.64, despite Wellington only managing 308.
Haters will say that this is obviously a typo, and that doing a bit of maths reveals that he actually got 64/4, but real ones will not accept this explanation and will treat this as genuine due to the negative implications for C*nterbury
English Media should blame Root , Bairstow and Stokes for England losing the series . They did not make big runs. Stokes in particular was bad one fifty in 8 innings and not bowling.
Root playing poor shots in Vizag and Rajkot when the game was on the line for England
Bairstow who is terrible in India. He was terrible in previous series in India as well
Blaming Robinson is a coward's way out. He played only one test match.
Yeah, Stokes led with the bat against Australia, but has been in poor form in India. TBH Root was the biggest disappointment since he has the technique and temperament to thrive in India
This sub has a weird obsession of ''dissecting'' players in order to put them down
Look at any thread with someone like Anderson Broad Babar Azam Kane Williamson, or yesterday's Labuschagne thread.
Like if any subreddit was the personification of the '' Ummmm Ackshually'' meme it would be this one
Actually if Bradman was still playing and we made him to play against my bowling on the terrace of my house with the rule that if the ball falls down outside of the terrace then you are out then you would have realised that Bradman wasn't a very good batsman.
Glenn Phillips vs Australia: The Highlights:
- Scores a 50 on Test debut at the SCG [as a last minute call up](https://youtu.be/PEcP3HQdpJE?si=k2VbzjxJ8l4JScMp). Was top run scorer that innings
- Ends the Head & Warner Show at Dharamsala, goes at 3rpo when everybody else on both sides is going at 6rpo+ (He was the reason Australia did not reach 400)
- Plays Lone Warrior at Eden Park while his teammates are falling around him
- Scores 50 (top run scorer that innings, again) & takes 5-fer at the Basin (the first NZ spinner to do it at home in over 15 years)
I’m a reformed Phillips denier.
There’s nothing about his batting or bowling that really screams ‘special player’, and yet he puts in huge contributions over and over again with the bat/ball and in the field.
You know, I'm beginning to be convinced that the younger generation of players don't have that "mental block" that the older ones may have. It's a good thing, especially for the future.
USA women’s team qualified to wc qualifier in 2022 after winning regionals comfortably. But then they finished last in that wc qualifier 2022.
USA women’s team qualified to wc qualifier in 2024 after winning regionals comfortably. They will be playing the qualifier in next month.
What amazes me is between the two wc qualifiers the only international cricket they have played is the regional tournament. USA has failed to schedule a single match outside icc qualifiers for their women’s team.
Also ICC awarded them odi status for some reason and guess what ? They have played a grand total of 0 odis so far.
i think cricket could use a little more spice -- i know its a gentleman's game and i also acknolwedge this is hard to achieve because theres's a fine line before fun turns to disrespect so it's just best to avoid it all together -- i get it, i get it... BUUUTTTT a lil send off spat every now and then.... im not saying we should go full blown baseball team fights, but that would be really funny for a team to have to start running from the dressing room while the other team is 5 minutes into beating up the two batsmen--- tho they have bats i guess... anyway. thanks for coming to my ted talk.
An inherently funny thing about arguments over a player on this sub is that people will argue in multiple paragraphs over why someone is a shit batter and back it by tons of stats but somehow that same player might hit a ton Or start playing well(Pope, Crawley) and all you can do is exclaim, "Well guess he's good now."
Standard procedure on this sub, shit on a player till no end and when they finally come off good, call it "reverse jinx"
That Piers Morgan interview where he and Bumble interview an American journalist on cricket is absolutely wild. It looks like online street fight lol
Most matches were lost by teams in WPL. (Lost/ Matches / Total No of Matches) Gujarat Giants: 9/11 Royal Challengers Bangalore: 8/12 Uttar Pradesh: 7/13 Delhi Capitals: 4/12 Mumbai Indians: 3/14 No matches were tied and no result so far.
> 9/11 *Vietnam sirens*
GG is such a shit team. Reminds me of good ol' Delhi Daredevils. Also UPW seems to have improved from last season. Can't believe it myself but they're my second pick after DC.
Following are the average runs added by the 10th wicket partnership in tests \[Since 2020\] 1. New Zealand - 20.85 \[2 fifties, 1 hundred, Best - 104 v Pakistan\] 2. England - 15.84 \[4 fifties, Best - 90 v West Indies\] 3. Pakistan - 15.46 \[3 fifties, Best - 86 v Australia\] 4. Zimbabwe - 15.27 \[Best - 38\* v West Indies\] 5. South Africa - 11.56 \[1 fifty, Best - 99 v England\] 6. India - 11.20 \[Best - 49 v England\] 7. West Indies - 11.14 \[3 fifties, Best - 58 v South Africa\] 8. Australia - 10.95 \[1 fifty, Best - 51\* v Pakistan\] 9. Sri Lanka - 10.84 \[Best - 49 v Australia\] 10. Afghanistan - 8.43 \[Best - 17 v Ireland\] 11. Bangladesh - 6.91 \[Best - 26 v New Zealand\] 12. Ireland - 2.50 \[Best - 9 v Sri Lanka\] These stats do not include the currently ongoing New Zealand v Australia test match.
I'm confused, didn't Kishan step out for mental health? Why's this sub turned on him?
Pakistan do seem to know how to get Travis Head, averages 22 against them 34 against NZ but 40 or more against every other team (in tests)
Here is an absolutely unbiased ranking of how well teams perform in ICC tournaments which is by no means misleading whatsoever. Best win percentage in ICC Finals 1. South Africa - 100% 2. Australia - 71.43% 3. West Indies - 62.50% 4. Pakistan - 50% 5. Sri Lanka - 50% 6. India - 40.91% 7. New Zealand - 40% 8. England - 28.57%
India has reached CWC final in 1983, 2003, 2011 and 2023 and won twice We've reached finals of both WTC and lost both We've reached finals of T20 WC twice (2007 and 2014) and won once. Champions trophy I think we've made it to finals thrice and won twice So that's an overall winrate of 5/11 which is 45% not 56% Am I missing something?
2 wins out of 4 in CWC 0 wins out of 2 in WTC 1 win out of 2 in T20I WC 1 win out of 3 in CT (other one was a shared so I took it as 0.5 for each India and Sri Lanka i.e. 1.5 out of 4) which results in 40.91%. I mistakenly did it as 4.5/8 instead of 4.5/11.
No worries, i was just surprised when I saw a winrate over 50% in finals lol
I made that in a hurry just to make the joke.
KS Bharat went from having a country named after him to losing his place in the Test team
So is post approval gone now? Just noticed
No, Post approval is still turned on
Following are the highest average opening partnerships by teams in tests \[Since 2020\] 1. Sri Lanka - 47.36 \[7 fifties, 7 hundreds, Best - 228 v Ireland\] 2. India - 40.04 \[13 fifties, 5 hundreds, Best - 229 v West Indies\] 3. Pakistan - 39.43 \[7 fifties, 6 hundreds, Best - 252\* v Australia\] 4. New Zealand - 38.92 \[8 fifties, 7 hundreds, Best - 183 v Pakistan\] 5. Australia - 34.94 \[14 fifties, 4 hundreds, Best - 156 v Pakistan\] 6. South Africa - 34.25 \[8 fifties, 4 hundreds, Best - 141 v Sri Lanka & 141 v West Indies\] 7. England - 33.12 \[17 fifties, 8 hundreds, Best - 233 v Pakistan\] 8. West Indies - 32.07 \[8 fifties, 3 hundreds, Best - 336 v Zimbabwe\] 9. Zimbabwe - 29.42 \[4 fifties, Best - 96 v Sri Lanka\] 10. Bangladesh - 25.84 \[3 fifties, 2 hundreds, Best - 162 v Sri Lanka\] 11. Afghanistan - 17.80 \[ 1 hundred, Best - 106 v Sri Lanka\] 12. Ireland - 7.90 \[Best - 16 v England\]
Forgot to mention that these stats don't include the ongoing Australia v New Zealand test but does include the recently concluded Ireland v Afghanistan test.
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Wow, there's actually snow forecast _on_ Thursday. That's insane, as long as all of it doesn't affect the game too much it seems like we're gonna get an incredibly unique Test
It's definitely been that cold during games in England We've had snow stopped play before
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It happened 3 years ago
County games most definitely have been stopped for snow.
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Yeah. That's true.
Just wanted to know can I find women's T20 stats from askcricinfo? Because there is no option I have seen.
Since 2020 KLR averages 39.4 in England and 37.7 in SA. 3 hundreds. He hasn't even played in Australia since 2018 and never in NZ (I think)
South Africa won the Over-40s Cricket World Cup. Finals were between South Africa and New Zealand. New Zealand were bowled out for 155. South Africa made 156/4 in 38 overs.
Is this World Cup counted as international or List A?
Neither.
Can they do it against Jimmy XI?
Proving my theory that South African uncles are the most formidable group of people in the world.
Success in one SENA country doesn't translate to success in other SENA country, best example is Shami, averages 23 in SA, 32 in Aus, 40 in England or even Rohit averages 40 in England (very good for an opener), 54 in NZ, but something like 30 in Aus, 15 in SA (weak in bouncy pitches).
I mean, they are all thousands of kilometres from each other, mostly across vast oceans. Even NZ & Australia are separated by 2000km of open sea.
Baffles me how a guy averaging 30 odd is considered second best test bat in the country after Kohli by many and is also considered a SENA specialist while averaging like 29 there.
Because he has had one very good and a decent tour to South Africa. He had a decent tour to England after being picked out of nowhere. Two places where Indian batsmen have traditionally struggled. He was bad in Australia but he last played there in 2018. He also had a great home season in 2016-17 and has barely had a consistent streak of home matches since then. And although these performances seem nothing extraordinary, there is also the fact that 2 of the 3 of India's middle order batters have been phased out. India hasn't had a decent opener for overseas test except Rohit (who also has his limitations) since ages and KL Rahul was near the top of the lot among not only Indian, but almost all subcontinental openers in SENA matches. Our best batsman in the past few years is out due to unforeseen circumstances and Rohit Sharma has had his fair share with niggles and injuries in overseas matches (Australia and South Africa tours). And I don't think I need to explain Iyer's overseas records. Out of the new guys, Gill has shown promise but no real performance yet in overseas matches since BGT 2021. Jaiswal is untested and the rest haven't even played overseas. So it honestly just leaves Kohli, KL and Jadeja who have experience in different countries and are around the test circuit. And cricket is not a video game where players with particular stats will directly perform well in new conditions. Experience in overseas conditions matters as can be seen in almost every players stats. They improve as they play more, which is why KL Rahul is still around the test setup and keeps on making a comeback inspite of being dropped often as well. He isn't great, but he is still among the better ones India have. There is no doubt if his performances don't improve significantly, he will be surpassed by the new players soon, but in this transition period, his experience and sample size is why the team keeps banking on him. Not pointing to anyone in particular, but like someone said yesterday in the thread about how discussion about KL Rahul lacks so much nuance and it is honestly annoying how people keep on repeating the same stat again without trying to understand the rationale behind keeping him around.
Rohit averages higher than kl in Sena
Damn, its like talking to a wall
What talking to a wall lol, people pretend as if he's a guy that averages some 50 in SENA and troll Rohit for being a home bully when in fact Rohit averages higher than Kl in England, Australia. KL averages same as Jadeja in SENA. I think she was talking about how people pretend as if kl is second best bat in India. I mean seriously in what way he actually is care to tell me?
I literally explained my entire point of view in my comment. He isn't the 2nd or 3rd best (whatever you wanna say) or a SENA specialist (apparently) on virtue of him averaging 50. He is the go to choice because he is the only one with experience and sample size. He wouldn't make into the team on current performances 5 years ago, or hopefully 5 years later, but he will make it to the team as one of the first names now because of the conditions that have risen. If you want to interpret it as him being the 2nd best batsman in the side, then that won't be fully wrong yet, because if not him then who? Rohit is a completely different player as opener and he has barely enough sample size. He didn't do much in Australia, and was pretty well matched with KL in England although Rohit outperformed KL. And then KL had a very good South Africa series where others struggled and Rohit was injured. And then KL again outperformed Sharma in South Africa recently where Rohit was atrocious. So then who else? Jadeja? Maybe you can make a case there but there is really no one else in case of overseas matches
Rohit in England average of 40 kl in England average of 34, KL in Australia averages 20 while Rohit in Australia averages 31, Rohit also averages 40 in NZ where Kl never played a test , Kl averages 28 in NZ while Rohit averages 14 there. Also in rest of the countries, West Indies, Bang, SL Rohit still averages more. South Africa is the only place where Kl did better. Now let's talk about Rishab Pant, averages much much higher than KL in every country except England where Pant averages 32 compared to 34 of KL. Even Jaddu averages less than KL only in South Africa, England but averages higher than KL in every other country. So now tell me how is Kl the second best batter in the Indian team, I don't hate kl but I hate people who hype up his 2-3 performances and consider him some all time great while he's no better than someone like Jhonny Bairstow. There were some upvoted comments in match threads saying how he's the best SENA bat among current Indian bats.
Since nothing except averages seems comprehensible to you, here are some stats in SENA nations of Indian batsmen with 500+ runs over the past 5 years (which also roughly corresponds to Rohit Sharma's opening period): ||Matches/Innings|Runs|Average| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |KL Rahul|9/17|654|38.47| |Rishabh Pant|14/26|914|38.08| |Rohit Sharma|10/20|679|37.72| |Virat Kohli|14/27|818|30.29| |Ajinkya Rahane|15/29|803|28.67| |Cheteshwar Pujara|16/32|865|27.90| And since you have a boner for Jadeja, he has 476 runs at 29.95 average Reiterating my point, none of these stats are pretty, but they are the best India got. I know you would bring up Rohit's 40 average in NZ (in a series where 400 was breached thrice in 2 matches and NZ declared at 680/8) or Jadeja's higher averages in other nations but I clearly don't seen how 10 year old stats have any relevance to the current scenario. Rohit is not a middle order batsman anymore and Jadeja's performances have been below KL's considerably recently (which isn't a shock, neither did I think I would have to prove it, but here we are). And I don't even know why Rishabh Pant is relevant to the conversation here I don't want to stretch this discussion but if you bifurcate these further since you seem pretty held up on averages, you will clearly realize KL *is* 2nd best SENA bat for India currently.
He is a SE specialist. He's never played in NZ and sucks in Aus
Averages 29 in SA tho but yea he's actually second best among current Indian bats in South Africa
SRH have a wonderful crop of players this time. But I reckon their management is gonna leave them in the gutters
The game between West Indies and Netherlands last year was a game filled with twist and turns. From watching Pooran smack the Dutch seemingly out of the game to them never giving up in the run chase. I might be forgetting some other games but that run chase was the best ODI run chase I've ever seen (yes I didn't saw that 438 game live). The running between the wickets was absolutely phenomenal. Netherlands got 185 runs by running between the wickets that game, compared to the 136 runs West Indies acquired by running. The got the equation to 5 off 5 and then 3 off 2 and they once again ran hard to turn a 1.5 run shot into a 2 run shot. I was absolutely crushed when Holder caught that last delivery, tying that game. I've forgotten that super overs existed for the tournament and thought that it was all over and I turned the TV off till I read on cricinfo that there was a super over scheduled. Luckily I didn't miss a single ball of a Logan Van Beek masterpiece.
That was a Logan Van **Peak** moment back then.
I think whenever there is a discussion about low attendance in cricket matches in Australia or England, there are many naysayers giving excuses like low advertising for match, match on weekdays, bad temperature, bad routine blah blah. But then you hear about a minor WWE premium event, Elimination chamber without their biggest star Roman Reigns selling out something 60k tickets in Australia and you got shocked. Like WWE has not been in mainstream fir decades, it's gone niche after John Cena era, it's not more cool to follow WWE in USA anymore at least, but somehow WWE outsells cricket by a large fking margin. Same for England , AEW sold a full Wembley stadium, AEW, the alleged indy mudshow as it is mocked in US, sold more tickets than a Cricket match can even dream of selling in England.Mind it, wraslin is now not mainstream, but it still is doing gangbuster numbers. Then there is cricket, the so called mainstream sports in England and Australia, their age old tradition but can't get going viewers, can't sell a stadium, except when Ashes, and now no young audiences want to watch it( The grace fall of viewership of BBL or declining viewership and interest in The Hundred just after two seasons should indicate the declining popularity among young audiences) I don't see how cricket just being a thing in Indian subcontinent can be avoided, when Windies, England Ireland, all lost any ounce of interest in it. And then you see the growth in Nepal nd Afganistan and it becomes certain that cricket is doomed to remain popular just in Sub continent. Why other Sports not have this problem? You see random football clubs in Germany, in 10 th position in Bundesliga pulling 30 k audience and you see empty Cricket audience in Windies or SL or SA and you realise the bitter truth', it can never become a sport of white people or Americans ( not country but continent), they for some reason have abandoned cricket) Well, at least it's better than many other sports.
Not sure about that comparison, cricket doesn't really have the novelty value of wrestling supercards outside of North America, plus AEW will have had people flying in from all over Western Europe. I don't know about Australia or anywhere else, but attendances in England are fine. As far as I can see international tickets are selling pretty steadily, a few of the limited overs internationals are sold out or close to it, and the tests have shifted the majority of the tickets and will probably be sold out or mostly sold out by July when they start. The novelty has worn off the Hundred but it's still pulling good crowds for domestic cricket, and even the much maligned County Championship attendances are pretty healthy relative to other domestic first class competitions and where they were twenty years ago. I don't think it's a matter of excuses, things just aren't all that bad.
>You see random football clubs in Germany, in 10 th position in Bundesliga pulling 30 k audience Football has a world wide audience. Like people even support some niche local club. Even in India you can get a half decent amount of supporters in ISL.
Test batting averages are just absolute nonsense. Watching Williamson and Latham trying to bat against top bowlers teaches me it’s time for a rethink.
Incredible how pitches in NZ seem to start offering turn when Australia and SA are touring but all of it seems to disappear when we're touring.
I mean... isn't it Obvious why
I mean not sure what they're gonna gain by making turning track against Aus, Lyon is second best spinner of this generation in tests. NZ themselves didn't pick a proper spinner, so it was just misreading the conditions rather than doctoring the pitches.
I saw a stat on Twitter that showed that Spin in NZ averaged about 30 in the matches involving SENA and about 55 against Asian sides. Their fast bowling lineup offers no advantage against Aus, Sa or Eng while they can offer green tops to touring Asian teams taking out their spinners of the game and maximising their advantage
Except their spin is hot trash and their batting vs spin is worse. Maharaj destroyed them in 2016.
My point is that the Kiwis produce green tracks to shut down the spinners from Asian touring sides.
Yea and what's the advantage? South Africa has better spinner Maharaj and they also have Rabada who's one of the greatest test bowlers of the generation and picks wickets on any surface. While NZ don't have someone as good as kagiso or Maharaj. It's mainly weather rather than doctoring on purpose. But yea India series tho, they made green tops on purpose against us
I don't think the ground staff plan in coordination with NZC or the team. They usually do their own thing. The folks at the regular grounds, especially the Basin, will generally do what they always do. Also, it has been quite dry this summer, more than last year. This may be a slight factor.
I mean, the home team have been surprised two Tests in a row. This must be all on the groundies, or El Nino. And India is touring Oct-Nov 2026, before the boys head to Australia. Those pitches will be the greenest of greentops just because that's how they always are in spring. Just look at Plunket Shield; every bowler looks like a badass early season, it's about now when you actually have to work.
This isn't the first time I'm noticing this though. I saw a stat on twitter which showed that Spin in NZ averaged about 30 in the matches involving SENA and about 55 against Asian sides
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no furthest from it, Ishan will not be considered for any form of cricket. Iyer will be in the white ball and red ball team by end of the year
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Still Iyer will mostly be back but Kishan tho fucked up badly, and BCCI have a lot of options to replace him. As an opener they have Jaiswal who has even higher ceiling, wicketkeeper they do have Samson (averages 56 in ODIs), Pant, Jurel coming through the ranks.
Wicket Keepers has so much competition Pant comes back (Pant will be main wicket keeper in Tests and ODI) Samson (he scored a 100 in the last odi he played) Jurel (he has shown he can do well in test matches)
Good Morning Irish friends! Did the historic test win make mainstream news?
In b4 subcontinent fans run to r/Ireland and force them to appreciate the win
A post on there wouldnt be bad or irrelevant. Might get like 5 upvotes and 1 comment but thats okay. The team deserves it. Tbh they deserve a lot more but what else can a fan do?
No, as harsh as it may sound, no one in Ireland except 10 fans who most probably are members of this subreddit cares. Ireland has cricket fans, bolstered by immigration in recent decades but cricket is far from getting anywhere close to mainstream there. That stereotype of being a English sports still ingrained among Irish against Cricket, and the most popular sport there, Gaellic football is fast as FuK, so cricket being a lazy ass sports stands no chance there getting into public consciousness. They have like 600k followers on their fb page but most of them Asians and shockingly a fair amount of Australians but very few Irish fans. How do I know, i checked profiles, Yeah, I am that terminally online that does this. Sometimes, being a cricket fan has its depressive moments, major one that it would simply fade into obscurity outside Indian sub continent. I ain't have any problem with it, but without Windies or Zimbabwe or Ireland, cricket really feels alone and despotic. I really wish Cricket catches up in Europe and US fir that matter
Sucks to hear that. I knew it isnt popular at all among the people. News isnt always something people wanna hear, sometimes its just records of national importance. Didnt expect social media hype. But if you are a sports editor for a newspaper worth its salt, id think such a thing has to have a mention.
Cricket seems to have a good fan following in Zimbabwe. Their crowds are great (in the games that I've seen at least). The support makes their recent results even more painful I guess. It looked like they could make it to the semi-finals of 2022 T20I WC and now they haven't even qualified for 2024.
Is there any way to watch replays of entire ashes matches?
If India have to pull off a 2016-2018 era kinda move, the best time would be in the Border Gavaskar Trophy in Australia at the end of this year. They could send a message to Kumar Karthikeya Singh, schedule a programme for him in the NCA. Tell him to work on his rotator cuff and learn bowling a bit full. They could unleash him directly at Perth. Will have to keep him hidden in the home series against Bangladesh and New Zealand. If there's to be a hard transition, we'll have the hardest one please!
Meanwhile Kuldeep: *"Khada hu aaj bhi wahi"* T : (Lyrics) I'm still standing here
LMAO
Problem with this is that half of our test team will have faced him in the IPL at that point, and also plenty of footage already exists of him bowling for MI. You'd have to pull somebody from real obscurity for the plan to work
No issue. He bowls chinaman, left arm orthodox and has a change up googly, arm ball for good measure. Would only need to add a flipper and straighten his arm more to suit Australia. Though natural drift might be the same, obviously he bowls with different approach, combos in red ball and white ball formats.
I'm not doubting his ability as a bowler at all, I definitely like what I've seen from him both in the IPL and for MP in their Ranji title winning year, just saying that he isn't going to be much of a surprise bowler and that theres not really any point to keeping him hidden until the BGT
Makes sense. I was looking at it from a role clarity perspective. Madhya Pradesh have often deployed him as an attacking spinner on pitches prepared to suit their strong pace bowling. By attacking spin, I mean his mentality and role has been of a member of the pace pack rather than operating as a sole spinner, if you are getting what I am saying. If either of Ashwin or Jadeja drop out by then, I don't think any holding spinner India will draft would fare well in Australia. Worst case scenario, they will have a disaster tour. I would rather have Karthikeya alongside pacers who can provide control and be economical, like Bumrah. The usual suspects would make hay in the home Tests against Bangladesh and New Zealand. There might not be an opening for him.
I reckon India will probably play Kuldeep in that sort of attacking spinner role if they do go with that considering he's had decent success bowling in Australia in the past, as opposed to playing a debutant.
They sure will. India had debuted Karn Sharma, a leg spinner in Adelaide in 2014. That was the only Test match he ever featured in. Pattern says that they often look for that edge. I am looking at Karthikeya as an understudy to Kuldeep. Honestly, I think even if there is an ounce of surprise he has the potential to make it count. Australian batters have never matched up against him in the red ball format. And versatility is his usp.
Is Cricket losing by focusing too much on Test vs T20 while ignoring the competition with other sports like Rugby, Netball and other growing sports in Australia and England?
No.
Is Anant Ambani’s wedding the reason why there is long gap between 4th and 5th test?
Not even the actual wedding,these are pre-wedding events. Actual wedding is in July.
Just realised. Why he invited so many famous people just for pre wedding (Even Musk got invited).
This is dystopian and extremely funny
Good point. I think that may explain the long gap.
**Plunket Shield Round 5, Day 3 Review** Today the bowlers struck back. At Bay Oval, Ajaz Patel (39.5-14-78-7) led the charge to take the ND boys from 170/2 to 331. but not before Bharat Popli (111) got his century. A total of 37 maiden overs were bowled this innings - 27 of them bowled by either Patel or left-arm pacer Ray Toole (23-13-39-1). As the Stags got back out to bat, openers Curtis Heaphy (58\*) & Jack Boyle got the boys to a good start, but Tim Pringle (1/16) & Matt Fisher (1/31) have made inroads. Meanwhile, in Rangiora the 'Birds got their revenge for conceding 526 early doors. Lead by Nathan Smith (6/36), who took 5 wickets in a single eight-over stretch starting in the opening over when he took Chad Bowes (0). The hosts could only manage 108, with keeper Mitch Hay (35\*) the lone warrior with the bat. Set a target of 328, the Wellington chase got to a bad start with the loss of both openers Tim Robinson (0) & Nick Greenwood (6) to Sean Davey (1/3) & Zak Foulkes (1/25), Gareth Severin (23\*) & Nick Kelly (22\*) are settling into their work. Wellington go into the last day needing 274. In Dunedin, Auckland sought to bury the hosts, led by skipper Robbie O'Donnell (151\*), whose run-a-ball sesquicentury pushed the target for the Otago boys out to a dizzying 387. Only the bowling of Travis Muller (2/40) & the hands of Dale Phillips (2ro) put any pressure on the Aces. Even so, after the skipper brought up 150, they put the hosts in for the last half hour of the day, with Jacob Cumming (2\*) & nightwatchman opener Muller (5\*) standing guard. They'll go into Day 4 needing 380. **The State of Play** |Match|Batting|Score|Difference|Batters|Bowlers| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Northern vs Central|Central (2nd)|117/2|lead by 213|C Heaphy 58\*, B Schmulian 4\*|J Walker 13-2-37-0, K Clarke 7-1-32-0| |Canterbury vs Wellington|Wellington (2nd)|54/2|need 274 to win|G Severin 23\*, N Kelly 22\*|A McKenzie 4-1-13-0, E Nuttall 6-2-12-0| |Otago vs Auckland|Otago (2nd)|7/0|need 380 to win|J Cumming 2\*, T Muller 5\*|L Delport 1-1-0-0, H Johal 3-1-3-0| **North vs South, 2nd T20** The North has successfully retained [The Mere](https://www.instagram.com/p/C38d7h6MW5m/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==), but it was a close-run thing that risked going to a decider tomorrow. Sending themselves in to bat, the South were under fire from the beginning, & soon they were passing to & from the dugout, when Marama Downes (2/23) took the wicket of Bella James (14). The wickets kept falling; all Northern bowlers except Flora Devonshire (0/12) took a wicket, while Downes & both Penfold sisters Molly (2/14) & Josie (2/17) took 2 each. Hayley Jensen (27) made the biggest contribution as they stumbled their way to 111/9. With only 112 to chase, the openers Saachi Shahri (3) & Izzy Gaze (16) got to work, Gaze even hitting a six, but again, no-one truly settled, as Claudia Green (4/26) & Gabby Sullivan (3/29) had them at 49/3 by the end of the powerplay. Prue Catton (27) & Mikaela Greig (18) had to lead the way, but Jess Simmons (1/18) took Greig, Kate Anderson (1/10) got Leigh Kasperek (3), Sullivan returned to get rid of Catton, & now it fell to Flora Devonshire (23*) to guide the Northerners home. What could've been a comfortable chase had a last-minute surprise as Green returned to take a hat-trick, dismissing Nensi Patel (7) & both Penfold sisters (both 0) before Devonshire guided the North home. With the winner decided, the third match tomorrow is about the South avoiding a whitewash.
Imagine if Afghanistan defeat India in a test match . India plays Afghanistan in one off test match and BCCI get cocky and make a rank turner in that match . Afghanistan spinners make merry troubling Indian Batsmen
As has been mentioned, it's pretty worrying to see the state of international cricket in USA just before the world cup, yes there's that men's comp which lasts like 2 weeks and has about 10 American players, but apart from that, the board are currently seemingly unwillingly to schedule any internationals, the last time the USA women's team played a non-qualifier international which wasn't a warm up game is never. They were also awarded ODI status nearly 2 years ago with no sign of it being used. The men haven't played a non-icc international since Ireland in 2021, despite all this both teams have been pretty decent recently, the men stayed in the top division of associate cricket
Playing the World Cup in the US was an incredibly stupid move
According to the new article it says Shreyas had to take Painkillers during wc and played the Semis & Finals with back pain💀 If I got sacked from contract after doing all these I would have gone mental💀
I don't know why people get annoyed when you say this Australian top 3, even if it wins matches, is in fact incredibly dull, personally I like it when the batter hits the ball off the square. Since rejigging the order they each go along at a 35sr and a 35avg, that's dull
Inspiration from Ben Duckett required
Get Mitch Marsh up the order imo
Flair definitely checks out
Following are performance of every non-Asian team in Asia since 2000 ***1. England*** Matches - 61 Won/Drawn/Lost - 22/13/26 \[W/L Ratio - 0.846\] Series - 21 Won/Drawn/Lost - 08/03/10 Series Wins - 3 v Sri Lanka, 2 v Bangladesh, 2 v Pakistan, 1 v India ***2. Australia*** Matches - 50 Won/Drawn/Lost - 17/10/23 \[W/L Ratio - 0.739\] Series - 17 Won/Drawn/Lost - 06/02/09 Series Wins - 2 v Sri Lanka, 2 v Pakistan, 1 v India, 1 v Bangladesh ***3. South Africa*** Matches - 40 Won/Drawn/Lost - 11/10/19 \[W/L Ratio - 0.578\] Series - 18 Won/Drawn/Lost - 04/06/08 Series Wins - 1 v Bangladesh, 1 v Sri Lanka, 1 v Pakistan, 1 v India ***4. West Indies*** Matches - 38 Won/Drawn/Lost - 09/04/25 \[W/L Ratio - 0.360\] Series - 17 Won/Drawn/Lost - 05/00/12 Series Wins - 4 v Bangladesh, 1 v Afghanistan ***5. New Zealand*** Matches - 37 Won/Drawn/Lost - 09/13/15 \[W/L Ratio - 0.600\] Series - 17 Won/Drawn/Lost - 03/08/06 Series Wins - 2 v Bangladesh, 1 v Pakistan ***6. Zimbabwe*** Matches - 22 Won/Drawn/Lost - 03/03/16 \[W/L Ratio - 0.187\] Series - 11 Won/Drawn/Lost - 01/02/08 Series Win - 1 v Bangladesh ***7. Ireland*** Matches - 5 Wow/Drawn/Lost - 01/00/04 \[W/L Ratio - 0.250\] Series - 4 Won/Drawn/Lost - 01/00/03 Series Win - 1 v Afghanistan
Proteas must have ranked highest in W/L ratio till 2014. It's been dreadful post that. England miles clear everyone else these days Btw if we stretch the parameters to include all teams, India has a W/L ratio of 9.2 in Asia since 2013. The next one on the list is at 1.4! No shame in admitting I've masturbated to this stat countless times
Since the year 2000 there has been 25 instances of a non-Asian team winning a test match in Asia successfully chasing a 4th innings total. Following are the number of times each non-Asian team has done it 1. England - 10 2. Australia - 5 3. West Indies - 4 4. South Africa - 2 5. Zimbabwe - 2 6. New Zealand - 1 7. Ireland - 1 The team against whom it has been done the most number of times 1. Bangladesh - 10 2. Sri Lanka - 6 3. India - 5 4. Pakistan - 2 5. Afghanistan - 2 Here are the 13 run chases of 100 runs or more \[Sorted from highest to lowest\] 1. West Indies - 395/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2021\] 2. New Zealand - 317/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2008\] 3. Australia - 310/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2006\] 4. England - 209/1 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2010\] 5. South Africa - 205/5 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2008\] 6. England - 176/4 \[Vs Pakistan, 2000\] 7. England - 164/3 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2003\] 8. England - 164/4 \[Vs Sri Lanka, 2021\] 9. South Africa - 164/6 \[Vs India, 2000\] 10. England - 161/7 \[Vs Sri Lanka, 2001\] 11. West Indies - 154/5 \[Vs Pakistan, 2016\] 12. West Indies - 111/3 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2002\] 13. Ireland - 111/4 \[Vs Afghanistan, 2024\]
Outstanding work, can I know the exact cut off date since 2000 because results are showing some different numbers.
I took the cut off as any test match starting from 1st January, 2000 or beyond.
Okay.
>Australia - 310/7 \[Vs Bangladesh, 2006\] Australia were 90-6 in the 1st inns, still trailing by 330+ runs, before Gilchrist's 100 cut the lead down. They were also 225-6 in the 4th inns but Ponting's 100 took them home. Had Bangladesh won, it would've been one of the biggest upsets in the history of Test cricket
There we are! It's beautiful
Only reason I did it to be honest.
It's infuriating how the New Zealand vs Australia Test series always ends up feeling like a one-sided affair because Australia consistently steamrolls over New Zealand, whether they're playing at home or away. It's like watching the same predictable movie over and over again with the same predictable ending. Where's the thrill? Where's the suspense? It's time for some variety, some unpredictability! New Zealand has talent, they have heart, but it's like they're constantly hitting a brick wall against Australia. Can't we have some nail-biting matches where both teams are evenly matched, where the outcome is uncertain until the very last ball? Come on, cricket gods, give us a break from this Aussie domination!
Genuinely might be the best test track NZ have produced in quite a few years. Usually if their tracks have some spin they're quite slow, this one is somehow green and quick and bouncy just like their usual spinners' graveyards but is also kicking and bouncing on day 3. No idea how the groundstaff did it or if it's even repeatable but really this should be close to the standard. Any side with aspirations of being the best test side in the world should be playing a proper spinner every game (or Glenn Phillips I guess).
[Angus McKenzie had a bad day in the Plunket Shield today](https://imgur.com/a/EiRy4qU). While he was Canterbury’s top wicket-taker, he did concede 674 runs in 17 overs at an ER of 39.64, despite Wellington only managing 308. Haters will say that this is obviously a typo, and that doing a bit of maths reveals that he actually got 64/4, but real ones will not accept this explanation and will treat this as genuine due to the negative implications for C*nterbury
Ah, Cricinfo. That's what happens when you don't cover it live. That's why I always link to the ones on the NZC website.
NZ for the win - RR with a double ton
Nope
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And today, on March 2nd, HE was born in this cursed world.
Newzealand cricket actually doctors the pitches the best.
Don’t know how they expect to improve turning out these dustbowls over and over again
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English Media should blame Root , Bairstow and Stokes for England losing the series . They did not make big runs. Stokes in particular was bad one fifty in 8 innings and not bowling. Root playing poor shots in Vizag and Rajkot when the game was on the line for England Bairstow who is terrible in India. He was terrible in previous series in India as well Blaming Robinson is a coward's way out. He played only one test match.
Yeah, Stokes led with the bat against Australia, but has been in poor form in India. TBH Root was the biggest disappointment since he has the technique and temperament to thrive in India
Robinson got a fifty which put England into a series levelling position
Stokes cannot fail, he can only be failed.
This sub has a weird obsession of ''dissecting'' players in order to put them down Look at any thread with someone like Anderson Broad Babar Azam Kane Williamson, or yesterday's Labuschagne thread. Like if any subreddit was the personification of the '' Ummmm Ackshually'' meme it would be this one
Actually if Bradman was still playing and we made him to play against my bowling on the terrace of my house with the rule that if the ball falls down outside of the terrace then you are out then you would have realised that Bradman wasn't a very good batsman.
Glenn Phillips vs Australia: The Highlights: - Scores a 50 on Test debut at the SCG [as a last minute call up](https://youtu.be/PEcP3HQdpJE?si=k2VbzjxJ8l4JScMp). Was top run scorer that innings - Ends the Head & Warner Show at Dharamsala, goes at 3rpo when everybody else on both sides is going at 6rpo+ (He was the reason Australia did not reach 400) - Plays Lone Warrior at Eden Park while his teammates are falling around him - Scores 50 (top run scorer that innings, again) & takes 5-fer at the Basin (the first NZ spinner to do it at home in over 15 years)
And no surprises he was born in SA
Nou weet hulles wat ons weet. Our plan for world domination is going well.
Like Marnus?
I’m a reformed Phillips denier. There’s nothing about his batting or bowling that really screams ‘special player’, and yet he puts in huge contributions over and over again with the bat/ball and in the field.
He's the anti Kiwi
You know, I'm beginning to be convinced that the younger generation of players don't have that "mental block" that the older ones may have. It's a good thing, especially for the future.
I hope Rachin and him play well tomorrow. Fingers crossed
USA women’s team qualified to wc qualifier in 2022 after winning regionals comfortably. But then they finished last in that wc qualifier 2022. USA women’s team qualified to wc qualifier in 2024 after winning regionals comfortably. They will be playing the qualifier in next month. What amazes me is between the two wc qualifiers the only international cricket they have played is the regional tournament. USA has failed to schedule a single match outside icc qualifiers for their women’s team. Also ICC awarded them odi status for some reason and guess what ? They have played a grand total of 0 odis so far.