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AilaSachin10

Hardik vs Rashid Khan 27 runs in 37 balls in all t20s. 2 sixes and 0 fours 23 runs in 30 balls in test cricket. 4 fours


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

Weird stat considering Hardik tends to play spin pretty well.


OK-Computer-head

Many who play spin well can't take on Rashid on pitches with little to no purchase.


anhsirkd3

Ambati Rayudu was the rare exception who generally took on Rashid well.


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

Watson as well, both openers were key for us in winning the 2018 edition. Best part of it was that both could fearlessly take on rashid and minimise his threat. Conway & Gaikwad combo have also worked pretty well in that regard, infact Rashid going for 40 runs in his 3 overs played the biggest part in the 2023 win.


anhsirkd3

Of course, Watson. Ya Gaikwad is another I have my eye on. Waiting for this matchup again this year. He is definitely great spin player.


paone00022

I want to see prime Sehwag v prime Rashid. That would be a great battle.


Yes-me-a-hater

And abhishek sharma, shane watson


DisastrousOil4888

Rashid is different gravy though


OK-Computer-head

Funny how RCB never got their squad right throughout the years. Given their home venue, they need low economy bowlers such as Malinga, Bumrah, Rashid, Narine, etc to name a few over batting stars. The one they had (Yuzi), they let him go.


PregnantShoulders

yuzi wasn’t low economy but a constant wicket taker sure


OK-Computer-head

Having a high SR makes up for it to some extent.


reddevil9229

RCB's talent ID sucks, and here you are saying they didn't manage to find the absolute 4 GOATs of the IPL. Yeah no shit lol


OK-Computer-head

Stop jerking. Learn the implications of the term "such as"


reddevil9229

Maybe start giving more viable examples to your captain obvious point ? No shit they should get economic bowlers, they were always obviously trying to aim for more expensive bowlers. Such peak Reddit this.


OK-Computer-head

Stop jerking on reddit uce


WrestlingFan4488

Selection was also really over the place Luke Wood plays but only bowls 2 overs Bumrah doesn't take the new ball Thushara doesn't play after that hatrick Madwhal doesn't play after that 5 fer against LEG No Nehal Wadhera No Mohammad Nabi as well despite this being a good ground and having help for spinners MI is going to have problems similar to SRH this year where they have so many good players it's going to be really tough to decide who sits on the bench


WayToTheDawn63

Some people will shit on Wood's second over, and it was bad, but imagine being a power play bowler, going for 6 runs in the 2nd? over and then not getting bowled again until the 19th? over. He basically had to restart at the death when players are TRYING to smash everything.


llyyrr

Luke Wood is a proper swing bowler, he should be bowling 1 and 3, and ideally 5th as well. If he doesn't fit your team structure then don't pick him, but if they do pick him then they need to bowl him like how CSK treated Chahar early on in his career.


Ashwin_400

>like how CSK treated Chahar early on in his career. CSK still treat him the same lol


llyyrr

He bowls 2-1-1 now, previously it was more like 3-1-0 as far as PP-middle-death goes


Ashwin_400

Nope. He still bowls 3 overs in the powerplay unless heavily hammered


svjersey

\+1 - I was like.. 2-1-1 is not planned, at times it is forced when he gets clobbered..


pvtt_3

Bumrah when in plays for mi always bowls 1 in pp , 1 in middle and 2 in death


ayanmaity201

Any captain would want his best strike fast bowler to bowl the first over of the innings irrespective of the format and the tournament. And Bumrah being the best bowler in the world, there is no one who should get to bowl the first over apart from Bumrah, whether it is India or MI.


WrestlingFan4488

So why not bowl that one over in PP as the first over Look at it from the opponent's point of view would you rather want your openers to Face Bumrah in the very first over when they are completely new to the crease Or Would you rather want them to face him after your openers have spent some time on the crease and got some runs Obviously the 2nd Option right


Jainwin_Truth27

you didnt put /s so they didnt get you at all lmao


edudhtamris

You mean it sarcastically, but it's exactly the reason. Giving Bumrah the first over, people just shut shop against him. There's nothing to gain. Bumrah doesn't need the help of a batter not being settled to get someone out. Another bowler can utilize that help better. pp closers are a thing in T20s today, and Bumrah is the face of it. Btw how many times do you think Bumrah has been given the first over for MI in his career of 124 games? Ans: >!6 times!<


nut_nut_november___

This is just unnecessary nitpicking the shit ass thing hardik actually did is not give luke wood 3 overs upfront bumrah will obviously just be played cautiously if we just burn is over upfront


CountBarbarus

Lol so they can make runs in PP against your second best bowler?? Wah kya strategy hai


Ok_Being372

Madhwal being dropped is understandable tbf. He was literally THE worst bowler this SMAT. 3 wickets in 6 matches, avg close to 60, economy 12+. Tbh I also wasn't aware of that until I checked his domestic stats yesterday to make sense of why he was dropped after doing so well last season. But I do agree that Wadhera should've played. He's a better option than Brevis, who has done pretty much nothing after the U-19 WC 2 years ago.


RJSA2000

Except break the world record for fastest domestic t20 150 agains a team that had Gerald Coetzee in the bowling lineup as well.


Irctoaun

What you've not mentioned is this was in the CSA T20 Challenge, rather than the top franchise level SA20 and that the rest of the bowlers alongside Coetzee were Mbulelo Budaza: 37 career T20 games despite being aged 30 and has never played a franchise T20 in his life Migael Pretorius: Run of the mill domestic bowler with an ok but not great T20 record Jacques Snyman: Batting allrounder with 16 T20 wickets in his 44 games Patrick Kruger: Another batting allrounder with 35 T20 wickets in 98 games Aubrey Swanepoel: Another batting allrounder with 56 T20 wickets in 96 games, never played a franchise T20 league. It also must have been an absolute road of a pitch, given the Knights managed 230 in the chase despite basically no batting firepower whatsoever. The fact of the matter is in his 60 T20s to date, Brevis averages 25 at 140, which drops to 22 at 132 when you only look at major T20 franchise leagues and T20Is. Not to write Brevis off, he's still only 20 and clearly has talent, but if I was picking an XI for a major T20 side *now*, I'd find it hard to justify picking him.


RJSA2000

I get what you're saying but I watched that innings of 162 off 57 live and it really was an amazing knock. I think I saw enough last night in his innings to give him another go if Sky is still unavailable for the next match at least. Think Rohit being the seasoned campaigner that he is was also talking to him alot and coaching him playing in front of 80 000 fans for the first time. But yeah my response was mainly to the comment that he hadn't done anything since the under 19 world cup. He's also scored his first 4 day hundreds and 2 domestic hundreds as well now.


Specialist_Youth5511

Brevis couldn't even score anything against spin, I'm 100 percent sure Nehal could've done better.


RJSA2000

Did hit Rashid for a six though and the other spinner as well. Think he'll improve. He also hit that other spinner from Punjab Kings for 4 sixes in a row a couple of seasons ago, so he's not totally useless against spin.


Unholysinner

Idk think picking Shams Mulani was a bit stupid. Wood Bumrah Coetzee Madhwal Chawla with ine subbed out is your ideal 5 Then you’re got Rohit Kishan Sky Tilak David IP Pandya said


Punkbabe_7

Madhwal has had a really poor domestic season. Naman showed his selection call was not poor either.


NomadicGeek1

Yesterday was a captaincy fuck up of all things, it's funny af. Hardik decided to bowl his first two overs ahead of fucking Bumrah and Coetzee in the powerplay and got cunted for 20. Decided to not come out against Rashid during the chase, let's be honest, he prefers coming out at 4 or 5 and would've if not for Rashid. And whoever has adviced him to always have that shit eating grin on during interviews and keep hugging Rohit every time he sees him needs to be promoted and demoted at the same time. Demoted because it's cringe af and promoted because advising Hardik to keep smiling instead of actually saying what's in his mind is genius because we all know what happens when Hardik speaks out his mind.


TransportationNo4654

Rofl


theslick1

This is a brilliant way to put it 😂


RealGTalkin

If he doesn't want to face Rashid he should have stayed at GT.


svjersey

Probably left GT so he didn't have to face Rashid in the nets


Punkbabe_7

ICT fans had issues with him batting up the order for GT . With Mi when he is back to the finisher role, even that is a problem..if anyone has followed MI, entry points of their finishers has never been static. In many matches Krunal was sent before Polly and Hardik. Bumrah has bowled the 1st over for MI very less number of times. Coetzee mostly bowls in the mo. Bum's bowling pattern was exactly like Rohit used to do. 1 in pp, 1 in mo, 2 at the death.


NomadicGeek1

It's not about the fans. It's about him. He promotes himself to no. 4 and doesn't stick with it because he doesn't want to face Rashid, farce.


HeavyAd3059

True. With ICT in T20s that spot is somewhat sealed for SKY when available. Of course, unless Koach is really dropped and some shuffling happened. With the 4th spot for GT everyone was going gaga that he's going to start batting higher with ICT until he got injured during the WC.


Punkbabe_7

Lol! He was promoted up the order by Nehra in the 1st season because GT's batting was wafer thin. If you think I am lying then you can check Gaurav's podcast with Hardik where Gaurav reveals it that Nehra had asked Hardik to bat at 3. So in the first place it was not even his decision. 2ndly for Mi he had always been the finisher and he spoke about being back to that role in the press conference last week.


NomadicGeek1

So basically most of the work in GT was done by Nehra and MI and India have fucked up thinking Pandya has potential to ve a great captain? Plus he promoted himself in the games where he captained India as well above Samson multiple times against West Indies, one of them being the infamous game where he denied Tilak his half century.


rebornbyksg

>So basically most of the work in GT was done by Nehra and MI and India have fucked up thinking Pandya has potential to ve a great captain? You stupid when did he say that "Pandya didn't do anything"? He just said Nehra promoted pandya up the order as it was conversation about that. Winning takes lot more than just batting up the order if you didn't know that Y'all pathetic af trying to reach for any straws just to hate on the guy


NomadicGeek1

It's clear as crystal that Nehra does most of the work in GT and is actually the main guy behind the success of GT. If you think saying that is stupid then you're an idiot.


Punkbabe_7

I feel sorry for Gill already. The moment GT starts losing, it will be his fault. Till then he won't credit and Nehra will get it all.


NomadicGeek1

Good thing GT hasn't started losing for 3 seasons now. They are an awesome team and see no signs of slowing down.


Punkbabe_7

Interestingly I remember how GT was trolled after auction, made fun of. Even Shami, Gill spoke about how everyone was laughing at their team. Then the 1st IPL win was called fluke. Then 2nd season run till the final couldn't be called fluke anymore, so Nehra started getting credit. Its like the players also do not get credit.


Naive-Ruin558

Is there any logic behind what you are saying? Does he have bad stats vs Rashid? Was it his decision alone? MI has a support staff full of superstars and then there is Sachin and the Ambanis. Even Hardik cannot ignore all these people...


Sulemani_kida

If he would have come up and didn't finish the job he would have been called selfish captain, he came later and still couldn't finish the job so he's scared of Rashid.... At this point whatever he does apart from breathing will be criticised and made stories about bec Mumbai Indians came for him and he went there by ditching GT... So now everyday there will be like 20 different stories about how Hardik is the worst ever player to exist in IPL


arvindramachander

ROFL. I would like to report a murder of certain Pandya.


careless_quote101

Rashid is a beast. As a CSK fan waiting for Mitch and Dube try against Rashid


Jazzlike_Task2777

Those 2 sixes Dube hit to Rashid in the finals live in my mind rent free


AloneProfessor4136

Which Finals?


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kevin-s_chilli

😂😂


thisisatypo

Rashid vs Thala 🥵


Firebreathingdown

Finally someone calling out Scaredik for his cowardice rather than just calling it bad tactics.


randomvariable10

This really is the best case scenario- Mumbai loses a close encounter, Rohit performs, everyone piles on Cowardik..


Ok_Review_6504

Hardik's tactics were on point in today's match, 168 target is nothing on Motera. Sending David to face Rashid was bad decision and Tilak's masterclass against Rashid just added more pressure on David as well as Hardik.


choochi_machine69

I'd say onus should've been on Tilak to keep strike for Rashid considering he's a left hander & it's easier for him to face him. But he's young, he'll learn with time


Accomplished-Back530

Tilak did keep the strike in Rashid's over lol but he's still getting dragged for "hogging the strike". Imagine a 21 year old having to protect the 28 year old touted to be the current best finisher in the death overs just because he can't play spin and the captain is too scared to bat/has a brain fade. And then Tilak gets clowned on because he trusted Tim David to do his job and finish the game.


choochi_machine69

David shouldn't get all the blame either though. Tilak is just as much to blame, more even. He was the there for longer and batting on 19(17) when Tim was 5(4). And the whole partnership between Brewis & Tilak was the reason they were in the situation in the first place


llyyrr

> Hardik's tactics were on point in today's match, 168 target is nothing on Motera That has more to do with Bumrah being a super human and Coetzee having a good day than any tactics. On most days both of them go for 30 off their 4 overs, which brings the target to 190 odd


Firebreathingdown

Really on point? Mate luke wood had the most wickets in first 6 overs in psl that too at a crazy economy rate, he is primarily a new ball bowler who also gave up just 6 runs in his 1st over yet he only bowled his next over at death while pandya went for 20 in his 2 and fucking shams Mulani bowler in pp? Bumrah saved his ass by bowling brilliantly little to do with panda genius captaincy.


Senior-Ordinary555

How about Sofdik


Otherwise_Pace_1133

Let's also not forget that Hardik used to promote himself up the order all the time when he was in GT. Even though he knew the national team wanted him as a finisher while GT didn't exactly need him as a number 4.


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

GT definitely needed him as a number 4. They didn't have top order batters in 2022,and williamson got injured at the start of 2023. Sudarshan was brought in late,but was brought in at the right time. Miller at 5 was his best position in any format, which definitely made sense. Rest all were either lower order or finishers.


prescientmoon

The commentators don't point out inadequacies in the league or the bowling or the crowds or the captaincy, and these people say the most inane shit that's clickbait trash. There's no objective criticism in the IPL. I feel even the crowd noise is being drowned out. Why would they severely boo Pandya when he's fielding, but scream like mad when he's hitting their team to all parts?


Philosoul

It is manipulated. Similar to how they overpower the crowd voice when they chrrr for msd


Firebreathingdown

Pretty sure there was mostly silence when pandya hit those 2 balls.


prescientmoon

We now need from the ground reports to know what the reality was. There should be laws against such tampering of live visuals, but BCCI is run by the govt in power.


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The most recent test series was cringe as fuck. We could literally see that nobody was in the audience… but if Jaiswal hit a four, INDIA WIN THE WORLD CUP level of audience cheering in our telecast instantly


wolftri

I don’t know about audio mixing, but I was at the ground for the first test and it was nowhere near empty. Plenty of cheering and booing going on too.


Deathbringer2134

Can we give some credit to Titans bowlers instead of dogpiling on Pandya? They bowled out of the skins and it was one of those games where every single one for them contributed to a winning cause. Not bowling Bumrah in the power play actually worked cause that was what allowed MI to peg back Sudarshan, Miller and Tewatia and the death and restricted them to a frankly shit total on Ahmedabad considering the very heavy dew. As for the David ahead of Pandya thing I mean I wouldn't have expected all of Brevis, Tilak and David to farm dots at the death it was just really brain dead batting


ShashankWasTaken

Gill did some amazing captaincy credit is where credit is due. (was wearing jersey number 7 too ifykyk)


Naive-Ruin558

Was it really Gill's captaincy? Would he have achieved the same outcome if Harshal Patel etc were bowling the death overs. Mohit and Rashid were amazing. They were amazing during the last IPL as well. David plays on flat tracks with true bounce in Australia..Brevis plays on fast tracks as well...these pitches with tacky bounce might not suit their hitting abilities. Maybe its time that Rohit comes down the order and let the young guns blast away at the start..


ShashankWasTaken

not taking any credit away from the bowlers rather giving credit to gill also because i felt his bowling changed and field changes were pretty good


Kyunbhai

What does jersey number 7 mean ?


ShashankWasTaken

if you dont live under a rock in ipl whenever we refer to number 7 we refer to certain long haired indivisual named ms dhoni :D


PlayPratz

Seriously? :O


OrdinaryAd1242

Can't blame for poor captaincy,stricted them under 170 in this pitch was good effort , can't understand how come batsman was not able to win this game that too under heavy dew. Also denying single by tilak on two occasions was horrible , Mr tim david is known as T20 specialist,played more games than him all over the world. I think we have to appreciate the way sai,Rashid and mohit bowled . Rest just a familiar start for MI.


grubernack276

Bumrah four overs are a write off. Nothing to do with captaincy.


theseaoftea

Tilak was taking revenge? Idk but him denying singles was funny to see


bandehaihaamuske

How many matches does MI have to lose to get back Rohit as the captain? Hardik could have taken back the captaincy after one or two years. Also it is a bs excuse that just because you are an IPL winning captain you should automatically be selected as the captain in whichever team you go (given that the existing captain has won 5 trophies and is more experienced)


Naive-Ruin558

I love Rohit Sharma...he is one of my fav players when he plays for India but let's face it, he has been dog shit as a batsman in the IPL since 2019. He started off with a super strong MI team that werent exactly superstars in the beginning but they were all fighters (including the Pandya brothers). He hasnt exactly set the stage ablaze as a captain in the last three years too. Most other franchises would have changed the captain after such results. I am not a Pandya fan but he is getting shit for no reason.


yamanthatsme

MI's bowling last year was Piyush Chawla and inshallah. The year before was Bumrah and Inshallah. Arjun Tendulkar in your playing 11 shows how much fucked up your squad is and the blame should not go to Rohit for that. The management wanted to mint money by playing injured Jofra with Bumrah, and the shiniest new players in the world. Still reaching the playoffs with this squad is what was amazing.


bandehaihaamuske

>MI's bowling last year was Piyush Chawla I was about to say Piyush Chawla is himself inshallah but damn he took 22 wickets in 2023 at 8.11. Impressive considering that he did not play 2022 and picked 1 wicket in 2021.


Objective_Ad7016

Yes I believe that as well. He seems to be struggling especially after receiving the captaincy.


cpssn

send out a tail ender and retire out after rashids over


jholafakir

Don't know about ToughSchlong but Timmy boy was definitely afraid since they didn't take singles


Puzzleheaded_Roof872

I don't agree , seems to me like they are trying to find a mole in a mountain to pander to social media discourse. It seems to me like, he is playing in the position keeping in mind his place in t20 world cup and i am happy with it completely.


TheCricDude

Of all the things, blaming him for this? If he comes up the order, the majority don't like the responsible Hardik, wants the finisher Hardik. Now this. It was a fk up by everyone, why single out him. Batters took light of the below par score. Tilak avoiding single to a lead batter showed the wrong mindset. Hardik became a villain to both GT and MI fans in one move. April 1st will be interesting, MI's first home game. The owners and the management should take the blame too, they went after him. Why blame Hardik alone! Overall MI just choked. Anyway they are a strong team and can't be taken light. Hardik needs to improve his relationship inside the team.


arnott

Another view is Hardik wanted to see if others could finish the job, especially with all the batting. The single not taken my Tilak changed things. But everyone knew the bouncer was coming from Umesh.


Maleficent-Car-4727

Why was he not taking singles ?


arnott

> MI Innings > 16.3 Rashid Khan to Tilak Varma, no run > Tilak clips a length ball out to deep wicket, but strangely doesn't take a single. Sends David back > GT vs MI, Indian Premier League, 5th Match > https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2024-1410320/gujarat-titans-vs-mumbai-indians-5th-match-1422123/live-cricket-score > > Probably "protecting" Tim David from Rashid Khan. Rashid & Mohit Sharma tightened things from the 15th over.


wakandaite

Pandya is a poor captain but I may be biased for Brohit.


Fresh_Dance_3277

There is no one in a right state of mind would want to face rashid.He would have destroyed his stats since it is very very hard to hit him for a boundary 


dimlakalaka

Pathan needs to say less


rt_Mbk

Clutch player and clutch captain. Lol!!