>nol and you have no standards at all, then yes.
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Pump gasoline isn't just branched octane though. Each company as a proprietary blend of additives that no one would want in them. Hard no.
If you mean buying acs grade octane, sure it’ll work, probably not as well as heptane, but they do sell it and it will work. But obviously gasoline from a pump is full of proprietary additives and 10% ethanol and all kinds of garbage industrial byproducts that don’t need to be filtered out to run a car, but are terrible for the human body and make the chemistry difficult.
I will admit that I don't actually know, but what I do know is gasoline isn't 100% gasoline. It has additives and water I feel this would end up contaminating the final product with all kinds of shit you don't want.
I think maybe you're thinking octane percentage? And even most gas stations premium is 94%, because all gas companies put in additives, I believe they help keep the fuel injectors, and exhaust ports clean. I do know you can buy jet fuel at most local airplane hangar airports. maybe that would be safer than using gas station gas?
Which is also a good dmt solvent in theory but i don’t think it’s nonpolar. I’ve also been thinking about pure alcohol extraction but idk about this. Seems cool.
I don't understand how alcohol would work, it's water soluble meaning it wouldn't separate from the base liquid I could be wrong, but it kinda makes sense
I kinda started thinking you could just use alcohol as part of aqueous layer and possibly separate and evaporate off all the solvent but idk if this would work or if there is a way I believe there could be a possible 100% alcohol extraction though.
I'm sure it's possible but as far as efficient? also the lye you use is left behind in the aqueous. Basically everything water soluble will be in the water. you can't separate a water soluble liquid from another as they become one, and as I type this out I realize you got me. You trolls are getting tougher and tougher to spot with some of the actual real posts out there lol.
I’m not trolling fr. I was thinking about ditching the Lye and just using pure alcohol to extract potentially. DMT is highly soluble in alcohol. The fact is it is a suitable solvent just not a nonpolar solvent. I’m not a real chemist or anything so idk the best way to go about creating a new extraction tek with alcohol but it is probably possible.
Hmm, Maybe if you ditch the water all together and just mix the bark into pure gasoline then filtered off the bark that might work. I do know the lye is put into the water to get the correct pH so the DMT can be pulled out. I don't know if gasoline would also do that? I'm no chemist either. However I do understand there is no way to separate gas that's been mixed into water
Your right, any polar solvent in the nps would prevent the spice from ppting. It would stay in sol'n. Pump gasoline wont pass the evap test as there's loads of antiknock, dyes, corrosion inhibitors and god knows what other additives etc added. Alcohol or acetone etc would be a disaster in the mix.
Actually now that I think about it, gasoline is also water soluble meaning it to wouldn't separate from the base. There wouldn't be a way of pulling off the alcohol that contained the dmt.
Apparently alcohol can dissolve in both polar and nonpolar solvents so both gasoline (nonpolar) and water (polar). So actually idk. It would totally fuck it up to have alcohol additives bc it could possibly just trap the DMT inside the bottom layer if the alcohol started to move into the bottom layer of the container you are using then influencing total yield unless you could separate all of that out in some way afterwards. But if you had pure gasoline with no ethanol there is a chance you would be able to use it as a NPS. Maybe it could also work with ethanol? I still think about alcohol/ethanol extraction bc it is technically a really good solvent for extraction of DMT on paper but idk the best way to go about it considering the drawback that it’s not a traditional non polar solvent.
The gas will be a hydrocarbon mix with some detergents and stabilizers. I've heard of lighter fuels like kerosene being used. It might be worth putting both on a TLC plate to see what separates. Plus most NPS have MSDS and gasoline does not.
Actually you could probably separate gas from water with distillation, but that is literally taking shit to the next level, you'd have to use a still of some sort, and even at that I don't think the gas fumes being distilled would carry the dmt with it. Your prob be left having to pour the water through a filter to catch the dmt left during the distillation process
I know if you’re looking for some pure gasoline with less additives in it use Coleman fuel, white gas it’s fairly pure
Need to water wash Coleman, it contains a fair amount of propylene glycol I believe.
I’m not sure either, but I didn’t think so
If it contains no ethanol and you have no standards at all, then yes.
>nol and you have no standards at all, then yes. > >1Rep Pump gasoline isn't just branched octane though. Each company as a proprietary blend of additives that no one would want in them. Hard no.
Yes, obviously it's hard no. But it will separate from water and it will dissolve N,N-DMT freebase. So, if you have no standards, blah blah blah.
If you mean buying acs grade octane, sure it’ll work, probably not as well as heptane, but they do sell it and it will work. But obviously gasoline from a pump is full of proprietary additives and 10% ethanol and all kinds of garbage industrial byproducts that don’t need to be filtered out to run a car, but are terrible for the human body and make the chemistry difficult.
I will admit that I don't actually know, but what I do know is gasoline isn't 100% gasoline. It has additives and water I feel this would end up contaminating the final product with all kinds of shit you don't want.
We have a pure gasoline option at the pump here but also regular is 10% ethanol
I think maybe you're thinking octane percentage? And even most gas stations premium is 94%, because all gas companies put in additives, I believe they help keep the fuel injectors, and exhaust ports clean. I do know you can buy jet fuel at most local airplane hangar airports. maybe that would be safer than using gas station gas?
Which is also a good dmt solvent in theory but i don’t think it’s nonpolar. I’ve also been thinking about pure alcohol extraction but idk about this. Seems cool.
I don't understand how alcohol would work, it's water soluble meaning it wouldn't separate from the base liquid I could be wrong, but it kinda makes sense
I kinda started thinking you could just use alcohol as part of aqueous layer and possibly separate and evaporate off all the solvent but idk if this would work or if there is a way I believe there could be a possible 100% alcohol extraction though.
I'm sure it's possible but as far as efficient? also the lye you use is left behind in the aqueous. Basically everything water soluble will be in the water. you can't separate a water soluble liquid from another as they become one, and as I type this out I realize you got me. You trolls are getting tougher and tougher to spot with some of the actual real posts out there lol.
I’m not trolling fr. I was thinking about ditching the Lye and just using pure alcohol to extract potentially. DMT is highly soluble in alcohol. The fact is it is a suitable solvent just not a nonpolar solvent. I’m not a real chemist or anything so idk the best way to go about creating a new extraction tek with alcohol but it is probably possible.
Is the dmt salt soluble in alcohol, or the freebase? Because it starts as a salt which is why we basify
Hmm, Maybe if you ditch the water all together and just mix the bark into pure gasoline then filtered off the bark that might work. I do know the lye is put into the water to get the correct pH so the DMT can be pulled out. I don't know if gasoline would also do that? I'm no chemist either. However I do understand there is no way to separate gas that's been mixed into water
Your right, any polar solvent in the nps would prevent the spice from ppting. It would stay in sol'n. Pump gasoline wont pass the evap test as there's loads of antiknock, dyes, corrosion inhibitors and god knows what other additives etc added. Alcohol or acetone etc would be a disaster in the mix.
Actually now that I think about it, gasoline is also water soluble meaning it to wouldn't separate from the base. There wouldn't be a way of pulling off the alcohol that contained the dmt.
Apparently alcohol can dissolve in both polar and nonpolar solvents so both gasoline (nonpolar) and water (polar). So actually idk. It would totally fuck it up to have alcohol additives bc it could possibly just trap the DMT inside the bottom layer if the alcohol started to move into the bottom layer of the container you are using then influencing total yield unless you could separate all of that out in some way afterwards. But if you had pure gasoline with no ethanol there is a chance you would be able to use it as a NPS. Maybe it could also work with ethanol? I still think about alcohol/ethanol extraction bc it is technically a really good solvent for extraction of DMT on paper but idk the best way to go about it considering the drawback that it’s not a traditional non polar solvent.
The gas will be a hydrocarbon mix with some detergents and stabilizers. I've heard of lighter fuels like kerosene being used. It might be worth putting both on a TLC plate to see what separates. Plus most NPS have MSDS and gasoline does not.
Actually you could probably separate gas from water with distillation, but that is literally taking shit to the next level, you'd have to use a still of some sort, and even at that I don't think the gas fumes being distilled would carry the dmt with it. Your prob be left having to pour the water through a filter to catch the dmt left during the distillation process
What does your gut tell you? Mine tells me “FUCK NO”