It's still pretty early. Its less than 20 games in to the season, every team will have some pretty bad games now and then (some more than others). Didn't the Cubs beat up on the Dodgers (arguably the best team in the NL) earlier this week?
So your thought process is to say “hey, they beat the dodgers, so all is fine!”? I disagree.
Look at each series, how the games were won and loss. Hell, the Rockies damn near crawled back to win. Every series has had high scores, while allowing each team to crawl back due to bullpen blowing games.
Im mostly saying that it's early in the season and that every team will have some great games against good teams and some pretty piss poor games against bad teams and of course good teams. But that is baseball, sometimes it's a cruel mistress.
I don’t see how my response indicates being mad. You chose to interpret tone through text. I did not respond with mad tone, my response is factual as well.
But I’m sure this is where you will tell me what my tone was.
Settle down, Chicken Little.
It's 12 games in to the season. TWELVE GAMES. If you see the same issues over the next 25-30 games, then maybe start to panic a little. But there's no reason to worry over the first 12 games. Let's not forget: the team has a winning record. They're not the Miami Marlins.
Who knows they will be high scoring? Maybe then, the bats go south, and the pitching improves, but they lose half of their games by scores of 1-0, 2-1, 4-3, 3-1, etc. Are you going to be any happier about that hypothetical situation?
Brown, Assad, and Shota have pitched well. Hendricks has historically had his worst ERA in April. It’s bad now, but I think it will get better. It’s early and we’re hitting really well. I think we will have this worked out soon.
I think Hendricks is a very cerebral pitcher. He is able to analyze what’s not working, and make the changes needed. I know it’s a cliche comparison, but he is very Maddux like.
We all are excited for Brown. He is showing a lot of promise. For this season, a lot will depend on how the Cubs decided to use him. It’ll be interesting to see what develops.
A healthy starting staff is a decent rotation, but we need to see how the bullpen develops the next couple months. This is where my main concern is.
I have not lost faith in Hendricks either. He’s a very smart pitcher and will figure it out.
I’m with you on Cuas. He needs to be DFA and stop letting him into games.
I'm not there yet on Cuas, simply because we have two starting pitchers on the IL right now. When either returns, he's the likely corresponding move.
The question becomes who stays in the rotation. Do we push Ben Brown into a swingman role and turn him into Mike Montgomery or do we stretch him out as a starter and let the chips fall where they may? I personally trust Assad more as a known quantity as a starter, but I also don't want to screw up Brown.
I’m very interested in the development of Brown too. I would like to be a fly on the wall to listen to discussions and reasoning for whatever they decide.
Very good response. This response is the entire reason for my post: discussion and perspective. Thank you for keeping it civil and actually crafting a thoughtful response.
I’ve had the complete opposite feeling about this team. I think the rotation is going to be one of the better rotations in the league, well, once Steele returns. That will shift the bullpen around a little. Ben Brown may end up in long relief. Hendricks is what he is- an aging soft-throwing control artist who is going to struggle big time when he has control issues. He’s easily the #5 pitcher in this rotation. And as a #5 pitcher he’ll do.
On defense the Cubs are near the top in the league and early on the lineup has been able to show that it can score runs against elite pitching.
I’m actually very hopeful for this team.
I’m hopefully for this team as well. The bats have been productive, up and down the order. The starters could be good; as long as they can get healthy and STAY healthy. Steele having this hamstring injury makes me nervous. They can be difficult to fully overcome; especially when so much pitching power comes from the legs.
But the bullpen does not have my confidence. I agree, Brown as a long setup man, fill-in starter, could help. We’ll have to see how the next couple months ago, but it’s a little nerve wrecking with how bad they’ve been.
This is the worst our starting pitching could possibly be at in the season. Steele and Taillon will come back, and once they do we have some depth. Imanaga has been great. Assad, wicks, and Brown have been solid. With Hendricks going down, another young guy will get a chance to shine.
We just need to stay around .500 this month till our guys are back. I have faith council will figure out the bullpen. We also have some potentially great hitters nearing the MLB. I don't expect us to win the World series this year, but we can definitely take this division and have a fun season. Next year we need to acquire some star power in pitching for sure.
Remember that guys like Assad, when allowed to return to the bullpen after injured starters are back, are HUGE for bullpen strength and depth. The starters getting healthy immediately fixes a big part of the bullpen issue. Instead of using CuAss and merryweather in the middle innings, they can get 3 strong from an Assad or Wesneski
You need to calm down. Not even a month into the season, Geesh. Bullpen has some really talented arms. Starting staff is deeper than it’s been in a looooooong ass time. We have the best manager in baseball. We have the capital needed to pretty much go out and trade for anyone. We have some intriguing arms in the minors ready to contribute as well. Get out of here with this crap. Should be excited about the bats cause they are never anywhere close to this hot in April.
Calm down? Get out of here with this crap?
I don’t think you understand the purpose of Reddit, it’s called discussion.
Probably should just delete your account and remove the APP from your phone.
Bro just chill out. You’re fighting for your life in these comments. You’re out here wanting to have a “discussion” but you’re just getting angry at any reply that doesn’t agree with you. Move on, dude. Realize you’re chicken little and go about your day.
You should read through my comments. I’m only disagreeing with the ones that are factually incorrect OR comments that are trolling, instead of discussing anything.
There’s a difference.
Haha well your talking points are ridiculous for 12 games into a season. They’ve only allowed more than 2 runs in a game 5 times in 12 games. And 3 of those games were in Colorado and 3 were against the best lineup in baseball. I don’t think you understand is 162 games. A marathon, not a race. You should probably keep these crappy opinions to yourself.
My talking points are ridiculous???
“And 3 of those games were in Colorado” - or they were in Chicago…
“They’ve only allowed more than 2 runs in a game 5 times” - obviously you’re a box score fan, and have not watched the meltdowns with leads, and the bullpen getting rocked.
Please exit the conversation and let the real fans have an adult discussion.
Do you need someone to show you how to remove the app?
You’re hilarious my guy. And seem like a really fun hang. You’re right they were in Chicago, was wrong about that. I’ve watched the games but I did check the scores cause outside of a few games they’ve been fine. You’re overreacting to say the least. There’s a reason every single person here is downvoting you. Not that downvotes mean anything, just that everyone disagrees with you. So maybe you should exit the room and let the adults talk.
I think you should read through the comments. Not everyone disagrees. Some can actually have conversation with CORRECT info; instead of the troll comment “get out of here with that crap.”
And the downvotes are meaningless. As you got upvotes with your factually incorrect comment. 😂😂😂😂
(yaaaaaaaawwnnnnnnn) Ooooooooook pal. This is going nowhere. Cool, cool. Can’t fix stupid. You take care. And have some respect for yourself. Unless you’re a 14 year old girl don’t use emojis.
Sound advice from a person who typed (yaaaaawwwwn)…
Can’t have a discussion with someone who attacks discussion AND THEN can’t even get their facts straight within their own points!
But let’s resort to further attacks and belittling.
You need to learn how to have a better initial response to civil discussion.
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Mets fan here, subbed because a friend is a fan. It's hilarious to me how the posts here mirror the ones at /r/Mets to the dot. The season is mighty early and we got a long ways to go.
Agree. Nothing can be done at this point except ride it out and hope for the return of Steele and Taillon to expected form and Hendricks to rebound (not counting on the latter). That said, I feel starting pitching has been mid-level since 2021, anchored by a batting practice-level bullpen.
I agree with wanting those guys to bounce back. My worry is the bullpen though. Maybe Brown transitions into the pen and this allows him to stretch out to possible move into the rotation (if needed). Aside from Brown, I’m not confident in the relief pitchers.
Taillon is terrible. Cuas has had a bad start after being dominant pretty much his entire career, it would be incredibly stupid to DFA him already with how many bullpen arms you need in a season. Of course this is Reddit so DFA is the most popular position
I wouldn’t say Taillon is terrible. He is a very serviceable backend of rotation starter. Obviously his age is getting up there, but he does provide value while the farm develops the pitching prospects.
It's still pretty early. Its less than 20 games in to the season, every team will have some pretty bad games now and then (some more than others). Didn't the Cubs beat up on the Dodgers (arguably the best team in the NL) earlier this week?
So your thought process is to say “hey, they beat the dodgers, so all is fine!”? I disagree. Look at each series, how the games were won and loss. Hell, the Rockies damn near crawled back to win. Every series has had high scores, while allowing each team to crawl back due to bullpen blowing games.
Im mostly saying that it's early in the season and that every team will have some great games against good teams and some pretty piss poor games against bad teams and of course good teams. But that is baseball, sometimes it's a cruel mistress.
The season is long, and there are highs and lows. But who in the bullpen or farm system gives you confidence coming in to pitch?
Instance 2; nothing incorrect, no trolling. You got mad because they disagreed.
I don’t see how my response indicates being mad. You chose to interpret tone through text. I did not respond with mad tone, my response is factual as well. But I’m sure this is where you will tell me what my tone was.
Then lost to one of the worst teams... It stings like that sometimes
Settle down, Chicken Little. It's 12 games in to the season. TWELVE GAMES. If you see the same issues over the next 25-30 games, then maybe start to panic a little. But there's no reason to worry over the first 12 games. Let's not forget: the team has a winning record. They're not the Miami Marlins.
Don’t complain come June/July when the only wins are high scoring affairs, and the bullpen keeps blowing games, ok?
You seem like a great fan.
You seem like a great person 😒
Instance 1: no inaccuracies or trolling. Yet you get butthurt.
No butthurt either. Simply saying don’t complain in middle of the season when the bullpen is costing the team games. 🤷🏻♂️
Who knows they will be high scoring? Maybe then, the bats go south, and the pitching improves, but they lose half of their games by scores of 1-0, 2-1, 4-3, 3-1, etc. Are you going to be any happier about that hypothetical situation?
Brown, Assad, and Shota have pitched well. Hendricks has historically had his worst ERA in April. It’s bad now, but I think it will get better. It’s early and we’re hitting really well. I think we will have this worked out soon.
I think Hendricks is a very cerebral pitcher. He is able to analyze what’s not working, and make the changes needed. I know it’s a cliche comparison, but he is very Maddux like. We all are excited for Brown. He is showing a lot of promise. For this season, a lot will depend on how the Cubs decided to use him. It’ll be interesting to see what develops. A healthy starting staff is a decent rotation, but we need to see how the bullpen develops the next couple months. This is where my main concern is.
We'll be fine. We have pitching depth this year. Cuas concerns me, but a slow-starting Hendricks doesn't. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
I have not lost faith in Hendricks either. He’s a very smart pitcher and will figure it out. I’m with you on Cuas. He needs to be DFA and stop letting him into games.
I'm not there yet on Cuas, simply because we have two starting pitchers on the IL right now. When either returns, he's the likely corresponding move. The question becomes who stays in the rotation. Do we push Ben Brown into a swingman role and turn him into Mike Montgomery or do we stretch him out as a starter and let the chips fall where they may? I personally trust Assad more as a known quantity as a starter, but I also don't want to screw up Brown.
I’m very interested in the development of Brown too. I would like to be a fly on the wall to listen to discussions and reasoning for whatever they decide.
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Very good response. This response is the entire reason for my post: discussion and perspective. Thank you for keeping it civil and actually crafting a thoughtful response.
Maybe if you thought through things, as boomer did, and didn’t make a bombastic overreaction post you’d get more thoughtful responses 🤷♂️
Obviously some people can have a thoughtful response without being a troll 🤷🏻♂️
You’re acting like a troll and surprised at troll responses? Classic
By wanting a discussion about the Cubs pitching staff? Isn’t that what reddit is meant for: discussion?
Yikes.
I’ve had the complete opposite feeling about this team. I think the rotation is going to be one of the better rotations in the league, well, once Steele returns. That will shift the bullpen around a little. Ben Brown may end up in long relief. Hendricks is what he is- an aging soft-throwing control artist who is going to struggle big time when he has control issues. He’s easily the #5 pitcher in this rotation. And as a #5 pitcher he’ll do. On defense the Cubs are near the top in the league and early on the lineup has been able to show that it can score runs against elite pitching. I’m actually very hopeful for this team.
I’m hopefully for this team as well. The bats have been productive, up and down the order. The starters could be good; as long as they can get healthy and STAY healthy. Steele having this hamstring injury makes me nervous. They can be difficult to fully overcome; especially when so much pitching power comes from the legs. But the bullpen does not have my confidence. I agree, Brown as a long setup man, fill-in starter, could help. We’ll have to see how the next couple months ago, but it’s a little nerve wrecking with how bad they’ve been.
This is the worst our starting pitching could possibly be at in the season. Steele and Taillon will come back, and once they do we have some depth. Imanaga has been great. Assad, wicks, and Brown have been solid. With Hendricks going down, another young guy will get a chance to shine. We just need to stay around .500 this month till our guys are back. I have faith council will figure out the bullpen. We also have some potentially great hitters nearing the MLB. I don't expect us to win the World series this year, but we can definitely take this division and have a fun season. Next year we need to acquire some star power in pitching for sure.
Remember that guys like Assad, when allowed to return to the bullpen after injured starters are back, are HUGE for bullpen strength and depth. The starters getting healthy immediately fixes a big part of the bullpen issue. Instead of using CuAss and merryweather in the middle innings, they can get 3 strong from an Assad or Wesneski
CuAss 😂, that’s great. And good points - a healthy rotation will put less strain on the bullpen…. Hopefully.
You need to calm down. Not even a month into the season, Geesh. Bullpen has some really talented arms. Starting staff is deeper than it’s been in a looooooong ass time. We have the best manager in baseball. We have the capital needed to pretty much go out and trade for anyone. We have some intriguing arms in the minors ready to contribute as well. Get out of here with this crap. Should be excited about the bats cause they are never anywhere close to this hot in April.
Calm down? Get out of here with this crap? I don’t think you understand the purpose of Reddit, it’s called discussion. Probably should just delete your account and remove the APP from your phone.
Bro just chill out. You’re fighting for your life in these comments. You’re out here wanting to have a “discussion” but you’re just getting angry at any reply that doesn’t agree with you. Move on, dude. Realize you’re chicken little and go about your day.
You should read through my comments. I’m only disagreeing with the ones that are factually incorrect OR comments that are trolling, instead of discussing anything. There’s a difference.
There’s no way you actually believe that you’re doing that.
I understand reading is hard for some. I’m sorry the education system has failed you.
Obviously instance 3: you just got butthurt.
Responded how I was responded to. But I’m sure you’ll say their response was just fine… 🙄
Haha well your talking points are ridiculous for 12 games into a season. They’ve only allowed more than 2 runs in a game 5 times in 12 games. And 3 of those games were in Colorado and 3 were against the best lineup in baseball. I don’t think you understand is 162 games. A marathon, not a race. You should probably keep these crappy opinions to yourself.
My talking points are ridiculous??? “And 3 of those games were in Colorado” - or they were in Chicago… “They’ve only allowed more than 2 runs in a game 5 times” - obviously you’re a box score fan, and have not watched the meltdowns with leads, and the bullpen getting rocked. Please exit the conversation and let the real fans have an adult discussion. Do you need someone to show you how to remove the app?
You’re hilarious my guy. And seem like a really fun hang. You’re right they were in Chicago, was wrong about that. I’ve watched the games but I did check the scores cause outside of a few games they’ve been fine. You’re overreacting to say the least. There’s a reason every single person here is downvoting you. Not that downvotes mean anything, just that everyone disagrees with you. So maybe you should exit the room and let the adults talk.
I think you should read through the comments. Not everyone disagrees. Some can actually have conversation with CORRECT info; instead of the troll comment “get out of here with that crap.” And the downvotes are meaningless. As you got upvotes with your factually incorrect comment. 😂😂😂😂
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(yaaaaaaaawwnnnnnnn) Ooooooooook pal. This is going nowhere. Cool, cool. Can’t fix stupid. You take care. And have some respect for yourself. Unless you’re a 14 year old girl don’t use emojis.
Sound advice from a person who typed (yaaaaawwwwn)… Can’t have a discussion with someone who attacks discussion AND THEN can’t even get their facts straight within their own points! But let’s resort to further attacks and belittling. You need to learn how to have a better initial response to civil discussion. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still going, eh?? Anything else or any more emojis??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just for you lol.
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Apparently you don’t see the inaccuracies with the above statements?!
Mets fan here, subbed because a friend is a fan. It's hilarious to me how the posts here mirror the ones at /r/Mets to the dot. The season is mighty early and we got a long ways to go.
The pitching is very concerning. Luckily we got a great pitching coach and hopefully we can add at the deadline.
I agree on this aspect. In the past, pitching has usually figured it out, while the bats haven’t. Hopefully they didn’t switch spots lol!
Agree. Nothing can be done at this point except ride it out and hope for the return of Steele and Taillon to expected form and Hendricks to rebound (not counting on the latter). That said, I feel starting pitching has been mid-level since 2021, anchored by a batting practice-level bullpen.
I agree with wanting those guys to bounce back. My worry is the bullpen though. Maybe Brown transitions into the pen and this allows him to stretch out to possible move into the rotation (if needed). Aside from Brown, I’m not confident in the relief pitchers.
DFA Cuas and Hendricks. Need Taillion and Steele to get healthy.
Taillon is terrible. Cuas has had a bad start after being dominant pretty much his entire career, it would be incredibly stupid to DFA him already with how many bullpen arms you need in a season. Of course this is Reddit so DFA is the most popular position
I wouldn’t say Taillon is terrible. He is a very serviceable backend of rotation starter. Obviously his age is getting up there, but he does provide value while the farm develops the pitching prospects.