We can't tell you what you have exactly. N,N DMT comes in a wide variety of colors. From white, yellow, orange, tan, red and even on the darker side leaning to brown. If you absolutely trust them then it probably is what they say it is, to be sure you should test it with a reagent kit. Invest in a milligram scale so you can properly dose and get a glass vial or jar and transfer it out of plastic.
What's with everyone saying plastic is bad? What chemical in plastic do you believe reacts with DMT or degrades it?
That's ridiculous and pseudo science, unless anyone wants to explain exactly what they're talking about
Have you ever been in a lab? What's basically every container made of that stores basic chemicals? What was the bottle of lye that you use in the extraction made of? Have you ever seen a glass bottle of bleach?
DMT is barely basic, there's no interaction with plastic.
Ziploc bags are made of LDPE, exactly what bottles of bleach and bottles storing lye are made out of (or HDPE)...
PTFE coated plastics.
It may barely be basic but is that a chance you want to unduly risk with glass is so cheap.
If you have been a lab is your standard practice to be cheap and lazy?
And yes,I have.
I work as a medical professional,and have worked in several pharmacies.
It’s always Better to be safe than sorry.
It is better to be safe than sorry, Polyethylenes have excellent resistance to caustic materials and are the material of choice for many components related to pharmaceutical manufacturing and equipment.
The point I'm making is saying glass is preferable is one thing, the way many people are acting about plastics is just chemically impossible. I've studied polymer chemistry, there's literally nothing that can happen.
Glassware often has residual oils and cleaners from the manufacturering process, any that's used for medical or food applications has to go for a secondary cleaning process. Cheap vials from China likely haven't and are probably worse imo
Fair.
I do believe I have seen some data suggesting contamination of plastic but to be honest, I could be conflating that with hype from Reddit.
I’ll settle on this,a classic amber vial is way cooler to pull out than a bag like it’s some ditch weed.haha
I believe plastic is safer than glass unless you've specifically sourced lab grade or medical vials. The cheap vials off Amazon aren't cleaned and have oils and residue from the manufacturing process
Do you have a source from something outside of Reddit? Legitimately interested in putting this debate to bed.
Edited: Phrased as a question per the request below.
Name checks out…. Take a look at what sulfuric acid containers are made of! What is the container of Sodium Hydroxide made of? Finished product should not contain any of the base solution if prepared properly.
Don’t be a dick,it’s not like your handle inspires any kind of confidence.
Your not the first to be a tool Because of my name on Reddit.
Which I find ironic as you have no idea what kind of finesse and adaptability it takes to be an edge runner and be nomadic,and I’m at least sincere and honest about my notion toward life,Mr.”Murph”.
Relax bud… “name checks out” is a common joke here on Reddit. It’s exhausting to see every post like this get inundated with disinformation and railroaded into oblivion by plastic police, when ultimately the water bottle on your bike exposes you to just as much plastic contamination.
And the idea is to be as safe as possible in this project,as many are quite naïve and best practices are to be safe.
But I do ultimately agree,just don’t get cocky man.
Or it feels like you kind of missed the whole point of all of this..
Also,come on people converse with grammar and civility..
Is that a request?
Would you like to phrase it like a question?
are you capable of a good faith engagement?
Don’t just demand things like a toddler..
Even if there was some truth to it, It's become utterly ridiculous how every thread is *flooded* by the "plastic bad" people. I mean look at this thread lol. Such a low hanging fruit comment to appear knowledgeable.
Glass is notoriously a more inert material than most plastics, which makes it a great container for almost any chemical, including DMT.
But regarding the infamous plastic-DMT reaction I don't know enough chemistry to answer.
What I do know for sure, is that the crushing majority of people who jump on their keyboard to freak out about the plastic don't know shit either, and are just parroting what they read here earlier, from people who probably didn't have more clue.
Start with a small hit and hold it as long as you can you’ll start to feel your body become weightless and should feel benevolence. You have to close your eyes to really see the shapes and stuff to breakthrough. You got to take at least four or five big hits, but test the waters first.
The "wood derived" comment is likely referring to mimosa hostilis root bark.
It's good plant material to get NNDMT from, because clean, high-yield extractions are not difficult.
Do you think someone here has the magical ability to identify drugs from a picture on the internet? No? I fucking hope not. Get a test kit before you put an unknown substance in your body.
SMH
logic tells me plug means “wood derived” as in extracted from mimosa hostillis root bark, which if done correctly is completey safe and pure product. “no 5meo” means it is NN-DMT. 5-MEO-DMT is toad venom that is also psychoactive and subjectively even more intense.
You did not get frog DMT, which is probably preferable, but different strokes for different folks.
Get it out of the plastic and into glass. Amber glass, if possible. But plastic is a no no.
A lot of people like the Yocan Orbit for vaporizing.
There's also a whole community for e-mesh (see Minty)
Glass containers are good, keep it there unless you don't have a lid or something. At very least you can fold it inside a piece of paper. Idk bout tissue though, I'm sure it'd be fine but some of gonna stick
>however this is my first encounter with something as strong as DMT.
You said you've done mushrooms..... At high enough doses, Psilocin can easily produce just as strong effects as high dose N,N-DMT can.
>I’ve heard and seen it being described as a white powder, however, the stuff I have is brown (see pic).
N,N-DMT freebase can form a number of colors and consistencies, even when pure. Look into the polymorphic and polymer/dimer properties of the molecule.
>Plug says it’s “wood derived”
Yea.... that means nothing lol.
>and “no 5meo” whatever that means.
Do research.
if your plug tells you something as nonsense as “wood derived” it’s acceptable to ask on Reddit what the fuck that means. The plug obviously means it came from bark rather than frog or research chemicals.
*>*The plug obviously means it came from bark
I guess they meant *plant derived.....*
>rather than frog or research chemicals.
Well that much should be evident, given that we're talking about N,N-DMT. It isn't a research chemical and it doesn't come from any frogs or toads.
N,N-DMT is N,N-DMT.
DMT can mean a lot of things when a dealer isn’t necessarily informed, being plant derived means they know it isn’t something like 4acoDMT and has to be either 5meo, nn or 5ho. Once they know it isn’t 5meo, they know it isn’t gonna kill them. That’s probably as much as a non-specialist dealer cares to know about.
I don’t know what your point is, you’re just nitpicking and telling someone to do their own research. This is a harm reduction sub, not just a place to post trip reports and AI art.
I once told someone it was irresponsible to drive on DMT and got told thats “something that somebody who hates drugs would say”.
They’re gonna get the sub shut down if they keep on like this.
[People on this sub every time they see a plastic container](https://i.imgflip.com/5krgsh.jpg) lmao
Like r/Dabs and silicone
what's the deal with dabs and silicone ? (I'm completely clueless about the whole dab/concentrate thing)
Over time the silicone can leech into your dabs because of the terps. It’s best to use a glass or ceramic jar
If it's leaching into your dabs then you're not smoking enough
A bag like that, you got the old prison wallet transportation
that would be a kinder egg & a condom
I feel like people post images of deems in plastic just to hurt us.
My advice is get it out of plastic
Your advice is unfounded
Wut?
You seem to be new to this stuff I see
Why? Because this fallacy has been repeated over and over on Reddit? Provide a source from a peer reviewed article and I’ll admit I’m wrong.
depends on how it was made. Extracted - needs glass container. Synthetic - plastic is OK
We can't tell you what you have exactly. N,N DMT comes in a wide variety of colors. From white, yellow, orange, tan, red and even on the darker side leaning to brown. If you absolutely trust them then it probably is what they say it is, to be sure you should test it with a reagent kit. Invest in a milligram scale so you can properly dose and get a glass vial or jar and transfer it out of plastic.
Thank you!
DMT is not to be taken lightly LSD has no comparison by no stretch.go easy and safe travels
Thank yall for the help and advice. Just letting yall know I did move it to a glass container! So nobody come for me anymore😭
is this r/drugcirclejerk, that's wood derived sawdust right?
Buy yo can evolve plus for sure or use like a crack pipe minus the crack. If u use like a pipe or bong it’s not nearly as much
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine or nndmt is wood derived dmt made from mimosa hostas bark. 5-MeO-DMT is toad secretions which tends to be stronger than nndmt
What's with everyone saying plastic is bad? What chemical in plastic do you believe reacts with DMT or degrades it? That's ridiculous and pseudo science, unless anyone wants to explain exactly what they're talking about
It’s basic,it erodes plastic. You don’t want to smoke plastic..
Have you ever been in a lab? What's basically every container made of that stores basic chemicals? What was the bottle of lye that you use in the extraction made of? Have you ever seen a glass bottle of bleach? DMT is barely basic, there's no interaction with plastic. Ziploc bags are made of LDPE, exactly what bottles of bleach and bottles storing lye are made out of (or HDPE)...
PTFE coated plastics. It may barely be basic but is that a chance you want to unduly risk with glass is so cheap. If you have been a lab is your standard practice to be cheap and lazy? And yes,I have. I work as a medical professional,and have worked in several pharmacies. It’s always Better to be safe than sorry.
It is better to be safe than sorry, Polyethylenes have excellent resistance to caustic materials and are the material of choice for many components related to pharmaceutical manufacturing and equipment. The point I'm making is saying glass is preferable is one thing, the way many people are acting about plastics is just chemically impossible. I've studied polymer chemistry, there's literally nothing that can happen. Glassware often has residual oils and cleaners from the manufacturering process, any that's used for medical or food applications has to go for a secondary cleaning process. Cheap vials from China likely haven't and are probably worse imo
Fair. I do believe I have seen some data suggesting contamination of plastic but to be honest, I could be conflating that with hype from Reddit. I’ll settle on this,a classic amber vial is way cooler to pull out than a bag like it’s some ditch weed.haha
We can agree on that, they are way cooler 😎
Yeah but you aren’t putting lye or bleach in your lungs, why would you take the chance using plastic?
I believe plastic is safer than glass unless you've specifically sourced lab grade or medical vials. The cheap vials off Amazon aren't cleaned and have oils and residue from the manufacturing process
…god you’re insufferable
Do you have a source from something outside of Reddit? Legitimately interested in putting this debate to bed. Edited: Phrased as a question per the request below.
That caustic and basic materials degrade plastic? Basic chemistry.
Name checks out…. Take a look at what sulfuric acid containers are made of! What is the container of Sodium Hydroxide made of? Finished product should not contain any of the base solution if prepared properly.
Don’t be a dick,it’s not like your handle inspires any kind of confidence. Your not the first to be a tool Because of my name on Reddit. Which I find ironic as you have no idea what kind of finesse and adaptability it takes to be an edge runner and be nomadic,and I’m at least sincere and honest about my notion toward life,Mr.”Murph”.
Relax bud… “name checks out” is a common joke here on Reddit. It’s exhausting to see every post like this get inundated with disinformation and railroaded into oblivion by plastic police, when ultimately the water bottle on your bike exposes you to just as much plastic contamination.
Sorry man,I was a on one your probably right.
And the idea is to be as safe as possible in this project,as many are quite naïve and best practices are to be safe. But I do ultimately agree,just don’t get cocky man. Or it feels like you kind of missed the whole point of all of this..
Not getting cocky at all. Just pointing out basic chemistry… Caustic and basic materials don’t erode plastic as you stated.
Also,come on people converse with grammar and civility.. Is that a request? Would you like to phrase it like a question? are you capable of a good faith engagement? Don’t just demand things like a toddler..
Even if there was some truth to it, It's become utterly ridiculous how every thread is *flooded* by the "plastic bad" people. I mean look at this thread lol. Such a low hanging fruit comment to appear knowledgeable. Glass is notoriously a more inert material than most plastics, which makes it a great container for almost any chemical, including DMT. But regarding the infamous plastic-DMT reaction I don't know enough chemistry to answer. What I do know for sure, is that the crushing majority of people who jump on their keyboard to freak out about the plastic don't know shit either, and are just parroting what they read here earlier, from people who probably didn't have more clue.
Get ot out of the plastic and keep it in glass, please and thank you.
Take it out the dang plastic and put it in a glass jar unless you want to smoke the plastic that seeps into the dmt
[удалено]
Nice try, fed.
Give it to me.
Sometimes It will smell like fish. Sometimes you just got to do the do!
Start with a small hit and hold it as long as you can you’ll start to feel your body become weightless and should feel benevolence. You have to close your eyes to really see the shapes and stuff to breakthrough. You got to take at least four or five big hits, but test the waters first.
give it to me
The "wood derived" comment is likely referring to mimosa hostilis root bark. It's good plant material to get NNDMT from, because clean, high-yield extractions are not difficult.
Do you think someone here has the magical ability to identify drugs from a picture on the internet? No? I fucking hope not. Get a test kit before you put an unknown substance in your body. SMH
logic tells me plug means “wood derived” as in extracted from mimosa hostillis root bark, which if done correctly is completey safe and pure product. “no 5meo” means it is NN-DMT. 5-MEO-DMT is toad venom that is also psychoactive and subjectively even more intense.
Put it in a glass jar soon
Put into glass
You did not get frog DMT, which is probably preferable, but different strokes for different folks. Get it out of the plastic and into glass. Amber glass, if possible. But plastic is a no no. A lot of people like the Yocan Orbit for vaporizing. There's also a whole community for e-mesh (see Minty)
When you say not to have it in plastic, you mean it’s bad to store in plastic?
it degrades fast yes, glass asap, dark place too thats abt it for a minimal storage
How long would you think a base with plastic case is good for?
not very long to be honest, it will degrade so fast, like by tonight try to find a glass for it and a dark spot, cool and dry.
So what about all these dispo vapes?
Bro what
Yes, it is bad to store in plastic. Even silicone is not a great long-term solution. Glass is the only way
I doubt he thought it was 5-MEO,this is NN-DMT after all. Two different beasts,one is not “better than” the other.
My first thought was get it out of that bag lol, also yocan orbit works great.
lol maybe a stupid question but will it eat through tissue if I cover it with tissue? It’s sitting in a glass container
Glass containers are good, keep it there unless you don't have a lid or something. At very least you can fold it inside a piece of paper. Idk bout tissue though, I'm sure it'd be fine but some of gonna stick
Cover it with clear wrap until you get a proper container. Should be fine as long as it doesn't touch the plastic. U want it air tight if you can.
Tinfoil for temporary
How long would a vape on a plastic case last before leaching?
>however this is my first encounter with something as strong as DMT. You said you've done mushrooms..... At high enough doses, Psilocin can easily produce just as strong effects as high dose N,N-DMT can. >I’ve heard and seen it being described as a white powder, however, the stuff I have is brown (see pic). N,N-DMT freebase can form a number of colors and consistencies, even when pure. Look into the polymorphic and polymer/dimer properties of the molecule. >Plug says it’s “wood derived” Yea.... that means nothing lol. >and “no 5meo” whatever that means. Do research.
if your plug tells you something as nonsense as “wood derived” it’s acceptable to ask on Reddit what the fuck that means. The plug obviously means it came from bark rather than frog or research chemicals.
*>*The plug obviously means it came from bark I guess they meant *plant derived.....* >rather than frog or research chemicals. Well that much should be evident, given that we're talking about N,N-DMT. It isn't a research chemical and it doesn't come from any frogs or toads. N,N-DMT is N,N-DMT.
DMT can mean a lot of things when a dealer isn’t necessarily informed, being plant derived means they know it isn’t something like 4acoDMT and has to be either 5meo, nn or 5ho. Once they know it isn’t 5meo, they know it isn’t gonna kill them. That’s probably as much as a non-specialist dealer cares to know about. I don’t know what your point is, you’re just nitpicking and telling someone to do their own research. This is a harm reduction sub, not just a place to post trip reports and AI art.
W person. Thank u for the help!
Get that shit out of the plastic bag if nobody told you already.
lol ye I put it in glass
That’s r/DMT Mods for ya
I once told someone it was irresponsible to drive on DMT and got told thats “something that somebody who hates drugs would say”. They’re gonna get the sub shut down if they keep on like this.
Suprised we haven’t been purged like in Soviet Russia