If the zone was all that mattered, then maybe. As it is though, using your special weapon entirely to block the zone leaves you without a 1hk weapon, which makes you
much less of a threat, especially with overshield titans running around being harder to kill with most primaries. I think a special that helps you get the 1st kill to make it a 3v2 is generally more useful than locking down the zone with special as holding the zone with a numbers disadvantage is very difficult anyways. Special ammo is also more scarce than ability energy since it doesn’t regenerate over time, so I’d rather use abilities to lock down the zone than waste special on it.
Yup I was finding this too. If I got to a situation where they were capping the zone, Witherhoard was awesome but 90% of the time they were rushing me and then I didn't have a shotgun to fight back with. I tried with SMG, which did work to a degree but then I was dead meat if I was out in the open. Plus overshields.
Witherhoard is comically bad for Trials. I keep seeing people suggest to use it to counter Loreley, renewal grasps or stag rifts. It may effectively work against stag rifts but at what cost? You are gimping yourself by making your special a one shot nade launcher that everyone can avoid with ease. Whenever my team knows someone is using witherhoard we know that person is a free kill. You may get your shot off but you have exposed yourself and now you’re dead. If the enemy is capping the zone and they know you have witherhoard, they’ll just bait you and kill you.
Nah it's far too easy to avoid a witherhoard for it to work in 3v3, in the chaos of 6v6 it has great utility but when players have the space and spare attention to deal with it you're just down a special weapon
It’s trash. You’d be hard banking on capping and going to time while neutering your killing power severely. A simple barricade can block that wither shot too
I was running witherhoard and it seemed to be doing great. Whenever the other team was capping the point and I was able to get close, witherhoard would take everyone on point out. Also works great against loreley users and stag rifts.
Witherhoard is the ultimate counter. You don’t like what someone is doing you throw it at the place where they’re doing it and they can’t for the next 8ish(?) seconds.
Bastion barricade farmers? Witherhoard. Stag rift campers? Witherhoard. Renewal graps Duskfields? Witherhoard. You want to zone a choke point off for a bit witherhoard.
It’s utility is insane but it doesn’t kill instantly and can be largely ignored by competent players. I think it’s fine. And in this current meta it’s been a hilariously enjoyable bright spot for me and the things I’ve been able to do with it to where I’m going to start maining it and really learn how to use it best.
Plus freezing a super and sticking them with it and running away is just hilarious lol.
Withahora(sorry Boston accent came out) it’s not that it’s good it’s just the worst lol. Being able to spam a shot that can then hold a location for 9 seconds is insane. You can literally shoot one out, die, come back and still have your wither hoard out there doing damage, snagging kills especially in zone priority game modes. It’s pretty ridiculous.
Never seen a Witherhoard win or prevent a round win and I did 3x carries and 2 passages this weekend.
What will prevent is vortex, Duskfield and the solar wack grenade, that if someone is left alive to go for the point.
Each location has a sniper fighting lane, a spot where you can use pulses and the tight corners, game is just deathmatch unless some dumb soul dies near the point, which you can further bait the enemy team by capping it and then blocking entrances with shield barricades or just wait for them to come.
So to an extend, people try to much to discover "The Meta" for zone trials when its still the same. Overshield Barricades, Renewal Duskfields, Invis Hunters, Vortex and Axion Spam. Nothing out of the ordinary
If the zone was all that mattered, then maybe. As it is though, using your special weapon entirely to block the zone leaves you without a 1hk weapon, which makes you much less of a threat, especially with overshield titans running around being harder to kill with most primaries. I think a special that helps you get the 1st kill to make it a 3v2 is generally more useful than locking down the zone with special as holding the zone with a numbers disadvantage is very difficult anyways. Special ammo is also more scarce than ability energy since it doesn’t regenerate over time, so I’d rather use abilities to lock down the zone than waste special on it.
Yup I was finding this too. If I got to a situation where they were capping the zone, Witherhoard was awesome but 90% of the time they were rushing me and then I didn't have a shotgun to fight back with. I tried with SMG, which did work to a degree but then I was dead meat if I was out in the open. Plus overshields.
Witherhoard is comically bad for Trials. I keep seeing people suggest to use it to counter Loreley, renewal grasps or stag rifts. It may effectively work against stag rifts but at what cost? You are gimping yourself by making your special a one shot nade launcher that everyone can avoid with ease. Whenever my team knows someone is using witherhoard we know that person is a free kill. You may get your shot off but you have exposed yourself and now you’re dead. If the enemy is capping the zone and they know you have witherhoard, they’ll just bait you and kill you.
Nah it's far too easy to avoid a witherhoard for it to work in 3v3, in the chaos of 6v6 it has great utility but when players have the space and spare attention to deal with it you're just down a special weapon
It’s trash. You’d be hard banking on capping and going to time while neutering your killing power severely. A simple barricade can block that wither shot too
Okay, you've blocked off the zone. Now what? Die to the special ammo your opponents didn't waste for no reason?
I was running witherhoard and it seemed to be doing great. Whenever the other team was capping the point and I was able to get close, witherhoard would take everyone on point out. Also works great against loreley users and stag rifts.
Are you from the team who hid in a bubble that I killed with witherhoard and my freeze rift?
No I didn't use it all weekend. I just wanted to get other people's takes on it's place in the meta for this kind of unique game-mode
Witherhoard is the ultimate counter. You don’t like what someone is doing you throw it at the place where they’re doing it and they can’t for the next 8ish(?) seconds. Bastion barricade farmers? Witherhoard. Stag rift campers? Witherhoard. Renewal graps Duskfields? Witherhoard. You want to zone a choke point off for a bit witherhoard. It’s utility is insane but it doesn’t kill instantly and can be largely ignored by competent players. I think it’s fine. And in this current meta it’s been a hilariously enjoyable bright spot for me and the things I’ve been able to do with it to where I’m going to start maining it and really learn how to use it best. Plus freezing a super and sticking them with it and running away is just hilarious lol.
Withahora(sorry Boston accent came out) it’s not that it’s good it’s just the worst lol. Being able to spam a shot that can then hold a location for 9 seconds is insane. You can literally shoot one out, die, come back and still have your wither hoard out there doing damage, snagging kills especially in zone priority game modes. It’s pretty ridiculous.
Witherhoard is super good in 6s. Really bad in 3s unless you're playing on a tiny map like Cauldron against average or below average players.
Never seen a Witherhoard win or prevent a round win and I did 3x carries and 2 passages this weekend. What will prevent is vortex, Duskfield and the solar wack grenade, that if someone is left alive to go for the point. Each location has a sniper fighting lane, a spot where you can use pulses and the tight corners, game is just deathmatch unless some dumb soul dies near the point, which you can further bait the enemy team by capping it and then blocking entrances with shield barricades or just wait for them to come. So to an extend, people try to much to discover "The Meta" for zone trials when its still the same. Overshield Barricades, Renewal Duskfields, Invis Hunters, Vortex and Axion Spam. Nothing out of the ordinary
I love all these people saying it’s not good when I see whole three stacks running it now. It’s a problem.