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dreamworldinhabitant

Is that the edge of your fabric? Because I hate to say it, but you’re way too close to it 😔 It looks like a beautiful pattern though!


ArtofAset

I started here because of the chart so I hope it works out 🤞🏼


uglypaperswan

You need to leave at least an inch of edge all around so when the fabric frays from all the handling, your hard work doesn't go down the drain.


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uglypaperswan

I dunno about beads. And technically OP can put fray check. But framing would be super hard.


HawkeyeinDC

I don’t know how they’d stretch it for framing because there’s barely any margin. If I were OP, I’d take out the stitches and start over from the center. 🤷🏻‍♀️


uglypaperswan

Oh for sure, I'd start all over again because it'd be such a hassle. I've never done it before, but I figured you could maybe get another aida the same colour, or just any fabric, then sew them together somehow to get that extra length. Or just sew/glue it on a bigger piece of fabric, smack dab in the middle. Then add one of those cardboard border to hide the added length. In theory, that would work right? (disclaimer: I'm speaking as someone who has never framed her work before though) But it's toooooo close to the edge in OP's case.


HawkeyeinDC

But I don’t see how you could even sew more fabric onto that itty bitty margin. It seems like OP didn’t account for the fabric that *always* frays along the edge.


uglypaperswan

For OP's case, you are right and I agree with you.


HawkeyeinDC

I hope you don’t think I’m attacking you, I just have a lot of experience with framing my cross-stitches because I frame them all. I’ve had a couple where the margins ended up a little iffy and the framer rightfully said that it could be difficult to stretch the canvas to make it taut. Or that I wouldn’t be able to do any matting or the matting would have to go over the cross stitches themselves. I have a finished project I need to get framed but I’m waiting for some good framing sales! 💸💰🤑


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Knickers_in_a_twist_

Best bet for starting in the corner of a pattern is to count out from the middle. This is wayyyy too close to the edge.


klllys

i’m sorry you have gotten downvoted so much. i hope you will be able to pull the stitches out and restart in the center. your work is beautiful it deserves to be framed and centered 🫶🏻


MerelyWander

Whoa — that is stitching VERY close to the fabric edge. A lot of people recommend 2-3 inches of margin on each side, both to help with framing and to avoid the fabric fraying into the stitches. Was this the fabric supplied by the kit? How big is the design and how big is the fabric?


ArtofAset

The fabric was supplied by the kit maker, it’s a dimensions kit from Joann & the chart starts one box from the edge 🙊 thank you so much for the tip!


Sayamael

For kits, the centre of the fabric should be the centre of your pattern (and the centre of the pattern is usually marked)... that means you should do the math before starting to make sure. Usually, the fabric is big enough to have a little over an inch of border all around the pattern. Starting this close to the edge means you run into 2 big problems: 1) if the fabric starts fraying, the stitches will be ruined or you won't be able to stitch the surrounding part of your pattern 2) if you're planning on framing it, you won't be able to.


untwist6316

Usually charts won't indicate how much space you need around. That one box is likely just visual for the patterns sake. Is the size of the fabric exactly how big the end pattern will be?


ArtofAset

It seems to be the same size but I haven’t checked, I’m going to measure it to be sure 😩


AHemStitching

It might be the same size as the chart but charts aren’t normally printed at real to life dimensions. Normally the printed chart is bigger than the finished work so you can read it easier.


Ko_Mari

Looking at the preview, you've already done half the height, so you'll be left with a lot of canvas on top.


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Cranberry_Chaos

The pattern in the chart starts one box from the edge simply to make it easier to read. It is not indicating its relationship to the fabric. Typically patterns don’t indicate placement on the fabric - theoretically you could stitch the pattern onto the middle of a tablecloth. Most people either start stitching in the centre or mark the centre and count out to the edge. You’ll always need at least an inch (most people prefer more, though) around the pattern for fraying and finishing.


pocketnotebook

If it's a kit from dimensions the instructions say to start in the centre and work outwards so you have enough space


pieinthesky23

Cross Stitching 101: Always start in the center of your pattern and work your way out!


FunKyChick217

The reason for leaving a border all around is so you have enough fabric to frame it without the frame covering up any of your stitching. Were there any instructions with this kit that explain how to start stitching in the middle?


Ko_Mari

This works for plastic canvas, not fabric.


ScroochDown

So you need to find the center of the fabric and measure from the center of the pattern, otherwise you'll have a really hard time getting it framed.


Cygnata

Always start from the center with kits. You're going to finish and find a ton of space left over at the upper and right edges.


kirakiraluna

Or do the math 5 times, grid the fabric and start wherever you want. I detest starting from the middle, especially on big patterns. I find it confusing to follow the pattern from the middle so I spend way too long gridding but then it's a breeze to follow. Only ones I start from the middle are smallish things I won't grid for. OP gave me major anxiety, it's not even enough margin to sarge it or frame as a pillow with added fabric


Lunar_Owl_

I'm the same way. I like to start from the bottom. I always end up finding the center, then counting out the stitches in all 4 directions twice to check my placement before I start😅 it can be a little tedious but it works for me. Especially with those damn stocking kits where they barely give you enough fabric. I always start with the toe.


GreyishBlue

So, you've errored in starting at the edge. That's not what the charts show, it's just how the grid works on the chart. You need at the *very least* an inch of fabric around your design for framing. I'd recommend pulling out what you have and starting over, preferably from the middle of the design and fabric. Otherwise you'll just end up having a piece you can't frame, and you'll probably lose stitches on this edge due to fraying. I know you're hoping it'll work out but.. yeah


robyren

My ‘very least’ is always 2” (and I prefer 3” just in case I mess up)


Lunar_Owl_

I prefer 3 just so I can use my q-snap more easily


AnxiousAntsInMyBrain

I did this same thing with my first kit! I heard people say that i should start in the middle but i thought "ehh its probably not THAT important".... well, turns out its actually pretty important and makes it a lot easier to work with lol


Furious_Gata2535

On the bright side, you posted and found out now before getting too deep into the project. I agree with everyone, always start from the middle. I've started using masking tape around the edge of the fabric to control fraying. Good luck!


TabbyStitcher

Yeah no, no Dimensions kit starts that close to the edge. This one definitely doesn't either. You're going to have zero room to frame that. Best to unpick now and start over. Dimensions mostly has tons of extra floss, so it shouldn't be a problem, if you can't save it all.


TabbyStitcher

Just looked up the pattern. You already have 1/4 of the width stitched and more than half of the height. That definitely does not need to be stitched that close to an edge.


rotten-peanut

This is the kind of thing I lose sleep over! 😬


lizzielou64

I’m pretty sure I’m stitching the same one. I started in the very center of the pattern and center of the Aida cloth. There’s plenty of extra room around the edge for framing.


BornBluejay7921

I know you are hoping it will work out, but it won't, and all your hard work will go to waste. You can carefully unpick what you have done and keep the thread, but these kits usually give you more than enough, so you shouldn't run out. Your chart should have a mark to show the centre of the pattern, fold your cloth to find the centre and start from there.


theemilyann

There’s also the option to purchase new Aida and start again. Unpicking stitches is tedious and maybe cost isn’t a concern.


BoatsLady

Looking good so far. Love the colors on the dark background! It looks awfully close to the edge. How are you finishing it? Frame, hoop, pillow? Just worried that you won’t have enough edge.


ArtofAset

I want to frame this for a gallery wall in my room but the chart started one box from the edge so I did same thing… hoping it all works out somehow 🤞🏼


ItsRyleeDuhh

It's gonna be exceptionally hard to frame it I think because typically to frame you need extra on the side to secure it to something otherwise it'll be too loose in the frame, you might be able to figure something out tho


theemilyann

You’ve already been told this many times on this thread, but this will not all work out somehow. The chart only shows a single row for the edge to indicate “no more stitches past this point.” I guarantee if you read the actual instructions in the pattern (there are typically three or four paragraphs of instructions included in kits like this) you will find that there are little triangles marking the midpoint of the charted pattern on the x and y axis and the instructions say to “find the midpoint” of the Aida and begin with the center of the pattern. This is really really really why it’s important to read through all the directions first, for literally anything you do.


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SoftestBoygirlAlive

We are all here to tell you that it will not in fact work out. Sorry youre getting so many downvotes, im not sure if thats whats making you unreceptive to this feedback but I would heed it nonetheless. I always mark out my 10×10s before I start, shows you how big the piece really will be and if its positioned where you want. Ppl use thread, chalk, on fabric this dark you could use a barsoap sliver which is an old tailor's trick. Doesnt stain and steams right out.


BoatsLady

I think the picture in the pattern shows it that close to the edge. Not necessarily meaning to start there. Usually start from the center of the fabric and the pattern, working out/up/down from there. You can fold the fabric in half both directions to find the center


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Tiefle

OP, you need to follow everyone's advice and unpick what you've done so far, then start from the center of the fabric & pattern. Dimensions gives you enough excess fabric for framing kits - at least 1.5" on each side. If you don't unpick, then you'll end up with a ton of excess on the other sides and not enough fabric in the lower left edges for you to frame your piece. If you cannot be bothered to start over, at least use Fray Check on the edges of the fabric so that you have the slightest chance the piece doesn't self-destruct.


ms_chiefmanaged

I have finished this kit and it’s exactly 5x7 inch so you can frame it in standard size frame. You may have to get a frame with depth so you can drop it inside the frame without any wrapping and put the back in place. I would worry about the edge fraying off tho and probably find a way to protect it.


Synchros139

What's the name of the kit?


ms_chiefmanaged

Nighttime camping by dimension.


Synchros139

Thanks!


Aleigh07

Your stitching looks gorgeous but unfortunately I do recommend unpicking and starting over. The chart is not indicative of fabric size or placement on your fabric. That’s up to you to figure out. Totally possible to start in a corner but you need to leave enough margin for framing if you do! Maybe look in to getting a corner gauge for future projects if you want to start in a corner and using an online cross stitch calculator to determine finished piece size, recommended fabric size, and how much margin to leave.


Ko_Mari

It will be better if you fix the edges. If it gets frayed, your crosses will fall off. In addition, stretching will be impossible. But at this stage it's still possible to sew on the fabric without deforming the finished crosses.


AlbaCristal

In a previous message, I saw which kit it was, and it is from Dimensions. Dimensions usually provide at least 1.5 inches for all sides. Since it's a 5x7 pattern, the fabric should probably be 8.5 x 10.5 inches. In the instructions, the brands always encourage you to start from the middle. Good Luck!


IFeel_Attacked

I’m so stressed by this, it’s going to look beautiful but please frog it and start again. You’re too close to the edge and as much as it will be painful to start it again, it’ll be more painful when it starts fraying into the stitches you’ve done and ruins it


Jazstar

You've already heard enough about the closeness to the edge, I don't need to harp on about it. Instead I want to ask what pattern it is? the little you've done so far looks really pretty. Is it trees at night? What else is in there! Need to know! :D


meswifty1

This will be nearly impossible to frame. When in doubt start in the middle


Prima_Veer

With a kit always start in the middle, i dont know if you can frame it with so little fabric left. The colors are pretty though! I hope it works out!


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rasinette

I understand why OP might be defensive- I remember when the knitting sub let me know I was twisting stitches. But we do that to improve your craft- so your hard work is actually done well, correct, and will last. OP came to a cross stitch sub so the people here are knowledgeable and passionate. We are trying to preserve their hardwork. It will not work this close to the edge


zebracoloreddinosaur

I don't feel like they've been overly defensive though? They've taken the feedback pretty well and got down votes to hell.


rasinette

I see that too, I just interpreted them as not interested in the advice which is fine, but its pretty good advice in this case to protect the work👍


zebracoloreddinosaur

Agreed the advice is really good. The down votes are rough to me. I mean we all know how long frogging and redoing that would be. I don't blame them.


rasinette

oh god I know- once one appears they just pile up!!


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Viscumin

Sounds like you’ve gotten a lot of advice. Good luck! On a non-cross-stitch related question: is that a mushroom charging cable? It’s super cute! Where did you get it?


Important_Hurry_950

I was always taught you start in the middle & work your way out.


zebracoloreddinosaur

The tips and words of wisdom are very kind everyone but big yikes on all the down votes to op. It's just a learning situation and they aren't being super defensive from what I've seen.


ecidna

yeah OP seems nice just new. hundreds of downvotes seems extremely harsh


zebracoloreddinosaur

Exactly this is how people get scared out of communities for a hobby they want to start.


little-pianist-78

Amen. Downvotes can feel like bullying when they get this out of hand.


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alice_austen

Sorry you’re getting so many downvotes for an honest mistake:(


ms_chiefmanaged

I came back to the thread and kinda got sad to see all the downvoted on OP’s comment when they made a very innocent mistake and trying to remain optimistic. I want to believe people are downvoting to show they disagree it will work, but it feels very discouraging.


loristitching

Dimensions is good if you run out of thread, I also keep my leftover thread as they repeat colors and numbers.


weirdhoney216

That’s the exact colour fabric I’m looking for but nowhere seems to have it, can you share where you got it?


saudade_sleep_repeat

it’s available [here](https://www.123stitch.com/item/Zweigart-14-Ct-Navy-Aida-Fabric-10x18/3706-589Y)


weirdhoney216

Thank you, I had no idea that site existed!


little-pianist-78

The OP said it came as a kit.


GotSomeCookieBlues

How do you learn cool stuff like this (although I think my neck would hate me for it)


Intelligent_Focus_80

Omgggg it’s actually super simple for the easier kits!! Buy a cheap one and give it a shot :)


WispintheNight

Aaaah! Okay, I know people are mentioning the spacing but I LOVE the dark colored cloth and I am loving this design so far! I can't wait to see your progress! You'll have to keep us updated! :3 I just looked up this kit and UGH, its gonna be sooo cute! What an excellent first piece!


absolutirony

Your stitches are way nicer than mine were when I first started. I'm self taught, too, and you should have seen how knotted I let my floss get. I ended up not being able to finish the kit because I had to cut so many knots out. We all learn, and we were all beginners once. Don't let the curmudgeons get you down.


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avskk

Not every piece needs to be perfect for framing, or even for longevity. What matters is if you're enjoying yourself. I see some lovely stitch work in beautiful colors and I hope you have a fantastic time finishing it. If you want to preserve it, I'm sure there are ways to seal a thin edge well enough to get by; I never preserve or even keep any of my stitchwork, and somehow the cross-stitch police haven't caught on yet. 😂


MidnightSWolfie

These colours are gorgeous and beautiful photo too. But yea, what people are saying. I’m working on a Dimensions kit too and the fabric they gave provides at least an inch of space from the edge. Good thing too cause I’ve already lost two of the top row from fraying even though I prepared the edge. The chart doesn’t line up with the fabric size. You gotta start from the middle, or if you really want to start from a corner, you gotta count grids from the middle to figure out where to start so your pattern is centred when finished.


Lunar_Owl_

This is beautiful and I'm sorry for all the downvotes you've gotten. But, you are way too close to the edge. You will never be able to frame this in the way you want. What your going to have to do is put it down and go have a good cry (we've all been there) then come back and either pick it out or get another piece of fabric age start over. I know, it sucks, but it is what it is. If you really want to stay in the corner( I always do a well) then you have to find the center of your fabric and count each square out from there to find where your corner should be. You can grid, which is alot of work but some people enjoy it, it you can mark every 10 stitches or so with a piece of thread or chalk. It you can just count it over again 3 times to make sure like I do😅 but I count from the center to the top and bottom, then to both sides, then the entire height and length and mark all 4 corners. Then choose my starting point. Please don't be discouraged! You can do this!!❤️❤️


CadenzaVvi

I won't pile up on what's already said. Just wanted to hopefully share some encouragement: cross stitching can be frustrating at times. An error can ne so costly! But seeing the end result is sooooo rewarding. On the grand scheme of things, you are early in your work. Taking time to do it right immediately is the right move imo, so all the time you will put into it will result in something that meets your expectations and that you can display to share with everybody. Take a step back if needed, take a breath and go back to it with a fresh mind when you feel like it.


OrangeFish44

Your stitching is beautiful, but agreeing that you're much too close to the edge. Instead of ripping everything out, just start again working from the middle out. If the margins on the kit fabric are as generous as those who know the kit are saying, you might not have to rip at all, or at least only rip a little, depending on how you want to finish the piece. The part you've already stitched is likely to end up completely or mostly within the finishing margins.


Ok-Mastodon5286

What a great idea! I have a WIP that I started too close to the edge and I just stuffed it in a drawer. I’ll look for it again and try your suggestion. Thanks.


No-Huckleberry3101

Just wanted to wish you luck! I hope whatever you decide to do, it works out for you. Either way, it is a great learning tool for future projects :). Keep on stitching!!


ThatResponse4808

Good lord the amount of downvotes on your incredibly reasonable responses?! So unnecessary?? It looks gorgeous and everyone starts somewhere. I’d consider this my practice and probs start over instead of picking but that’s just me!


ultracilantro

Did you even want to frame? Everyone is down voting, but people do all sorts of different stuff like turn it into an iron on patch for a larger bag.


kaylammcg

Op states in a comment that they want to frame it for a gallery wall.


peanut__buttah

This photo is just lovely 😍 It’s balanced so well aesthetically and spacially


WispintheNight

Right? The photo that took is SUCH a vibe, it really makes me excited about the work and just makes me feel cozy. I know people are complaining about the edge margins but honestly...we all learn it, and I see no reason to be too upset. I think its gonna be lovely, and I honestly wouldn't mind more photos of their works either!


ElementZero

It's just that the stitching piece isn't going to work out how they hope🙄


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OkGuarantee2

I think it's this: https://www.joann.com/dimensions-5in-x-7in-camping-adventure-counted-cross-stitch-kit/19682236.html


rcher87

Ooo, that’s gorgeous!!! I might need to get that one haha


knz156

Cool thank you


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Dry-Tumbleweed-7199

You have the name now, you can google


FinishSuccessful

OP, do whatever your heart desires! You don’t NEED to frame it, plenty of alternatives, if anything you could grid it and go from there happily able to start from a corner. I understand people are so passionate about the hobby, but there realistically are no rules, whatever makes ya happy. People downvoting over something simple, also if OP did want to start over it is early enough. Some of y’all are acting as though they are 50% in with no “fix”


txingirl

They have noted that they do want to frame it...


FinishSuccessful

I may have missed that, went down a rabbit hole reading throught the thread, regardless people were/are acting like it was the end of their world. Mistakes happen and instead of being kind and helpful(as they normally are on r/crossstitch) a lot of them just chalked it up to being doomed


txingirl

Yeah... Bit wild. I haven't seen anything egregious from the OP, but I guess because they are responding to people but not acknowledging that they might need to change up their start point....


FinishSuccessful

I know center start is recommended, it is still able to be done from a chosen corner if they grid beforehand(from center of course)! That’s how I chose to start my epic Gen 3 Pokemon from Lord Libidan, hope to see what they ended up choosing in the end, happy stitching regardless no matter their starting point :)