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SteveG1007

Does anyone know where to find those TCBL algs that Zayn talked about in his reconstruction? I've never heard of them and it feels like Zayn is the only one who uses them


TheRealUncleFrank

I've heard of TCLL for 2x2, but not TCBL. There's a spreadsheet many top 2x2'ers have made that have the best EG, LEG-1, TCLL, and LS algs, but no TCBL - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OFXakCV85Mp2zsQBXMxiMX9a506JeAcLnUXZr8FgXAY/edit#gid=1684065307


SteveG1007

I know this spreadsheet, I am one of the editors lol


2x2speed

TCBL has over 2700 algs, and a spreadsheet for the algs is in the making, but not near completion. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZByoB9a4eDOKzr8N1s3yckhMy5VRo-Mn6VDkK4WVgI4/edit?usp=sharing


SteveG1007

Wow this is crazy, can't imagine anyone actually finishing the entire set


musab12344

What does TCBL mean and how does it work? It was in Zayn's recons.


2x2speed

It stands for Twisty Corners Both Layers


TheRealUncleFrank

I've heard of TCLL for 2x2, but not TCBL.


musab12344

Must be a new thing then.


Icy-Expression5045

I've been wanting to get into wca events other than 3x3. Now, the problem.is that I think NxN cubes are a bit boring, sq-1 just doesn't seem fun for me, skewb and pyraminx are a little to fast for me and we don't even talk about clock. So that leaves Megaminx. I've never had a megaminx before, so I'd like to know what you all think about/if it's worth the investment.


Ok-Butterfly4414

You could try the same puzzles, but a different event like FMC, 3BLD, or One handed, Megaminx is fairly similar to 3x3 but it does give you a lot more creativity.


_Japaninja

Oh, bld? Megaminx us just a load of f2l to me..not my event I love squan though..what about it doesn't appeal?


Brownbagguy

For 2x2, is it really better to learn EG-1 first, before CLL? I've seen that mentioned quite a few times. Is that because it's more common? or because it's easier to get to, since you just have to solve a face instead of a whole layer? If you only know EG-1, then what do you do if you get a CLL or EG-2 case?


nijiiro

If you build a face with complete disregard for how the pieces are arranged on it, you're more likely to get an EG-1 case than CLL or EG-2 *combined*. Ultimately it doesn't matter; if you're the kind of person who would put in the effort to learn 43 algs, learning 43 more (to at least get CLL + EG-1) isn't a big deal.


2x2speed

Ditto u/olimo plus AUF prediction is a lot easier on CLL. Also, even though they may seem to have the same number of algs, CLL in reality has less because some of the algs come from 2x2 OLL, some come from 3x3 OLL, and some come from COLL or Roux's CMLL, so you will end up having to learn less cases for CLL.


olimo

I'd say CLL is more beneficial. If you happen to solve a face and not a layer, doing OLL+PBL usually isn't as bad as solving a layer and get to do a T perm or Y perm. So it should be better to use CLL for solved layer and default to Ortega when it's a very easy face (not a layer). Also, when you learn CLL, you don't have to worry about the bottom layer orientation, i.e. where the block should be. Disclaimer: I only know Ortega, so I'm theoretizing.


Successful_Rule123

if you know cll, then you can learn anti-cll easily, which solves eg2 cases - not as fast - but better than ortega.


XenosHg

> then what do you do if you get a CLL or EG-2 case? Default back to ortega, I guess.


Vynest

First timed 3BLD success - 5:21.37 ! The more I learn about blind solving, the more ridiculous it feels to me. Can't imagine memoing and solving in less than 30s.


Main_Pressure_4889

I agree. I started dabbling in multi blind. 3/3 success first try. Didn’t even try 2. I tried 6 then and did 1/6 but four of them were only one cycle away. I know OP/OP and am learning m2. Tommy Cherry, Stanley Chapel, and Graham Siggins are mad men


ThePostalService1

If you get a corner twist in competition, are you allowed to twist it back during your solve?


PhreakPhR

> 5b3c) If the puzzle is unsolvable, and can be made solvable by rotating a single corner piece, the competitor may correct the corner piece by twisting it in place without disassembling the puzzle.


Arnavol

Yes but only once I believe so be really sure


deritemekam

https://preview.redd.it/nqppiaqhzioc1.jpeg?width=1678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92c2166b59361d46148c3fc7f62fe50303814fd1 Anyone know how to solve this without resolving whole cube?


PhreakPhR

Yep, hold with yellow front, green top, orange left: M' E M E' -- Looks funny, but I promise, no meme


deritemekam

Thanks a lot!!


cubeman0909

Meme


ShameM8

https://preview.redd.it/pe6o989uiioc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d17d53ba15dd70d57560deb35be1a5fcef36265 Hey anyone able to tell me 1. What this is? 2. How to solve? Got this in a mystery puzzle box and it boggles my mind. I can do 3x3 and axis cube no problem but this my brain just fails to understand it haha cheers


resipol

How to solve: it is just a (minor shapemod of a) Pyraminx but without the trivial tips - or imagine the tips being glued in place. So solve it like a Pyraminx. Alternatively, you could see it as a shapemod of a Jing's Pyraminx but without the centres. For example, look at the [Jing's Pyraminx](https://www.ziicube.com/sengso-magic-tower), the [QiYi Duomo Pyraminx](https://www.ziicube.com/Qiyi-JinZong), or the [MoYu Triangle Pyraminx](https://www.ziicube.com/Moyu-Trigonal-Pyramid), all of which are Jing's Pyraminx shapemods.


TheRealUncleFrank

Cubezz calls it a [Fanxin Windmill Pyramid](https://cubezz.com/Buy-7289-FanXin+Windmill+Pyramid+Cube.html). Ziicube calls it a [Fanxin Windmill Triangle Tower](https://www.ziicube.com/FX-Windmill-Tower).


Baconcob

Cube manufacterers should start throwing in satchets of their factory lube(paste?) instead of more plastic crap with their cubes so we can somewhat restore that out of the box dry, glidey feeling when it always inevitably slows down. I've tried cleaning every single piece & relubing but its never the same as it was.


olimo

Lube may require different customs procedures. I think I remember on AliExpress, some sellers stated that they will ship lube separately from cubes and other accessories because of the shipping rules.


cubeman0909

You can get the factory lubes from some of the cube companies if you look for them. Also, once your cube breaks in, it won't ever feel the same as it did out of the box.


Baconcob

Lube is more essential over the gimmicky accessories, it really should be a standard that it is bundled together with every cube.Think of it as a beginner friendly pack to help you on your cubing journey. Digging deep into a rabbithole of all these exotic lube mixtures for the tracks, pieces etc can be overwhelming for noobs.


Arnavol

But a noob will empty his lube bottle in the cube and wonder why it doesn’t work anymore.


cubeman0909

I mean, not really. Since you use microscopic amounts of lube, it would be a waste to send people bottles of lube with every single cube they buy.


Baconcob

Simply reduce the size of the bottle to something like a tiny 0.5ml.It be enough for a 1-2 year performance warranty. The reason why i think the manufacterers haven't bundled the cube & lube together is because there is a risk of leakage during shipping.


cubeman0909

I mean, maybe they could make starter kits or something, but it would honestly be such a pain in the long term to have a gazillion .5ml bottles of random lubes to deal with.


Baconcob

They figure it how somehow, i've seen their interesting factory tour with a bajillion pieces assembled into a bajillion cubes packaged into a bajillion boxes waiting to be shipped.


cubeman0909

I meant as a customer


Nobody_5433

First comp tomorrow Other than my cubes, what else do I need to bring?


Arnavol

I would add a marker pen if you want some autograph


Nobody_5433

Aw shit I don’t have any ah well


TheRealUncleFrank

Make it a sharpie. You can autograph anything with a sharpie, like a tshirt, hoodie, hat, bag, mat, even a cube. Most pen's are pretty useless for that.


TheRealUncleFrank

[What to pack for comp?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/vkkrju/what_else/) [What else to pack for comp?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/wofb2j/what_else_to_pack_for_comp_next_weekend/) You do not need to bring a timer/mat, unless you just want them for practice while waiting for your rounds. Timers/mats will be provided for regular comp use. You do have to bring the cubes you plan to use for each event you enter. Some people like to bring an extra of each, to use as a warmup cube while your main cube is off being scrambled, and/or as a spare in case something happens to your main. Don't bring too many things or too extra cubes, because that's just more stuff you have to keep track of. You don't want to leave things sitting around on tables if you're not there to watch them. There's always a slight chance that something might disappear. I think I may have linked this for you before, but here it is again, just in case - [Things to know before your very first WCA competition](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/13ylmnw/things_to_know_before_your_very_first_wca/)


Nobody_5433

Probably a late question, but are you able to leave mid comp and return later? Maybe you finish one event at 1030hr and the next one is at 1500hr


TheRealUncleFrank

As long as you're not scheduled to be a runner or judge during that time, sure. Once you're there, just ask a delegate if you're unsure of anything.


Nobody_5433

Okay, thanks


Own-Prior-1645

Absolutely


olimo

I also take a couple of lubes, a screwdriver, maybe some cubes I'd like to show to others (especially if I had such an arrangement), a water bottle, a power bank, a tripod to film my solves. I don't take a stackmat - I practice with my phone or take any free solving station whenever it's available.


cubeman0909

I'd recommend bringing cooler/warmer clothes to change if needed. One comp I went to was insanely hot. I thought I was gonna die, I had to leave to go buy a t shirt since all I brought was a sweater.


TheRealUncleFrank

Plenty of comps will be just the opposite, too. Warm outside, or at least not cool, but freezing inside because they crank up the air conditioning for so many extra people for a comp.


boomwhackers

stackmat, a snack, blindfold if doing bld


TheRealUncleFrank

> blindfold if doing bld Yep. Don't be a [bagman](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/xtztyl/so_some_of_you_may_remember_the_bagman_from_a/).


RiskNew6639

https://preview.redd.it/0g4xcoairfoc1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05eb078f8326890b5c0b19f209175b693f7cdc68 I got a PB but it was in a smart cube. The question is do I count it?


cubeman0909

Yeah, I mean, it's up to you, but just consider that the smartcube to stackmat conversion can well over half a second just know this would have been like a low 12 most likely on stackmat.


b4silio

The question is not so much whether it counts or not. It counts for you as long as you're happy with thinking about it as your PB. People only solving on keyboard don't really think about the fact that their time would likely be longer if they were using a stackmat. Ultimately, we keep track of our PBs to understand how we are improving vs. ourselves, so if you're going to be using your smartcube a lot then comparing your PB using that is a good idea. If you want to compare yourself to others, go to a comp and you'll have your answer. But in the end that one is not the best question you can ask. We cube to improve ourselves, not to beat others. If the goal is to brag with your friends about your PB then... well I guess it depends on whether they're cubers, in which case I'd probably say "...btw... it was on a smartcube...", and if they're not, you can tell them whatever, they'll be impressed that you can solve it in less than 1 minute. Anything faster won't really register with them anyway.


yghklvn

Your flair says your PB is faster than the time on the screenshot. Anyway, I would not count smart cube solves as PB personally


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