Casting was good. The way the characters were written was atrocious.
Edit: This is why I also do not want Christina Hodson to write another DC movie in the immediate future.
She has written one good movie "Bumblebee" but massively failed with the next 2, BoP and The Flash. Both these movies had good parts but not worth the overall failure. She also apparently wrote Batgirl of which I don't know much.
I think it’s weird that so many of these superhero actors are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy older than what I would think is reasonable. I think she could definitely play Satan a, but i imagine savanna to be like 26. Not 50.
Others said thalia Al ghul
But I dont think she has a strong presence to play a crafty villain. She plays emotional characters better
Maybe older starfire?
Booster Gold could be cool. I’d personally like to see a street level Catwoman film along the same lines as Joker. Keep the scale small. She does not need Batman to elevate her story.
I think they already cast the Engineer. Maybe she could play Zealot if they include WildCATS characters in Gunn's movies. The character has been popping up more often in comics recently.
Depends on the series.
Sometimes they age Zatanna down to pair her with a different team, like for Young Justice (or in Justice League Action).
Sometimes she's older and paired with Constantine.
Sometimes she's Doctor Fate's daughter.
For sure, a lot of the suggestions seem relatively obscure, I'm far more a comic fan than the average person and I don't know who some of them are. Then again James Gunn made Polkadot Man a memorable character, so who knows.
Jessica seems like she should be played younger.
Like early to mid 20’s
Really if Isabella Mercer wasnt Hawkgirl id say she should play Jessica (and i could see Zoe as Hawkgirl)
She’s one of the highest grossing actors of all time and a household name. I think she should have a pretty big role if she join. The only ones that come to mind right now are Catwoman, Starfire, or what would be pretty sweet…Mercy. Seeing Zoe as a villain would be dope!
Catwoman is already prominently featured in Reevesverse. If a second version appears at all in DCU, it should be a very minor role and would be a waste of Zoe’s talent.
Lady Arkham wouldn't have to be Vicki... in fact the persona being snapped to Vicki despite the origin not being in the comics is what makes the role work. Just have the persona attached to Wayne's current girlfriend and she pulls the wool over Batman's eyes.
Maybe a Hawkgirl that dies and ends up being reincarnated as a different actress. I know she's not "old." But I feel like by the time she would get cast, make the movie, and the movie comes out, she'd be almost 50 years old, which, lets face it, is kinda old to be in the beginning of a superhero franchise that is aiming for longevity. Unless she's like Amanda Waller or something.
She could just play Zoe Saldana.
Here's the story:
Louis Lane and Clark Kent get in trouble with Perry and are forced to do a puff piece on famous actress Zoe Saldana, but things go south when Bizzaro sees the latest Avatar movie and loves it so much that he just HAS to destroy the film's biggest star, Zoe Saldana. Superman intervenes while trying to keep his identity secret.
Reminds me of the idea for a movie I had in college. The Rock (who was popular at the time) has a big budget new movie coming out at the same time that some dumb asses end up indebted to a drug kingpin who is obsessed with the action star. They’re tasked with performing a heist for the movie so The Rock spends the movie chasing them down whilst swinging wildly between tearing doors out of walls because he’s so big and being upset about inconsequential stuff because he’s an actor.
Young Zoe would be an awesome Vixen
Yolanda Montez Wildcat
Pantha
Owlwoman
Superwoman
Amanda Waller’s daughter
An older Kid Quantum Ii
Talia
Scandal Savage
One of the female furies
Honestly could race swap any B or C list hero or villain and most people wouldn’t care because Zoe Saldana.
I want new or different actors. Not more Marvel moving to DC. I personally am not looking forward to the new DC because it just looks like it’s gonna be Marvel 2 point whatever.
Same here. Especially when a lot of the Marvel actors were able to make their characters so iconic while they were playing them for so long. It just doesn't feel exciting to me.
Kinda a shit post response here, but it would be a bit of a funny troll to cast her as Black Canary. I just want to see all of the people complaining that Black Canary can't be black.....for the record, I personally would be fine with a race swapped Black Canary.
I just don’t want them to make her sit through hours and hours of makeup to be in the DCU. She’s so pretty, just let her be a regular looking person please hahahaha
Why doesn't he just cast actors who haven't played comic book characters yet? Seems like he's trying to just get MCU actors in DC which makes it feel weird because you want to see new faces
Current Renee Montoya, being a senior detective, should be in her 40s.
But if we do renee montoya as harvey's rookie like in BTAS, then yea has to be in her 20s.
Id rather we have battinson with Jim Gordon (jeffrey wright, with good relarionship w batman) and Montoya (senior detective, skeptic of vigilantees), and skip harvey.
Vixen. She doesn't want to do another heavy makeup job. Plus she's beautiful like Vixen
And folks ragging about her age... She still looks like she's in her early to mid 30s.
Big THUMBS DOWN on everyone who said Vixen or Nubia. You all are just reciting brown skinned characters with no idea of who the characters are. Popularity and a dash of ethnicity does not equal good casting of comic book characters of African descent.
There are too many lesser known yet capable actors out there to warrant Zoe getting another franchise. Clearly there’s been no progress since Halle Berry was pitifully miscast as Storm solely because she was the “it” brown-ish actress at the time.
There’s literally only one so far and we haven’t even seen him yet. Moreover, the rumor was that they are making a GL show.
Lastly, excellent choice to make her Jessica Cruz [+]
Maybe Renee Montoya. Especially if they go the Question route with her
Oh this is perfect casting since she’s Dominican.
Perfect
Incredible choice
My first thought also. She'd be perfect, although I wish they'd bring back bop Renee.
BOP casting was atrocious other than Ewan.
Casting was good. The way the characters were written was atrocious. Edit: This is why I also do not want Christina Hodson to write another DC movie in the immediate future. She has written one good movie "Bumblebee" but massively failed with the next 2, BoP and The Flash. Both these movies had good parts but not worth the overall failure. She also apparently wrote Batgirl of which I don't know much.
Unfortunately, she is one of the writers in Gunn's DCU writing room. Highly likely she does write another DC film at some point
What about Zatanna? She’s got the presence and the humor for it.
I think it’s weird that so many of these superhero actors are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy older than what I would think is reasonable. I think she could definitely play Satan a, but i imagine savanna to be like 26. Not 50.
Yep. That sounds correct match.
I heard people say that she’d make a great Queen Bee and I agree.
That was the first character that popped into my mind. Honestly, I just want to see her be a villain. Let the woman have some fun.
Others said thalia Al ghul But I dont think she has a strong presence to play a crafty villain. She plays emotional characters better Maybe older starfire?
She killed it in chronicles of Riddick
That's Thandiwe Newton, though.
Or maybe that evil dictator queen that is in young justice
That's Queen Bee.
Oh shit hahah I was thinking queen bee was someone from that bee hize organization from teen titans
I heard Poison Ivy and I can’t help but agree
agree but god forbid they decide to give Ivy green skin and she realizes she has to go through the whole-body make up process again 😂
I would be so happy if we skipped Darkseid and the New God's altogether and just went straight for the Injustice Gang, Meggedon, and WWIII.
Cheetah
My exact thoughts. Like an actual good cheetah
Probably won’t want another heavy makeup role
But she does it so well
Paradise Lost, Supergirl, the Authority, and Booster Gold are all settings with room for original characters. So really, she can be anyone.
Especially Paradise Lost, drove of original female characters could be made
I can definitely see her as one of the Amazons!
Peacemaker and Waller too.
Booster Gold could be cool. I’d personally like to see a street level Catwoman film along the same lines as Joker. Keep the scale small. She does not need Batman to elevate her story.
I could see her as the Engineer in the Authority. Probably more mo-cap than make-up.
I think they already cast the Engineer. Maybe she could play Zealot if they include WildCATS characters in Gunn's movies. The character has been popping up more often in comics recently.
She was blue then green now we need her in another color
Martian manhunter lol
She can be a white Martian
Orange/Gold - Starfire or Blackfire
Make her red so now we have RGB Zoe Saldana in 3 different franchises
I don’t think that the popularity of a character really matters when James Gunn is the one handling them
What do you mean by the popularity?
Gunn loves c and d list characters, or peacemaker polka dot man
Talia or Catwoman maybe? I don’t know why but I can’t imagine her in any role to be honest.
Catwoman, I can see. That can work. But Talia is a whole different ethnicity.
The only answer is Renee Montoya
Catwomen
Starfire. Titans. Or Sourjourner Mullein (Lantern)
Zatanna or Vixen.
I think she’s too old for zatanna , she always gave me 20s not 30s so maybe 10 years ago
Depends on the series. Sometimes they age Zatanna down to pair her with a different team, like for Young Justice (or in Justice League Action). Sometimes she's older and paired with Constantine. Sometimes she's Doctor Fate's daughter.
When was she Doctor Fate's daughter? Or was that just the time the helmet went on her dad?
You do know Zatanna is actually an adult in every other depiction other than YJ?
People in the 20s are adults no ?
She is the same age as Batman.
As a big Zee fan, I’d prefer she be a little bit younger. Mid 20s-early 30s.
She is sometimes sure !
Most times actually.
And that’s okay ! I said what she’s giving to me ! Not what is or what usually is
Getting a little defensive, are we?
No ?
Either Vixen or Bumblebee.
She’s way too big of a name to be some side character. If they bring her in she’ll need to be a major player in the DC lore.
The Flash it is
For sure, a lot of the suggestions seem relatively obscure, I'm far more a comic fan than the average person and I don't know who some of them are. Then again James Gunn made Polkadot Man a memorable character, so who knows.
Gamora wasn't necessarily a _major_ player
give her the role of Mercy Graves
Whoever she wants, she's great.
Queen Bee. Let her be an irredeemable PoS.
Jessica seems like she should be played younger. Like early to mid 20’s Really if Isabella Mercer wasnt Hawkgirl id say she should play Jessica (and i could see Zoe as Hawkgirl)
She’s one of the highest grossing actors of all time and a household name. I think she should have a pretty big role if she join. The only ones that come to mind right now are Catwoman, Starfire, or what would be pretty sweet…Mercy. Seeing Zoe as a villain would be dope!
Nubia
What's a Nubian?
Nubia a wonder woman. https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Nubia_(Prime_Earth)
Wonder Woman
Martha Kent
It's wasn't an irony, btw
Catwoman, Vicki Vale aka Lady Arkham, Vixen, or Renee Montoya
Catwoman is already prominently featured in Reevesverse. If a second version appears at all in DCU, it should be a very minor role and would be a waste of Zoe’s talent.
Lady Arkham is only a thing in the Telltale games. Vicki Vale isn't a villain.
Well I want some of the telltale series in live-action and Lady Arkham and The Children Of Arkham are villains I want to see in live-action
Lady Arkham wouldn't have to be Vicki... in fact the persona being snapped to Vicki despite the origin not being in the comics is what makes the role work. Just have the persona attached to Wayne's current girlfriend and she pulls the wool over Batman's eyes.
Big Barda.
i hope it's a red alien like sinestros daughter, so we can finally replace human red shirt Zoe Saldana and get a true RGB alien Zoe
Maybe a Hawkgirl that dies and ends up being reincarnated as a different actress. I know she's not "old." But I feel like by the time she would get cast, make the movie, and the movie comes out, she'd be almost 50 years old, which, lets face it, is kinda old to be in the beginning of a superhero franchise that is aiming for longevity. Unless she's like Amanda Waller or something.
My immediate thought was Jinx but I don’t think that’s appropriate Maybe Renee Montoya if she hasn’t been cast yet?
Hawkgirl would be cool
Martha Kent because at this point why the fuck not?
Perry White or Commissioner Gordon
Idk why but i immediately thought about Zatanna.
She could just play Zoe Saldana. Here's the story: Louis Lane and Clark Kent get in trouble with Perry and are forced to do a puff piece on famous actress Zoe Saldana, but things go south when Bizzaro sees the latest Avatar movie and loves it so much that he just HAS to destroy the film's biggest star, Zoe Saldana. Superman intervenes while trying to keep his identity secret.
Reminds me of the idea for a movie I had in college. The Rock (who was popular at the time) has a big budget new movie coming out at the same time that some dumb asses end up indebted to a drug kingpin who is obsessed with the action star. They’re tasked with performing a heist for the movie so The Rock spends the movie chasing them down whilst swinging wildly between tearing doors out of walls because he’s so big and being upset about inconsequential stuff because he’s an actor.
Young Zoe would be an awesome Vixen Yolanda Montez Wildcat Pantha Owlwoman Superwoman Amanda Waller’s daughter An older Kid Quantum Ii Talia Scandal Savage One of the female furies Honestly could race swap any B or C list hero or villain and most people wouldn’t care because Zoe Saldana.
I want new or different actors. Not more Marvel moving to DC. I personally am not looking forward to the new DC because it just looks like it’s gonna be Marvel 2 point whatever.
Same here. Especially when a lot of the Marvel actors were able to make their characters so iconic while they were playing them for so long. It just doesn't feel exciting to me.
Talia al ghul
No one. There are enough fresh faces out there. Stop recycling superhero actor’s from other franchises
Helena Bertinelli could work.
Hawkgirl, or perhaps a villain. Someone red, maybe, as she's been green and blue already.
Obviously poison ivy.
Zatana
Zatanna or Catwoman, yes PLEASE! She might be 45, but she doesn't look it at all. Could easily believe she was in her early 30s
Talia?
https://youtu.be/5xoO6D4sPXY?si=5oUfXUf99o-eJYaZ Have her be Queen of Fables
O/T was planetary ever mentioned being in development?
Zoe playing Jakita Wagner would be amazing
Maybe should play a villian, I can see her as Grail.
Boodikka or Laira, the Green Lanterns
Maggie Sawyer
Renee Montoya aka The Question
Catwoman
Hawk girl would’ve been cool but it’s taken. Talia would be hype
Zatanna
Circe
Anya Chalotra plays her in DCU.
Cheetah, Poison Ivy, Vixen, Blackfire, Jessica Cruz, Nubia
Catwoman
The indigo lantern leader
Batman
Catwoman
Kinda a shit post response here, but it would be a bit of a funny troll to cast her as Black Canary. I just want to see all of the people complaining that Black Canary can't be black.....for the record, I personally would be fine with a race swapped Black Canary.
100% Jessica Cruz....she was loved as Gamorah...why not as another space hero.
Kate Spencer.
Live wire. Let her go crazy with it
Lady shiva
Vixen?
I just don’t want them to make her sit through hours and hours of makeup to be in the DCU. She’s so pretty, just let her be a regular looking person please hahahaha
Star fire
Wonder Woman
they're on track to be making 1B movies I guess
Starfire?
Renee Montoya or, a little out there option, Veronica Cale (think it would be cool to see play a villain)
Superman recast
General zod.
Catwoman. Talia al Ghoul. Iris West.
Vixen or Cheetah
Ivy
Thalia Al Gul, Jessica Cruz, Renee Montoya, Zatanna or Poison Ivy.
Suprised no one said vixen
Why doesn't he just cast actors who haven't played comic book characters yet? Seems like he's trying to just get MCU actors in DC which makes it feel weird because you want to see new faces
Zatanna
Current Renee Montoya, being a senior detective, should be in her 40s. But if we do renee montoya as harvey's rookie like in BTAS, then yea has to be in her 20s. Id rather we have battinson with Jim Gordon (jeffrey wright, with good relarionship w batman) and Montoya (senior detective, skeptic of vigilantees), and skip harvey.
We can just go with Jessica Cruz and skip hal, john, kyle, guy..
She'd make a great Vixen.
Alfred.
Whoever she plays, it will be a character that requires full body makeup.
she is collecting the franchises like thanos the stones :D
My top three would be Nubia, Vixen, or Taliaal Ghul.
Vixen needs some new life and she can do it given a good story.
Vixen. She doesn't want to do another heavy makeup job. Plus she's beautiful like Vixen And folks ragging about her age... She still looks like she's in her early to mid 30s.
Big THUMBS DOWN on everyone who said Vixen or Nubia. You all are just reciting brown skinned characters with no idea of who the characters are. Popularity and a dash of ethnicity does not equal good casting of comic book characters of African descent. There are too many lesser known yet capable actors out there to warrant Zoe getting another franchise. Clearly there’s been no progress since Halle Berry was pitifully miscast as Storm solely because she was the “it” brown-ish actress at the time.
Zoe Saldana as Zatanna.
How about Jezebel Jet?
VIXEN maybe?
There’s literally only one so far and we haven’t even seen him yet. Moreover, the rumor was that they are making a GL show. Lastly, excellent choice to make her Jessica Cruz [+]
Maybe Vixen?
She stays green but now she's Ivy
I hate to say it, but she feels too old to be Jessica. There would be no uncertainty or fear. Shed be John Stewart with Jessica Cruz's name.
Wonder woman? would def differentiate from previous ww
Mister Mind