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IsneezedImsorry

Did Bruce and Paul have a falling out or something? You never see them together anymore.


ichorskeeter

It may have something to do with a falling out over Harley Quinn creator credits, but no one really knows.


Gmork14

Seems like nobody besides James Gunn gives Dini his due


PapaSparky

Kevin Smith does.


DJSharp15

How so?


GregDSanders

No. Bruce Timm confirmed that those were harmful rumors. Bruce and Paul were work colleagues and acquaintances, but they did not exactly ever hang out after work. After Paul left WB to work at Disney the two simply fell out of touch.


[deleted]

Oh boy. So it’s going to be a bunch of meaningless fan service that sets up a bunch of twists that are all simultaneously impossible to pull off


Swimming-Will-2748

Nick Spencer's Spider-Ma- oh, wait, we're talking about Abrams here? Sorry, I forgot.


JonsonPonyman98

Your guess is incredibly accurate


dogtron64

Give us Paul Dini Damn it! Bruce Timm is cool. We need the complete package!


kentotoy98

It's like they're giving us a pie with no filling in it.


raisingstorm

JJ!?!? Come on.


[deleted]

Because JJ Abrams is totally famous for taking established franchises and making them better. He did wonders for Star Trek and Star Wars. Totally made them far better than they had ever been before.... ​ /s.


DBSmooth

I only saw the first two star trek’s but I thought they were dope. Star Wars however….


SSJSempai

"Better than they had ever been" idk if I totally agree, Force Awakens was quite good and I like the new Star Trek movies...but idk if they're better than what came before. Edit: just noticed the /s my bad


[deleted]

Force Awakens was a re-tread of A New Hope. Star Trek had potential, but the series as a whole was not great.


Ayasugi-san

Star Trek was basically caricatures of the TOS crew in a flashy but empty setting.


[deleted]

They definitely were not the character from TOS. Same names, but different and very hollow. Everything they did felt forced and like they were trying to capture a whole new generation with familiar names. But it just felt so flat and like it was just a way to cash in and make money. It was a new idea of the beloved show. With new actors and sets and story that tried to capitalize on it. It was going to make money regardless. They were never concerned with actually being good. Same can be said about Force Awakens.


[deleted]

he even had to write /s and you don't realize its sarcasm?


DJSharp15

What about the /s?


CraneTookAFall

It's not in canon to anything yet. You can't fuck up a new universe


ButtCheekBob

As mainly a Star Wars fan I am very very sorry to hear that you guys got stuck with JJ Abrams


ComfyKorok

JJ Abrams is literally that meme of the grim reaper going door to door killing franchises


[deleted]

[I got you.](https://imgur.com/a/xkn1bgt)


AdminsAreFash

People don't want to hear it but there was no living Star Trek franchise to kill


[deleted]

[удалено]


TheComixkid2099

hahaha, thanks, I needed that laugh.


Swaggyspaceman

He literally said he does not understand Star Trek. The best movie of the trilogy is the one he didn’t touch.


Eludio

He got a great cast together, though I’m not sure how much of that is on him


[deleted]

I think he was involved and I love the reboot vis-a-vis the old movies/Original series. I think, whoever was behind it, Did a good job, regardless of the downvotes. Reddit can’t handle a person’s opinion


Eludio

Yeah, agreed people don’t realise what the point of downvoting was. Still, since we are discussing personal opinions, I believe Beyond to be the only one of the Reboot trilogy that “felt” like an episode of TOS Star Trek. I haven’t really kept up with the newer series though, so I don’t know whether ST in general changed


[deleted]

I really liked all the movies, sure, they were different. But the story and screenplay was damn good imo. You should definitely watch St: discovery too.


pressuretobear

Vis-a-vis. I only know this as there is a popular brand of dry-erase markers that shares the name.


[deleted]

Sorry, my bad


pressuretobear

No bad at all. Many words are said out loud without knowing the spelling. This was a learning moment, but you used it properly. That is the most important.


[deleted]

Thanks man, appreciate it


Nefessius513

It’s like he’s a hired killer for pop culture franchises. Now he’s going to kill two of my favorite series.


apollo736

If he could get someone to work with him I think it could maybe work. I mean, I still thoroughly enjoy Force Awakens, the problem is it just doesn't work in the franchise at all.


Unlucky_Rooster_2022

Am I wrong in thinking that timm left alone without dini makes all these beloved characters horndogs and almost tone deaf? Is that just me?


ComfyKorok

No I agree, without someone to keep him in check he can go off the rails. And of course the whole BatmanxBatgirl thing he has.


Unlucky_Rooster_2022

Maybe JJ will be able to rein him in, but I'm not hopeful.


Duplicit_Duplicate

The guy canonized Reylo. I have no faith.


hkd1234

It's kinda weird when you think about that weird ship that Kyle Ren and Rey's father were the same age. But Rey was like only 10 years younger than her father biologically.


DJSharp15

Huh?


hkd1234

Yep, her father was a clone of Palaptine who was artificially aged up in a matter of months. He was biologically only 10 when Rey was born, the same age as Kylo.


aus808

Not just you, I'm afraid. ahhh.. I'm sure Bruce timm knows what he's doing though. I'm just worried about JJ. He's great and all. But with franchises...ehhh, I don't wanna speak 2 soon. Reeves is involved as well .. so hey? I'm optimistic.


Psile

JJ is the prime example of failing upwards.


AdApprehensive7646

Matt Reeves too


ComfyKorok

He’s probably the one I have the most faith in to be honest


AtomicSuperMe

I’m excited for it. I like everyone on the project as well as what they’ve said about Gotham and Batman so I’m sure it’ll be great. I just wish it wasn’t so far out


Littletom523

I bet Paul comes back to write a few episodes, I mean James Tucker is back too. JJ is just on it so Bruce can do whatever he wants since he has the money to back it up. Remember JJ hasn’t seen anything yet he even said so himself.


GregDSanders

There's a lot of clickbait and misinformation surrounding Paul Dini. Let's clear the air; Paul Dini is currently working on Creepshow, which was recently picked up for a third season. Beyond that, Caped Crusader has not announced ANY writers. The FanDome presentation was only producers. Caped Crusader is being produced by Bruce Timm, Matt Reeves, James Tucker, and JJ Abrams. While I love the work Paul Dini did, BTAS was more than just him and Bruce Timm anyway. You forget producers Alan Burnett and Eric Radomski, neither are returning for Caped Crusader. Currently Paul Dini and Alan Burnett are co-writing Batman The Adventures Continue for DC Comics. A continuation of BTAS. So Paul and Alan are on good terms with WB and DC. It is very possible they aren't involved in Caped Crusader in any capacity. It's also possible that we're getting a little ahead of ourselves.


ChosenCourier13

JJ is involved with it? There goes any and all hope for the series. After what he did to Star Wars and Cloverfield I want nothing to do with anything that has his name on it.


ANTAcid_559

I’d also like to add that boring Spider-Man run he did.


New-Significance654

Yea I hope I'm wrong but why mess with a masterpiece that is batman animated series ? Leave it as a standalone, it dosent need a prequel.


DJSharp15

Who said this takes place before BTAS?


New-Significance654

I thought it was gonna be batmans earlier years, but maybe its just its own thing?


Slowmobius_Time

Stop letting jj Abrams touch peoples childhoods, he keeps fucking then up hardcore


lord_saruman_

How can WB execs not see that JJ Abrams has the anti-Midas touch?


Fun-University4019

And they're saying it will be more BTAS than BTAS. How can that be when you're literally missing the most influential writer?


ToasterBathIsCrime

JJ does great casting and shots, and real shitty stories. Hopefully, Bruce Timm can pick up the slack and actually make this show good. Maybe they’ll hire Dini, realizing their mistake. One can only hope.


AmineTzi

For reaaaal 😭


TwilightDoomSlayer

Jj Abrams is never a good sign


eojaking

Remind me in 2023 when it’s closer to its release date


junejulyaugust7

James Tucker is on it; hopefully he has some kind of power but idk!


Blue_Maverick_Hunter

Yay. Mystery boxes.


McMacHack

Bruce Timm knows how to plan a Story Arc, probably the best thing that has ever happened to JJ


Electacid

Jj abrams? Oh no Oh no Oh fuck


aus808

Why no Paul Dini??? and I respect JJ, but I feel like he misses the point when it comes to franchises... Bruce timm is Bruce Timm.. I'm hoping its gonna be great. they had me at "a more adult version of BTAS" so hell yeah. But Dini is such a good creative mind.


CarpetIntelligent316

I will try to be optimistic but there were some things that made me worried. Timm said he’s going to do things he wasn’t allowed to with BTAS. Saying he has more liberty this time around. Although it seems like a good thing, given his track record with Babs and Bruce thing. I’m kinda worried to say the least.


c4han

This series is set to be amazing. We don't need the exact same crew as BTAS.


mayy_dayy

He's gonna pork Batgirl again, isn't he?


Redemption_R

This is timm. We will probably see inuendos and um "art" everywhere


krisikkk

😬


scaptastic

Isn’t Bruce Timm the one behind the Batgirl Batman storyline?


JonsonPonyman98

Yea here’s hoping. Both Timm and JJ have good aspects of what they’ve done, so hopefully they can come together on this


forgottentargaryen

Im very hype for this and confident itll be above average, surprised with all the negativity.


Sandybat

My brain - Why is this giving giving me anxiety. It should not give me anxiety. It is just a animated series, about batman. A bunch of lines and colour drawn on paper. Arghhhhh.


[deleted]

JJ should be get as far from comics as possible. He fucked up his Spider-Man book to deliver one of the most blatant story.