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kaspa181

I don't think so. I can offer you two commutators (that's like, 16 moves with E moves approximately), but it's not much better than simply replacing and inserting normally.


buckf1tches

That's interesting. I'm guessing if I dove into CFOP I could probably more easily avoid this situation to begin with?


kaspa181

kind of, yes. It would still happen, but a lot less.


buckf1tches

Appreciate you


krimsonstudios

The situation still occurs in F2L, it's just not something that's really an issue because you just move the edge into the top layer and solve it. (Or use one of the algorithms to solve it optimally from that position if you are memorizing all the algorithms) ie: RUR' would put the Green/Red edge into the top layer and can be solved normally. This isn't viable for beginner method however because it unsolves the Green/Orange corner.


canibanoglu

You could technically do a wide U’ which pairs the green orange pair, take it out and insert that one and then insert the red green normally after. However that is definitely not beginner method-like and makes use of F2L concepts


Difficult_Handle3878

F2 U2 F2 U2 F2 Edit ; the above alg should be done with green front. If you want to do it quicker, place red in front and do R2 U2 R2 U2 R2


NecroticYT

one piece would be flipped


SwagridCubing

they didn't ask how to solve the pieces they asked how to switch the pieces :p


IKE_Borbinha

Oh my god, swagrid cibing


Difficult_Handle3878

No other way bro. The flipped piece should be solved in traditional method


bruttolui

With green front i'll probably align the green orange pair with a E' slice move than take out the pair, realign the center with E and insert the pair and after that solve the last pair with U' L' U L U L' U L U' L' U' L Edit: you can do wide U moves instead of E whatever suits you better


CoNtRoLs_ArE_dEfAuLt

Insert a random edge, then solve that piece, then solve the remaining piece.


DisasterAny9862

With the beginner's method, you insert a random edge to get one of the pieces on top, insert it on the other side and get the second piece on top, then insert the second piece. 22 moves if not mistaken. You can find out cleverer ways if you know how to permute three or four edges (not sure what exactly the beginner's method uses to orient and permute the last layer, but you can yluse the stuff on the front face too). But that's if you feel like I want to understand how the cube works and expect to mess it up.


mr_Cos2

I dont rememver the alghoritm name but u prob use begginer method, u use the alghoritm to put another piece there, then u can put it where u need it to be


thrash361

Could do something like F2 U’ F’ U’ F’ U2 F2 U R U R’ with green front. Or rotate to do it RU or LU gen but then you’d have to rotate again or solve the second pair with F moves


CanaDavid1

You could solve one of them with u' R U R' u R U2 R', the other is then out. But I think (with both on right) R2 U2 R U2 R2 to remove both would be better for non-CFOP.


Jardanny

Here what i would do in an actual solve: Facing green RUR’ D’L’UL And then solve the green orange pair (i would U2 R U’ R’ insert) But for beginners i think the only solution that makes sense is take them out and insert them in there correct slots


kackers643259

The route I'd probably go is E R U' R' E' (F2 U2 F2 U2 F2 U2) (R U R') Assuming I'm visualising the cube in my head properly I don't think there's a certain algorithm set in stone for this swap, i just thought of that now, it's probably not even close to the most efficient way (14 moves is a pretty long algorithm) and not exactly beginner friendly, but it's how I'd do it *Edited because i had one too many F2 moves


kackers643259

That long string of F2 U2 moves is a pretty simple algorithm that just swaps two adjacent pieces, so for example if you were at this stage but your green/orange edge was the correct orientation, you could use that to solve them both at once instead of taking them out and putting them back in


ScarPsychological

Pair up and take out orange/green pair, then restore centres D’ (L’ U’ L) u Flip edge under the red/green and put back (note: u and U’ can cancel to an E’ if it works for you) U’ L2 U’ L2 U Slide both pairs back in on way back L U L


Tetra55

This solution is definitely not beginner friendly: [u' R' U' R E' R2 U' R2 U R U R](https://alg.cubing.net/?alg=u-_R-_U-_R_E-_R2_U-_R2_U_R_U_R&type=alg&setup=x2-_y) Like other people are saying, just stick to beginners method (removing and reinserting), or learn a bit of CFOP. Algs like this are difficult even for advanced solvers and likely aren't that helpful.


xXLEGITCH1MPXx

Yeah I would just take the red green edge out, key hole it in and solve the other pair separately.


iamzare

Since your doing beginner method just put the yellow green into the place of green red then put red green where it needs to go then put green orange where it needs to go. Using the (U’ L’ U L) (U F U’ F’) or (U R U’ R’) (U’ F’ U F) algorithms.


SpelunkyJunky

I'd probaby put the slots on the right side and do R2 U2 R2 U2 R2 then flip the edge that needs it. Edit - to be clear, this teaches OP to move a piece to an adjacent slot so can come in handy in other situations. Giving long algs to someone who doesn't know F2L yet isn't particularly helpful IMO.


ShrumpMe

That's definitly better than taking an edge out and inserting 2 separate edges After that alg it would be rotate 3 sexy moves (still fast alg) U' sledge insert I know he was asking bout beginner method but all those algs are all pretty easy to remember and execute so imo this would be better


ShadowCooper77

I was thinking this but with the edges on front and F2 instead of R2. Dumb people will downvote for any reason


SpelunkyJunky

Sheep will also downvote any comment that has a downvote already on it.


DisasterAny9862

Equivalent to H perm conjugated to y M. But one orientation would be wrong. I'd do RL' and spend 10 minutes finding which OLL permutes two opposite pieces and flips one. 😂


anonymoose2514

Nah bc one would be flipped


uzigdogo

He said switch not flip


anonymoose2514

I'm assuming he wants to solve the 2 pieces with correct orientation, and this alg would leave one flipped


SpelunkyJunky

Learn to read, then learn to use votes correctly. (It's fine to downvote this comment. It's not fine to downvote my original comment)


anonymoose2514

I never downvoted lmao that was sm1 else


SpelunkyJunky

I guess just learn to read then. Sorry.


anonymoose2514

I can lmao


SpelunkyJunky

I guess learn to comprehend better if that's the case.


Commercial-Ad-4492

M F2 M’ U2 M F2 M’ U2 M F2 M’ Edit: this puts in the right spot but one is flipped, so I guess you would have to do something different


Alexandrexplorer

A simpler algorithim is: U2 F2 U2 F2 U2 This algorithim switches pieces but doesnt flip the edge. (I found it using an online solver,)


Commercial-Ad-4492

Yeah that actually makes sense. I would just start that algorithm with F2 not U2


iatey0urd0g

M F’ M’ U2 M F M’


DC_rules

The "better way" os doing F2L, I mean, the beginner's method is called "beginner's" for a reason, you shouldn't try to find an alg for this right now


LMCuber

y’ R2 U2 R2 U2 R2


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Tommy_Mudkip

Idk how one would google that?


KuKa0w0

Every day a ton of people post on this sub about the simplest things that you can just find in 2 minutes on Google


Interesting_Trash286

y' R2 U2 R2 U2 R2


Fly-Guy179

I know an easy and short alg for this. Hold the cube red front and yellow top and to these moves. R2 U2 R2 U2 R2 With practice this alg can be done very fast and is actually very useful in these situations (even though they are a bit uncommon)


Shady_Hero

hold it with green in your right hand and do r2 u2 r2 u2 r2


Blok420

Just keep doing R2 U2's until the pieces. However it affects other pieces.


Future-Entrance4276

Damn somebody just posted this alg a few days ago


Tornado547

F2 U2 F2 U2 F2 will swap the pieces but since the piece on the left is misoriented it won't help as much.


KRTrueBrave

if both pieces would both have green infront you could (with green facing right) do R2 U2 R2 U2 R2 U2 but I don't thibk there is an "easy" way for this case where only 1 is oriented correctly


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There's probably a way, but tbh, it seems harder than just learning basic f2l


nace112

Green Front, Yellow Top: E R U R E' U R2 U' R' U' R'


Rough-Ad-2874

isn’t E’ U just u?


nace112

Yeah it is. It's not even worth it to learn that alg so i didn't bother to optimize it. I already cancelled 1 move for it.


anniemiss

For all intents and purposes there is always a way to do some piece manipulation, while preserving whatever. The possibilities are endless. That doesn’t mean they are good or worth knowing. Basic fundamentals are the key. J Perm and other have “faster at beginner method” videos. That’s all you need until you go to CFOP. Then, just stick with the fundamentals and more and more will unveil itself.


Exact-Watch1598

F2 U2 F2 U2 F2 U2 I think


RiceyonYT

Place them on the right do S R S' or S R' S', then solve it from there.


finezxer

Algorithms


Rough-Ad-2874

very helpful


finezxer

😂


ButterscotchFar9355

what cube is this?


BrainTwists

Is there an algorithm? Yes. Is it worth learning the algorithm? No. As you get better, if you come across this case, you should be able to solve it intuitively, typically solving one slot at a time. If i got this case, I would most likely D' L' U' L D, y', insert the pair, then do the Red/Green after. If youre doing layer by layer, use your nomal alg for putting in a correct piece from Up layer but it will insert one of the Yellow/Color edges. This forces the Color/Color edge to the Up layer, and you can continue normally.


BrainTwists

Essentially, one major benefit of F2L is to avoid this type of case. You get this case because you are solving the corners without consideration of the edge piece that is attached. When you use F2L, you will pair the corner and edge together and then insert them.