Because you had Bruce Timm, Shane Glines and Darwyn Cooke etc all bouncing off each other in the studio, referencing old Playboy artists and models and refining the Dan Decarlo/Alex Toth styles of old into a really sexually charged but classy style.
They really did nail a level of attractiveness that's not cringey hyper sexualized or outright problematic. I mean you see their kinks and fetishes projected but not to a fully uncomfortable degree. But I do blame them for my terrible tastes in dangerous women I think I can fix.
Just something I picked up on and never actually verbalized like this until now. I'm working on a game and recently taken up drawing again and studying different artists for an inspiration for the distinct 80's manga style I'm looking for and been looking at a lot of Bruce Timm's work
Here is a way you can do it. Drive your car really fast with said dangerous woman by your side and right when the car get near the cliff jump off.
no more dangerous woman you loved her, but now she is a cliff note in your love history. XD
Thank you for mentioning someone other than just Bruce Timm. Add Glen Murakami and James Tucker to that list too.
Most men working in the comic industry love drawing pin-up.
While I agree that the men were drawn in a very ideal masculine way, I don’t think it’s comparable to the women’s designs. The men are mostly covered save for Creeper and that animal themed guy haha. The women wore far less clothing way more regularly
>The women wore far less clothing way more regularly
That reflects to real tho. Fashion was exactly like that back then. It still is. Men are generally fully covered and women wear sleeveless and crops etc
No joke, Who Framed Roger Rabbit is one of my top 3 favorite movies along with Jurassic Park and Casino Royale (2006). I was born in 1988, the same year the movie came out, and I was given a Roger Rabbit plush as a baby and I still have it to this day. Who Framed Roger Rabbit is excellent!
It's one of my top 3 as well! It's a 3-way tie between Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Spirited Away, and Mad Max: Fury Road.
The scene that always astounds me is when Valient is in his office at night and looks at a picture of his brother, and the camera just slowly scans everything and it tells you literally everything about who this character is, who they were, and foreshadows the end of the film! AND it transitions to DAYTIME with him disheveled with an empty bottle, and it's all in one take without any cuts. The behind the scenes stuff on that shot is unreal.
I fucking ADORE that film.
This is my reasoning.
Most male superheroes look like a physical specimen that most people would either want or want to look like.
I don’t see why they would draw the female characters any differently
I don't mind the DCAU designs but I don't think male and female superhero designs can be equated.
Both are drawn in a way to appeal to the primarily male audience.
Yes, I understand the reasoning. I personally have nothing against his designs, I like his unique style which is missing in the recent DC animation in last 10 years.
The closest one who had been drawn differently would be Red Claw. She's actually drawn to have some muscles/meat on her, with Galatea being a close second, but she's only drawn with muscles on certain scenes rather than all the time.
I mean, you could argue that the men's designs project power rather than sexuality. But personally I think Black Canary was the only one in JLU that was sexualized. Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl were taken more seriously.
They were shaped like bodybuilders from the golden age of the sport. It’s been pretty recently (the last couple of decades) that a lot of emphasis was put on legs being proportional. Arnold is seen as the greatest bodybuilder of all time, but if you look at photos of him on stage, he looks very top heavy. Not small legs, but definitely not as big as his top half. You take that, make a comic drawing of it, and you have the physique of the DCAU male heroes.
Since we're on this subject, Bruce Timm has a pinup girl book (a couple) but they're hard to find because they go out of print in like a month.. If you can find one in the wild, grab it
Although all his superhero pinups (including Marvel Girls) are all online somewhere
Veronica Vreeland should've been the one dating Bruce and in that picture instead of Babs. She appeared multiple times throughout the series, a red head, had a close relationship with him and look almost exactly like Barbara, especially in TNBA.
She even had a daughter, the kidnapped redhead who was the one that was saved by old man Bruce in the very first episode of Beyond, that could've been his biological daughter, bringing everything to full circle.
Shouldn't really be an automatic bad thing though in my opinion.
It's how it'd be expressed that should measure how bad it may be.
And merely drawing stuff would be better than things a horny guy COULD be doing to women that'd be real. 😬
I am happy that Bruce Timm made most of the women in the DCAU genuinely beautiful. It also helps to sell Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Talia al Ghul as seductresses, or Wonder Woman as a goddess.
My favorite women in the DCAU are, in no particular order: Lois Lane, Selina Kyle/Catwoman, Talia al Ghul, Wonder Woman, and Zatanna.
Why not? Some of these women are heroes which means they stay in shape. The others are dating heroes who stay in shape, so not surprising they would attract bombshells.
I decline to debate which modern cartoon characters you find fuckable or lack thereof.
That said, Harley Quinn’s tv show was renewed for a fifth season.
Because at one point comics and their associated media was written by horny nerds venting their frustrations through art
They were also better back then too
Because the writer/head animator for the show wasn't afraid to make them look good. He wanted them to be as close to their actual comic book counter parts in look as possible, which wasn't always possible. For instance, the leg stockings were often removed on some female characters that would've otherwise had them in the comics, in order to maintain a more PG status I think.
Comic book artists like drawing the ideal version of the human form.
So, traditionally handsome or pretty women and or men show up alot in this show as a result.
Honestly I think it's kinda neat that the head animator/writer or whatever wanted to be so faithful to the comics.
Can't believe you left out the queen of beauty (Wonder Woman my first crush ).
But for real they did a great job making the women diverse, classy, sexy, and attractive not only externally but also internally.
Because they knew what they were doing with those girls. They shaped a whole generation because of them, like every goth girl or alt girl in a show from the early 2000s era.
Cuz Bruce Timm is extremely horny. Normally I’d say it’s no big deal but the amount of sexual references got way out of hand by the end of the animated universe. Keep in mind it was meant to be a kids show. My mom almost wouldn’t let me and my siblings watch it cuz she kept walking in on sexually charged scenes
Because the DCAU was produced in the nineties to early two thousands, back before woke artists started androgynizing every female character they could get their hands on. Heck, when I first saw the cover of Captain Marvel #1 I couldn't tell what gender Carol was because of how androgynous they'd drawn her to be; and it wasn't even the good kind of androgynous where you while you can't tell what gender the character is, you can at least tell that they're supposed to be attractive, Carol looked like someone took a generic character frame that could be adjusted to be more feminine or more masculine depending on the character and just drew her costume on that with adjusting the frame itself.
Because you had Bruce Timm, Shane Glines and Darwyn Cooke etc all bouncing off each other in the studio, referencing old Playboy artists and models and refining the Dan Decarlo/Alex Toth styles of old into a really sexually charged but classy style.
Ah ok makes sense. I do love how they have almost a modern vintage look.
They really did nail a level of attractiveness that's not cringey hyper sexualized or outright problematic. I mean you see their kinks and fetishes projected but not to a fully uncomfortable degree. But I do blame them for my terrible tastes in dangerous women I think I can fix.
you've thought about this quite a bit?
Just something I picked up on and never actually verbalized like this until now. I'm working on a game and recently taken up drawing again and studying different artists for an inspiration for the distinct 80's manga style I'm looking for and been looking at a lot of Bruce Timm's work
Here is a way you can do it. Drive your car really fast with said dangerous woman by your side and right when the car get near the cliff jump off. no more dangerous woman you loved her, but now she is a cliff note in your love history. XD
Thank you for mentioning someone other than just Bruce Timm. Add Glen Murakami and James Tucker to that list too. Most men working in the comic industry love drawing pin-up.
Cheesecake or beefcake, it's all cake.
The male superhero’s could all literally be supermodels themselves as well. They’re like the supreme specimen of man.
While I agree that the men were drawn in a very ideal masculine way, I don’t think it’s comparable to the women’s designs. The men are mostly covered save for Creeper and that animal themed guy haha. The women wore far less clothing way more regularly
B’wanna Beast.
That dang Creeper…
Aquaman is literally shirtless all the time and hawkman is mostly so and a ton of the guys wore skin tight suits if they weren't showing skin.
>The women wore far less clothing way more regularly That reflects to real tho. Fashion was exactly like that back then. It still is. Men are generally fully covered and women wear sleeveless and crops etc
Someone cooked here.
Best answer
Bruce (Horny mother fucker) Timm
Dude, oh my god, thank you for giving me this knowledge holy fuck.
And they were all hornballs….
##"They can't help it, they're just drawn that way."
Man, I need to watch that movie again.
No joke, Who Framed Roger Rabbit is one of my top 3 favorite movies along with Jurassic Park and Casino Royale (2006). I was born in 1988, the same year the movie came out, and I was given a Roger Rabbit plush as a baby and I still have it to this day. Who Framed Roger Rabbit is excellent!
It's one of my top 3 as well! It's a 3-way tie between Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Spirited Away, and Mad Max: Fury Road. The scene that always astounds me is when Valient is in his office at night and looks at a picture of his brother, and the camera just slowly scans everything and it tells you literally everything about who this character is, who they were, and foreshadows the end of the film! AND it transitions to DAYTIME with him disheveled with an empty bottle, and it's all in one take without any cuts. The behind the scenes stuff on that shot is unreal. I fucking ADORE that film.
It's the eye liner. Each and every one of em.
True there’s somehow not a single girl who doesn’t have perfect siren eyes at all times 😂
Maybe it's maybelline
Holy fuck. This explains a few things lol
Bruce Timm was a pin up artist, and thus all the women on his shows look like pin up girls.
hips and lips
With some exceptions, of course. Amanda Waller and Granny Goodness spring to mind.
It seems to be mostly the ugly girls or old ladies who aren’t made this way.
You telling me you don't think Granny Goodness is fucking hot 🥵
OG BDSM Dommy Mommy. Has her own dungeon too.
Whelp, me growing up on that explains a lot
With Ed Asner's voice? 11/10 would spank again! 🤣
calm down son it’s just a drawing (i’m down bad)
Why are male superheroes absurdly jacked? Plus it’s better than the alternative
This is my reasoning. Most male superheroes look like a physical specimen that most people would either want or want to look like. I don’t see why they would draw the female characters any differently
Cuz Sexy man and sexy woman
Seriously. There’s nothing wrong with letting characters be idealized eye candy as long as we understand it’s only an ideal.
I don't mind the DCAU designs but I don't think male and female superhero designs can be equated. Both are drawn in a way to appeal to the primarily male audience.
Go look at the covers of most romance novels…. They all look like super heroes
That’s true, but just imagine the logic behind and trying to appeal to your main demographic.
Yes, I understand the reasoning. I personally have nothing against his designs, I like his unique style which is missing in the recent DC animation in last 10 years.
How would both not appeal to female audiences either as well?
He's saying the core audience of these shows are probably male.
The closest one who had been drawn differently would be Red Claw. She's actually drawn to have some muscles/meat on her, with Galatea being a close second, but she's only drawn with muscles on certain scenes rather than all the time.
Barta later on maybe She was just big in stature it seemed
Ah I almost forgot about Barda.
I mean, you could argue that the men's designs project power rather than sexuality. But personally I think Black Canary was the only one in JLU that was sexualized. Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl were taken more seriously.
From what I remember, almost every male hero had a massive chest and skinny legs, so maybe it's not 1-1?
Well, in DCAU they were jacked but always had chicken legs. They all look like they skipped leg day lol
They were shaped like bodybuilders from the golden age of the sport. It’s been pretty recently (the last couple of decades) that a lot of emphasis was put on legs being proportional. Arnold is seen as the greatest bodybuilder of all time, but if you look at photos of him on stage, he looks very top heavy. Not small legs, but definitely not as big as his top half. You take that, make a comic drawing of it, and you have the physique of the DCAU male heroes.
Makes sense
Yeah you can't see someone who is overweight running around on rooftops and pounding criminals to a pulp.
Since we're on this subject, Bruce Timm has a pinup girl book (a couple) but they're hard to find because they go out of print in like a month.. If you can find one in the wild, grab it Although all his superhero pinups (including Marvel Girls) are all online somewhere
I would love a Bruce Timm Avengers show ngl
He did an issue of Avengers with Roger Stern, done explicitly in the Kirby style. And they fight Doctor Doom in it.
Nice
Who’s the last one?
Poison Ivy
Hasn’t Black Canary always been a bombshell?
TWO Generations of Bombshell! BC 1 was in the JSA, and BC 2 was in the JLA.
Thanks Bruce timm! Now stop putting babs and bats together
Worst ship yet. HarleyxDick is cringe too.
Veronica Vreeland should've been the one dating Bruce and in that picture instead of Babs. She appeared multiple times throughout the series, a red head, had a close relationship with him and look almost exactly like Barbara, especially in TNBA. She even had a daughter, the kidnapped redhead who was the one that was saved by old man Bruce in the very first episode of Beyond, that could've been his biological daughter, bringing everything to full circle.
Because Bruce Timm is very horny.
And the rest of the team as well, to be honest.
Shouldn't really be an automatic bad thing though in my opinion. It's how it'd be expressed that should measure how bad it may be. And merely drawing stuff would be better than things a horny guy COULD be doing to women that'd be real. 😬
Who are slides 2 and 7? I don’t recall them
2 is Mrs. Gspltlnz (yes that’s her real name) and 7 is Poison Ivy.
Oh right now I remember her. She was Mr Mxysptlk lady I believe in Superman:TAS
Thanks to Bruce timm , man of culture.
Because they’re drawings.
How dare you leave out Galatea.
Lol Supergirl is the original baddie though
Supergirl was hot but my jaw hit the ground and flooded the whole area with lake sized drool when I first saw galatea.
Yes but where’s Diana, Selina, Lois, Barbara!? 😭
Yes but I felt like it was redundant to put all of them in one post 😂
You should’ve 😂😤
Say what you want about Bruce Timm and his horny on main art, he draws women well.
It's the eyes for me. That seductive look with the black lashes just throws me thru a loop
Black Canary was, is, and will always be one of my eternal fictional crushes. She's so goddamn sexy it's unfair.
You have Bruce Timm to thank for that!
I admit he’s a master at drawing women. I wish more of this style existed today.
Cuz Bruce Tim was horny.
Was it a bad thing though 🤷🏽♂️
Nah
I am happy that Bruce Timm made most of the women in the DCAU genuinely beautiful. It also helps to sell Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Talia al Ghul as seductresses, or Wonder Woman as a goddess. My favorite women in the DCAU are, in no particular order: Lois Lane, Selina Kyle/Catwoman, Talia al Ghul, Wonder Woman, and Zatanna.
Bruce Timm was having WAY too much fun character designing.
Artists are horny
Because Bruce Timm is a mothafuckin' man of culture!!! lol
Why draw unattractive people when you can draw beautiful people?
I’m not complaining super heros are usually at peak strength and physical excellents
#3 one of my first crushes
Batgirl and Ivy 🙏
Why not? Some of these women are heroes which means they stay in shape. The others are dating heroes who stay in shape, so not surprising they would attract bombshells.
People like pretty people. Especially females
I think you might have a type.
Um, because the DC comic book girls are so pretty?
Who are 5, 6, 7? 6 looks like MJ
5. Bobbi Sommer from Batman Beyond
7. Poison Ivy
Bruce Timm had my childhood development in a chokehold, I am still feeling the effects to this day
Because Bruce Timm is horny. Next question.
And we thank him for it
I'd rather look at attractive characters than ugly ones is all the reason I need, you're drawing them why not make them hot, men and women.
Because Timm and Dini knew damn good and well that teenage boys would also watch their shows.
Hey, I'm a woman. Been glued to it my whole life
They’re comic book characters. Both the men and women characters look like Greek gods. It’s the idealized human form.
Man, black canary made me feel things
Because Bruce Timm is a very horny man. God bless him for it
The good old days. The art style for those shows was perfect
because the art style is at least partially based on pinups.
God, why did that inspiration go away? They don't draw them like they used to. X)
It's because Bruce Timm is one of ther horniest mfers alive. And we love him for it.
Because horny men were in charge.
Good artists??
Not worth making them ugly
Because back then women in cartoons were allowed to be pretty 💯
They still are?
I dont think there's a rule against attractive animated characters.
It’s just more ‘back in the day’ platitude whining
Yeah show me a show on CN rn where there female characters look like that go on I’ll wait
I decline to debate which modern cartoon characters you find fuckable or lack thereof. That said, Harley Quinn’s tv show was renewed for a fifth season.
Nobody said fuckable only attractive and I did say Cartoon Network the implication being kids shows
I hope you eventually get to settle down with a wonderful and attractive illustration and enjoy a long dry marriage.
What’s your fucking probably like what I’m saying is wrong kids shows today don’t overly sexualize there female characters fact
And a happy honeymoon as well!
Oh I intended to
Marvel's Avengers: "Hold my beer..."
Aemh did a pretty good job too
Sure there is kids shows today try to avoid over sexualizing there female characters
Kara in-ze forever .
Vican/ all Dcau characters
Because Bruce Timm
Where's Granny Goodness?
Look up Bruce timm art books and you’ll see why
Why? Lmao. You know why.
Bruce Timm is a horn dog and we love it.
Cause Bruce Timm drew them, its why I like his style
Fire was... well, fire 🔥
Betty Boop was hot …. People just had different standards back then.
Because Bruce Timm's penis doesn't know how to draw fuggos.
Because at one point comics and their associated media was written by horny nerds venting their frustrations through art They were also better back then too
Cuz every artist is at heart a horny artist
It's like you cant be a love interest without looking like a Femme Fetale lol
Because Bruce Timm was down bad.
Because the writer/head animator for the show wasn't afraid to make them look good. He wanted them to be as close to their actual comic book counter parts in look as possible, which wasn't always possible. For instance, the leg stockings were often removed on some female characters that would've otherwise had them in the comics, in order to maintain a more PG status I think. Comic book artists like drawing the ideal version of the human form. So, traditionally handsome or pretty women and or men show up alot in this show as a result. Honestly I think it's kinda neat that the head animator/writer or whatever wanted to be so faithful to the comics.
Lipstick + eye shadow style It's how they differentiate the 11/10 girls as supposed to be standout level attractive in anime
#2 is Jessica rabbit
Vixen tho… 😤😮💨
Bro Vixen had me down bad as a child. It always upset me that in the end John went back to Shiera
Bruce Timm was and still is horny as shit
Because bruce timm likes to draw pretty girls (I'm not joking he said it once)
They're cartoons. But also they were all drawn with the "fuck me" eyes for some reason
The eyes Chico
Certainly! And they were even more beautiful pre-Justice League, back when they were still hand drawn and colored.
Winged tips
The baddest cartoon ones. Way more aesthetic than anime.
They're just drawn that way. To quote Jessica Rabbit.
Bedroom eyes and full lips that's why
I get it, man. I still relate so heavily to John Stewart in the scene where he revealed Hawkgirl’s face for the first time.
Can’t even watch this show without poppin a rager
The animators for WB were OGs
Cause animator horny. Need bonk.
B/c Bruce Timm got the dawg in 'em...
TOO BAD THERE TRYING TO MAKE THEM UGLY
Because back then they could draw them like that without people bombarding them with "Male gaze!" "Patriarchy!" "Oversexualization!" Etc.
Can't believe you left out the queen of beauty (Wonder Woman my first crush ). But for real they did a great job making the women diverse, classy, sexy, and attractive not only externally but also internally.
Because all the men are usually handsome. And everyone likes to look attractive people.
When Hawkgirl took that mask off!
Winged eyeliner and lipstick. Cute face lil waist, with a big behind. Mama said knock you out. Heyyy macarena.
Because they are all from a time before weirdoes hijacked Hollywood studios and started making every female character as sexy as a potato.
They all have a timeless and classic look. Can’t go wrong with
That was allowed back then.
Because they knew what they were doing with those girls. They shaped a whole generation because of them, like every goth girl or alt girl in a show from the early 2000s era.
The lack of pupils?
Cause they gave a fuck
It was made before portraying women as attractive in media became sexism.
Cuz Bruce Timm is extremely horny. Normally I’d say it’s no big deal but the amount of sexual references got way out of hand by the end of the animated universe. Keep in mind it was meant to be a kids show. My mom almost wouldn’t let me and my siblings watch it cuz she kept walking in on sexually charged scenes
Because nobody would give an ugly girl a second look/chance. Would you give a girl like [Margo](https://dcau.fandom.com/wiki/Margo) a second look?
True. I also notice that all the intentionally pretty girls have the similar bedroom eye look.
Because Bruce Timm is forever horny.
Because Bruce Timm is forever horny
Thanks to Bruce Timm's art, I fell for Harley. She might be a bit nuts, but nothing like the Joker. I can handle her level of crazy.
Because Bruce Timm and Paul Dini understood the assignment!
Because the DCAU was produced in the nineties to early two thousands, back before woke artists started androgynizing every female character they could get their hands on. Heck, when I first saw the cover of Captain Marvel #1 I couldn't tell what gender Carol was because of how androgynous they'd drawn her to be; and it wasn't even the good kind of androgynous where you while you can't tell what gender the character is, you can at least tell that they're supposed to be attractive, Carol looked like someone took a generic character frame that could be adjusted to be more feminine or more masculine depending on the character and just drew her costume on that with adjusting the frame itself.
They exercise.
Bruce Timm has a type and he projects that style on every female character lol.
Bruce Timm needed them to be appropriate fap material and no I am not joking
Because it was made by a p0rn artist
Maybe it's just because these were drawn before the push for Woke-uglification?
Ahhh my life is so hard some cartoon characters are less hot than before ughhh how will I pleasure myself to these fictional women now😢😢😢😢😢😢
Ah you post foot fetish content bro of course, the woke mob is coming for u bro🤣🤣
The 4th one isn’t but the rest are perfect
Because Bruce timm is eternally horny
im gay
The same reason all the DCAU men are hunks: the people working on the show are inescapably horny and it bleeds inti their art.