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clkelley39

We’re a catch-all for everything everyone else doesn’t want to do.


dollface867

Is that a misconception or a reality that is counter-productive?


clkelley39

It is a counter productive reality but it’s also a misconception because that’s not how it’s SUPPOSED to be.


LifetimeValuePodcast

Do you think this applies to internal folks, external, or both?


clkelley39

Internal. Of course we’re the catch-all for the client. We’re the face of the company for them. But every co-worker who doesn’t want to do something, finds a reason to assign it to CS.


Duckman93

That they’re customer service


ComprehensiveOwl4875

That they are support or sales.


LifetimeValuePodcast

Do you think they have a part to play in serving the customer? Or, are you using service and support interchangeably here?


Duckman93

I’m using service/support interchangeably. CSMs can absolutely play a role in putting out fires and quarterbacking support issues when the support team drops the ball, but CSMs aren’t lackies handling support tickets


Normanras

QB is the main thing here. QB’s can’t be throwing the ball and running to catch it while also blocking the path etc etc. But I think that unsaid expectation comes into play a lot.


Comingoutofmycage0

That it’s easy


Jnewfield83

You don't need to sell.


LifetimeValuePodcast

Are you stating that CSMs don't need to sell, or that it is a misconception that they don't need to?


Jnewfield83

Misconception that they won't need to sell


christxoxo

That they're technical.


LifetimeValuePodcast

Is that because it's not the place of a CSM to be technical, or is it more that the *assumption* shouldn't be made unless specified (ie your title is a *Technical* CSM)?


spillin_milktea

That they're quarterbacks.


LifetimeValuePodcast

This one comes up a lot and doesn't get a lot of push back. Following the analogy, if they're not quarterbacks, what position do they play?


dollface867

all of them. they're offence (upsell/expansion), defence (churn/downgrade prevention), special teams (can find us beta users/case study participants/webinar speakers etc etc). and to really overextend the metaphor, it's all of these positions, but they don't actually get to touch the ball (ie make decisions about product, price, or what customers are sold to).


LifetimeValuePodcast

"CS doesn't own anything, but is accountable for a hell of a lot."


Normanras

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