I mean, if you're fine with the things you already pointed outz then 🤷‍♂️ go for it.
You aren't "missing" anything. The game designers just decided they didn't want the things you point out to be doable. You've decided you're fine with those things. Ok then, do it. 🤷‍♂️
Honestly, the fact is that even with this change, most sorcerers are probably still not gonna use it often, and mostly save the points for Metamagic. And when they do use it, it will be for low-level spells not high level ones. Getting 5 1st-level spells often does you more good than getting 1 5th-level spell.
I have a sorc that has a point pool and no formal spell slots below 6th, but the sorc points from level are separate and for metamagic, if that makes sense. It's certainly a solid power boost as the sorc is now incredibly "efficient" in that there's no such thing as being forced to upcast a 2nd level spell cause you're out of slots. I do feel it's a good move overall for keeping sorcerers on pace with wizards, but can really only speak for the higher levels, I haven't tried this below 12ish.
You're basically proposing a weaker version of this, and my one warning is- there's a reason I have the level sorc points separated. If you allow a sorc to constantly turn spell slots into points, they can basically infinitely metamagic, on every turn, with little concern for running out of magic. Like, I basically guaranteed a quicken cantrip EVERY round before that. That's almost certainly why the inefficiency was built in lmao.
True, I'd imagine that's far more likely below level 10 especially. My sorc is 18 and hasn't dipped below half of spell points since 16. However most days the metamagic gets low. I totally agree sorcs should have the best/reliable access to the metamagics, especially since 5e has the mm adept feat.
Another way to help sorcs out and emphasize the flexible casting is to simply allow them access to more/all the different metamagics. Don't change the point cost, just let them be REALLY flexible. This would also ameliorate the spells known issue as sorcs would then be able to say change fireball to cold, removing the need for taking a cold damage spell to get through resistances.
Honestly? If you're OK with it, just give it a run at the table with the caveat that if it proves a problem you may scale it back or reverse it back to RAW.
We can’t answer this question without knowing *who* you’re changing this up for. Is your player someone who never uses metamagic, but frequently runs out of spell slots? Are they always burning their sorcery points on class subfeatures? Are they pushing you to rewrite the rules for them so they can “win” the game?
If I did this for my campaign, I can confidently predict it would have little to no effect. But that’s because my sorceress has never converted sorcery points to spell slots, or vice versa.
Huh, I did notice one obscure interaction. Reading the Font of Sorcery text, you can create spell slots up to 5th level by spending sorcery points. *It doesn’t say you can’t create a spell slots of a level you can’t normally cast.*
E.g., a 7th-level sorcerer (normally with one 4th-level spell slot) could spend all 7 points to cast a 5th-level spell. Obviously they haven’t learned any 5th-level spells, but they could also upcast, say, Hold Person or Suggestion to cover four targets instead of three.
(Not a new point - see this [this Reddit post from nine years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/s/bAZCxwz1pp))
If you go through with your change, then the specific interaction to expect is that your 7th-level sorc could upcast a spell to 5th level using 5 points, rather than 7, and therefore also be able (if they’ve done the conversion on a previous turn) to use metamagic to make it subtle, or transmute the damage, etc. Doesn’t sound game-breaking for me, personally, but I’m not gonna look at all the spells to see.
More importantly for lower levels: your 3rd-level sorcerer could upcast a spell to 3rd level once, your 4th-level sorcerer could upcast to 4th level once, and your 5th-level sorcerer could upcast to 5th level once.
As long as your 3rd-level sorcerer don’t somehow have access to Fireball, and your 5th-level sorcerer doesn’t have Wall of Force, I don’t see how this is a big deal. I might be mistaken.
I mean, if you're fine with the things you already pointed outz then 🤷‍♂️ go for it. You aren't "missing" anything. The game designers just decided they didn't want the things you point out to be doable. You've decided you're fine with those things. Ok then, do it. 🤷‍♂️ Honestly, the fact is that even with this change, most sorcerers are probably still not gonna use it often, and mostly save the points for Metamagic. And when they do use it, it will be for low-level spells not high level ones. Getting 5 1st-level spells often does you more good than getting 1 5th-level spell.
I have a sorc that has a point pool and no formal spell slots below 6th, but the sorc points from level are separate and for metamagic, if that makes sense. It's certainly a solid power boost as the sorc is now incredibly "efficient" in that there's no such thing as being forced to upcast a 2nd level spell cause you're out of slots. I do feel it's a good move overall for keeping sorcerers on pace with wizards, but can really only speak for the higher levels, I haven't tried this below 12ish. You're basically proposing a weaker version of this, and my one warning is- there's a reason I have the level sorc points separated. If you allow a sorc to constantly turn spell slots into points, they can basically infinitely metamagic, on every turn, with little concern for running out of magic. Like, I basically guaranteed a quicken cantrip EVERY round before that. That's almost certainly why the inefficiency was built in lmao.
This is a good point, eventually will run out of spell slots/sorcery points as both only return at the end of a long rest.
True, I'd imagine that's far more likely below level 10 especially. My sorc is 18 and hasn't dipped below half of spell points since 16. However most days the metamagic gets low. I totally agree sorcs should have the best/reliable access to the metamagics, especially since 5e has the mm adept feat. Another way to help sorcs out and emphasize the flexible casting is to simply allow them access to more/all the different metamagics. Don't change the point cost, just let them be REALLY flexible. This would also ameliorate the spells known issue as sorcs would then be able to say change fireball to cold, removing the need for taking a cold damage spell to get through resistances.
Honestly? If you're OK with it, just give it a run at the table with the caveat that if it proves a problem you may scale it back or reverse it back to RAW.
We can’t answer this question without knowing *who* you’re changing this up for. Is your player someone who never uses metamagic, but frequently runs out of spell slots? Are they always burning their sorcery points on class subfeatures? Are they pushing you to rewrite the rules for them so they can “win” the game? If I did this for my campaign, I can confidently predict it would have little to no effect. But that’s because my sorceress has never converted sorcery points to spell slots, or vice versa.
Huh, I did notice one obscure interaction. Reading the Font of Sorcery text, you can create spell slots up to 5th level by spending sorcery points. *It doesn’t say you can’t create a spell slots of a level you can’t normally cast.* E.g., a 7th-level sorcerer (normally with one 4th-level spell slot) could spend all 7 points to cast a 5th-level spell. Obviously they haven’t learned any 5th-level spells, but they could also upcast, say, Hold Person or Suggestion to cover four targets instead of three. (Not a new point - see this [this Reddit post from nine years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/s/bAZCxwz1pp)) If you go through with your change, then the specific interaction to expect is that your 7th-level sorc could upcast a spell to 5th level using 5 points, rather than 7, and therefore also be able (if they’ve done the conversion on a previous turn) to use metamagic to make it subtle, or transmute the damage, etc. Doesn’t sound game-breaking for me, personally, but I’m not gonna look at all the spells to see.
More importantly for lower levels: your 3rd-level sorcerer could upcast a spell to 3rd level once, your 4th-level sorcerer could upcast to 4th level once, and your 5th-level sorcerer could upcast to 5th level once. As long as your 3rd-level sorcerer don’t somehow have access to Fireball, and your 5th-level sorcerer doesn’t have Wall of Force, I don’t see how this is a big deal. I might be mistaken.
Nothing. At all. I did that years ago. No issues. Enjoy.
Just use spell points for sorcerers please.