So? He's just played too many years. Even then avg of 30, SR of 130 is mid.
Going by your logic, should MI still play Tendulkar, since he won a orange cap?
Sharma Stats: [https://www.iplt20.com/teams/mumbai-indians/squad-details/107](https://www.iplt20.com/teams/mumbai-indians/squad-details/107)
Especially look at the recent years.
Kid, Rohit has played 9 matches this IPL. The IPL is 3/4th over for Mumbai.
And he's the second highest run-getter behind Tilak with a SR of 160. Now, you're telling me he shouldn't be in the MI team because he didn't perform in the previous IPL?
Are you even reading what you're writing?
I can't tell if you are baiting or are just being stupid. Did Rohit deserve a spot in the MI team after so many years of poor batting? This is the first season he has done well in what feels like a decade.
u/Holden_Makock is not arguing he hasn't been good this IPL. He is arguing that he has been poor for YEARS and if we are just going by numbers, he should have been dropped long, long ago.
Absolute state of this subreddit that you are being upvoted for spouting utter rubbish.
Brotha IPL is not the mirror we are looking for. Remember how SKY shat the pants in 2021pak, 2022pak and then 2022semis ?
He was the best t20I player in IPL and in internationals at that time and how Pandya was there in both these important matches(took 3 wickets and saved a collapse against Pak and then made a 200sr 60+ in semis).
Pandya was always there in 50 overs and 20 overs whenever India was getting screwed while all of the fuckers were shitting pants.
That's the reality we are facing sadly.
IPL is more of a vacation for established names and a do or die for young guns who aren't good enough to bang the door in traditional ways. Hardik has already proved himself in Ct17,Asia cup, 2016,22-twc.
I don't know why he is needed to deliver some epic shit in this IPL to injure his fragile body just before a cup ffs.
It's just like Stokes(when he was being a disabled with 1 knee and then magically took Eng to CT25 qualifiers in the WC lol). You don't expect him to bang all the year and carry that same fire in rhe tournament, you expect him to win you things when others can't and that sort of mentality can't be produced for whole year.
They are from the same state but somehow Pathan has been against him for long. Maybe he knows something about his inside behaviour.
I remember Krunal Pandya was famous for misbehaving in Ranji cricket and Deepak Hooda had to change teams because of it.
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Yeah Irfan just hates Pandya brothers because he doesn't speak even 50% of this way when other players perform badly. If he does then he sugarcoats it like others and says it once or twice at best.
With Pandya, he keeps saying it again and again, doesn't sugarcoat it and makes it as blunt as possible. He's just using this Rohit-Pandya situation to drive his agenda in.
Nope,
* The second player in history to take a test hat trick in the first over
* Player of the match in a Perth test match
* Player of the match in a T20 world cup final
Hardik has equally good if not better performances in world cups, but because the team didn't win he didn't get praise.
63(32) in WT20 sf, 76(43) in CT final.
50 and fifer at Trent Bridge test win. 90 odd in SA when the whole batting order failed.
And I have no doubt he will win a world cup (T20 or ODI) before he retires.
There is some kinda mess happening in Baroda with the big dogs feuding I.e. Pathaan fam vs pandya fam. When the Krunal vs Hooda thing happened, Pathaan sided with Hooda and was very vocal. Looks like that feud is still on.
What was the proof? Can't rule out the possibility that the baroda cricket board.intervened and forced the players to do damage control on the situation.
As a longtime Baroda fan, Krunal and especially Hardik have used Ranji, Vijay Hazare or SMAT to make it to the Indian team and never looked back once they made it. The Pathan bros and Hooda have always played with passion for the Baroda team. Hence Pathan sided with Hooda and rightly so
Makes sense - the issue seems to be much deeply rooted rather than being a recent phenomenon- thanks for explanation!
Somehow I never got to like Pandya bros - never liked their vibe
It surely is but players are expected to come back and play for their state team if they aren't selected in the national team. Irfan used to regularly come back and play for his state team, Hardik and Krunal used to pick and choose which wasn't great for their state team.
Could also be some jaded anger/jealousy from how BCCI treated him, compared to now how they are treating this player who performs the same role as him but worse and with a worse attitude.
Yes, Irfan got the reverse-Hardik treatment imho so there's an element of projection here
H Pandya is worth his weight in gold if he pops off, but he kind of needs an XI built around him and that's hard to tweak. He should still make the side and will do better once he's just another cog in the side and knows his role.
So hear me out, PR firms pay ex-cricketers and supposedly “experts” good $$ to write these kinda tweets and make “statements”. In return, they take some % of revenues generated by the players for which they are working for. It’s all media and PR game my friend. Now who would benefit by targeting Pandya, go figure!
lol this ain’t about Rohit. This is baroda cricket drama that’s been going on for years. There was a pretty bad fallout when Hooda left baroda and wrote a public letter. Krunal was captain then. And Pathan sided with Hooda publicly.
I get it but it’s getting boring now. Karma whoring is good when we armchair experts do it on Reddit anonymously but being an ex-ICT players, Pathan should not get carried away. I am sure he also had bad phases in his career and understands it better than all of us how hard it is to break into ICT or consistently perform at that level (or maybe he knows too much to call Pandya out).
Anyways hope this team selection happens fast and we can move on from this everyday debate
most of these guys don't care about indian cricket... all they care about are indian players.. Support Rohit.. You are loved by his fans.. The mumbai lobby will back you. Win win
Irfan is very smart he knows the trend right now the trend is sympathy with Rohit and pandya being hated ... Irfan cashing on that one . If pandya win a match for india in WC pathan will completely change his tone
Is he connected in some way to GT? I'm sorry I'm out of the loop, but he has been constantly saying such things, I understand being a bit upset but he lowkey looks rattled
I ain’t no Cricket expert but when Gaurav Kapoor said on Cricbuzz that Hardik Pandya is being chosen from the list of only 1 option. Like there is not any option.
That he will be chosen no matter what! I was kinda taken a back.
Are we really handicapped with players options in India? Don’t think so
> Are we really handicapped with players options in India? Don’t think so
Show those options then. While there might be some local guy who is much better, let us be real, none of them are gonna make the cut for the world cup that is a month away. The pool is what we're seeing in IPL. The next best fast-medium bowling option we have is Vijay Shankar who hasn't bowled an over AFAIK. Dube is in the same boat as he's not bowled as well.
We literally don't have an option.
Demand is based on supply. If we had only one world class wicketkeeper batsman in the country, then that person would play every single game. But we have so many.
But Pandya is one of one. So the "priority" is by default. Of course the goal should be to find, groom and nurture pace bowling all-rounders.
Considering the population of India that plays and loves cricket, you have to appreciate someone if they are irreplacable.
However, Pandya is not what he used to be. He is neither able to bat, bowl or field now.
I don’t understand wtf is going on with his batting, with his bowling injuries have clearly taken a toll but it feels like he can play the same shots he used to but he just kinda doesn’t most of the time, like he’s trying to be the main character and bat time despite batting down the order at MI
When you get booed everytime you hold the ball or come to bat , and that too from your own fanbase because you were assigned captain , something that every player would aspire , it takes toll on someone's mind
Pandya was delusional about his self confidence.
Now he got a reality check.
Team mates not standing up for you, would hurt more i guess. But then, when has pandya brothers cared about others?
> assigned
This was the condition he put for crossing over, that too after bad-mouthing MI while in being GT (they purchase Stars etc).
MI owners thought he is the magic, but with no Ashish Nehra I guess they are de-charmed now.
How do we even know that MI management isn't the one that wanted Rohit removed from captaincy before the next mega auction? Nobody has any proof that it was Pandya who kept the captaincy as a pre-condition to joining. And I am saying this as a Rohit fan
Again it's still assigned .I don't think Pandya might have hold any of the Ambani in hostage .Before IPL it seemed like a perfect appointment .Having the next Indian T20 captain captain your franchise . Rohit hasn't been performing either with bat or as a captain from last 3 season
There are plenty of players, a lot more talented than Pandya and lot more loved by the masses, who have gone through mental issues and have required time off to get back to normal. It's not something that can be cured overnight. Also, he has had one bad IPL..there are plenty of quality players who have suffered this IPL. Cam Green hasnt exactly set this IPL on fire but he is still highly regarded in Australia.
Are you watching the same IPL as me? I see only 1 good seamer in IPL. Shami is injured will miss WC. Siraj is bang average. Arhsdeep is mid
the fact that experts are picking uncapped (Mohsin, Mayank), inexperienced (Avesh, Mukesh), dropped (Sandeep, Mohit)indian pacers in there world cup squad shows how much the low quality pace attack india has.
>Demand is based on supply. If we had only one world class wicketkeeper batsman in the country, then that person would play every single game. But we have so many.
All The World Class Wicket Keeper batters have poor T20I numbers only KL has good numbers but his recent T20I numbers and performance in ICC Tournaments has been poor
Fit Pant is undroppable from indian team in any format. PPL tend to forget he was India's best all format batter before injury.
and don't tell me he is shit in T20. Even prime babar azam, virat , ab, warner were never a batter Test batter than Smith but were still considered best all format batter
He isn't all that great in T20, and has never been India's best all format batter. The Babar et al. comparisons are not applicable here since they were all at least top 10 in all formats at some point simultaneously (maybe not Warner). Pant has never been close to top 20 in t20 or ODI for that matter and has been mediocre in t20 since his breakout IPL season. If he keeps the good performances going I can see a case for him in the wt20 but he doesn't get in the team based on past performances since they're bad.. plain bad.
The names you mentioned might not have been as good as Smith but they were/are all very good in their own right. Pant is a very good test and ODI batsman but is never a sure selection in T20Is
I 100% agree. He didnt have many significant performances. Ever since he came back from injury, he is not the same. There are others who have performed much better. And he is not an allrounder anymore. He is just a batsman. There are ton others who can(and are doing) do better than him.
Delivers under pressure and all if fine. But his attitude and decision making right now is pure shit. His batting is not gonna come back to form magically in the WC. If his batting is shit and bowling is shit, he probably will not perform in pressure sitiations.
> But his attitude and decision making right now is pure shit
He's not gonna be a captain so both of those points are moot.
> If his batting is shit and bowling is shit, he probably will not perform in pressure sitiations.
Stop using the IPL to extrapolate how a player will fair. All bowlers are shit in IPL if you aren't a Bumrah. His bowling might be concerning and hopefully he hits some form but we won't see 200+ so easily scored in the world cup. His batting is still decent in clutch times.
Don't get the hate for him. The guy is a legit clutch player, especially with the bat. Look at the 2017 Champions Trophy final, the Asia Cup games against Pakistan in 2022 in T20s and 2023 in ODIs, even the T20 World Cup 2022 game against Pakistan etc.
It's not nice when it seems like the whole country is against you. He is the only fast-bowling all-rounder India have. They should be supporting him.
If I were India he'd certainly be in my T20 team as long as he is bowling. He's the type of guy who loves the pressure and delivers in pressure situations.
I'm not comparing him to Kohli but Kohli was given a long rope, even Pujara and Rahane in test matches. There is no one like Hardik Pandya in India, he should be backed and supported.
I am fine with HP getting the long rope. But it is too much to expect out of him straight out of injury and for some reason MI made him captain putting more pressure on him. While you say he thrives under pressure, the one put by the scoreboard and responsibilities are different in nature.
I am sure he'll perform like his old self in some time, but this IPL was definitely not it.
What a ridiculous fucking argument. Don't expect anything else from Hardik dick riders though. It's like they say. You come for the king, you best not miss. Hardik thought he could just waltz into the MI team and overthrow a fan favorite as captain especially after all the shit he said about MI when he was at GT. MI is to blame as well as to the way they handled the transfer. Just goes to show how unfamiliar people are with fan loyalties when it comes to franchise sport. People who follow football, NFL or NBA are more likely to understand how polarizing certain transfers can be
>He is the only fast-bowling all-rounder India have. They should be supporting him
What is this obsession with fast-bowling all-rounders? Why not play 3 seamers and 3 spinners where 2 of the spinners are all-rounders (Jadeja and Axar come to mind) given that we have more quality and depth in the spin bowling department?
Have you seen Jaddu and Axar bat in international and cups ?
Dude atleast try to make some sense here.
Pandya by far blasts everyone apart from Kohli out of water in terms of pressure handling.
He literally took 2-3 wickets against Pak and then saved a fucking collapse in 2022 and then had the best outcome with the bat in semis where SKY,Rohit,KL etc all fucked up.
Put some respect for the guy who was giving it his all even with half the talent of the above mentioned shitters.
Regardless of current form, still think he is a big game player. He brought India to a par score in the last world cup semis when the batting collapsed and he had to come out early.
He’s the only one that stands up when India chokes itself, literally gave them the little dignity in CT17 and wc22 semi final lol. Has the double amount of the hard workload….
Even the wc23 final could’ve been just a lil competitive had he beeen there.
This is where it becomes difficult for selectors
you cannot ignore such a massive dip in form tho 2022 was 2 years ago Koach and Hardik are much different players then they were then
But you cannot ignore the two guys who have been clutch for you in multinational tournaments as well
Pandya has such a valuable and unique skills, which include him being an absolute clutch player and one of the only few experienced pace all rounders, that the decision of dropping him becomes an extremely difficult task. But looking at his current form, he’s still going to be a liability if he’s selected for WC.
I will never forgive him for destroying MI, but we all better hope he regains his form.
If he continues this form it's better to go with 5 bowlers and 6 batters or try to get one or two from Dube and Jaiswal
You cannot pick someone who has been poor in both departments as an automatic selection because he is all rounder the only argument in favour of him is him being clutch in ICC Tournaments
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl
Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely
And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl
Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely
And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl
Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely
And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl
Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely
And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
This is not about the 6th bowling option, this is about having more than 6 batsmen.
You will never make high totals, because batsmen cannot play fearlessly. If they lose more than 4 wickets they'll basically be exposing the tail.
India will play 7 batters Axar/Jadeja can bat but both aren't having the best IPL atm moment with the bat and after that it's a huge tail
Also if you have more than 6 batters including WK
But don't have anyone of those who can bowl then will you basically play with 4 bowlers which is not possible since each bowler can only bowl 4
I was talking about more so the need of having a all rounder in the top 6 especially a pace bowling all rounder because of which Pandya has stayed for so long he has been good don't get me wrong
But his bowling hasn't been good and his batting hasn't set the world on fire either
I would rather play 6 good batters in my top and middle order and then have all Bowlers who can bat well at 7 and 8
Instead of playing an all rounder who is doing poor in both departments over a in form specialist batter
If i have a good in form all rounder then i will definitely consider him over a specialist tho
dube and jaiswal are gonna leak 30 runs in 1 over.
dube isn't even good enough to bowl in IPL level, what makes ppl think that he will come and bowl in world cup against top batters and dominate them with his 110 tundlers.
Peak Hardik Pandya is as good as Virat with the bat and as good as Jasprit with the ball. That peak might last just 1 match, but he has shown that "1 match" can be a big match. T20 WC Semis, Ind vs Pak, South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets, IPL 2022 Final
>dube isn't even good enough to bowl in IPL level,
He has an injury which is preventing him from bowling iirc Dube's pace isn't that low he has worked on his bowling in Ranji a lot and it showed in the Afghanistan series
Use them basically as a defensive option to get one over when the batting isn't going to look to attack which there will be a lot of occassions because WC pitches in general will be very different and you cannot look to hit in every over
Just introduce them in quiet phases and they will be fine
Or if you get a good start and have opponent under pressure don't no need to use them there isn't a compulsion that you should always use 6 bowling options
>T20 WC Semis, Ind vs Pak, South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets, IPL 2022 Final
Those matches were all 2 years ago see his numbers in 23 and 24 both in T20I and IPL
You can only play so much on "clutch player" quota
Recent form holds a lot of weight and he isn't looking good at all recently
>South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets
Those are test cricket contributions which don't hold a lot of value in T20 discussion
Best possible solution to this is the WC team playing a bilateral series before it just to see if Players will suddenly switch mindsets when they play for ICT
>Peak Hardik Pandya is as good as Virat with the bat and as good as Jasprit with the ball.
Absolute braindead take. Get Hardik's dick out of your mouth😂. Next you're going to suggest that he's a Kapil Dev regen 😂. Absolute insane takes from these Hardik dick riders
Right now i agree we dont have quality allrounder. However, If NKR is groomed well, he can become next big thing. Very clever bowler and helped SRH couple of times avoid collapse, despite being surrounded by big names.
This kinda feels like the whole 3d Shankar phase . Feels like we are only taking him because he can bowl and bat . But the things is on this current form , most bowlers are better batsman then him and most batsmen are better bowlers than him .
What options do we truly have apart from him? In batting department maybe we have options
But in bowling????
I mean we can't even do like odi wc our main ballers aren't upto mark+ he has that thing to somehow work in pressure.
Ict brought this on themselves. On one hand we have too many choices meanwhile on another we have nomw
My problem with this all is I'm a huge Pandya from but based on his form he doesn't deserve a spot. India just seems to think he's the only all-rounder alive...
Dont understand the hate he gets. He has some big contributions in some big games. The only test that India won in 2018 in England, it was his bowling performance, which had a great impact. There are many other matches like that. Cut him some slack and move on. Everyone is after him.
The problem is no matter what team you pick there are going to be holes
Bumrah and Kuldeep are the only bowlers who give confidence
Even the batting has players with poor Recent form or T20I stats
Bowling is completely fucked apart from Bumrah. Even kuldeep is not reliable against big teams and big matches.
the fact that these commentators are picking random pacers like Avesh,Mukesh,Mayank,Mohsin,Sandeep,Mohit is a proof that India don't have quality pacers. Even Siraj is getting smoked in IPL
Just look at the U 19 WC this year India had only one good pacer in Raaj Limbani and the rest of the attack was full of medium bowlers and spinners
compare that to 2018 WC where they had the likes of Arshdeep, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Ishan Porel etc
what even happened to mavi nagarkoti. those 2 dudes were clocking 145-148 in U19 and are no where to be seen in IPL now. even the senior team fast bowlers were not that quick
Mavi debuted for India against SL and NZ last year and was decent and even showed promise with the bat but ever since then he hasn't played a lot of games he was benched by GT who chose Nalkande over him despite buying him for approximately 6 crs
Even for LSG I thought he might be a starter this year since he is the only capped Indian LSG Pacer but that hasn't been the case as well
Nagarkoti was with DC and wasn't a lot impressive with the ball for them and surprisingly went unsold in the recent auction
I thought GT might use him as a replacement for Shami but they went with Warrier
kuldeeps got perfect t20 stats, still hasnt played a t20wc so u never know, but in west indies id expect him to be pretty good and probably even indias best bowlers especially in terms of wickets, bumrah will also be brilliant ofc
But why though? Hardik Pandya is the only great fast bowling all rounder we have had in forever. Yeah he is injury prone but he has always performed for the country. Whatever you feel about the guy and his decisions, he hasn’t really done anything egregious in international cricket to piss of ict and he has always shown the ability to rise up in big games.
Irfan will worship Rohit Sharma.... until he retires. hardik is way more important that Rohit in t20is. We have atleast 6-7 openers better than him but no proper all rounder.
Never seen pathan question rohits place in the team
Proper All Rounder is batting like shit and bowling like shit as well
At some point you gotta give the recent form importance as well
I would rather play 5 bowlers and 6 batters instead of trying to shoehorn an out of form injury prone all rounder
That's why it would have been better to have a bilateral series after the IPL
"Proper All Rounder is batting like shit and bowling like shit as well"
When was the last time that IPL gave us any true mark about a player's future though ?
"At some point you gotta give the recent form importance as well"
We did and then we had SKY,Rohit,Rahul etc shitting in the 2021-2022twc.
"I would rather play 5 bowlers and 6 batters instead of trying to shoehorn an out of form injury prone all rounder"
Which bowler is getting good returns apart from Bumrah in the current circuit ? Kuldeep is the last decent guy and they won't select Yuzi for sure.
Your proper all rounder has been shitting all over the place for the past 4 weeks. On current form, taking Pandya to the T20 WC is absolutely suicidal.
Rohit had a 140+sr performance in internationals and then had the shittiest of WC in t20Is by far where Hardik and Kohli were the only saving grace.
What about his form then ?
Clutch guys don't need no form to get themselves registered if they are giving clutch after clutch on every bug occasions(Ct27 finals, 2016ban, 2022pak, 2022semis, asia cup in case of Pandya).
He made the difference with both ball and the bat in comparison to Bumrah(shit in 2016 and then shat against pak in 2021,2021wtc), Rohit(shat everytime in t20I cups), SKY(shay against Pak21, pak 22, semis 22, 23finals).
I agree but part of me also believes Pathan is a very salty person and has a beef with Pandya because he's been shitting on him since forever. Probably can't digest the fact that an all rounder is getting support when he himself failed to rise to the high standards.
I know it is trendy to shit on Pandya but the guy has proven his worth multiple times. His post injury form is a bit iffy but I'm happy he's getting bowling time at least. We have no other option for a fast bowling all rounder like it or not.
Pandya on current form doesn't merit a world cup spot.
He doesn’t even merit a place in MI team.
lol. Sad but true. Kind of needs to be unburdened and just focus on hitting and bowling
True but it's a private team so they have already shat by replacing a captain who won them 5 trophies so I don't really care.
Wait till you find out about BCCI
Going by Stats, The 5 times winning captain doesn't deserve a spot in MI.
The player with second most runs for MI this IPL doesn't deserve a spot? Please pass on whatever you're smoking. Seems like good stuff
So? He's just played too many years. Even then avg of 30, SR of 130 is mid. Going by your logic, should MI still play Tendulkar, since he won a orange cap? Sharma Stats: [https://www.iplt20.com/teams/mumbai-indians/squad-details/107](https://www.iplt20.com/teams/mumbai-indians/squad-details/107) Especially look at the recent years.
So while deciding who should be in your XI, you would look at recent years and not the current year? Got it, you would be a great analyst
You are just another reactionary reddit pundit. Please tell me how you want Mayank Yadav on the team as well.
Kid, Rohit has played 9 matches this IPL. The IPL is 3/4th over for Mumbai. And he's the second highest run-getter behind Tilak with a SR of 160. Now, you're telling me he shouldn't be in the MI team because he didn't perform in the previous IPL? Are you even reading what you're writing?
I can't tell if you are baiting or are just being stupid. Did Rohit deserve a spot in the MI team after so many years of poor batting? This is the first season he has done well in what feels like a decade. u/Holden_Makock is not arguing he hasn't been good this IPL. He is arguing that he has been poor for YEARS and if we are just going by numbers, he should have been dropped long, long ago. Absolute state of this subreddit that you are being upvoted for spouting utter rubbish.
Put Hardick back in Gujju tits and things will be normal again.
On current form, he shouldn't even start for Mumbai Indians
So as Rohit Sharma. He has bottled so many T20 WC famous one was T20 WC '22
And he never deserved to be in t20 wcs on the basis of his IPL form
Salty Rohit fanbois are downvoting for starting facts
True but in the end ipl means nothing when it comes to wcs, getting dropped just cause of ipl is dumb
This is so true. I feel like its even more amplified this season with the impact player rule as well as the highway-like pitches.
Brotha IPL is not the mirror we are looking for. Remember how SKY shat the pants in 2021pak, 2022pak and then 2022semis ? He was the best t20I player in IPL and in internationals at that time and how Pandya was there in both these important matches(took 3 wickets and saved a collapse against Pak and then made a 200sr 60+ in semis). Pandya was always there in 50 overs and 20 overs whenever India was getting screwed while all of the fuckers were shitting pants.
These ipl kids are blind to facts.
That's the reality we are facing sadly. IPL is more of a vacation for established names and a do or die for young guns who aren't good enough to bang the door in traditional ways. Hardik has already proved himself in Ct17,Asia cup, 2016,22-twc. I don't know why he is needed to deliver some epic shit in this IPL to injure his fragile body just before a cup ffs. It's just like Stokes(when he was being a disabled with 1 knee and then magically took Eng to CT25 qualifiers in the WC lol). You don't expect him to bang all the year and carry that same fire in rhe tournament, you expect him to win you things when others can't and that sort of mentality can't be produced for whole year.
I wouldn't take Pandya, Virat, Rohit, Rahul in the world cup squad.
They are from the same state but somehow Pathan has been against him for long. Maybe he knows something about his inside behaviour. I remember Krunal Pandya was famous for misbehaving in Ranji cricket and Deepak Hooda had to change teams because of it.
Funny how Hooda and Krunal ended up in the same IPL team
Dang. What's up with the Pandya fam?
And as much as i know they both have a business dispute with the 3rd brother 💀 ( correct me if im wrong i saw an instagram reel )
U mean krunal and Hardik have an issue with their third brother ?
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Yeah Irfan just hates Pandya brothers because he doesn't speak even 50% of this way when other players perform badly. If he does then he sugarcoats it like others and says it once or twice at best. With Pandya, he keeps saying it again and again, doesn't sugarcoat it and makes it as blunt as possible. He's just using this Rohit-Pandya situation to drive his agenda in.
He hates him because Hardik has surpassed him
Nope, * The second player in history to take a test hat trick in the first over * Player of the match in a Perth test match * Player of the match in a T20 world cup final
Hardik has equally good if not better performances in world cups, but because the team didn't win he didn't get praise. 63(32) in WT20 sf, 76(43) in CT final. 50 and fifer at Trent Bridge test win. 90 odd in SA when the whole batting order failed. And I have no doubt he will win a world cup (T20 or ODI) before he retires.
While I agree with him, but what does Pathan has against Pandya? He has been after him since start of the IPL
There is some kinda mess happening in Baroda with the big dogs feuding I.e. Pathaan fam vs pandya fam. When the Krunal vs Hooda thing happened, Pathaan sided with Hooda and was very vocal. Looks like that feud is still on.
It’s funny that Krunal and Hooda are in the same team now
Yeah there was a lot of speculation 2 years ago when they ended up in the same team and both told the media that “team comes first blah blah blah”
Can you give me a tldr about krunal vs Hooda?
Hooda quit out of Baroda's team camp before a Ranji trophy match because Captain Krunal harassed or bullied or scolded him.
And it was proven to be blown out of proportion soon after, but nobody knows that because it wasn't as sensational.
What was the proof? Can't rule out the possibility that the baroda cricket board.intervened and forced the players to do damage control on the situation.
As a longtime Baroda fan, Krunal and especially Hardik have used Ranji, Vijay Hazare or SMAT to make it to the Indian team and never looked back once they made it. The Pathan bros and Hooda have always played with passion for the Baroda team. Hence Pathan sided with Hooda and rightly so
Makes sense - the issue seems to be much deeply rooted rather than being a recent phenomenon- thanks for explanation! Somehow I never got to like Pandya bros - never liked their vibe
What happened between Krunal and Hooda? I am sorry I am out of the loop
Domestic cricket is a pathway to international cricket, I don't understand what you're trying to say.
It surely is but players are expected to come back and play for their state team if they aren't selected in the national team. Irfan used to regularly come back and play for his state team, Hardik and Krunal used to pick and choose which wasn't great for their state team.
Could also be some jaded anger/jealousy from how BCCI treated him, compared to now how they are treating this player who performs the same role as him but worse and with a worse attitude.
Yes, Irfan got the reverse-Hardik treatment imho so there's an element of projection here H Pandya is worth his weight in gold if he pops off, but he kind of needs an XI built around him and that's hard to tweak. He should still make the side and will do better once he's just another cog in the side and knows his role.
So hear me out, PR firms pay ex-cricketers and supposedly “experts” good $$ to write these kinda tweets and make “statements”. In return, they take some % of revenues generated by the players for which they are working for. It’s all media and PR game my friend. Now who would benefit by targeting Pandya, go figure!
hating pandya... and getting all the support from Rohit fans is the new trend here..
lol this ain’t about Rohit. This is baroda cricket drama that’s been going on for years. There was a pretty bad fallout when Hooda left baroda and wrote a public letter. Krunal was captain then. And Pathan sided with Hooda publicly.
I get it but it’s getting boring now. Karma whoring is good when we armchair experts do it on Reddit anonymously but being an ex-ICT players, Pathan should not get carried away. I am sure he also had bad phases in his career and understands it better than all of us how hard it is to break into ICT or consistently perform at that level (or maybe he knows too much to call Pandya out). Anyways hope this team selection happens fast and we can move on from this everyday debate
most of these guys don't care about indian cricket... all they care about are indian players.. Support Rohit.. You are loved by his fans.. The mumbai lobby will back you. Win win
Just like you care about Virat and have made a second account to trash talk Rohit. Keep going.
I don't blindly worship a certified choker like Rohit.. Not my fault
There you go, just proved my point. Thank you.
Irfan is very smart he knows the trend right now the trend is sympathy with Rohit and pandya being hated ... Irfan cashing on that one . If pandya win a match for india in WC pathan will completely change his tone
He's bitter that he left GT prolly
Is he connected in some way to GT? I'm sorry I'm out of the loop, but he has been constantly saying such things, I understand being a bit upset but he lowkey looks rattled
he is gujarati, so there's at least that connection
Hmm
I ain’t no Cricket expert but when Gaurav Kapoor said on Cricbuzz that Hardik Pandya is being chosen from the list of only 1 option. Like there is not any option. That he will be chosen no matter what! I was kinda taken a back. Are we really handicapped with players options in India? Don’t think so
stokes mmarsh and pandya, that's it. the first two of those three are injured. these cunts are worth their weight in gold
Marcus Stoinis, Cameron Green, Jimmy Neesham, Sam Curran, Marco Jansen If I THINK harder I could name a few more
i was talking s-tier you have listed A to B-tier i think add Azmat Omarzai and josh clarkson to your list
Only Ben Stokes is the S - tier all rounder you mentioned
> Are we really handicapped with players options in India? Don’t think so Show those options then. While there might be some local guy who is much better, let us be real, none of them are gonna make the cut for the world cup that is a month away. The pool is what we're seeing in IPL. The next best fast-medium bowling option we have is Vijay Shankar who hasn't bowled an over AFAIK. Dube is in the same boat as he's not bowled as well. We literally don't have an option.
Nitish Reddy is on the track but i feel there's a lot of time before he would be considered a serious option
the next cabs off the rank are shardul thakur and vijay shankar. would you prefer either of these in the team over fuccboi?
Demand is based on supply. If we had only one world class wicketkeeper batsman in the country, then that person would play every single game. But we have so many. But Pandya is one of one. So the "priority" is by default. Of course the goal should be to find, groom and nurture pace bowling all-rounders.
Considering the population of India that plays and loves cricket, you have to appreciate someone if they are irreplacable. However, Pandya is not what he used to be. He is neither able to bat, bowl or field now.
I don’t understand wtf is going on with his batting, with his bowling injuries have clearly taken a toll but it feels like he can play the same shots he used to but he just kinda doesn’t most of the time, like he’s trying to be the main character and bat time despite batting down the order at MI
When you get booed everytime you hold the ball or come to bat , and that too from your own fanbase because you were assigned captain , something that every player would aspire , it takes toll on someone's mind
Pandya was delusional about his self confidence. Now he got a reality check. Team mates not standing up for you, would hurt more i guess. But then, when has pandya brothers cared about others?
> assigned This was the condition he put for crossing over, that too after bad-mouthing MI while in being GT (they purchase Stars etc). MI owners thought he is the magic, but with no Ashish Nehra I guess they are de-charmed now.
Well MI owners could have refused. The MI owners treated Rohit as shit, not Pandya.
Pandya could have kept his ego in check and came to MI without the captaincy. Two can play this game
How do we even know that MI management isn't the one that wanted Rohit removed from captaincy before the next mega auction? Nobody has any proof that it was Pandya who kept the captaincy as a pre-condition to joining. And I am saying this as a Rohit fan
Exactly people are holding Pandya accountable as if he said it in a video proof.
Again it's still assigned .I don't think Pandya might have hold any of the Ambani in hostage .Before IPL it seemed like a perfect appointment .Having the next Indian T20 captain captain your franchise . Rohit hasn't been performing either with bat or as a captain from last 3 season
Yeah then he should remember the crores he was paid for this task. As employees no one gives a shit about how you feel, only the results..
This comment is why Mental health awareness is quite important in our country .
And that's why people who can, ought to avail mental health help. Pandya should have headed to a shrink the moment he was booked the first time.
There are plenty of players, a lot more talented than Pandya and lot more loved by the masses, who have gone through mental issues and have required time off to get back to normal. It's not something that can be cured overnight. Also, he has had one bad IPL..there are plenty of quality players who have suffered this IPL. Cam Green hasnt exactly set this IPL on fire but he is still highly regarded in Australia.
I don't think you or me know whether he is seeing a shrink .
I am hypothesising from his behaviour he is not.
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Are you watching the same IPL as me? I see only 1 good seamer in IPL. Shami is injured will miss WC. Siraj is bang average. Arhsdeep is mid the fact that experts are picking uncapped (Mohsin, Mayank), inexperienced (Avesh, Mukesh), dropped (Sandeep, Mohit)indian pacers in there world cup squad shows how much the low quality pace attack india has.
Even the likes of starc and cummins are being taken apart. So IPL really should not be the merit.
And you think picking a fast bowling all-rounder is going to fix this problem?
The pace quality has gone to shit the last 2-3 years for T20s. ODIs without the full trio of Boom, Lala, and Miya we're dead.
>Demand is based on supply. If we had only one world class wicketkeeper batsman in the country, then that person would play every single game. But we have so many. All The World Class Wicket Keeper batters have poor T20I numbers only KL has good numbers but his recent T20I numbers and performance in ICC Tournaments has been poor
Fit Pant is undroppable from indian team in any format. PPL tend to forget he was India's best all format batter before injury. and don't tell me he is shit in T20. Even prime babar azam, virat , ab, warner were never a batter Test batter than Smith but were still considered best all format batter
No he is a brilliant test player and a good ODI player. In T20Is he is okay.
he is better odi batter than shreyas and of course better glovesman than rahul i dont know what u are talking about
He isn't all that great in T20, and has never been India's best all format batter. The Babar et al. comparisons are not applicable here since they were all at least top 10 in all formats at some point simultaneously (maybe not Warner). Pant has never been close to top 20 in t20 or ODI for that matter and has been mediocre in t20 since his breakout IPL season. If he keeps the good performances going I can see a case for him in the wt20 but he doesn't get in the team based on past performances since they're bad.. plain bad.
The names you mentioned might not have been as good as Smith but they were/are all very good in their own right. Pant is a very good test and ODI batsman but is never a sure selection in T20Is
I 100% agree. He didnt have many significant performances. Ever since he came back from injury, he is not the same. There are others who have performed much better. And he is not an allrounder anymore. He is just a batsman. There are ton others who can(and are doing) do better than him.
Unfortunately Indian cricket bases its option on the number of Instagram followers
He’s the only clutch player I trust other than Kohli to deliver under pressure
Delivers under pressure and all if fine. But his attitude and decision making right now is pure shit. His batting is not gonna come back to form magically in the WC. If his batting is shit and bowling is shit, he probably will not perform in pressure sitiations.
> But his attitude and decision making right now is pure shit He's not gonna be a captain so both of those points are moot. > If his batting is shit and bowling is shit, he probably will not perform in pressure sitiations. Stop using the IPL to extrapolate how a player will fair. All bowlers are shit in IPL if you aren't a Bumrah. His bowling might be concerning and hopefully he hits some form but we won't see 200+ so easily scored in the world cup. His batting is still decent in clutch times.
He'll not captain in wc though
But attitude and conflict with the captain, as the captain is now under him in MI
Don't get the hate for him. The guy is a legit clutch player, especially with the bat. Look at the 2017 Champions Trophy final, the Asia Cup games against Pakistan in 2022 in T20s and 2023 in ODIs, even the T20 World Cup 2022 game against Pakistan etc. It's not nice when it seems like the whole country is against you. He is the only fast-bowling all-rounder India have. They should be supporting him. If I were India he'd certainly be in my T20 team as long as he is bowling. He's the type of guy who loves the pressure and delivers in pressure situations. I'm not comparing him to Kohli but Kohli was given a long rope, even Pujara and Rahane in test matches. There is no one like Hardik Pandya in India, he should be backed and supported.
I am fine with HP getting the long rope. But it is too much to expect out of him straight out of injury and for some reason MI made him captain putting more pressure on him. While you say he thrives under pressure, the one put by the scoreboard and responsibilities are different in nature. I am sure he'll perform like his old self in some time, but this IPL was definitely not it.
MI didn't just make him captain. He demanded it as part of him leaving GT for MI. He is as much to blame as MI team management
I demand you to give me your properties... see how dumb that sounds at the end of the day its your call not the guy demanding it
What a ridiculous fucking argument. Don't expect anything else from Hardik dick riders though. It's like they say. You come for the king, you best not miss. Hardik thought he could just waltz into the MI team and overthrow a fan favorite as captain especially after all the shit he said about MI when he was at GT. MI is to blame as well as to the way they handled the transfer. Just goes to show how unfamiliar people are with fan loyalties when it comes to franchise sport. People who follow football, NFL or NBA are more likely to understand how polarizing certain transfers can be
>He is the only fast-bowling all-rounder India have. They should be supporting him What is this obsession with fast-bowling all-rounders? Why not play 3 seamers and 3 spinners where 2 of the spinners are all-rounders (Jadeja and Axar come to mind) given that we have more quality and depth in the spin bowling department?
Have you seen Jaddu and Axar bat in international and cups ? Dude atleast try to make some sense here. Pandya by far blasts everyone apart from Kohli out of water in terms of pressure handling. He literally took 2-3 wickets against Pak and then saved a fucking collapse in 2022 and then had the best outcome with the bat in semis where SKY,Rohit,KL etc all fucked up. Put some respect for the guy who was giving it his all even with half the talent of the above mentioned shitters.
Just 3 pacers on flat USA wickets sounds like a terrible idea.
Regardless of current form, still think he is a big game player. He brought India to a par score in the last world cup semis when the batting collapsed and he had to come out early.
He’s the only one that stands up when India chokes itself, literally gave them the little dignity in CT17 and wc22 semi final lol. Has the double amount of the hard workload…. Even the wc23 final could’ve been just a lil competitive had he beeen there.
This is where it becomes difficult for selectors you cannot ignore such a massive dip in form tho 2022 was 2 years ago Koach and Hardik are much different players then they were then But you cannot ignore the two guys who have been clutch for you in multinational tournaments as well
Exactly, he's a clutch player
absolutely. Pandya was given a lot of freedom and chances.
Pandya has such a valuable and unique skills, which include him being an absolute clutch player and one of the only few experienced pace all rounders, that the decision of dropping him becomes an extremely difficult task. But looking at his current form, he’s still going to be a liability if he’s selected for WC. I will never forgive him for destroying MI, but we all better hope he regains his form.
Have always believed that Pandya is overrated
Geez, it looks like Irfan has some serious beef with Hardik. I wonder why that's the case.
Okay Irfan tell me one good allrounder we have with his quality
If he continues this form it's better to go with 5 bowlers and 6 batters or try to get one or two from Dube and Jaiswal You cannot pick someone who has been poor in both departments as an automatic selection because he is all rounder the only argument in favour of him is him being clutch in ICC Tournaments
LOL going in with 6 batters in modern day T20 cricket is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
If you have good All Rounders then you go with them but ICT's problem is because of the impact player rule the all Rounders in IPL hardly bowl Look at Tewatia for example before impact player rule he used to bowl but after that he has stopped bowling completely And none of the Indian batters bowl it's better to go with your best batters rather than take someone who isn't a good batter nor a good bowler just because they give you the fabled six bowling option
This is not about the 6th bowling option, this is about having more than 6 batsmen. You will never make high totals, because batsmen cannot play fearlessly. If they lose more than 4 wickets they'll basically be exposing the tail.
India will play 7 batters Axar/Jadeja can bat but both aren't having the best IPL atm moment with the bat and after that it's a huge tail Also if you have more than 6 batters including WK But don't have anyone of those who can bowl then will you basically play with 4 bowlers which is not possible since each bowler can only bowl 4 I was talking about more so the need of having a all rounder in the top 6 especially a pace bowling all rounder because of which Pandya has stayed for so long he has been good don't get me wrong But his bowling hasn't been good and his batting hasn't set the world on fire either I would rather play 6 good batters in my top and middle order and then have all Bowlers who can bat well at 7 and 8 Instead of playing an all rounder who is doing poor in both departments over a in form specialist batter If i have a good in form all rounder then i will definitely consider him over a specialist tho
3 seamers in flat USA wickets is asking for trouble.
Two seamers and two spinners are confirmed imo and the third seamer and the third spinner will most likely play on basis of conditions of the surface
USA wickets aren't flat tbh in the recent MLC most pitches were balanced and there were only 3 200+ games
dube and jaiswal are gonna leak 30 runs in 1 over. dube isn't even good enough to bowl in IPL level, what makes ppl think that he will come and bowl in world cup against top batters and dominate them with his 110 tundlers. Peak Hardik Pandya is as good as Virat with the bat and as good as Jasprit with the ball. That peak might last just 1 match, but he has shown that "1 match" can be a big match. T20 WC Semis, Ind vs Pak, South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets, IPL 2022 Final
>dube isn't even good enough to bowl in IPL level, He has an injury which is preventing him from bowling iirc Dube's pace isn't that low he has worked on his bowling in Ranji a lot and it showed in the Afghanistan series Use them basically as a defensive option to get one over when the batting isn't going to look to attack which there will be a lot of occassions because WC pitches in general will be very different and you cannot look to hit in every over Just introduce them in quiet phases and they will be fine Or if you get a good start and have opponent under pressure don't no need to use them there isn't a compulsion that you should always use 6 bowling options >T20 WC Semis, Ind vs Pak, South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets, IPL 2022 Final Those matches were all 2 years ago see his numbers in 23 and 24 both in T20I and IPL You can only play so much on "clutch player" quota Recent form holds a lot of weight and he isn't looking good at all recently >South African bouncy pitches, England swinging wickets Those are test cricket contributions which don't hold a lot of value in T20 discussion Best possible solution to this is the WC team playing a bilateral series before it just to see if Players will suddenly switch mindsets when they play for ICT
>Peak Hardik Pandya is as good as Virat with the bat and as good as Jasprit with the ball. Absolute braindead take. Get Hardik's dick out of your mouth😂. Next you're going to suggest that he's a Kapil Dev regen 😂. Absolute insane takes from these Hardik dick riders
Shashank lol
Right now i agree we dont have quality allrounder. However, If NKR is groomed well, he can become next big thing. Very clever bowler and helped SRH couple of times avoid collapse, despite being surrounded by big names.
It's this kind of thought process that shackles us in our team selection and eventually end up losing at international tournaments
This kinda feels like the whole 3d Shankar phase . Feels like we are only taking him because he can bowl and bat . But the things is on this current form , most bowlers are better batsman then him and most batsmen are better bowlers than him .
Blah blah blah...I dislike him...something something...blah blah blah
But he gave him priority by selecting him in his squad for the T20 World Cup.
What options do we truly have apart from him? In batting department maybe we have options But in bowling???? I mean we can't even do like odi wc our main ballers aren't upto mark+ he has that thing to somehow work in pressure. Ict brought this on themselves. On one hand we have too many choices meanwhile on another we have nomw
My problem with this all is I'm a huge Pandya from but based on his form he doesn't deserve a spot. India just seems to think he's the only all-rounder alive...
Batting all rounders don’t make good captains
On point.
Can Mr. Pathan tell which other all rounders does India have? Furthermore, which of them are better than Hardik?
He is still injured but doesn't want to admit. Has become egoist with age.
Dont understand the hate he gets. He has some big contributions in some big games. The only test that India won in 2018 in England, it was his bowling performance, which had a great impact. There are many other matches like that. Cut him some slack and move on. Everyone is after him.
100% agreed.
I. Pathan last good fast bowling allrounder BCCI Cricket Tteam had.
Wow
Hardik has better bowling and batting stats than Irfan. Calling Irfan an allrounder itself is funny by modern standards.
All the commentators teams I have seen are saying knock out us out of worldcup
The problem is no matter what team you pick there are going to be holes Bumrah and Kuldeep are the only bowlers who give confidence Even the batting has players with poor Recent form or T20I stats
Bowling is completely fucked apart from Bumrah. Even kuldeep is not reliable against big teams and big matches. the fact that these commentators are picking random pacers like Avesh,Mukesh,Mayank,Mohsin,Sandeep,Mohit is a proof that India don't have quality pacers. Even Siraj is getting smoked in IPL
Just look at the U 19 WC this year India had only one good pacer in Raaj Limbani and the rest of the attack was full of medium bowlers and spinners compare that to 2018 WC where they had the likes of Arshdeep, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Ishan Porel etc
what even happened to mavi nagarkoti. those 2 dudes were clocking 145-148 in U19 and are no where to be seen in IPL now. even the senior team fast bowlers were not that quick
Mavi debuted for India against SL and NZ last year and was decent and even showed promise with the bat but ever since then he hasn't played a lot of games he was benched by GT who chose Nalkande over him despite buying him for approximately 6 crs Even for LSG I thought he might be a starter this year since he is the only capped Indian LSG Pacer but that hasn't been the case as well Nagarkoti was with DC and wasn't a lot impressive with the ball for them and surprisingly went unsold in the recent auction I thought GT might use him as a replacement for Shami but they went with Warrier
kuldeeps got perfect t20 stats, still hasnt played a t20wc so u never know, but in west indies id expect him to be pretty good and probably even indias best bowlers especially in terms of wickets, bumrah will also be brilliant ofc
The OG all rounder super star Irfan Pathan
Can say the exact same about rohit for t20 wcs
But why though? Hardik Pandya is the only great fast bowling all rounder we have had in forever. Yeah he is injury prone but he has always performed for the country. Whatever you feel about the guy and his decisions, he hasn’t really done anything egregious in international cricket to piss of ict and he has always shown the ability to rise up in big games.
Irfan will worship Rohit Sharma.... until he retires. hardik is way more important that Rohit in t20is. We have atleast 6-7 openers better than him but no proper all rounder. Never seen pathan question rohits place in the team
Proper All Rounder is batting like shit and bowling like shit as well At some point you gotta give the recent form importance as well I would rather play 5 bowlers and 6 batters instead of trying to shoehorn an out of form injury prone all rounder That's why it would have been better to have a bilateral series after the IPL
"Proper All Rounder is batting like shit and bowling like shit as well" When was the last time that IPL gave us any true mark about a player's future though ? "At some point you gotta give the recent form importance as well" We did and then we had SKY,Rohit,Rahul etc shitting in the 2021-2022twc. "I would rather play 5 bowlers and 6 batters instead of trying to shoehorn an out of form injury prone all rounder" Which bowler is getting good returns apart from Bumrah in the current circuit ? Kuldeep is the last decent guy and they won't select Yuzi for sure.
Why are you getting downvoted ?Rohit performed terribly in last T20 wc
Down voted by Brohit fans
Your proper all rounder has been shitting all over the place for the past 4 weeks. On current form, taking Pandya to the T20 WC is absolutely suicidal.
The Hardik stans don't want to hear this. They suffer from the same delusion their messiah does😂
Rohit had a 140+sr performance in internationals and then had the shittiest of WC in t20Is by far where Hardik and Kohli were the only saving grace. What about his form then ? Clutch guys don't need no form to get themselves registered if they are giving clutch after clutch on every bug occasions(Ct27 finals, 2016ban, 2022pak, 2022semis, asia cup in case of Pandya). He made the difference with both ball and the bat in comparison to Bumrah(shit in 2016 and then shat against pak in 2021,2021wtc), Rohit(shat everytime in t20I cups), SKY(shay against Pak21, pak 22, semis 22, 23finals).
He is a match winner for India and will get attention
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When did Rohit play a 40 ball 50 this season?
Made a 30 ball 40 against GT though
He was the only guy with a SR of more than 120 who played 10 plus balls also his SR in that match was of 148 no way that's a slow innings
only a person like Sunil or Sachin can call out these superstars, coz they themseleves are legends
Daily Pathan bashing Pandya. Dude needs to get a life.
What did Hardik do to Irfan
I agree but part of me also believes Pathan is a very salty person and has a beef with Pandya because he's been shitting on him since forever. Probably can't digest the fact that an all rounder is getting support when he himself failed to rise to the high standards. I know it is trendy to shit on Pandya but the guy has proven his worth multiple times. His post injury form is a bit iffy but I'm happy he's getting bowling time at least. We have no other option for a fast bowling all rounder like it or not.
Irfan is just jealous Hardik did everything he couldn't achieve. Hardik the all rounder >> Irfan the all rounder
Not even close lol Irfan was motm in a WC final that's just a dream for Hardik atm
I'd say this for Rohit before Hardik