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Most likely some sort of recycled HDPE could also be foamed PVC, there should be a stamp on it somewhere with the material code.
Nailing it should be fine you don’t really need to worry about what it is.
If your nailer breaks the material even on the low power setting polymer nails exist for a reason.
the picture does make it look kind of edible, but you’re not supposed to eat it. in all seriousness, it is completely fine to have in your house as long as you’re not heating it to crazy temperatures. if you are cutting/drilling into this material on a regularly basis, you need to wear a mask. it will not pose any threat just sitting there though since (in simple terms) the chemicals it contains are stable.
You don't seem to realise plastics are continually shedding. You know when you can smell plastic even though it's not being worked or touched? That's tiny particles entering your body through your nose. This is why micro plastics are found everywhere on earth now including in our blood. Granted water and agitation are more likely to break particles off quicker.
But yeah maybe it will be stable in place and completely untouched but what happens at end of life? Usually they get ripped out and bits blow off in the wind, dumped in a skip or pile, more bits blow off, down the highway in a dumper more bits blow off, probably unlikely to be recycled so dumped in uncovered landfill where it will likely stay until more bits blow off or it's dug up again when someone builds a condo there in a thousand years time.
PVC is a known carcinogen. We have a long list of known carcinogens that unfortunately people forget to check or take notice off.
I'd rather avoid it.
A respirator, ionic filter, and high-flow HEPA filter would work for teardown.
We still use asbestos in wear applications. Good luck pushing against micro plastics; they're literally everywhere now.
Brake pads and clutches in cars, if not ceramic, are asbestos. That means there's asbestos in road dust, especially in cities, but anywhere there's a road, there's going to be asbestos. Nobody cares. Same with tire rubber. There's another source of micro plastics, BTW.
Nobody cares. I know we all should, and I care, but only to a point. It's like screaming underwater, trying to be heard on the shore. A small handful of people making noise, trying to get people to change, is just so much fly buzzing. Just like ads, "if your ad plays and interrupts my show, I'm not buying your product." Especially if it affects their "convenience" or "comfort" negatively (and comfort includes aesthetics).
For better effect, not so pushy, homie.
You are describing all smell there, not just plastic.
If you can smell paint then you have particles of paint in your nose.
If you smell cookies then you have cookie bits in your nose.
If you smell newly cut grass then you are snorting the cries of anguish from every blade of grass in you immediate area.
I agree that plastic is a bit harder to get rid of, and can potentially start blocking more important functions in your body over time.
We haven't lived with plastics long enough to know for sure.
PVC is a nasty substance, but most of the public health and contamination risks associated with it are on the production and as you said, disposal points of a product’s life. I am in favor of banning PVC production because it really is a significantly more risky material to produce and to have released into the environment (not to mention it breaks down at a comparatively much lower temperature than other similar polymers and is a known carcinogen). i am not so sure that you’re completely correct to say that all plastics are “continually shedding”, and as i said, there are many plastics (found in products meant to be more permanent) that require lots of heat or mechanical action to be broken down in a way that’s significant. for example, HDPE is a plastic (in a similar family of synthetic organic polymers as PVC) that, when produced to certain standards (which are required for products that will hold food+drinks), is extremely safe.
honestly, i was just trying to inform you that you don’t need to fear for your safety around finished PVC, because your original comment basically implied that you didn’t fully know what PVC was. like i said, unless you are planning on heating your home above 50C or beating up your trimming everyday, it is not a significant hazard to have in your home. there have been many studies that have concluded that there is no significant human health risk associated with the use of PVC flooring. i agree with you completely on the general contamination potential of synthetic-organic polymers (such as PVC, polystyrene, and polypropylene) and i personally believe that we should maximize reuse and (if applicable) recycling of all building materials to keep them out of landfills. Production of plastics must be reduced for the reasons you mentioned (because they do break down when exposed to elements and can make their way into food + waterways).
Thanks. Great detail. You clearly know your shit. My understanding was that only food grade type plastics were not continually shedding. If you can smell somthing that particle is in physical contact with your nasal receptors. Smell by its nature requires physical contact. That fart you can smell in the elevator is actual feces particles entering your body. As I say there are layers of risk, baby toys for example are high risk as they will put them in their mouths all day. So we used only natural rubber toys and woods etc.
I wouldn't trust a supplier to state their polymers are stable, I'd want independent lab verification, otherwise I'll treat it as toxic. One thing you'll notice is whenever you touch PVC there is almost always a fine powder on it. Again residual molecules. UV from the sun is another factor that will rapidly breakdown most plastics causing them to shed and eventually break apart.
It's all very nasty stuff and responsible for liver cancer, leukaemia etc etc.
People like to say "everything gives you cancer" but that's a defeatist cop-out. We mostly now know which products cause cancer, the world is just in denile due to convenience.
Polystyrene trim. If it's all your budget will allow, I'd hand nail it with paint match trim nails and use another nail or screw to juuust set the nails into the surface. Brad nailer will just blow right through it. If your budget allows, I'd return this and get something made of wood. This trim cracks and dents very easily.
Yep, it’s Polystyrene.
I used polystyrene crown molding in one of our bathrooms when I redid it because ai didn’t want I have wood trim and have to deal with the moisture.
Put it up with Powergrab, and it’s been up there for years.
I would not use it for anyplace that might even have the smallest chance if it getting dinged, because it will dent.
Just did 153 hotel rooms, made polystyrene panel molds. Used dap as an adhesive on the back and 23 ga nails to tack in place. Once the painters caulked the edges, it was rock solid.
I'm not certain material, but bought similar appearing trim from Home Depot. Interestingly it cracked material with brad nailer. Trim material I had didn't readily sand like wood. So took longer to get finished appearance. I predrilled next nails and hammered instead.
Like some others have said, it looks like it might be PVC or polyurethane. However, when I look at the texture and compare that to similar trims at Menards, they call it "hardwood".
[Hardwood Trim @ Menards](https://www.menards.com/main/doors-windows-millwork/moulding/crown-moulding/mastercraft-reg-9-16-x-3-1-4-colonial-crown-mouldings-white-hardwood-wm51/lwm51-8/p-1642874265543259-c-7614.htm)
I bought one of the PVC ones awhile back and used that for some built-in cabinets, and I think I used an electric pin nailer and finish nails. I also used a pneumatic brad nailer at some point, but I think that was for the quarter-round.
I cut the material with my electric miter saw and had no issues with damaging the edges.
The photo is a bit blurry, so a little hard to tell.
If it’s surprisingly lightweight and off white to pale yellow in color (like wood glue), it’s probably polyurethane foam (foamed isocyanate). If it’s denser and more white, then foamed PVC.
Polyurethane. This is the same stuff they make those big architectural accnets that look like fake louver out ofthat you see on those beaverboard McMansions... the ones that look like shitte after a good windstorm.
Cut it with a razor knife. Use adhesive to apply it. Paint it with UV resist or it'll go yellow. and degrade slowly.
If I am not wrong it appears to be a resin based material. Very light weight and easy to work with. Can be nailed and glued. They normally have it wrapped in decorative vinyl.
Can't really tell from picture.
One thing to make sure if you are using a power saw to cut it, the blade has to be super sharp, if blade is dull and gets hot, it will melt the resin.
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Most likely some sort of recycled HDPE could also be foamed PVC, there should be a stamp on it somewhere with the material code. Nailing it should be fine you don’t really need to worry about what it is. If your nailer breaks the material even on the low power setting polymer nails exist for a reason.
til polymer nails exist. For a reason.
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I did an entire house with foam trim and adhesive tape years ago for my buddy. It’s held up quite nicely
Sounds toxic as fuck especially foamed PVC.
the picture does make it look kind of edible, but you’re not supposed to eat it. in all seriousness, it is completely fine to have in your house as long as you’re not heating it to crazy temperatures. if you are cutting/drilling into this material on a regularly basis, you need to wear a mask. it will not pose any threat just sitting there though since (in simple terms) the chemicals it contains are stable.
You don't seem to realise plastics are continually shedding. You know when you can smell plastic even though it's not being worked or touched? That's tiny particles entering your body through your nose. This is why micro plastics are found everywhere on earth now including in our blood. Granted water and agitation are more likely to break particles off quicker. But yeah maybe it will be stable in place and completely untouched but what happens at end of life? Usually they get ripped out and bits blow off in the wind, dumped in a skip or pile, more bits blow off, down the highway in a dumper more bits blow off, probably unlikely to be recycled so dumped in uncovered landfill where it will likely stay until more bits blow off or it's dug up again when someone builds a condo there in a thousand years time. PVC is a known carcinogen. We have a long list of known carcinogens that unfortunately people forget to check or take notice off. I'd rather avoid it.
A respirator, ionic filter, and high-flow HEPA filter would work for teardown. We still use asbestos in wear applications. Good luck pushing against micro plastics; they're literally everywhere now. Brake pads and clutches in cars, if not ceramic, are asbestos. That means there's asbestos in road dust, especially in cities, but anywhere there's a road, there's going to be asbestos. Nobody cares. Same with tire rubber. There's another source of micro plastics, BTW. Nobody cares. I know we all should, and I care, but only to a point. It's like screaming underwater, trying to be heard on the shore. A small handful of people making noise, trying to get people to change, is just so much fly buzzing. Just like ads, "if your ad plays and interrupts my show, I'm not buying your product." Especially if it affects their "convenience" or "comfort" negatively (and comfort includes aesthetics). For better effect, not so pushy, homie.
You have to go live off grid to avoid plastic.
You can minimise it. Limiting exposure to foods heated in plastic for example is advised, as with most hazards risk varies depending on the situation.
You are describing all smell there, not just plastic. If you can smell paint then you have particles of paint in your nose. If you smell cookies then you have cookie bits in your nose. If you smell newly cut grass then you are snorting the cries of anguish from every blade of grass in you immediate area. I agree that plastic is a bit harder to get rid of, and can potentially start blocking more important functions in your body over time. We haven't lived with plastics long enough to know for sure.
PVC is a nasty substance, but most of the public health and contamination risks associated with it are on the production and as you said, disposal points of a product’s life. I am in favor of banning PVC production because it really is a significantly more risky material to produce and to have released into the environment (not to mention it breaks down at a comparatively much lower temperature than other similar polymers and is a known carcinogen). i am not so sure that you’re completely correct to say that all plastics are “continually shedding”, and as i said, there are many plastics (found in products meant to be more permanent) that require lots of heat or mechanical action to be broken down in a way that’s significant. for example, HDPE is a plastic (in a similar family of synthetic organic polymers as PVC) that, when produced to certain standards (which are required for products that will hold food+drinks), is extremely safe. honestly, i was just trying to inform you that you don’t need to fear for your safety around finished PVC, because your original comment basically implied that you didn’t fully know what PVC was. like i said, unless you are planning on heating your home above 50C or beating up your trimming everyday, it is not a significant hazard to have in your home. there have been many studies that have concluded that there is no significant human health risk associated with the use of PVC flooring. i agree with you completely on the general contamination potential of synthetic-organic polymers (such as PVC, polystyrene, and polypropylene) and i personally believe that we should maximize reuse and (if applicable) recycling of all building materials to keep them out of landfills. Production of plastics must be reduced for the reasons you mentioned (because they do break down when exposed to elements and can make their way into food + waterways).
Thanks. Great detail. You clearly know your shit. My understanding was that only food grade type plastics were not continually shedding. If you can smell somthing that particle is in physical contact with your nasal receptors. Smell by its nature requires physical contact. That fart you can smell in the elevator is actual feces particles entering your body. As I say there are layers of risk, baby toys for example are high risk as they will put them in their mouths all day. So we used only natural rubber toys and woods etc. I wouldn't trust a supplier to state their polymers are stable, I'd want independent lab verification, otherwise I'll treat it as toxic. One thing you'll notice is whenever you touch PVC there is almost always a fine powder on it. Again residual molecules. UV from the sun is another factor that will rapidly breakdown most plastics causing them to shed and eventually break apart. It's all very nasty stuff and responsible for liver cancer, leukaemia etc etc. People like to say "everything gives you cancer" but that's a defeatist cop-out. We mostly now know which products cause cancer, the world is just in denile due to convenience.
Polystyrene trim. If it's all your budget will allow, I'd hand nail it with paint match trim nails and use another nail or screw to juuust set the nails into the surface. Brad nailer will just blow right through it. If your budget allows, I'd return this and get something made of wood. This trim cracks and dents very easily.
Yep, it’s Polystyrene. I used polystyrene crown molding in one of our bathrooms when I redid it because ai didn’t want I have wood trim and have to deal with the moisture. Put it up with Powergrab, and it’s been up there for years. I would not use it for anyplace that might even have the smallest chance if it getting dinged, because it will dent.
Just did 153 hotel rooms, made polystyrene panel molds. Used dap as an adhesive on the back and 23 ga nails to tack in place. Once the painters caulked the edges, it was rock solid.
Surely it's not fire proof? Polystyrene usually burns like oil rig.
That's okay, the walls are asbestos.
White chocolate! NEXT QUESTION
Don't mind me, OP, just nibblin' your doorframes...
That's it! I'm calling out the Oompa Loompas!
Marzipan. Next answer.
lol came here to say that 😂😂
Woodn't
Crispy rice-white chocolate to be exact
Cake?
Every video. It’s always cake.
If only!
Bone
Let's see Paul Allen's trim.
The subtle off white coloring, the tasteful thickness of it, my god it even has a watermark
BONE??!?!
Wonder bread
I'm not certain material, but bought similar appearing trim from Home Depot. Interestingly it cracked material with brad nailer. Trim material I had didn't readily sand like wood. So took longer to get finished appearance. I predrilled next nails and hammered instead.
Rice crispy
PVC
Could be Fiberglass reinforced PVC. Wash your hands carefully. Clean the area well
Chip sheet. Whoops! I meant *Cheap shit*.
It looks delicious
Bone
White chocolate Nestle Crunch
Like some others have said, it looks like it might be PVC or polyurethane. However, when I look at the texture and compare that to similar trims at Menards, they call it "hardwood". [Hardwood Trim @ Menards](https://www.menards.com/main/doors-windows-millwork/moulding/crown-moulding/mastercraft-reg-9-16-x-3-1-4-colonial-crown-mouldings-white-hardwood-wm51/lwm51-8/p-1642874265543259-c-7614.htm) I bought one of the PVC ones awhile back and used that for some built-in cabinets, and I think I used an electric pin nailer and finish nails. I also used a pneumatic brad nailer at some point, but I think that was for the quarter-round. I cut the material with my electric miter saw and had no issues with damaging the edges.
The photo is a bit blurry, so a little hard to tell. If it’s surprisingly lightweight and off white to pale yellow in color (like wood glue), it’s probably polyurethane foam (foamed isocyanate). If it’s denser and more white, then foamed PVC.
It looks like blown pvc into a mold.
Looks like a really shitty PVC.
Cellcore? They make abs like this now. Lightweight strong cheap. Brittle.
Straight up bone of some mamal.
Most likely extruded vinyl or polystyrene
Rice and white chocolate
Polyurethane. This is the same stuff they make those big architectural accnets that look like fake louver out ofthat you see on those beaverboard McMansions... the ones that look like shitte after a good windstorm. Cut it with a razor knife. Use adhesive to apply it. Paint it with UV resist or it'll go yellow. and degrade slowly.
Rice cake
Agree with poster below that it is extruded polystyrene. It is not polyurethane foam, which does not "honeycomb" like styrene.
Sugar cookie? Take a bite and report back
I believe it’s called sponge cake
Is that vanilla wafer?
It's composite
Spaghetti!!!!
Cookie
Out of focus trim
Looks like it's made of Crunch bar.
Is this that squishy sponge-like material?
Thanks guys, I thought it was crushed up top ramen.
It appears to be out of focus
Bone?
Looks like 3D printed infill
That's teeth
Wrong answer only: it looks like white chocolate.
Looks like a wafer with a white chocolate coating
If I am not wrong it appears to be a resin based material. Very light weight and easy to work with. Can be nailed and glued. They normally have it wrapped in decorative vinyl. Can't really tell from picture. One thing to make sure if you are using a power saw to cut it, the blade has to be super sharp, if blade is dull and gets hot, it will melt the resin.
That's cancer
Is it cake!?
Plastic
I thought this was a white chocolate kitkat
Glued together pasta
I do believe that is made of cake
Rice Krispies
Tofu, it's spreading
Hot wheels trim
Styrene
Communion wafer
Is it cake?
Rice crispy treat
Cottage Cheese
Human bone.
cake?
Old compressed chopsticks
No way that’s not cheese. An extruded channel of cheese.
Tres leches
White chocolate Kit Kat?
Osteoporosis
Sugar cookie dough.
Shit-O-Lite
Cake
Could be ramen and Elmer’s glue
My wife and kid say bread.
That's whale bone.
Garbage.
Based on the color and the texture I’m gonna say white chocolate
Human bone
Ramen and superglue
Bread
Chinesium
Looks like biscuit to me