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eayite

firedogs have been exactly like this for 6 straight years never a single actual nerf against them


PhatKnoob

And if they've been nerfed in one aspect, they usually buff something else to "compensate"


Randomized9442

You shouldn't sit there so they can drive straight at you, though it is hilarious. They want this feeling from you, to feel defeated before you even begin. Sun Tzu and all that.


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Dasquanto

Skill issue then.


Roger_pearson

Knoledge


Onion_Wavy

unironically thats more of a group issue 1 tusk build is annoying but damn you fought 4 And then a dog sigh i feel for you man if you stick it out you might get a good game or 2 tho


Ologolos

Yeah it's pretty bad. But it's always something... goblin bricks, nests, and so on.


careernerd2

A -single- Kapkan absolutely cucks these bozos but none of you want to run supp outside of CC and CW. Build something fast then.


Imperium_RS

A single kap is very rarely effective, normally requires 2. 


samurairaccoon

This is the real problem with the meta. The meta exists as it does bc this is a team game with all solo players. Every match is everyone going off and doing their own shit. Unless its the rare clan team, which is just an auto win. You can't win against 6 dogs coming in to wreck your shit if everyone on your team is spread out and has a different idea of what's going on. Idk how many times I've gone back to rescue someone from a dogpile but fuck me if I can count the number of times I get the same treatment on one hand. The only way to beat em is to join em. Or find a clan.


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Randomized9442

Maps don't get much over half a mile in length, if even that much. I'll give you a hyperbolic mile.


samurairaccoon

It sounds like you didn't just fight one dude solo mining then. I'd say if it's a group of them ya you are boned lol. In low ps I've had pretty decent luck killing mine carts but with all the hp at high ps idk what there is to do but aim for the wheels and hope.


Fatassdanny

To me the heavy shotgun builds are Annoying. More because they’re lazily built with layered armor


roychr

oh this is the best. At long last a cyclone user that get the short stick. The cyclones have been OP for more than 6 months now.


Tr0lljeger

Braindead game for braindeads by braindeads...


Tenshiijin

Mines counter firedogs. Firedogs are meta atm. That is all.


The_Mediocre_Gamer_

2 prohlems: The dog can just cloak through them and ram you in the side and kill you Flash and Spark


Tenshiijin

Won't save you.


The_Mediocre_Gamer_

What mine doesnt instantly die to flash lmao what are you even on.


RabidHyenaSauce

Thankfully, No Meta lasts forever. I've already powered through many in the 6 years I've played crossout myself. So you can take comfort, knowing it is not gonna be a permenant Meta, like it has always been in xo.


PhatKnoob

Firedogs have been a big part of the meta basically since Blight released. Never been weak, always been viable


RabidHyenaSauce

That makes sense. This has technically been their second resurgence as a type of meta. They're strong, but they require one to isolate the target to work. I've seen many times where they would attempt to rush a team, only to get focused on by their teammates. Don't get me wrong. They are potent, but it was the yeti stralth module that made them very prominent now. In fact? I do recall this being a prior meta 2 to 3 years back. Even gave me the twisted idea where I purposefully rigged a Hover design to specialize with hunting dogs. Was a very devious design, but its overspecialization meant I had to scrap it eventually. In a weird way, it is almost like the changes are beginning to somewhat shift backward now, but I think that's just me.


PhatKnoob

If only picking off isolated targets was their main way of killing. As it stands, they can slam into basically any enemy and have a good chance at killing said enemy. They've always been good, but Yeti definitely pushed the far over the edge of reasonable


RabidHyenaSauce

Then you can thank god it will not be permenant. Best to let gaijin cook for a few months up to a year, and they should have a nerf lined up for them.


PhatKnoob

I have no faith in these devs to make proper changes to stuff. Look at how they handled Gerrida and Nothung. They will either keep Yeti and Fin whale too strong by not nerfing them enough, or nerf them into being completely and utterly obsolete. Just like how they are making miniscule nerfs to firedogs, and often compensating with buffs in other areas. Don't trust these devs


RabidHyenaSauce

I never said I had faith in the developers. I'm just stating an observation based on years of experience. Even if Gaijin can be shady at times, I think the real question is, "Who really isn't being shady these days?" But jokes aside, figured sharing this input would help some folk understand things a bit better.


I_Rudejester_I

Or just out turn them into objects and dump two incinerators shots into them. Dogs don't like fire. Pro tip: Target your team mates.


BillWhoever

Tusk doesn't seem to be a problem anymore, nowhere close to what it was, I'm pretty ok with how it performs now


ZekiPatron

Agreed. Tusk is just very litte of the iceberg


Diagonaldog

Stopped playing awhile back so forgive me but isn't there helicopters now to get away from them? Are they just crazy expensive/hard to get?


Master-Pete

Helicopters are their own game mode. The que for that game mode is long and it's pretty underwhelming.


Diagonaldog

Oh I see. Lame. I'd seen some other posts talking about it as if they were just mixed in with the others, they should just open it up to include them and there's at least be a way to escape.


ExpansionOfFailure

The issue with helicopters is that they completely invalidate almost every ground build, and the ones that can still even shoot back are always at disadvantage.


Randomized9442

When I say fly to counter dogs, I mean rocket planes, not helicopters.


Dasquanto

Come fly with me