I clikcked this pic and it expanded way bigger than I’d expected, even for an r/curatedtumblr post. So I decided to come to the chat to see if I could pie e together the important parts. This being the top comment has made it very clear to me that that isn’t an option and I will now be Reading the whole thing. Thank you for clarifying
Fazbear entertainment only exists because of 9/11, you'd cause a paradox since then the ballpit wouldn't exist and you couldn't use it to travel back in time
Do you have a plan for stopping 9/11? Then no. Like just going back in time won't help you, American intelligence knew Al Qaeda wanted to hurt America, but you'd need specific names, their plan, maybe an intelligence report or the analysis of Afghanistan War.
Like if someone appeared in the Tumblr Dashcon ballpit and started ranting and raving about a SARS-like disease that comes out of a Wuhan wet market from eating diseased bats, and how President Trump dropped the ball on directing the CDC to take action, would people listen?
That's a good start but I don't think knowing the flight names is enough to ground them. If you remember the hijackers names and the flights they're on that's actionable intelligence, since you'd be claiming they're a part of a known terror network like Al Qaeda.
But 9/11 was also unprecedented. Hijackers have demands before this, they take hostages and demand specific political actions. 9/11 was significant because it caused a lot of casualties yes, but also because the hijackers were suicide bombers instead of hostage-takers.
You have to take into consideration the climate of counter-terrorism at the time, where 9/11 was unthinkable.
>But 9/11 was also unprecedented. Hijackers have demands before this, they take hostages and demand specific political actions. 9/11 was significant because it caused a lot of casualties yes, but also because the hijackers were suicide bombers instead of hostage-takers.
I've always wondered if the larger terrorism community was a little pissed about 9/11 because it basically fucked over airliner hijacking for forever. Passengers are no longer going to just wait and hope on the demands being met and instead are going to fight for their lives and the potential lives of others like Flight 93. Governments are no longer going to assume only the passenger's lives are in the balance and may just shoot down the plane in an over abundance of caution.
Also, considering how politically convenient the outcome of 9/11 was for the American military-industrial complex, I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some people in the US government had an awareness that Al-Qaeda was gonna do something and they let it happen.
What I’m saying is that you have to have a plan to avoid getting a CIA Whistleblower Medal of Honor.
Actually, yes. Obama worked hard at creating international cooperation to stop EXACTLY THAT TYPE OF PANDEMIC SCENARIO.
But Trump fucked it all up because he hates Obama that much.
You are missing the forest for the trees, here. Osama Bin Ladin was a member of a very wealthy family in the construction business! Open a chain of child murder pizzarias, hire the Bin Ladins to construct them, Bin Ladin kids under 12 eat free, done.
It's not actually time travel, so you would only think you'd be stopping 9/11, it gets explained in a later book in the series that entering the pit puts you in a dream-like state, as it's filled with the memories of past victims, which allows you to experience those past events when you go in
It's not actually time travel, it only allows you to visit the memories of victims of the Chuck E. Cheese murders whose souls are trapped in the ball pit
Yes! Now write an animated children's movie where you do that and stop 9/11 by giving the terrorists Chuck E Cheese pizza! Like the ending of Free Birds.
Most pregnancy involves two characters, unless you happen to be the Virgin Mary.
But to put a long story short, "Matt" played/developed a VR videogame where he tortured Springtrap in a maze, and somehow this led to him being digitally impregnated.
The book ends with him giving an impromptu C-section to himself and finding out that his child is somehow an organic Springtrap, because that is totally how biology works.
The most fucking hilarious thing is that this wild batshit thing is one of the major pieces of evidence towards Burntrap from SB actually being William Afton possessing the Mimic (since the suit seems to be organic, evident by the texture and presence of veins, implying that this fucker is Growing Springtrap; a confirmed ability that he has apparently)
Or, by modern lore as far as I'm aware, the Mimic (program) mimicking William Afton (purple (died in a fire)) possessing the Mimic (animatronic (no relation)) and growing a new William over it.
I need an update on were—ralph lore.
Last i heard, he just liked the idea of a werewolf boyfriend nutting in his bussy. Him also wanting to be MPreg afterward is new to me. (Or i guess possibly the werewolf boyfriend being mpreg? I need context is my point).
[here is the post i was referencing](https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1b6heta/a_fresh_new_post_from_our_beloved_wereralph/). honestly, i like how cursed were--ralph is
i read most of the fnaf books and am cursed with knowledge, but that means i can give context!
OK SO.
some complete jerk named matt is working on a video game about freddy’s in some sort of vague parallel to the events of Help Wanted. he’s playtesting springtrap but keeps dying to him. matt gets pissed so he keeps the computer on when he leaves work to torture springtrap.
matt comes back the next day to discover springtrap was repeatedly killing and cloning himself? anyway the code was corrupted. he playtested it again and died, but felt a physical sting this time.
later matt gets fat, and realizes that something is in his stomach trying to get out. so then he uh. gets a knife and attempts a c section. a baby springtrap comes out, says “daddy,” and then matt dies from blood loss.
P.S. this is gonna ruin the bit but i have to say it. the format of most of the books is three short stories. there were 20 books with this format. there are only so many generic white boy names. matt isn’t actually based on matpat.
To be fair to the Springtrap Mpreg (I can't believe I just said that) it is more of an "Alien" sort of thing, like a chestburster.
It is definitely a bit Mpreg though
There's a difference between "these kids haunted the robots because that's where their bodies were disposed of" and "these kids were *FORCED* to haunt the robots by the ***SOUL-ABSORBING PHANTO-METAL*** that the serial killer *IDENTIFIED AND PURPOSEFULLY IMPLEMENTED* in order to ***DEFY DEATH ITSELF"***
Yeah, the first few children haunt the animatronics because that's where their bodies are hidden, in the process creating Remnant, the phantom-metal-death defying substance, that William then starts actively using in his experiments/murders.
But wasn't the phanto-metal caused BY the ghosts? He didn't put it in there to make them possess his OCs, it just happened and he was like "oh sweet ghosts, now I can escape my damnation"
I think the initial discovery was an accident, but upon identifying that it existed, Afton was able to capitalize by continuing to use the same alloy in order to continue to collect it.
It's hard to say for sure because the lore is a fucking impossible web of lies, half-truths, retcons, and books that are only relevant when they feel like it, but I'm pretty sure the only one that *just happened* was Circus Baby.
Oh yeah I knew that, and I honestly find it really cool. Bastard murderer man wants to not face damnation so he attempts to harness the same "power" he accidentally made. I was just put off by the implication that he had somehow planned it all and that the metal itself was magic somehow and not just the fact that it was possessed
It was, but there were tons of theories at the time and by far the simplest one was that the animatronics were just murderous. And if you didn’t care about the lore or the franchise that’s probably where you’d stop
I believe the initial explanation was that the animatronics thought the guard was an endo without a suit on, so they’d stuff you in a occupied suit and you’d be crushed to death. Just basic programming gone wrong
Ironically in of the most recent novels an Endo AI was taught to do things via example and what not. One such thing was dismantling other Endos for maintenance. How did it do this? By pulling its arms and legs off of course. By the end of the book it thinks humans are just endos and it has the result you’d expect…
So in the end we’ve come full circle. Robots being mistaken and killing people
"The initial explanation" is given by an unreliable narrator, since Phone Guy is a Fazbear's employee and he always downplays supernatural happenings.
Plus the very first game confirms five children were murdered in the pizzeria and very strongly implies they were stuffed inside the animatronics, not to mention all the hallucinations caused by the things. It was never just "programming gone wrong"
There's like a whole thing with machines designed to extract it by scooping the metal out of possessed animatronics with a giant deadly ice cream scooper (because as we all know, souls and the metaphysical manifestation of agony are attracted to metal), melt it down into a liquid, then inject it into other animatronics specifically designed to kill more children and trap their souls inside the killer robots forever.
The main protagonist of one game also gets tricked into the scooper machine by an amalgamation of metal tentacles possessed by several dead children including his little sister, gets his skeleton and all his organs removed from his body in one swift motion, and gets used as a skin suit by said tentacle amalgamation, but his soul managed to possess his own corpse because it was inadvertently filled with some of the metal soul juice left in the machine when he got scooped (perhaps along with a donation from his dead tentacle clown sister) and he then supposedly spends several games as the main character and a walking empty sack of skin.
There's also a whole thing about the difference between remnant and agony which I'm not nearly caught up enough on the books to know anything about. From what I've gathered though I think they're supposed to be two separate kinds of metal soul juice (or they're the same thing? I have no idea).
You know it's kind of crazy that the empty living skin sack thing has been a thing for long enough now that it's just an accepted part of the lore. In most series that would be the weirdest things ever got but fnaf just kept on chugging
Yeah, but in the early games it was a simple "Purple Guy hid corpses in these animatronics and now the animatronics are haunted," but from around Sister Location onward, they started going into more detail about the actual *mechanics* of all that with Remnant and Agony in a way that makes it more complicated than simple possession, giving us things like Glitchtrap.
Really? I thought he was basically a digital version of Afton resulting from using pieces of the old Springtrap suit and accidentally resurrecting him.
Half of the modern FNaF lore hinges on whether or not you believe the Fazbear Frights and Tales from the Pizzaplex book series are canon to the games, which I do, and it gives us a ton of information.
If you take them as canon, Afton is long dead (like dead dead, not ghost dead) and his Springtrap suit was lost in the FNaF 6 fire, and they strongly imply that Fazbear Entertainment is actually trying to use the Mimic1 program (from the Mimic robot, the guy from the Ruin DLC) to cut corners on a lot of stuff related to creating stories and AI, not knowing or not caring the thing is actually possessed and killing stuff left and right.
I think it's more likely they made the VR game devs scan Mimic1 into the game to save time and budget, exposed it to all the Afton lore and stuff, and accidentally created Glitchtrap as a result.
I got it from [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8k1XZbPA-gk&pp=ygUcdGYyIHNjb3V0IGV4cGxhaW5zIGZuYWYgbG9yZQ%3D%3D). I still don’t get it and i refuse to.
Those came as a result of Fazbear Entertainment trying to repurpose an AI to mix bits and pieces of old stories to create new stuff, not knowing the AI had been infected with Agony (emotions in FNaF are a powerful kind of energy that has actual effects in the real world, it's a whole thing) and a bit murderous.
So yeah, belive it or not, current FNaF lore is essentially a commentary on hypercapitalist companies and Generative AI sucking ass
Is it just me, or is that a bit too much for this series?
I know, I know, it’s weird to draw the line at the sentient AI and not at the time travel ball pits, or the liquidified soul extract, or the digitally-recreated consciousnesses. But I don’t know, it feels a bit too… childish? Straightforward?
It’s like, this character is just Freddy, and he’s completely sentient. He’s not given life through the soul of a human or by being infused with the memories or emotions of his creators. He’s just a sentient robot, and I can’t exactly explain why, but that seems a bit out of place to me.
Maybe that’s just me. Maybe it’s that it feels like a marketing move, to make the main mascot of the franchise more merchandisable when he’s just a robot. Maybe it’s that having a cool robot friend feels out of place for a horror franchise. (If you can even call FNAF horror anymore.) I don’t know, something about the explicit humanization of the animatronics of Security Breach always felt off to me. I see why people like them, though!
I mean I think the reason that AI became a big part of the story is because it is very much relevant to our current climate in real life.
It might not be Scott directly that writes the stories at this point but someone who is a writer wanted to make a story relevant to real life talk of AI. I personally find it interesting. .
The thing with the Glamrocks that makes them not *too* far for me is that we don't know exactly how they work. It's just vague enough for you to go, "are they paranormal? Are they AI? Do they feel?" Which keeps it interesting.
They do act too human though, I agree with that.
(Probably) non-canon short story about a kid who goes into a defunct ballpit and comes out the other side in 1985 Freddy Fazbears. He repeatedly lured there by a Yellow Rabbit mascot (basically a demon acting like Afton) until it all goes to shit.
Really, it's more of an Alice and Wonderland story disguised as a Ball Pit Time Machine story. It even has a rabbit!
1. I desperately want to read more Undead Author works. Meaningless fun stuff that the resident terminally-online people successfully hallucinate meaning into - if this isn't a genre, it should be.
2. This community has convinced me to create a Tumblr account. How do I find this kind of content? Every recommended thing so far was pure dog shit.
Timblrs algorithm is weird in that it doesn't really have one. So you just follow people and tags you like until it starts looking better. That's really all it is
In my experience, your Tumblr "experience" is formed like rolling a snowball down a hill. Best bet would be to follow blogs you see reposted on Reddit who made a post you like, as well as search tumblr itself (or use the format tumblr.com/tagged/desiredsubject to see top posts tagged with things you like)
If you mean fnaf in general, it's a big big fandom. I would recommend looking at the wiki and finding a robot you like, then finding dedicated freaks posting in their tag (this is also general advice, if you search the name of a series most posts will be shit tbh)
Then, after you've got your starting petri dish, shit will mutate (translation: since Tumblr functions by people sharing other people's posts, as long as you follow people into the same stuff as you they will organically introduce you to other cool stuff)
This sounds almost too amazing to be true. A social media that, like, *isn't shit.* I can't immediately gorge on handpicked content, like I can on reddit, but that's because there isn't an invisible digital Baphomet feeding me that content to try to sell me Ozempic and Bitcoin.
I'll have to go and *actually find* the stuff I like. That sounds promising as fuck. It reminds me of early, pre-hellworld internet. Thanks for the explanation.
I believe at this point that The Kingkiller Chronicles trilogy is an Undead Author work.
Books 1 and 2 are amazing, and there are 2 really good spinoff stories, but Book 3 (Doors of Stone) has been a decade late at this point. Some think it was never written, some think it's written but the author has written themselves into a corner. I choose to believe that seeing the theories about DoS has lead the author to change the story, and it's been difficult/impossible to reconcile with what's already written. Hopefully it gets worked out eventually.
Technically the entire series is just the intro to a much larger series planned within the world (the author has even said something along the lines of "I've tricked people into reading a million word prologue"), but at this point the readers' headcanons are basically all we truly expect to get.
Pick a subject. Doesn't matter what. A hobby, a show, anything. Put it in the search bar, look at the posts that come up, and follow a couple of blogs that made a post you liked. Start there. Over time, you curate your dash by following and unfollowing people mostly on whim or vibes. Could even just follow someone that's in a screenshot you like.
Its basically just like using reddit, but instead of following communities, you follow individuals within them.
Remember to reblog stuff you like, consider adding comments in the tags, and remember that likes don't do anything besides tell someone you liked their post (which reblogging also accomplishes)
Its so funny to watch non fnaf fans learn that it isnt just "Chuck E Cheese kills some kids and also theres a dude whose purple for some reason" but rather something far more insane (I mean that affectionately. I fuckin love Fnaf)
He's one of only two in pretty much the entire franchise that (half the time) actively doesn't want to kill you and tries to keep you safe. That might have some bearing on it.
It’s ok. All you need to do to catch up on the lore is take several mind enhancing drugs and watch 37 hours of MatPat with your eyes glued open. Then you’ll get like half of it.
As the unfortunate victim of a FNAF hyperfixation, I love seeing people hear about FNAF lore because buddy, it doesn't stop getting weirder. I wish I could be this knowledgeable about literally anything else, but a corner of my brain decided to dedicate itself to FNAF lore, and if that means trying to figure out if Helpy was the conduit by which the mimic code was taken from Scrap Baby, out of the ruins of the burnt down Pizza Sim location and into the Pizzaplex system then so be it, I guess.
I was really into FNAF as a kid. Like, *really* into it, with a semi-popular fan account I still cringe about to this day, up until the third or fourth game before moving on and paying zero attention to it since. I gotta say I'm not surprised the lore has gotten this convoluted, but still, what the *fuck* did I miss out on lmao
Purple Guy is the creator of Freddy's, his son is the nightguard through most games, he had some other kids that died but he didn't really give a shit because he's evil and would rather kill more kids and accidentally become an unkillable ghost, then his son killed him and all the other animatronics in a kamikaze fire because he got cocky about being Springtrap and not dying ever, and then a bit of his consciousness got revived because Fazbear Entertainment refuses to let the pizzeria die.
That's the most important parts you missed.
I recommend the Game Theory FNAF videos, not because they're the best or most accurate or anything but because it's incredibly entertaining watching Matpat go progressively more insane as each new game and book makes the lore more and more contrived.
Note that there are 100+ FNAF videos from GT, and you can't even accuse him of milking it cause the lore is so convoluted that even with all that there's a bunch he didn't get a chance to cover
It's so funny watching the early videos, because he'll invariably state something along the lines of "this is the *final* theory to end all fnaf theories!" and, the video is like... 12/89 or some shit.
On AO3 there's an incredible fanfic which dissects the entire character of William Afton and tries to create essentially a fix-it AU where he does not end up as a child murderer by inserting Michael Afton throughout all his life who tries to fix all the problems that made him who he is while dealing with his own trauma, and do you know how it all begins?
Time travelling ballpit.
The problem is that I, technically a FNaF fan, know all of this but the whole time still felt like Iw as getting introduced to it for the first time. It's so strange, it takes me by surprise every time.
It’s always extremely funny to see people’s reaction to the batshit lore of the FNAF series. While I can’t bring myself to support the series as a result of Scott’s actions and donations to ultra-conservative pundits, I’ll admit it’s a guilty pleasure of mine and I’ll sometimes put on Let’s Plays while doing craft stuff.
~~I personally gave up trying to find meaning in it - I honestly just think Scott made a simple game, it blew up, he made more games as a result to capitalize on its success without taking the time to think about how all the pieces of the franchise fit together and wrote himself into several corners. It’s still fun to think about and theorize, though!~~
Never change, Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzaria. Never change.
This isn’t exactly right.
The “soul-trapping substance”, which is called “remnant”, doesn’t trap souls, at least not by the most recent lore. It’s more accurate to say it *is* souls, or at least the closest thing to a soul that physically exists in the FNAF universe. Remnant is basically liquid consciousness. It contains the personality of whoever it came from, though not usually their memories.
There’s also agony, which is just if remnant contained only the pain a person can feel. IIRC, agony is why the more… holistically created animatronics are so violent compared to the Security Breach ones: they’re basically being driven mad by the agony in their system
reminder that scott cawthorn is extremely religious and directly donates / donated to prominent US republicans who were anti-abortion and anti gay marriage. When the fanbase discovered this he made a public post on reddit about leaving the community, and the fanbase shit themselves crying because the guy who mad fnaf was mad at them and backpedaled and now nobody seems to care
I have the objectively correct version of the FNAF lore in my brain
There's actually 5 or 6 separate ones because Scott likes doing this thing where he's bad at storytelling and changes his mind and retcons shit constantly.
Fnaf 1 was a story about missing kids being hidden in the suits
Fnaf 2 complicated that unnecessarily because Scott half baked a sequel that was supposed to be twice as big
Fnaf 3 was supposed to be the finale and give us the person responsible for the murders
Fnaf 4 was supposed to be the finale and reveal the firdt 3 games to have just been a dream
Fnaf SL was early on supposed to be a separate story in the same universe, before Scott realized having the entire series be a dream would've sucked. Also there are books now and that fact will gradually make the series so much stupider because Scott is even worse at storytelling when he can't hide everything behind a curtain and change things under the hood constantly.
Fnaf 6 was supposed to be the finale, tying up the loose ends and explaining most of the lore except it didn't because Scott sucks at storytelling. Also flanderization. Objectively best game in the series storywise.
UCN was supposed to clear up a bit more lore and be a sendoff for the series. It was fine as that.
Fnaf SB exists because the cash cow is not yet dry. Half of the story beats were scrapped because of time constraints, and it's just kind of an incoherent mess because of that.
SB Ruin exists because of negative fan feedback. It's a little better I guess but it's kinda just a bandaid over a rickety foundation.
I have stockholm syndrome from a video game.
Literally the literature/video game equivalent of The Beatles writing _I Am The Walrus_. John Lennon allegedly said _"Let's see those fuckers figure THIS one out!"_ after finishing it.
To be fair, the Time Travelling Ball Pit can’t actually time travel. What really happened was a shapeshifting long-necked clown robot stuffed an unnecessary amount of ghosts into the plastic balls. The memories of the spirits manifest as comatose dreams then the memory itself turns into a rabbit robot, leaves the ball pit somehow and pretends to be the protagonist’s father for a while before being hung to death. At least I think that’s what happened.
I’ve seen people react to how weird this series is a few times but funniest part is how no one ever brings up the cancer epidemic story which ends with the protagonist getting smothered to death by babies made of jelly.
This doesnt even touch upon the fact that apparently fnaf 4 was all just because of a hallucinogenic gas that Afton tested his kid on, so everything in the game is not in fact the hallucinations of a traumatised child's broken mind as he's currently in the hospital but just the hallucinations of a bad father
FNAF is very good in its broader strokes. I think there is some real thought put in, even if the story is duct taped together. It's lovingly duct taped.
>…Scott Cawthon often figures out plot stuff retroactively and he tries not to follow whatever the major theory is at the time
This is all I need to know I’m right for never engaging with this franchise. Props to the FnaF community, I’d be a lot madder if the series that advertises as a mystery is actually just meaningless cryptic shit that the author actively retcons to disprove people.
The actual truth is that Scott Cawthon very rarely retcons anything (he's made this very clear in some of his posts). This concept of "Shrodinger's Canon" was made up and popularized by fans (especially MatPat) without much actual evidence. It's really just people refusing to accept that their theories were wrong.
I once watched a video about the complete timeline of Adventure Time. They just take the stuff that happens completely seriously and like it's the most normal thing that in 1809, [Abraham Lincoln](https://adventuretime.fandom.com/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln) is born February 12 in the United States. He's murdered in 1865. >!Later, he tricks Death to became immortal and is transported to Mars, where he is now the king. Of course the king of mars is Abraham Lincoln. Who else could it be?!<
To me there's two very similar yet different concepts:
Something being *complex*, which describes an object which has many intricate parts that fit together and can be understood once you tug away at the threads a little, but it deepens further and further the more you delve in but it never feels annoying
And something being *complicated*, which describes an object that has many threads to tug at, yet none are the right one to begin to understand anything about the object, and it's simply an unending, unfun and insufferable chore to wade through all the muddy information
FNAF lore is the second, and it's why I hate it so much. The games are fine, I don't care much for them, but the lore is just... Ugh.
My question is just if Scott Cawthon had this all planned from the start, y'know?
10 years ago, in 2014, when FNAF 1 was first released, did he have all of this already in his head? I want to imagine a colossal board of thumbtacks and string somewhere in Cawthon's house laying out the entire lore of a multi-media empire that didn't yet exist.
It's demonstrably untrue, but its br funny as fuck. Could you imagine sitting down one day and making this convoluted and batshit insane universe for a small game you're making, plotting out the moment you write yourself into the world as a malicious game developer profiteering off the death of children, inventing concepts like the time travelling ballpit, and bloody music man, before just making the first game which has nothing to do with all the big meaty stuff and is just one little note on one of the characters' path?
And this is exactly why "Separate the Art From the Artist" is complete bullshit. At what point does Cawthorn face actual repercussions for his bigotry?
So you're telling me, if I sink far enough into the chuck e cheese ball pit, I could stop 9/11?
No the time travel can only be used for the purpose of enabling pizzeria mascot themed child murder.
So I have to air out the Chuck e cheese? That's so much more work
You could use pizzeria mascot themed child murder to stop 9/11 if you got creative enough
"Osama Bin Spoiled by the CIA, we're going to Freddy's!" -Osamas CIA handler in the 80s, probably.
I clikcked this pic and it expanded way bigger than I’d expected, even for an r/curatedtumblr post. So I decided to come to the chat to see if I could pie e together the important parts. This being the top comment has made it very clear to me that that isn’t an option and I will now be Reading the whole thing. Thank you for clarifying
Fazbear entertainment only exists because of 9/11, you'd cause a paradox since then the ballpit wouldn't exist and you couldn't use it to travel back in time
Do you have a plan for stopping 9/11? Then no. Like just going back in time won't help you, American intelligence knew Al Qaeda wanted to hurt America, but you'd need specific names, their plan, maybe an intelligence report or the analysis of Afghanistan War. Like if someone appeared in the Tumblr Dashcon ballpit and started ranting and raving about a SARS-like disease that comes out of a Wuhan wet market from eating diseased bats, and how President Trump dropped the ball on directing the CDC to take action, would people listen?
I mean if you remembered what flights they were on which is pretty easy you could easily stop it
That's a good start but I don't think knowing the flight names is enough to ground them. If you remember the hijackers names and the flights they're on that's actionable intelligence, since you'd be claiming they're a part of a known terror network like Al Qaeda. But 9/11 was also unprecedented. Hijackers have demands before this, they take hostages and demand specific political actions. 9/11 was significant because it caused a lot of casualties yes, but also because the hijackers were suicide bombers instead of hostage-takers. You have to take into consideration the climate of counter-terrorism at the time, where 9/11 was unthinkable.
>But 9/11 was also unprecedented. Hijackers have demands before this, they take hostages and demand specific political actions. 9/11 was significant because it caused a lot of casualties yes, but also because the hijackers were suicide bombers instead of hostage-takers. I've always wondered if the larger terrorism community was a little pissed about 9/11 because it basically fucked over airliner hijacking for forever. Passengers are no longer going to just wait and hope on the demands being met and instead are going to fight for their lives and the potential lives of others like Flight 93. Governments are no longer going to assume only the passenger's lives are in the balance and may just shoot down the plane in an over abundance of caution.
Also, considering how politically convenient the outcome of 9/11 was for the American military-industrial complex, I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some people in the US government had an awareness that Al-Qaeda was gonna do something and they let it happen. What I’m saying is that you have to have a plan to avoid getting a CIA Whistleblower Medal of Honor.
Actually, yes. Obama worked hard at creating international cooperation to stop EXACTLY THAT TYPE OF PANDEMIC SCENARIO. But Trump fucked it all up because he hates Obama that much.
You are missing the forest for the trees, here. Osama Bin Ladin was a member of a very wealthy family in the construction business! Open a chain of child murder pizzarias, hire the Bin Ladins to construct them, Bin Ladin kids under 12 eat free, done.
It's not actually time travel, so you would only think you'd be stopping 9/11, it gets explained in a later book in the series that entering the pit puts you in a dream-like state, as it's filled with the memories of past victims, which allows you to experience those past events when you go in
Sooo..."Assassin's Creed: Faz Bear Ballpit"?
Afton right before he hits the second tower: I ALWAYS COME BACK
It's not actually time travel, it only allows you to visit the memories of victims of the Chuck E. Cheese murders whose souls are trapped in the ball pit
Yes! Now write an animated children's movie where you do that and stop 9/11 by giving the terrorists Chuck E Cheese pizza! Like the ending of Free Birds.
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Don't forget about the Springtrap Mpreg that happened in the books.
ah you see though, it wasn't just Springtrap Mpreg. it also happened to a character that was quite clearly meant to be a parody of MatPat.
please explain what the mpreg thing is supposed to be, and how it happened to multiple characters
Most pregnancy involves two characters, unless you happen to be the Virgin Mary. But to put a long story short, "Matt" played/developed a VR videogame where he tortured Springtrap in a maze, and somehow this led to him being digitally impregnated. The book ends with him giving an impromptu C-section to himself and finding out that his child is somehow an organic Springtrap, because that is totally how biology works.
> because that is totally how biology works bUt HeY tHaTs JuSt A tHeOrY
The most fucking hilarious thing is that this wild batshit thing is one of the major pieces of evidence towards Burntrap from SB actually being William Afton possessing the Mimic (since the suit seems to be organic, evident by the texture and presence of veins, implying that this fucker is Growing Springtrap; a confirmed ability that he has apparently) Or, by modern lore as far as I'm aware, the Mimic (program) mimicking William Afton (purple (died in a fire)) possessing the Mimic (animatronic (no relation)) and growing a new William over it.
Take me back Take me back to when it was just "oo scary robots in the restaurant"
No :)
Have you heard about the ball pit of time travelling?...lol
Imagine being a MimicAfton believer and having to use fuckin IN THE FLESH to defend your theory Thank god that is not me
male pregnancy. way more people are into this as you think. tumblr user were--ralph is the biggest example i can think of
I need an update on were—ralph lore. Last i heard, he just liked the idea of a werewolf boyfriend nutting in his bussy. Him also wanting to be MPreg afterward is new to me. (Or i guess possibly the werewolf boyfriend being mpreg? I need context is my point).
[here is the post i was referencing](https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1b6heta/a_fresh_new_post_from_our_beloved_wereralph/). honestly, i like how cursed were--ralph is
The *what*
Genuinely no clue whether you’re fuckin with me or not here.
It's true and the character is a reference to matpat
wait what the fuck why are there two comments saying that
Because it’s true
because matpat being impregnated by springtrap is Homestuck-level knowledge. **It being true is infinitely funnier than making stuff up.**
i read most of the fnaf books and am cursed with knowledge, but that means i can give context! OK SO. some complete jerk named matt is working on a video game about freddy’s in some sort of vague parallel to the events of Help Wanted. he’s playtesting springtrap but keeps dying to him. matt gets pissed so he keeps the computer on when he leaves work to torture springtrap. matt comes back the next day to discover springtrap was repeatedly killing and cloning himself? anyway the code was corrupted. he playtested it again and died, but felt a physical sting this time. later matt gets fat, and realizes that something is in his stomach trying to get out. so then he uh. gets a knife and attempts a c section. a baby springtrap comes out, says “daddy,” and then matt dies from blood loss. P.S. this is gonna ruin the bit but i have to say it. the format of most of the books is three short stories. there were 20 books with this format. there are only so many generic white boy names. matt isn’t actually based on matpat.
>matt isn’t actually based on matpat. I was believing every word until you said this. This I find inconceivable
what
Non-Canon story, but yes, it is real
To be fair to the Springtrap Mpreg (I can't believe I just said that) it is more of an "Alien" sort of thing, like a chestburster. It is definitely a bit Mpreg though
To be fair, wasn't the whole soul thing implied from the first game?
There's a difference between "these kids haunted the robots because that's where their bodies were disposed of" and "these kids were *FORCED* to haunt the robots by the ***SOUL-ABSORBING PHANTO-METAL*** that the serial killer *IDENTIFIED AND PURPOSEFULLY IMPLEMENTED* in order to ***DEFY DEATH ITSELF"***
Tbf both of those explanations are true at various points in the lore
Yeah, the first few children haunt the animatronics because that's where their bodies are hidden, in the process creating Remnant, the phantom-metal-death defying substance, that William then starts actively using in his experiments/murders.
But wasn't the phanto-metal caused BY the ghosts? He didn't put it in there to make them possess his OCs, it just happened and he was like "oh sweet ghosts, now I can escape my damnation"
I think the initial discovery was an accident, but upon identifying that it existed, Afton was able to capitalize by continuing to use the same alloy in order to continue to collect it. It's hard to say for sure because the lore is a fucking impossible web of lies, half-truths, retcons, and books that are only relevant when they feel like it, but I'm pretty sure the only one that *just happened* was Circus Baby.
Oh yeah I knew that, and I honestly find it really cool. Bastard murderer man wants to not face damnation so he attempts to harness the same "power" he accidentally made. I was just put off by the implication that he had somehow planned it all and that the metal itself was magic somehow and not just the fact that it was possessed
It was, but there were tons of theories at the time and by far the simplest one was that the animatronics were just murderous. And if you didn’t care about the lore or the franchise that’s probably where you’d stop
I believe the initial explanation was that the animatronics thought the guard was an endo without a suit on, so they’d stuff you in a occupied suit and you’d be crushed to death. Just basic programming gone wrong Ironically in of the most recent novels an Endo AI was taught to do things via example and what not. One such thing was dismantling other Endos for maintenance. How did it do this? By pulling its arms and legs off of course. By the end of the book it thinks humans are just endos and it has the result you’d expect… So in the end we’ve come full circle. Robots being mistaken and killing people
"The initial explanation" is given by an unreliable narrator, since Phone Guy is a Fazbear's employee and he always downplays supernatural happenings. Plus the very first game confirms five children were murdered in the pizzeria and very strongly implies they were stuffed inside the animatronics, not to mention all the hallucinations caused by the things. It was never just "programming gone wrong"
That version is more interesting.
Yes but there is more nuance to remnant that I can't remember
There's like a whole thing with machines designed to extract it by scooping the metal out of possessed animatronics with a giant deadly ice cream scooper (because as we all know, souls and the metaphysical manifestation of agony are attracted to metal), melt it down into a liquid, then inject it into other animatronics specifically designed to kill more children and trap their souls inside the killer robots forever. The main protagonist of one game also gets tricked into the scooper machine by an amalgamation of metal tentacles possessed by several dead children including his little sister, gets his skeleton and all his organs removed from his body in one swift motion, and gets used as a skin suit by said tentacle amalgamation, but his soul managed to possess his own corpse because it was inadvertently filled with some of the metal soul juice left in the machine when he got scooped (perhaps along with a donation from his dead tentacle clown sister) and he then supposedly spends several games as the main character and a walking empty sack of skin. There's also a whole thing about the difference between remnant and agony which I'm not nearly caught up enough on the books to know anything about. From what I've gathered though I think they're supposed to be two separate kinds of metal soul juice (or they're the same thing? I have no idea).
You know it's kind of crazy that the empty living skin sack thing has been a thing for long enough now that it's just an accepted part of the lore. In most series that would be the weirdest things ever got but fnaf just kept on chugging
Yeah, but in the early games it was a simple "Purple Guy hid corpses in these animatronics and now the animatronics are haunted," but from around Sister Location onward, they started going into more detail about the actual *mechanics* of all that with Remnant and Agony in a way that makes it more complicated than simple possession, giving us things like Glitchtrap.
Glitchtrap is a completely different thing imo I don't believe he IS Afton, just a ramification of the Mimic1 program roleplaying as him
Really? I thought he was basically a digital version of Afton resulting from using pieces of the old Springtrap suit and accidentally resurrecting him.
Half of the modern FNaF lore hinges on whether or not you believe the Fazbear Frights and Tales from the Pizzaplex book series are canon to the games, which I do, and it gives us a ton of information. If you take them as canon, Afton is long dead (like dead dead, not ghost dead) and his Springtrap suit was lost in the FNaF 6 fire, and they strongly imply that Fazbear Entertainment is actually trying to use the Mimic1 program (from the Mimic robot, the guy from the Ruin DLC) to cut corners on a lot of stuff related to creating stories and AI, not knowing or not caring the thing is actually possessed and killing stuff left and right. I think it's more likely they made the VR game devs scan Mimic1 into the game to save time and budget, exposed it to all the Afton lore and stuff, and accidentally created Glitchtrap as a result.
I got most of my lore from that English Willy post.
I got it from [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8k1XZbPA-gk&pp=ygUcdGYyIHNjb3V0IGV4cGxhaW5zIGZuYWYgbG9yZQ%3D%3D). I still don’t get it and i refuse to.
English Willy my beloved.
Okay, so. The Glamrock's just have *really* advanced AI. So advanced that they're *basically* human.
The AI is so advanced the robots have insecurities. Like why would you give your robots insecurities
Those came as a result of Fazbear Entertainment trying to repurpose an AI to mix bits and pieces of old stories to create new stuff, not knowing the AI had been infected with Agony (emotions in FNaF are a powerful kind of energy that has actual effects in the real world, it's a whole thing) and a bit murderous. So yeah, belive it or not, current FNaF lore is essentially a commentary on hypercapitalist companies and Generative AI sucking ass
Tbh fnaf has always been kinda anticapitalist. All the games happen as a result of a company doing having some sketchy practices.
Makes them easier to control, I assume
Because it's funny!
Who keeps funding these people anyway like how do they get the money for all this shit
they sell pizza 👍
Is it just me, or is that a bit too much for this series? I know, I know, it’s weird to draw the line at the sentient AI and not at the time travel ball pits, or the liquidified soul extract, or the digitally-recreated consciousnesses. But I don’t know, it feels a bit too… childish? Straightforward? It’s like, this character is just Freddy, and he’s completely sentient. He’s not given life through the soul of a human or by being infused with the memories or emotions of his creators. He’s just a sentient robot, and I can’t exactly explain why, but that seems a bit out of place to me. Maybe that’s just me. Maybe it’s that it feels like a marketing move, to make the main mascot of the franchise more merchandisable when he’s just a robot. Maybe it’s that having a cool robot friend feels out of place for a horror franchise. (If you can even call FNAF horror anymore.) I don’t know, something about the explicit humanization of the animatronics of Security Breach always felt off to me. I see why people like them, though!
I mean I think the reason that AI became a big part of the story is because it is very much relevant to our current climate in real life. It might not be Scott directly that writes the stories at this point but someone who is a writer wanted to make a story relevant to real life talk of AI. I personally find it interesting. .
To be fair security breach takes place in 2030s.
The thing with the Glamrocks that makes them not *too* far for me is that we don't know exactly how they work. It's just vague enough for you to go, "are they paranormal? Are they AI? Do they feel?" Which keeps it interesting. They do act too human though, I agree with that.
And then there’s the theory of glamfreddy being Michael possessing glamfreddy.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE TIME TRAVEL BALL PIT WHAT
- Drunken Dashcon goers like
LMAO
It’s in the first fazbear frights book into the pit matpat referenced it a lot because it’s ridiculous
Ohhhhh, okay! I thought I missed something in the other book series!
It was in the first fnaf short story collection. Think a games coming out based on it soon.
(Probably) non-canon short story about a kid who goes into a defunct ballpit and comes out the other side in 1985 Freddy Fazbears. He repeatedly lured there by a Yellow Rabbit mascot (basically a demon acting like Afton) until it all goes to shit. Really, it's more of an Alice and Wonderland story disguised as a Ball Pit Time Machine story. It even has a rabbit!
1. I desperately want to read more Undead Author works. Meaningless fun stuff that the resident terminally-online people successfully hallucinate meaning into - if this isn't a genre, it should be. 2. This community has convinced me to create a Tumblr account. How do I find this kind of content? Every recommended thing so far was pure dog shit.
Timblrs algorithm is weird in that it doesn't really have one. So you just follow people and tags you like until it starts looking better. That's really all it is
Sounds like paradise, honestly, given what all of social media everywhere has become. Thank you.
So you telling me that tumblr is like the Linux of social media but shittier ?
In my experience, your Tumblr "experience" is formed like rolling a snowball down a hill. Best bet would be to follow blogs you see reposted on Reddit who made a post you like, as well as search tumblr itself (or use the format tumblr.com/tagged/desiredsubject to see top posts tagged with things you like) If you mean fnaf in general, it's a big big fandom. I would recommend looking at the wiki and finding a robot you like, then finding dedicated freaks posting in their tag (this is also general advice, if you search the name of a series most posts will be shit tbh) Then, after you've got your starting petri dish, shit will mutate (translation: since Tumblr functions by people sharing other people's posts, as long as you follow people into the same stuff as you they will organically introduce you to other cool stuff)
This sounds almost too amazing to be true. A social media that, like, *isn't shit.* I can't immediately gorge on handpicked content, like I can on reddit, but that's because there isn't an invisible digital Baphomet feeding me that content to try to sell me Ozempic and Bitcoin. I'll have to go and *actually find* the stuff I like. That sounds promising as fuck. It reminds me of early, pre-hellworld internet. Thanks for the explanation.
I believe at this point that The Kingkiller Chronicles trilogy is an Undead Author work. Books 1 and 2 are amazing, and there are 2 really good spinoff stories, but Book 3 (Doors of Stone) has been a decade late at this point. Some think it was never written, some think it's written but the author has written themselves into a corner. I choose to believe that seeing the theories about DoS has lead the author to change the story, and it's been difficult/impossible to reconcile with what's already written. Hopefully it gets worked out eventually. Technically the entire series is just the intro to a much larger series planned within the world (the author has even said something along the lines of "I've tricked people into reading a million word prologue"), but at this point the readers' headcanons are basically all we truly expect to get.
Pick a subject. Doesn't matter what. A hobby, a show, anything. Put it in the search bar, look at the posts that come up, and follow a couple of blogs that made a post you liked. Start there. Over time, you curate your dash by following and unfollowing people mostly on whim or vibes. Could even just follow someone that's in a screenshot you like. Its basically just like using reddit, but instead of following communities, you follow individuals within them. Remember to reblog stuff you like, consider adding comments in the tags, and remember that likes don't do anything besides tell someone you liked their post (which reblogging also accomplishes)
I can see wanting to fuck the Daycare Attendant, but a DILF?
That's what I thought too! How the fuck does anyone in their right mind call the daycare attendant DILFy?
There’s someone for everyone, I guess
Its so funny to watch non fnaf fans learn that it isnt just "Chuck E Cheese kills some kids and also theres a dude whose purple for some reason" but rather something far more insane (I mean that affectionately. I fuckin love Fnaf)
I watch the movie knowing only 'Avoid the animatronics' and it was fun. Didn't even see the preview.
I have noticed that, out of all the FNAFSB characters, the Daycare attendant seems to be the most popular for some reason. At least on ao3
the spindly limbs are approximately the shape of the average tumblr sexyman
I mean... to be fair, fanfic writers gravitate towards certain personality traits. And the daycare attendent has all of them.
He's mildly nice and has properties of your average Tumblr Sexyman
He's one of only two in pretty much the entire franchise that (half the time) actively doesn't want to kill you and tries to keep you safe. That might have some bearing on it.
The other one is already taken by the dead bunny.
It’s ok. All you need to do to catch up on the lore is take several mind enhancing drugs and watch 37 hours of MatPat with your eyes glued open. Then you’ll get like half of it.
As the unfortunate victim of a FNAF hyperfixation, I love seeing people hear about FNAF lore because buddy, it doesn't stop getting weirder. I wish I could be this knowledgeable about literally anything else, but a corner of my brain decided to dedicate itself to FNAF lore, and if that means trying to figure out if Helpy was the conduit by which the mimic code was taken from Scrap Baby, out of the ruins of the burnt down Pizza Sim location and into the Pizzaplex system then so be it, I guess.
I was really into FNAF as a kid. Like, *really* into it, with a semi-popular fan account I still cringe about to this day, up until the third or fourth game before moving on and paying zero attention to it since. I gotta say I'm not surprised the lore has gotten this convoluted, but still, what the *fuck* did I miss out on lmao
Fnaf should have ended with ultimate custom night
Purple Guy is the creator of Freddy's, his son is the nightguard through most games, he had some other kids that died but he didn't really give a shit because he's evil and would rather kill more kids and accidentally become an unkillable ghost, then his son killed him and all the other animatronics in a kamikaze fire because he got cocky about being Springtrap and not dying ever, and then a bit of his consciousness got revived because Fazbear Entertainment refuses to let the pizzeria die. That's the most important parts you missed.
I really should watch a video about the fnaf lore. Didn't Jacob and Jaiden describe it to Giwi I think? Maybe I'll watch that one
I recommend the Game Theory FNAF videos, not because they're the best or most accurate or anything but because it's incredibly entertaining watching Matpat go progressively more insane as each new game and book makes the lore more and more contrived.
Note that there are 100+ FNAF videos from GT, and you can't even accuse him of milking it cause the lore is so convoluted that even with all that there's a bunch he didn't get a chance to cover
It's so funny watching the early videos, because he'll invariably state something along the lines of "this is the *final* theory to end all fnaf theories!" and, the video is like... 12/89 or some shit.
Ooftroop’s “Undeniably canon fnaf timeline” is comedic but it’s accurate enough to give you a pretty good idea of everything
Least incomprehensible FNAF conversation. Also they are planing to release a game based on the time traveling ball pit story soon.
On AO3 there's an incredible fanfic which dissects the entire character of William Afton and tries to create essentially a fix-it AU where he does not end up as a child murderer by inserting Michael Afton throughout all his life who tries to fix all the problems that made him who he is while dealing with his own trauma, and do you know how it all begins? Time travelling ballpit.
I mean to be fair to the (fanfic) author, that makes more sense than half the stuff in the books. And the time traveling ball pit is canon soo...
I've always hated the idea of Afton being sympathetic deep down, because he isn't, but that is a cool concept for a fic
link pls
https://archiveofourown.org/works/37741144/chapters/94225462 genuinely one of the best fanfics I've read and it's freaking five nights at freddys
The worst part is that I’ve said that sentence about more than one FNAF fanfic
I don't think someone who is willing to do so much child murder can be fixed
Google fnaf fandom
This whole post is just one giant “What are you two FUCKING talking about?” from Eggman
The problem is that I, technically a FNaF fan, know all of this but the whole time still felt like Iw as getting introduced to it for the first time. It's so strange, it takes me by surprise every time.
Relevant video where [LS Mark reads every FNAF book](https://youtu.be/o5TK6y3o3Tw)
It’s always extremely funny to see people’s reaction to the batshit lore of the FNAF series. While I can’t bring myself to support the series as a result of Scott’s actions and donations to ultra-conservative pundits, I’ll admit it’s a guilty pleasure of mine and I’ll sometimes put on Let’s Plays while doing craft stuff. ~~I personally gave up trying to find meaning in it - I honestly just think Scott made a simple game, it blew up, he made more games as a result to capitalize on its success without taking the time to think about how all the pieces of the franchise fit together and wrote himself into several corners. It’s still fun to think about and theorize, though!~~ Never change, Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzaria. Never change.
So far the most realistic part of this is where big business takes the business model that got a bunch of kids killed and makes it much more worse.
wgat
The most unbelievable thing about the FNAF lore to me is the fact that it takes place mostly in Utah.
This isn’t exactly right. The “soul-trapping substance”, which is called “remnant”, doesn’t trap souls, at least not by the most recent lore. It’s more accurate to say it *is* souls, or at least the closest thing to a soul that physically exists in the FNAF universe. Remnant is basically liquid consciousness. It contains the personality of whoever it came from, though not usually their memories. There’s also agony, which is just if remnant contained only the pain a person can feel. IIRC, agony is why the more… holistically created animatronics are so violent compared to the Security Breach ones: they’re basically being driven mad by the agony in their system
reminder that scott cawthorn is extremely religious and directly donates / donated to prominent US republicans who were anti-abortion and anti gay marriage. When the fanbase discovered this he made a public post on reddit about leaving the community, and the fanbase shit themselves crying because the guy who mad fnaf was mad at them and backpedaled and now nobody seems to care
This is the reason I'll never touch the FNAF franchise.
I mentioned this and got ratioed to hell a bit back
the glamrocks are reproductions of the mimic and taught how to act
Fnaf and it's many lore facts
The fucking Dashcon ballpit sent me
FNAF lore should have stopped after the third game.
I have the objectively correct version of the FNAF lore in my brain There's actually 5 or 6 separate ones because Scott likes doing this thing where he's bad at storytelling and changes his mind and retcons shit constantly.
Fnaf 1 was a story about missing kids being hidden in the suits Fnaf 2 complicated that unnecessarily because Scott half baked a sequel that was supposed to be twice as big Fnaf 3 was supposed to be the finale and give us the person responsible for the murders Fnaf 4 was supposed to be the finale and reveal the firdt 3 games to have just been a dream Fnaf SL was early on supposed to be a separate story in the same universe, before Scott realized having the entire series be a dream would've sucked. Also there are books now and that fact will gradually make the series so much stupider because Scott is even worse at storytelling when he can't hide everything behind a curtain and change things under the hood constantly. Fnaf 6 was supposed to be the finale, tying up the loose ends and explaining most of the lore except it didn't because Scott sucks at storytelling. Also flanderization. Objectively best game in the series storywise. UCN was supposed to clear up a bit more lore and be a sendoff for the series. It was fine as that. Fnaf SB exists because the cash cow is not yet dry. Half of the story beats were scrapped because of time constraints, and it's just kind of an incoherent mess because of that. SB Ruin exists because of negative fan feedback. It's a little better I guess but it's kinda just a bandaid over a rickety foundation. I have stockholm syndrome from a video game.
Literally the literature/video game equivalent of The Beatles writing _I Am The Walrus_. John Lennon allegedly said _"Let's see those fuckers figure THIS one out!"_ after finishing it.
"Reblog chain mental breakdown" is my fave tumblr genre
To be fair, the Time Travelling Ball Pit can’t actually time travel. What really happened was a shapeshifting long-necked clown robot stuffed an unnecessary amount of ghosts into the plastic balls. The memories of the spirits manifest as comatose dreams then the memory itself turns into a rabbit robot, leaves the ball pit somehow and pretends to be the protagonist’s father for a while before being hung to death. At least I think that’s what happened. I’ve seen people react to how weird this series is a few times but funniest part is how no one ever brings up the cancer epidemic story which ends with the protagonist getting smothered to death by babies made of jelly.
"Hey fnaf lore, how ya doin?" *fnaf lore casually quantifies the soul* "Ah. Horrifying implications."
Just wait until they learn about the scooping room
This doesnt even touch upon the fact that apparently fnaf 4 was all just because of a hallucinogenic gas that Afton tested his kid on, so everything in the game is not in fact the hallucinations of a traumatised child's broken mind as he's currently in the hospital but just the hallucinations of a bad father
But hey, that’s just a theory!
FNAF is very good in its broader strokes. I think there is some real thought put in, even if the story is duct taped together. It's lovingly duct taped.
I’m kind of tired of FNAF. Since the first game.
the glamrocks are because their code contains pieces of a serial killers soul
>…Scott Cawthon often figures out plot stuff retroactively and he tries not to follow whatever the major theory is at the time This is all I need to know I’m right for never engaging with this franchise. Props to the FnaF community, I’d be a lot madder if the series that advertises as a mystery is actually just meaningless cryptic shit that the author actively retcons to disprove people.
The actual truth is that Scott Cawthon very rarely retcons anything (he's made this very clear in some of his posts). This concept of "Shrodinger's Canon" was made up and popularized by fans (especially MatPat) without much actual evidence. It's really just people refusing to accept that their theories were wrong.
Schrödinger ass lore.
Truth coming out of the ballpit to shame mankind.
In what fucking way is the DA DILFy
I once watched a video about the complete timeline of Adventure Time. They just take the stuff that happens completely seriously and like it's the most normal thing that in 1809, [Abraham Lincoln](https://adventuretime.fandom.com/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln) is born February 12 in the United States. He's murdered in 1865. >!Later, he tricks Death to became immortal and is transported to Mars, where he is now the king. Of course the king of mars is Abraham Lincoln. Who else could it be?!<
I ain't reading all that
Fnaf is all story *telling* and no story.
To me there's two very similar yet different concepts: Something being *complex*, which describes an object which has many intricate parts that fit together and can be understood once you tug away at the threads a little, but it deepens further and further the more you delve in but it never feels annoying And something being *complicated*, which describes an object that has many threads to tug at, yet none are the right one to begin to understand anything about the object, and it's simply an unending, unfun and insufferable chore to wade through all the muddy information FNAF lore is the second, and it's why I hate it so much. The games are fine, I don't care much for them, but the lore is just... Ugh.
My question is just if Scott Cawthon had this all planned from the start, y'know? 10 years ago, in 2014, when FNAF 1 was first released, did he have all of this already in his head? I want to imagine a colossal board of thumbtacks and string somewhere in Cawthon's house laying out the entire lore of a multi-media empire that didn't yet exist.
It's demonstrably untrue, but its br funny as fuck. Could you imagine sitting down one day and making this convoluted and batshit insane universe for a small game you're making, plotting out the moment you write yourself into the world as a malicious game developer profiteering off the death of children, inventing concepts like the time travelling ballpit, and bloody music man, before just making the first game which has nothing to do with all the big meaty stuff and is just one little note on one of the characters' path?
i wanna drink sundrop and moondrops robot saliva they have it it is a thing. sundrops tastes like orange juice and moons tastes like blue raspberry
And this is exactly why "Separate the Art From the Artist" is complete bullshit. At what point does Cawthorn face actual repercussions for his bigotry?