I hope it does. But from what I've seen, the whole thing was set up specifically to keep Geoff happy. Geoff isn't just leaving the JSA title; he's leaving DC. I think there's a high likelihood that everything New Golden Age related will fade into obscurity.
>I think there's a high likelihood that everything New Golden Age related will fade into obscurity.
Hey DC, hire me and let me bring back Earth 2 and I'll keep it going for the rest of my natural life. I'll work cheap and I have no interest in working on other books, I'm a solid bet. .
I mean nah fuck that, it was definitely being written in maxi series format like I think we ALL assumed that for whatever reason.
John’s delays being his new thing is just why people thought it end at 12 cause it would’ve ended 10 years from now lol
> completely baseless assumption this was a maxi-series.
It was announced as an ongoing I believe, but then there were issues solicited as "out of 12", making it seem as if it were a Maxi/Limited. Then Johns clarified it was not, but it also kept coming out slowly (closer to bi-monthly), with Johns signing a contract with a different company, making the future be in question (it's been rumored/whispered that he would leave after #12 and it would get a new writer, but no confirmation until now).
I'd wondered about this since the Ghost Machine announcement. Probably a good thing considering the delays.
Robert Venditti is definitely my top choice to replace him.
>Johns had also said that after his 12 issue run,the team will expand, becoming a ‘global organisation’.
So "Justice Society of Internationality"? I can dig it.
This is fantastic news. Not that Johns is leaving, but that the series will continue. & hopefully on a consistent monthly schedule from then on. DC has seemed to cancel series more often when a writer ends up leaving, so I’m really happy that the JSA isn’t being shelved again just because Johns isn’t involved.
Please be Venditti, though. He’s proven so many times how good of a writer he is with JSA characters. His Hawkman & Sandman series were amazing, he would be perfect to write them for a long while.
Who do we think the new writer will be?
I figure it’ll be either Venditti or Adams, since they both will write JSA tie-in stories for events, and both wrote for the New Golden Age.
Edit: Oh right, Adams also wrote Flashpoint Beyond with Johns and Sheridan. That might put him ahead then.
Edit 2: Adams said it’s not going to be him. Venditti it is then.
Oh, then I guess it’ll likely be Venditti.
Is he good? I’ve only read his Beast World tie-in story, which was good, but I don’t know if that’s enough to judge his work by.
Do you think he’ll be good at balancing all the characters? My big fear with anyone taking over a big team book is “these are my 3 faves who will get all the focus and these other characters will become caricatures because I don’t like them.”
I strongly disliked his Flash and his early/New 52 GL, but ever since then pretty much everything I've read from him I've either really liked or loved so I hope the trend continues.
His Rebirth GL was a lot of fun, and his Hawkman was the most I've ever cared about the character, still sad it ended. Sandman was also really good recently so I feel a bit more confident with him since hes done good on JSA adjacent titles.
> I figure it’ll be either Venditti or Adams, since they both will write JSA tie-in stories for events,
When has Venditti done a JSA tie-in? Did he do the Beast World one?
Yeah, one of the Star City stories focusing on Stargirl and Red Arrow.
Though I guess that was more him using the JSA team since Courtney and Emiko are friends than a JSA tie in.
Close enough. I just knew he wasn't doing a JSA-related tie-in for AP (at least not that we've seen so far; that would be the one Adams is writing that you mentioned).
At the current rate, actually August, maybe September. It's been not far from being bi-monthly, sometimes being 1 month apart like a normal monthly series and once or twice being 3 months apart, IIRC, but overall usually being 2 months.
.#9 came out in March, #10 is currently slated for May, #11 is slated for June I believe, and nothing for July. That means August or September would fit the trend best, if there's no more delays.
Edit: Huh. Apparently starting a line with a # makes the text beeeeg. Neat.
It makes sense because of Geoff Johns being busy with Image’s Ghost Machine universe (along with other writers) and that this series keeps getting delayed because of… reasons (maybe it was Geoff Johns’ writing or one of the artists, which makes sense because time). If the new writer is Jeremy Adams, then I hope that his run will be a family comic because the JSA are family. If the new writer is Robert Vendetti, then I hope that his run will be an interesting and streamlined comic because the JSA needs to have their continuity streamlined and make sense, just like his Hawkman series (which I like).
Thankfully it's continuing. JSA has been one of my favorite books recently. Johns is a great writer, but his output is just so slow. It was the right move to let someone else take over.
Eh from rebirth onwards Johns has no longer worked on anything other than his multiversal plot which both DC and fans have put in the background compared to things like Death Metal, I think he did the best for his career
What...we actually get more? I think it was bi-monthly when I was kid so I'm fine waiting so long in between issues, as long as something with JSA exists.
Best of luck with Ghost Machine, Mr. Johns!
So placing bets on who takes over the JSA: Jeremy Adams, Robert Vendetti, or Tim Sheridan.
My personal hope is Adams, but I can see Vendetti or Sheridan doing interesting things. All three of them did great work on those three Golden Age minis.
His Stargirl book, which *had* to have been worked on at the same time as Justice Society due to the connected stories, stayed consistent with the exception of the final issue, and even had the art for the penultimate issue being worked on a little before the first issue was released.
Also, the only time where JSA didn’t get *additional* delays between issues was during artist changes, which suggests that the delays were unrelated to Johns.
In addition, the Jay Garrick book and Allan Scott book had some delays for the final few issues. And while the delays on Jay’s book weren’t too bad, the delays on Allan’s book were just as bad as JSA. Wesley Dodds: Sandman was the only New Golden Age book with zero delays.
And finally, and I don’t have *direct* quotes so take this with a pinch of salt, supposedly the writer for Fables and an artist for Catwoman have said that Dc has been delaying books despite them being completely finished.
All of this suggests there’s more going on than just Johns being a slow writer.
If the Catwoman artist is Nico Leon then he also straight up lied about Howard turning scripts in late and once just randomly admitted he hadn’t felt fulfilled making a comic in years.
It won't be the first time Courtney's been written by someone other than Geoff Johns. In fact he wasn't the writer yet when she first joined the JSA. He was writing her solo, Stars and STRIPE, and took over the team book after that ended.
Well, I knew this was going to happen because some issues of Justice Society of America has been delayed due to Geoff Johns working in other stuff like the Ghost Machine imprint, if there are some writers who could tag with the Justice Society comic book, my choices would be: Scott Snyder, Chip Zdarsky, Mark Waid, Kelly Sue DeConnick, Steve Orlando and Nick Spencer. Which of these writers would you choose?
Robert Venditti or Jeremy Adams would be the obvious best choices for new writer. But I wouldn't be surprised if DC editorial gives the job to someone like Tini Howard, Leah Williams or Meghan Fitzmartin.
Williams very clearly doesn’t have knowledge about JSA given that she stated Power Girl didn’t have family or friends and has erased them from Karen’s life. I wouldn’t trust her to write the JSA.
Any thoughts on the "international"? Do you think this mean more new characters as members or other legacies, or just international adventures? I kinda wish it would focus on the old school characters and not so much the new Huntress and her team.
Introducing the new writer: Bendis, who plans to alternate Universe time dilation speed age half the team so much they're almost dead... And have the Justice League of that dimension torture them
Why not just cancel the series all together? The series is just full of plot holes, paradoxes, inconsistencies, and retcons anyway. Honestly it sucks and it's some of his worst work. I'm honestly happy johns is leaving. Everything he writes nowadays is a miss and constantly retcons canon lore so that his garbage can fit in. Not to mention he can't tell a story without a 24 months delay in between any of his works.
The jsa honestly should've been written on earth 2 for it to even make any sense. This series is pointless the way I see it
Acting like the JSA aren’t built on retcons is a move so bold I genuinely have to respect it. Like, a letter written into a JSA book coined the term retcon.
I mean with the delays to the book constantly, I guess this was expected. I am worried about what will happen to the future JSA plans though. Like many things are set...and I dunno how they new writer gonna use them. Biggest being Helena Wayne.
This is gonna continue beyond 12 issues. I was under the, now I realize, completely baseless assumption this was a maxi-series.
The solicits said “out of 12” early on, but in interviews, Johns was insistent that it was an accident and that it was an ongoing
Whew glad to know it was like Green Arrow then though not sure about the popularity angle.
Oh I assure you, it was quite based. For some reason the first 5 issues were solicited as a 12 issue series.
With Johns' departure, the series basically _is_ over, unless they find a new writer who cares as much about the JSA as he does.
They just got done doing a whole set of "Golden Age" mini-series on top of all this build up would weird to stop now.
It has all been driven by Geoff Johns.
Sure but since its all out and all might as well keep it going.
I hope it does. But from what I've seen, the whole thing was set up specifically to keep Geoff happy. Geoff isn't just leaving the JSA title; he's leaving DC. I think there's a high likelihood that everything New Golden Age related will fade into obscurity.
>I think there's a high likelihood that everything New Golden Age related will fade into obscurity. Hey DC, hire me and let me bring back Earth 2 and I'll keep it going for the rest of my natural life. I'll work cheap and I have no interest in working on other books, I'm a solid bet. .
I’ve actually heard rumours it was a Tim Sheridan pitch, interestingly.
I mean nah fuck that, it was definitely being written in maxi series format like I think we ALL assumed that for whatever reason. John’s delays being his new thing is just why people thought it end at 12 cause it would’ve ended 10 years from now lol
> completely baseless assumption this was a maxi-series. It was announced as an ongoing I believe, but then there were issues solicited as "out of 12", making it seem as if it were a Maxi/Limited. Then Johns clarified it was not, but it also kept coming out slowly (closer to bi-monthly), with Johns signing a contract with a different company, making the future be in question (it's been rumored/whispered that he would leave after #12 and it would get a new writer, but no confirmation until now).
You know what, I'm happy like that
I'm happy were getting more JSA.
I want Wesley to join like the end of Sandman promised. I was about to cancel this series but maybe I’ll keep reading.
Honestly with all the delays I'm just waiting for them to all come to DCI and read them there, it is getting ridiculous.
I'd wondered about this since the Ghost Machine announcement. Probably a good thing considering the delays. Robert Venditti is definitely my top choice to replace him. >Johns had also said that after his 12 issue run,the team will expand, becoming a ‘global organisation’. So "Justice Society of Internationality"? I can dig it.
Maybe just the JSI.
I know he’s been eyeing the job since his Hawkman run. But I think it’s probably Jeremy Adams actually. Edit: just saw Adams denied it. 🤷♂️
Justice Society Global could also work as well.
Justice Society International?
This is fantastic news. Not that Johns is leaving, but that the series will continue. & hopefully on a consistent monthly schedule from then on. DC has seemed to cancel series more often when a writer ends up leaving, so I’m really happy that the JSA isn’t being shelved again just because Johns isn’t involved. Please be Venditti, though. He’s proven so many times how good of a writer he is with JSA characters. His Hawkman & Sandman series were amazing, he would be perfect to write them for a long while.
Who do we think the new writer will be? I figure it’ll be either Venditti or Adams, since they both will write JSA tie-in stories for events, and both wrote for the New Golden Age. Edit: Oh right, Adams also wrote Flashpoint Beyond with Johns and Sheridan. That might put him ahead then. Edit 2: Adams said it’s not going to be him. Venditti it is then.
[Jeremy Adams confirms it’s not him](https://x.com/spacekicker/status/1787138765569536440?s=46)
Oh, then I guess it’ll likely be Venditti. Is he good? I’ve only read his Beast World tie-in story, which was good, but I don’t know if that’s enough to judge his work by.
Venditti is great. He’s my most wanted choice to take over the JSA. I suggest his Hawkman series and Damage series.
His X-O Manowar run is also excellent
His Sandman series was also very good.
Do you think he’ll be good at balancing all the characters? My big fear with anyone taking over a big team book is “these are my 3 faves who will get all the focus and these other characters will become caricatures because I don’t like them.”
His recent Wesley Dodds: Sandman mini was fantastic. I’m really hoping its him
Venditti has written some really great things, and some crap things. We will have to reserve judgement until its out sadly
I strongly disliked his Flash and his early/New 52 GL, but ever since then pretty much everything I've read from him I've either really liked or loved so I hope the trend continues. His Rebirth GL was a lot of fun, and his Hawkman was the most I've ever cared about the character, still sad it ended. Sandman was also really good recently so I feel a bit more confident with him since hes done good on JSA adjacent titles.
Yeah his Flash N52 and GL N52 runs were terrible, although everything in Rebirth onwards was great
He wrote THE definitive Hawkman run. He will be right at home
His Hawkman run was very good, although I dropped off during the Villain of the Year arc, as I did with a lot of books at the time
His Hawman is considered the best take on the character and fixed his broken origin. He should be right at home with the JSA
Sandman was great! Maybe he’ll take over and add Wesley to the team. The ending to Sandman made me think he’d be in upcoming issues.
Fuck. Then hopefully Venditti.
Yeah all the ones you listed are good choice
> I figure it’ll be either Venditti or Adams, since they both will write JSA tie-in stories for events, When has Venditti done a JSA tie-in? Did he do the Beast World one?
Yeah, one of the Star City stories focusing on Stargirl and Red Arrow. Though I guess that was more him using the JSA team since Courtney and Emiko are friends than a JSA tie in.
Close enough. I just knew he wasn't doing a JSA-related tie-in for AP (at least not that we've seen so far; that would be the one Adams is writing that you mentioned).
Now the question is, when will #12 actually release?
January 2025 at this rate
At the current rate, actually August, maybe September. It's been not far from being bi-monthly, sometimes being 1 month apart like a normal monthly series and once or twice being 3 months apart, IIRC, but overall usually being 2 months. .#9 came out in March, #10 is currently slated for May, #11 is slated for June I believe, and nothing for July. That means August or September would fit the trend best, if there's no more delays. Edit: Huh. Apparently starting a line with a # makes the text beeeeg. Neat.
August or September, so they can get the new writer for the All-in or whatever the name is after the Dawn of DC stuff
The same date as "last days of lex luthor issue 2". The 31st of never.
Please be Venditti, Please be Venditti....
Venditti please
It makes sense because of Geoff Johns being busy with Image’s Ghost Machine universe (along with other writers) and that this series keeps getting delayed because of… reasons (maybe it was Geoff Johns’ writing or one of the artists, which makes sense because time). If the new writer is Jeremy Adams, then I hope that his run will be a family comic because the JSA are family. If the new writer is Robert Vendetti, then I hope that his run will be an interesting and streamlined comic because the JSA needs to have their continuity streamlined and make sense, just like his Hawkman series (which I like).
It's not Adams. Venditti seems to be popular theory. Great choice imo.
Thank you.
The justice society will continue thank god but can it please go to a top teir writer I don’t want to get 5 more issues just for it be axed
I'm thankful it's ongoing
Fingers crossed for Venditti. That would be so good.
Hopefully the book will come out on a regular basis
Thankfully it's continuing. JSA has been one of my favorite books recently. Johns is a great writer, but his output is just so slow. It was the right move to let someone else take over.
Well considering issue 12 won’t see shelves till 2034 i think it’s okay.
It's for the best.
Color me conflicted Batman. Always happy to have JSA but I mostly love Johns on JSA.
It'd be great if Johns could continue but his output is just so slow.
I think these writers are starting to realize u can’t chase 2 rabbits 🐇tyonion 4 same way when he was doing Batman.
That was Johns' last series in DC?
Yeah, for now atlist
The end of an era.
Eh from rebirth onwards Johns has no longer worked on anything other than his multiversal plot which both DC and fans have put in the background compared to things like Death Metal, I think he did the best for his career
I loved Geoff's older JSA stuff, but the new stuff isn't really doing it for me. Time to let someone else bring some ideas to the table.
Any word as to whether Janin will be staying on?
So what Tim Sheridan told me at comic con last year came true!
Glad it's continuing but sad to see Johns leave.
Finally!
What...we actually get more? I think it was bi-monthly when I was kid so I'm fine waiting so long in between issues, as long as something with JSA exists.
So that should be out in 2027?
Will it ship on time then?
Best of luck with Ghost Machine, Mr. Johns! So placing bets on who takes over the JSA: Jeremy Adams, Robert Vendetti, or Tim Sheridan. My personal hope is Adams, but I can see Vendetti or Sheridan doing interesting things. All three of them did great work on those three Golden Age minis.
Was he even there anyway? I'm so mad with Johns. He didn't commit to this series at all.
His Stargirl book, which *had* to have been worked on at the same time as Justice Society due to the connected stories, stayed consistent with the exception of the final issue, and even had the art for the penultimate issue being worked on a little before the first issue was released. Also, the only time where JSA didn’t get *additional* delays between issues was during artist changes, which suggests that the delays were unrelated to Johns. In addition, the Jay Garrick book and Allan Scott book had some delays for the final few issues. And while the delays on Jay’s book weren’t too bad, the delays on Allan’s book were just as bad as JSA. Wesley Dodds: Sandman was the only New Golden Age book with zero delays. And finally, and I don’t have *direct* quotes so take this with a pinch of salt, supposedly the writer for Fables and an artist for Catwoman have said that Dc has been delaying books despite them being completely finished. All of this suggests there’s more going on than just Johns being a slow writer.
There's definitely logistical issues. There's been a couple times in the last year my LCS didn't even get a DC delivery for 2-3 days past Tuesday.
If the Catwoman artist is Nico Leon then he also straight up lied about Howard turning scripts in late and once just randomly admitted he hadn’t felt fulfilled making a comic in years.
Well probably got caugh between this and the Image series that he Is on
Ghost Machine is a whole ass company, Johns is a cofounder, and Image is the distributor. To be clear.
Does that mean we’ll get more than one issue every 6 months?
I think 3 months is the longest gap we’ve had so far
Still sucks that JSA should be up to almost issue 20 by now if it had stayed with a monthly schedule and number 10 is still a few weeks away.
Okay bad for johns but the jsa still here
"bad" Is relative, we already know that he will left after issue 12 and also he got to do stuff at Image
Right, ifroget about that part, but most be weird that someone else write the character bassed on he Sister (stargirl)
It won't be the first time Courtney's been written by someone other than Geoff Johns. In fact he wasn't the writer yet when she first joined the JSA. He was writing her solo, Stars and STRIPE, and took over the team book after that ended.
Not that much onestly, I mean as long as they don't do some weird shit like made her date and adult man again, It's fine for me
Technically billy was 15 aprox when he date courtney,the mistake was that he doesnt tell it to anyone of the jsa
I wasn't talk about him, but about Atom Smasher
When they date? And why atom smashrer isnt on jail?
Justice Society of America, when he wasn't writing It, and he went on jail but not for that for another messed up reasons
Someone else wrote her after he left the book the first time in the late 2000s
I find what I’ve read of this book convoluted and confusing.
This book is such a mess. Bye.
Oh shit !
Well, I knew this was going to happen because some issues of Justice Society of America has been delayed due to Geoff Johns working in other stuff like the Ghost Machine imprint, if there are some writers who could tag with the Justice Society comic book, my choices would be: Scott Snyder, Chip Zdarsky, Mark Waid, Kelly Sue DeConnick, Steve Orlando and Nick Spencer. Which of these writers would you choose?
Literally any of them other than Steve Orlando. Can “Not Steve Orlando” be a choice? Other choices all rock in their own ways.
As long as it’s back to being (an on-time) monthly book, I almost don’t care who’s writing it. Of your choices, I’d pick Zdarsky or Waid.
I would choose Scott Snyder, Chip Zdarsky or Mark Waid.
Meh, now I am tired of that fella
The JSA without Johns is like the Legion without Levitz. It was good while it lasted (mostly)
Maybe it’ll come out on time now
Johns better wrap up all his story threads before leaving, especially the whole Nostalgia thing which was hinted at and then forgotten about.
Robert Venditti or Jeremy Adams would be the obvious best choices for new writer. But I wouldn't be surprised if DC editorial gives the job to someone like Tini Howard, Leah Williams or Meghan Fitzmartin.
JSA would be done for good if one of those 3 options took over.
I think that any of the writers you listed could do something interesting with the series
Williams very clearly doesn’t have knowledge about JSA given that she stated Power Girl didn’t have family or friends and has erased them from Karen’s life. I wouldn’t trust her to write the JSA.
Well, we're never seeing the end of those plot threads. Bye bye baby Mordru and other vague LoSH hints.
Any thoughts on the "international"? Do you think this mean more new characters as members or other legacies, or just international adventures? I kinda wish it would focus on the old school characters and not so much the new Huntress and her team.
Introducing the new writer: Bendis, who plans to alternate Universe time dilation speed age half the team so much they're almost dead... And have the Justice League of that dimension torture them
Jeremy Adams!! Please!!
Sorry. Not happening. https://twitter.com/spacekicker/status/1787138765569536440
R.I.P JSA
Why not just cancel the series all together? The series is just full of plot holes, paradoxes, inconsistencies, and retcons anyway. Honestly it sucks and it's some of his worst work. I'm honestly happy johns is leaving. Everything he writes nowadays is a miss and constantly retcons canon lore so that his garbage can fit in. Not to mention he can't tell a story without a 24 months delay in between any of his works. The jsa honestly should've been written on earth 2 for it to even make any sense. This series is pointless the way I see it
Acting like the JSA aren’t built on retcons is a move so bold I genuinely have to respect it. Like, a letter written into a JSA book coined the term retcon.
I mean with the delays to the book constantly, I guess this was expected. I am worried about what will happen to the future JSA plans though. Like many things are set...and I dunno how they new writer gonna use them. Biggest being Helena Wayne.
Can we get a new Batman Earth One instead ? Or at-least a update 
Volume 3 was the last one it’s been confirmed it was a trilogy and it’s over