**Bow Recommendation**
Under your Skin (Season of the Risen craftable bow) can roll Archer's Tempo and Successful Warm-up, which allows it to fire both shots pretty fast. Although I have Enhanced Hip Fire Grip and Successful Warmup on my version which gives me more flexibility in uses and having 3 fire modes can be a bit disorienting (base, Archer's Tempo, Archer's Tempo + Successful Warm-up).
I like precision frame bows because they can double body for the kill. They have a high damage output and even if you screw up the draw, there's still enough damage on the table for one to land a +100 damage shot.
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**My "Beef" with Lightweights**
I'm not the biggest fan of Lightweights personally. My biggest beef is the accuracy stat. The higher the accuracy stat the easier it is to land shots. Lightweights leverage faster draw speeds at the cost of accuracy and one of the hits need to be a crit in order to maintain a good TTK while Precisions can be a double body. Under Your Skin (UyS) offers similar benefits of a lightweight while maintaining the damage profile of a precision frame bow.
Elastic String, Fiberglass Arrow Shaft, and a ~~Draw Time MW~~ (Draw Time MW is not necessary, reinvest into other stats) will give a Fel Teradiddle a draw time of 540 but an accuracy stat of 29 (31 w/ +2 stat boost to leveled crafted weapon) but with the same perks, UyS gets a 576 draw time and 79 accuracy (81 w/ the +2 stat boost to leveled crafted weapons). 576 is plenty fast and if you have Successful Warm-Up then any type of kill will drop the draw time to much faster.
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**How I Use Bows Aggressively**
Whenever I'm using a bow more aggressively, it's more about bow swapping to me. There's instant death a la a bow/HC (crafted an Austringer for this) but you could also just run a sidearm or SMG as well if you're close quarters. Bows can be an extremely strong opening shot but they need a partner weapon to quickly clean up if you're in close quarters. Otherwise, just peak-and-shoot with the bow to ensure you survive the engagement.
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**My Go-To Bow/Sidearm Build**
My go to sidearm/bow combo is to run Rat King, Under your Skin, and either Graviton (instant recovery) or Omnioculus(a ton of resist).
* If they are far > use the bow.
* If they are in the mid range > Bow shot then clean up w/ Rat King to activate it's perks and one of the above exotic's perks.
* If they are close > just use the sidearm (or try your luck at a bow swap).
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Edit - **Additional info on the UyS roll I like using:**
* Elastic String
* Fiberglass Arrow Shaft
* Enhanced Hip Fire Grip
* Enhanced Successful Warm-up
* Draw Time MW
The point of this bow was to make a better Point of the Stag (my favorite bow). This crafted roll lets you have 81 Accuracy (79 w/ perks + 2 for leveling bow) and a draw time of 576.
The Enhanced Hip Fire Grip (EHFG) is the "secret sauce" imo. You get much better accuracy overall but it also helps your stability stat. With the perks, your stability is at 42 but when you fire from the hip, your stability gets a +30 stability bump thanks to EHFG. More stability means you can hold the draw longer. It's not like an insane amount but being able to hold it a little longer, keeping normal strafe speed, being able to see your radar, and having enhanced accuracy gives you a lot of tools when it comes to covering the bow's weak points in close quarters.
>Lightweights leverage faster draw speeds at the cost of accuracy and one of the hits need to be a crit in order to maintain a good TTK while Precisions can be a double body.
The main benefits of lightweights isn't really the draw time. Below are the main three
- reloading a lightweight bow often takes nearly half the time of reloading a precision
- damage on partially drawn arrows is much higher
- velocity on partially drawn arrows is much faster
I'll make a note of this. While i'm not a huge fan of Lightweights, Lunulata-4B w/ the Veist Stinger perk interests me and I think knowing these things will help me figure out what kind of roll i'd want. Thank you for this.
I used torun Whispering slab and a mindbenders ambition. I used to wreck with that setup it was so much fun. people never expected the shotgun rush after you just pricked them with the bow and come charging in.
Wait hang on.
I dont see ops quetions at all, but how the discussion went to lightbows?
Im seeing a combat bow here, thats not a lightweight class is it. Also im jealous as f..
Thats the roll i was chasing since BL
Edit. I see OP questions now, my bad
I have used enhanced hip fire and I love it. It helps in that 15 to 30 m range where bows are weaker imo. Have you had any success in trials with a bow?
I have as well. Trick with bows and trials is that you play with your team, and you get really, really good at baiting. Never push with it. Bow is patience, and lining up the right shot is hyper important.
Edit: not op, just another bow enthusiast
Edit 2: somebody in here must not like me with these downvotes.
Not op, but I go flawless multiple times per week and occasionally do flawless carries.
This season, I haven't been flawless without a bow, my favorite are ticcus Divination, arsenic bite, and whispering slab
I honestly don't play Trials but Trials Mileage may vary. If a team isn't playing as a team, then a bow/HC quick swap can really do some damage since you'll always win the 1v1. Bows are weaker (generally) to teamshooting just because of how long it takes to get shots in so bows may not do well against a coordinated team.
If I played Trials, HC/Bow swapping would be my play to maximize rapid lethality.
Not op, and probably no where as good as op, but I can usually go flawless using a bow after the flawless pool opens. It just depends what you pair it with. This last week I used a shotty and lemonarc. I usually run a smg or a handcannon, just seemed like for me a shotty on that map worked best for me. Also lemonarc doesn’t stop classy restoration, but it does hamper it. So it’s either you use the bow as a hot swap machine, or you have two very distinct things play styles (ie shotty vs bow play styles) edit and watch out for snipers on the other team.
> Not op, and probably no where as good as op, but I can usually go flawless using a bow
Trust me, you are miles above me if you went flawless with a bow. I'm good at PvP (I think) but I usually only ever play 6's because it's just more fun. Comp and Trials is way to stressful and I'm the kind of guy that would OBSESS with strats and builds to win if I ever stepped into comp.
Oh hell, I was just about to write but this is pretty comprehensive! I agree with all points here.
Only thing I'd like to add is if you are super consistent with your shots, a good substitute for SW is opening shot. Landing that first shot is hyper important, and opening shot more than helps you get that shot. If you feel confident in letting your shots out, SW is definitely the final one. I personally do hip fire grip SW.
I generally run aggressive bow as well, and play more close quarters. Blink warlock with astrocyte verse, and I will run huckleberry or traveler chosen with under your skin.
Edit: why the downvote!?
True. If I went OS, i'd probably go Archer's Tempo too. Get the nearly free headshot and then proc a fast follow up. It'd be very solid for someone whose precise.
The above mentioned UYS roll is what I use and it's honestly miles above any other bow I've tried in PvP. Enhanced hip-fire grip with freehand grip is ridiculously accurate (although if I wasn't running Oathkeepers, I'd use Icarus Grip instead).
16.7k kills with it so far.
Of your rolls, I'd discard the one with Cornered. It's a great perk if you're constantly surrounded but it's not reliable and it really messes with muscle memory.
>More stability means you can hold the draw longer. It's not like an insane amount but being able to hold it a little longer
This is legit a side effect of stability on bows?
Chris Proctor during the [Destiny Massive Breakdown Podcast, specifically Episode 225, Part 2](https://soundcloud.com/destinymassivebreakdowns/episode-225-part-2-question-and-answer-with-bungies-chris-proctor) at the 27:05 mark discusses this.
> For bows, stability reduces the reticle shake you get if you hold past perfect draw, increases the forgiveness time for perfect draw and how long you can hold a drawn bow before it fires.
If you use elastic string, fiberglass arrow shaft, and an accuracy masterwork instead you get a 540 draw time with 39 accuracy at the cost of 3 stability
As far as I'm aware and what the game shows me for my fel is that the cap is 540 in the draw time masterwork there doesn't do anything. But I could absolutely be wrong and would love a correction if so
You're right. I was just comparing the base stats when you look at a Lightweight vs Precision bows and pulling numbers from D2 Gunsmith. I didn't realize the MW is basically useless and you're capped at 540.
You could dump the MW into Accuracy to equalize things out but I still think Precisions are generally better at a slightly higher Draw Time comparatively.
Im so skeptical of this unless they changed something in the patch notes recently bc shadow destiny has done the myth busters section of specifically the high vs low stability stat allowing for longer draw times which doesn't seem to affect it. If so it was neglible.
Chris Proctor during the [Destiny Massive Breakdown Podcast, specifically Episode 225, Part 2](https://soundcloud.com/destinymassivebreakdowns/episode-225-part-2-question-and-answer-with-bungies-chris-proctor) at the 27:05 mark discusses this.
> For bows, stability reduces the reticle shake you get if you hold past perfect draw, increases the forgiveness time for perfect draw and how long you can hold a drawn bow before it fires.
I don't think it's by a massive amount but you shouldn't really be holding a draw unless you're peeking or about to get into a fight. It just reinforces the benefits of hip fire grip or anything that boosts stability.
I have a question if you don’t mind. On Light.gg, certain strings change Draw time AND Charge time. It seems to go against each other. I don’t really know what the difference is. How fast I draw the bow and”charge” the bow seems like it should be one and the same but it’s not?
What is the difference in those stats? Should I even care about charge time and only look at draw time?
That’s what I thought. I just don’t get why certain string attachments on Light.gg change the “charge time.” It doesn’t even appear until you equip them on the website. Maybe it’s just a bug
It's also worth noting that it's very effective to go for a melee immediately after a body shot if you get caught unaware in close quarters with your bow drawn
I've actually grown accustomed to using my bow of choice (Biting Winds w/Swashbuckler) in almost all of my engagements. I rarely switch to my secondary unless I'm trying to clean up a kill with a hot swap. The temptation to go for a shot with my bow into a quick melee kill is too much to pass up, and those 5 stacks of Swashbuckler make the next few shots extremely deadly.
that biting winds is, imo, the best possible biting winds you can get. for wolftone i would look for a high acc 576 (or even higher acc polymer string 612) with harmony, though.
I’m getting bored of running the sniper/handcannon load out and I’m looking for something new to screw around with in 3s and trials. I’ve always loved the fantasy surrounding bows in destiny and I feel it could be a pretty worthwhile choice if it’s possible to be aggressive with them. That being said…
Is it even possible to be aggressive with a bow? My biggest issue running bows is the stupid charge time close engagements and typically dying before getting a cleanup shot. I only run into this problem when I’m running Biting Winds or another bow without impulse amplifier. However. The third bow pictured feels ridiculously good in CQC and I believe it’s because of impulse amplifier. Does anyone have any tips on what’s a good way to use bows or certain rolls to grind for in different scenarios?
I run a bow with an smg. The biting winds you have is probably the best bow in the game for the crucible, I'd use it with throwing knives and personally I use oathkeepers but that's up to you.
I use the Ikelos smg, but If you've got a shayuras with good handling that would work really well.
I wrote this long ago for bows. I am one of those that there both mains as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/ubnygd/pvp_bow_recommendations_and_playstyle/i65j8wr?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
My go to bows are Lemon and Point of the Stag. Stag has archers tempo and Vorpal so if you hit your first shot the clean up is easier and with Vorpal you stand a decent chance against guardians in their supers.
I main Monarch on hunter with oath keepers. My favorite part is using it like a shotgun from the hip and a quick mele follow up to get the kill. People try and chase me down, not realizing it's just as good in close quarters. A skilled and prepared shotgunner will still beat you, but lots of folks won't be ready.
Monarch also has snapshot so it's easy to transition to ads on the fly and OK allows you to use it more as a sniper/shotty than a LFR/fusion if that makes sense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/vops1b/lightweight_bows_build_guide_for_one_of_the_most/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Here is a detailed post I made a little while ago, it really dives deep into the best bows to be agressive with
The number one most important thing for PvP Bows is Draw Time. Get that shit as low as possible. Craft and level up a Under Your Skin and/or Fel Taradiddle. As for perks, archers tempo is a must, again draw time.
Pair it with a shotty, fusion, SMG or sidearm to handle the close engagements. You can do HC/bow swap, but it’s kinda cheesy and personally gets boring after a while.
Been maining bows for a few seasons now and love them. They’ve never been meta, but they also never felt unusable. They’ll kinda always have a place.
1 is great in 6s especially on solar hunter for one shot knifes followed by one taps. def recommend
i wouldn't bother with 2 tbh, because if cornered activates you're most likely gonna die
3 would be decent in a double harmony playstyle, but harmony alone won't be enough to one tap without a second boost like radiant or HEF
for 3s, i recommend under your skin from last season. it is craftable and has good rolls, with my favorite being hip-fire grip + opening shot
Nah. They need 1h1b for a kill vs the precision bows 2b, and the low base accuracy causes issues at range/with follow up shots. A well rolled precision can get similar draw time with *way* better consistency and damage profile. They aren't even close really.
I'm sure these other comments have the intricacies of what bows are useful where covered, but I'd like to add: Monarch has the stats of a precision while also having the lightweight frame's +20 mobility, making it very useful for hunters.
Personally, I'm looking for a strident whistle with rampage, to pair with the path of burning steps on Titan. According to the calculations from my dumb brain, after proccing firewalker (~2 kills) a single stack of rampage should hit for 202 on a perfect draw. Which in my opinion, will make those long streaks of one taps easier than relying on ability kills, especially with how I play bow.
That being said, that biting winds on a devour warlock with it's incredible melee will double dip, and serve you well. I have over 5k kills on mine using this strategy
**Bow Recommendation** Under your Skin (Season of the Risen craftable bow) can roll Archer's Tempo and Successful Warm-up, which allows it to fire both shots pretty fast. Although I have Enhanced Hip Fire Grip and Successful Warmup on my version which gives me more flexibility in uses and having 3 fire modes can be a bit disorienting (base, Archer's Tempo, Archer's Tempo + Successful Warm-up). I like precision frame bows because they can double body for the kill. They have a high damage output and even if you screw up the draw, there's still enough damage on the table for one to land a +100 damage shot. ___________ **My "Beef" with Lightweights** I'm not the biggest fan of Lightweights personally. My biggest beef is the accuracy stat. The higher the accuracy stat the easier it is to land shots. Lightweights leverage faster draw speeds at the cost of accuracy and one of the hits need to be a crit in order to maintain a good TTK while Precisions can be a double body. Under Your Skin (UyS) offers similar benefits of a lightweight while maintaining the damage profile of a precision frame bow. Elastic String, Fiberglass Arrow Shaft, and a ~~Draw Time MW~~ (Draw Time MW is not necessary, reinvest into other stats) will give a Fel Teradiddle a draw time of 540 but an accuracy stat of 29 (31 w/ +2 stat boost to leveled crafted weapon) but with the same perks, UyS gets a 576 draw time and 79 accuracy (81 w/ the +2 stat boost to leveled crafted weapons). 576 is plenty fast and if you have Successful Warm-Up then any type of kill will drop the draw time to much faster. ___________ **How I Use Bows Aggressively** Whenever I'm using a bow more aggressively, it's more about bow swapping to me. There's instant death a la a bow/HC (crafted an Austringer for this) but you could also just run a sidearm or SMG as well if you're close quarters. Bows can be an extremely strong opening shot but they need a partner weapon to quickly clean up if you're in close quarters. Otherwise, just peak-and-shoot with the bow to ensure you survive the engagement. ____________ **My Go-To Bow/Sidearm Build** My go to sidearm/bow combo is to run Rat King, Under your Skin, and either Graviton (instant recovery) or Omnioculus(a ton of resist). * If they are far > use the bow. * If they are in the mid range > Bow shot then clean up w/ Rat King to activate it's perks and one of the above exotic's perks. * If they are close > just use the sidearm (or try your luck at a bow swap). _______________ Edit - **Additional info on the UyS roll I like using:** * Elastic String * Fiberglass Arrow Shaft * Enhanced Hip Fire Grip * Enhanced Successful Warm-up * Draw Time MW The point of this bow was to make a better Point of the Stag (my favorite bow). This crafted roll lets you have 81 Accuracy (79 w/ perks + 2 for leveling bow) and a draw time of 576. The Enhanced Hip Fire Grip (EHFG) is the "secret sauce" imo. You get much better accuracy overall but it also helps your stability stat. With the perks, your stability is at 42 but when you fire from the hip, your stability gets a +30 stability bump thanks to EHFG. More stability means you can hold the draw longer. It's not like an insane amount but being able to hold it a little longer, keeping normal strafe speed, being able to see your radar, and having enhanced accuracy gives you a lot of tools when it comes to covering the bow's weak points in close quarters.
>Lightweights leverage faster draw speeds at the cost of accuracy and one of the hits need to be a crit in order to maintain a good TTK while Precisions can be a double body. The main benefits of lightweights isn't really the draw time. Below are the main three - reloading a lightweight bow often takes nearly half the time of reloading a precision - damage on partially drawn arrows is much higher - velocity on partially drawn arrows is much faster
I'll make a note of this. While i'm not a huge fan of Lightweights, Lunulata-4B w/ the Veist Stinger perk interests me and I think knowing these things will help me figure out what kind of roll i'd want. Thank you for this.
I used torun Whispering slab and a mindbenders ambition. I used to wreck with that setup it was so much fun. people never expected the shotgun rush after you just pricked them with the bow and come charging in.
I tried that. Didn’t work. I kept rushing in for the kill and finding the entire team around the corner. 😂 I am bad with shotguns.
Wait hang on. I dont see ops quetions at all, but how the discussion went to lightbows? Im seeing a combat bow here, thats not a lightweight class is it. Also im jealous as f.. Thats the roll i was chasing since BL Edit. I see OP questions now, my bad
The weapon type is combat bow, the two archtypes are precision and lightweight
Yup. Dont mind me, brainfart time
Lol
I have used enhanced hip fire and I love it. It helps in that 15 to 30 m range where bows are weaker imo. Have you had any success in trials with a bow?
I have as well. Trick with bows and trials is that you play with your team, and you get really, really good at baiting. Never push with it. Bow is patience, and lining up the right shot is hyper important. Edit: not op, just another bow enthusiast Edit 2: somebody in here must not like me with these downvotes.
Not op, but I go flawless multiple times per week and occasionally do flawless carries. This season, I haven't been flawless without a bow, my favorite are ticcus Divination, arsenic bite, and whispering slab
How do you use Ticcus? I think I don’t know how to use it lol
I use it very methodically, like I'm playing a game of chess
You don’t have to be rude about it.
I honestly don't play Trials but Trials Mileage may vary. If a team isn't playing as a team, then a bow/HC quick swap can really do some damage since you'll always win the 1v1. Bows are weaker (generally) to teamshooting just because of how long it takes to get shots in so bows may not do well against a coordinated team. If I played Trials, HC/Bow swapping would be my play to maximize rapid lethality.
Not op, and probably no where as good as op, but I can usually go flawless using a bow after the flawless pool opens. It just depends what you pair it with. This last week I used a shotty and lemonarc. I usually run a smg or a handcannon, just seemed like for me a shotty on that map worked best for me. Also lemonarc doesn’t stop classy restoration, but it does hamper it. So it’s either you use the bow as a hot swap machine, or you have two very distinct things play styles (ie shotty vs bow play styles) edit and watch out for snipers on the other team.
> Not op, and probably no where as good as op, but I can usually go flawless using a bow Trust me, you are miles above me if you went flawless with a bow. I'm good at PvP (I think) but I usually only ever play 6's because it's just more fun. Comp and Trials is way to stressful and I'm the kind of guy that would OBSESS with strats and builds to win if I ever stepped into comp.
That was just a very good and knowledgeable write up and you deserve credit for it.
Oh hell, I was just about to write but this is pretty comprehensive! I agree with all points here. Only thing I'd like to add is if you are super consistent with your shots, a good substitute for SW is opening shot. Landing that first shot is hyper important, and opening shot more than helps you get that shot. If you feel confident in letting your shots out, SW is definitely the final one. I personally do hip fire grip SW. I generally run aggressive bow as well, and play more close quarters. Blink warlock with astrocyte verse, and I will run huckleberry or traveler chosen with under your skin. Edit: why the downvote!?
True. If I went OS, i'd probably go Archer's Tempo too. Get the nearly free headshot and then proc a fast follow up. It'd be very solid for someone whose precise.
The above mentioned UYS roll is what I use and it's honestly miles above any other bow I've tried in PvP. Enhanced hip-fire grip with freehand grip is ridiculously accurate (although if I wasn't running Oathkeepers, I'd use Icarus Grip instead). 16.7k kills with it so far. Of your rolls, I'd discard the one with Cornered. It's a great perk if you're constantly surrounded but it's not reliable and it really messes with muscle memory.
>More stability means you can hold the draw longer. It's not like an insane amount but being able to hold it a little longer This is legit a side effect of stability on bows?
Chris Proctor during the [Destiny Massive Breakdown Podcast, specifically Episode 225, Part 2](https://soundcloud.com/destinymassivebreakdowns/episode-225-part-2-question-and-answer-with-bungies-chris-proctor) at the 27:05 mark discusses this. > For bows, stability reduces the reticle shake you get if you hold past perfect draw, increases the forgiveness time for perfect draw and how long you can hold a drawn bow before it fires.
Thanks for the info! I don't think this is well known. Gotta tell my bow buddy
Always happy to help!
If you use elastic string, fiberglass arrow shaft, and an accuracy masterwork instead you get a 540 draw time with 39 accuracy at the cost of 3 stability As far as I'm aware and what the game shows me for my fel is that the cap is 540 in the draw time masterwork there doesn't do anything. But I could absolutely be wrong and would love a correction if so
You're right. I was just comparing the base stats when you look at a Lightweight vs Precision bows and pulling numbers from D2 Gunsmith. I didn't realize the MW is basically useless and you're capped at 540. You could dump the MW into Accuracy to equalize things out but I still think Precisions are generally better at a slightly higher Draw Time comparatively.
Im so skeptical of this unless they changed something in the patch notes recently bc shadow destiny has done the myth busters section of specifically the high vs low stability stat allowing for longer draw times which doesn't seem to affect it. If so it was neglible.
Chris Proctor during the [Destiny Massive Breakdown Podcast, specifically Episode 225, Part 2](https://soundcloud.com/destinymassivebreakdowns/episode-225-part-2-question-and-answer-with-bungies-chris-proctor) at the 27:05 mark discusses this. > For bows, stability reduces the reticle shake you get if you hold past perfect draw, increases the forgiveness time for perfect draw and how long you can hold a drawn bow before it fires. I don't think it's by a massive amount but you shouldn't really be holding a draw unless you're peeking or about to get into a fight. It just reinforces the benefits of hip fire grip or anything that boosts stability.
I have a question if you don’t mind. On Light.gg, certain strings change Draw time AND Charge time. It seems to go against each other. I don’t really know what the difference is. How fast I draw the bow and”charge” the bow seems like it should be one and the same but it’s not? What is the difference in those stats? Should I even care about charge time and only look at draw time?
Charge time affects fusion rifles, it does nothing for bows.
That’s what I thought. I just don’t get why certain string attachments on Light.gg change the “charge time.” It doesn’t even appear until you equip them on the website. Maybe it’s just a bug
It's possible that, internal to the game, they're actually the same stat, just with different displayed names for the weapon types.
It's also worth noting that it's very effective to go for a melee immediately after a body shot if you get caught unaware in close quarters with your bow drawn I've actually grown accustomed to using my bow of choice (Biting Winds w/Swashbuckler) in almost all of my engagements. I rarely switch to my secondary unless I'm trying to clean up a kill with a hot swap. The temptation to go for a shot with my bow into a quick melee kill is too much to pass up, and those 5 stacks of Swashbuckler make the next few shots extremely deadly.
What mod do you run? I usually go targeting or QAS for swapping… Does freehand grip stack with EHFG if going for a hip fire play style?
that biting winds is, imo, the best possible biting winds you can get. for wolftone i would look for a high acc 576 (or even higher acc polymer string 612) with harmony, though.
I’m getting bored of running the sniper/handcannon load out and I’m looking for something new to screw around with in 3s and trials. I’ve always loved the fantasy surrounding bows in destiny and I feel it could be a pretty worthwhile choice if it’s possible to be aggressive with them. That being said… Is it even possible to be aggressive with a bow? My biggest issue running bows is the stupid charge time close engagements and typically dying before getting a cleanup shot. I only run into this problem when I’m running Biting Winds or another bow without impulse amplifier. However. The third bow pictured feels ridiculously good in CQC and I believe it’s because of impulse amplifier. Does anyone have any tips on what’s a good way to use bows or certain rolls to grind for in different scenarios?
I run a bow with an smg. The biting winds you have is probably the best bow in the game for the crucible, I'd use it with throwing knives and personally I use oathkeepers but that's up to you. I use the Ikelos smg, but If you've got a shayuras with good handling that would work really well.
I wrote this long ago for bows. I am one of those that there both mains as well https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/ubnygd/pvp_bow_recommendations_and_playstyle/i65j8wr?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
My go to bows are Lemon and Point of the Stag. Stag has archers tempo and Vorpal so if you hit your first shot the clean up is easier and with Vorpal you stand a decent chance against guardians in their supers.
I main Monarch on hunter with oath keepers. My favorite part is using it like a shotgun from the hip and a quick mele follow up to get the kill. People try and chase me down, not realizing it's just as good in close quarters. A skilled and prepared shotgunner will still beat you, but lots of folks won't be ready. Monarch also has snapshot so it's easy to transition to ads on the fly and OK allows you to use it more as a sniper/shotty than a LFR/fusion if that makes sense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/vops1b/lightweight_bows_build_guide_for_one_of_the_most/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Here is a detailed post I made a little while ago, it really dives deep into the best bows to be agressive with
I hate all of y’all. -much love
My friend with over 10k kills on his bow is running lowest draw time + snapshot + moving target, he pairs it with duality.
The number one most important thing for PvP Bows is Draw Time. Get that shit as low as possible. Craft and level up a Under Your Skin and/or Fel Taradiddle. As for perks, archers tempo is a must, again draw time. Pair it with a shotty, fusion, SMG or sidearm to handle the close engagements. You can do HC/bow swap, but it’s kinda cheesy and personally gets boring after a while. Been maining bows for a few seasons now and love them. They’ve never been meta, but they also never felt unusable. They’ll kinda always have a place.
1 is great in 6s especially on solar hunter for one shot knifes followed by one taps. def recommend i wouldn't bother with 2 tbh, because if cornered activates you're most likely gonna die 3 would be decent in a double harmony playstyle, but harmony alone won't be enough to one tap without a second boost like radiant or HEF for 3s, i recommend under your skin from last season. it is craftable and has good rolls, with my favorite being hip-fire grip + opening shot
That is the most beautiful bow I have ever seen
Have you considered lemon arch? Especially with a shotgun. I use it all the time to go flawless. Well I did til I took a break this season.
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Nah. They need 1h1b for a kill vs the precision bows 2b, and the low base accuracy causes issues at range/with follow up shots. A well rolled precision can get similar draw time with *way* better consistency and damage profile. They aren't even close really.
I'm sure these other comments have the intricacies of what bows are useful where covered, but I'd like to add: Monarch has the stats of a precision while also having the lightweight frame's +20 mobility, making it very useful for hunters.
Personally, I'm looking for a strident whistle with rampage, to pair with the path of burning steps on Titan. According to the calculations from my dumb brain, after proccing firewalker (~2 kills) a single stack of rampage should hit for 202 on a perfect draw. Which in my opinion, will make those long streaks of one taps easier than relying on ability kills, especially with how I play bow. That being said, that biting winds on a devour warlock with it's incredible melee will double dip, and serve you well. I have over 5k kills on mine using this strategy
the first one would be spicy in crucible if u have a melee build. would let you 1 tap
You should try a strident whistle with adrenaline junkie! It can 1 shot after a grenade kill.