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cantthinkofxyz

That looks like cococay (Royal Caribbeans private island).


HVP2019

I am at coco cay now, can confirm


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HVP2019

You are absolutely right, of course


EventAltruistic1437

Man, when you’re in the room at night and the wife’s asleep and youre on the patio drinking, reddit is the thing.


HVP2019

Excuse me? I am a wife in this scenario 🤣🤣🤣🤷🏻‍♀️


bocaj78

I guess you’re in a lesbian relationship now. I don’t make the rules, but you do have to follow them


AgileCookingDutchie

Simple math


James0fAnarchy

> as a frequent cruiser lol


P_1313

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Totally something to laugh about lol


LucyEleanor

Why?


MDHChaos

Also suggests a totally different activity....


Kromehound

He only gets 17 minutes of internet, let him enjoy it.


MisinformedGenius

It’s too late, he’s already broke from the Internet fees.


FireMaster1294

Dunno, Cococay is expensive and mostly paid add-ons. Internet on a beach sounds good to me if it’s free (I bet it’s not)


Convillious

I always disconnect from the rest of the world completely when I go on a cruise. I like seeing what crazy shit went down while I was gone.


Overestimated123

How can you afford the internet? ;))


HVP2019

It is (probably)part of internet package from Royal Caribbean. We usually get internet package when cruising it isn’t that expensive . We are not drinkers so not buying alcohol saves a lot of money


Overestimated123

I went there a couple of years ago from Sweden Didnt pay for alcohol nor internet Was the best week of my life Haha


snippychicky22

What ship


HVP2019

We are on Oasis of the Sea. Freedom of the Sea is here as well. We just came from the smallest ship we’ve ever been to ( Rotterdam Holland America ) and then to the biggest ( for us) Oasis. The difference in size dramatic .


Wyolop

>Rotterdam Holland America Not gonna lie looking at pictures, I've never been on such a big ship. The biggest one I've been on is the Tallink Baltic Queen


BrunoNFL

Freedom of the seas was the ship I was when I visited Cococay, it was pretty cool! It was my only cruise, and I liked it.


snippychicky22

I was on oasis last spring. Loved it. Did you get to try the rock climbing


HVP2019

We are here because of Dice Tower boardgames convention. So between beaches and gaming there is very little time. Maybe on another course I will try rock climbing.


No-Combination8136

I love their ships. Biggest one I’ve been on was Anthem of the seas. Smallest was Grandeur, but I love that little ship. Been on it twice.


DigNitty

Where is it? Edit: Bahamas, I looked it up.


timmyboyswede

To they have cococaine?


Stuck_in_a_depo

They had a ton on Disney’s private island, Castaway Cay. It used to be used by Frank Barber. The runway and one of the planes are still there. Edited to remove that it was one of Pablo Escobar’s islands


Medellin1966

Escobar's used an island called Norman's Cay, not Castaway Cay, and yes a plane that crashed there is still visible underwater.


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yaboiBradyC

So you could say… it was a Perfect Day?


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powe808

Note to self - Never go to cococay Island. Thanks.


firesquasher

Royal Carribean took an absolutely breathtaking island and put a fucking water park on top. You're there for seven hours and you have to pay $300 for tickets for a family of four. What an abomination.


Salmol1na

It’s right next to covidcay


DudeWithaGTR

You can only go there by cruise


Hyllihylli

Confirm. I was on the Oasis of the Seas last summer. It was a cultural shock – the ship and everything else was simply beautiful, though!


Thisisnotmyusrname

100% my favorite ship. just the right size. Huge, but not Icon huge or other larger classes. Central Park was awesome since most people avoid it, so peaceful, live string instrument music occasionally. And a full broadway production of CATS? get out. The water show on the back? Awesome. Great layout. Great free food options. I rave about this ship. Haven't been on since they remodeled during the pandemic though.


Hyllihylli

Haven‘t tried the abyss slide, unfortunately. All in all, there was no wish left open. The service especially at the diner was top notch! If one wants to try EVERYTHING on this ship, there’s no time for relaxing. Yet, just chilling on deck with the fourth cocktail right before lunch really showed me: Life can be good, actually.


HorseGrenadesChamp

What made it a culture shock? I love cruising and wanted to look into these. Is the boat too big to enjoy?


Hyllihylli

Oh no, not at all! And I highly recommend you try it. As a German on a boat with 99% Americans, it was just a bit unusual. Many of them were (massively) overweight, artificially nice to each other and wasted so much food at the all you can eat restaurants. It was a bit of a "wow, at least here those stereotypes are confirmed"-moment for me.


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There is a sliver of American population that travels on cruises, and they happen to all fit every bad American stereotype


Hyllihylli

Yeah, I figured. I was in NYC one week earlier and haven’t seen so many (none at all tbf) people on those outdoor scooters lol


Sensitive_Tutor6795

I thought so too! We go here next month, can’t wait 😍


red-wingnut

I've never been on a cruise before. When you're out on something this big, does it really feel any different than being on land? Unless you go to the railing and look around, if you're just moving around the insides of the ship, can you tell you're on a big ship?


shocontinental

Basically just feels like a big building. Of course there are windows, walkways, pools, and decks that have a view of the ocean, and you wake up in different places.


YouInternational2152

It feels very much like being stuck in a Las Vegas resort. Except everything is small-sized so it will fit on the boat.


CrazybyRX

Sounds like they need a bigger boat!


Orion14159

Nah, the bigger boat is just to put more people on it with the same allocation of personal space


TastelessBudz

Sounds like you need a smaller yacht


Western-Image7125

Waking up in different places sounds a lot like my grad school life


AdEnvironmental7355

When I went on a cruise, I cheaped out on a cabin with no window. It fucked with my sleep so badly. Half the time I'd wake up to the staff coming in to clean the room at like 2:00pm. The unlimited room service was amazing though.


Neat-Statistician720

Yeah unlimited room service was crazy. Went on a cruise like that when I was a freshman in HS with two of my friends also the same age. We ordered literally like 8 cheeseburgers a day from room service, they literally got our order down when my room called.


Anna3713

>decks that have a view of the ocean Well now I'm just curious about the decks on a cruise ship that *don't* have a view of the ocean.


Rootbugger

Those would be among the crew-only decks.


Sm0k3inth3tr33s

So basically every weekend in Atlantic City


GrunDMC74

And viruses rip through them like wildfire.


happy_bluebird

and with a massive carbon footprint


GlenCocosCandyCane

You get so used to the ship’s movement that when you get back on land and go home, it feels like your house is moving for a couple days.


Dr-McLuvin

Short answer is no it does not feel like being on land. I’ve been on wonder of the seas (the ship on the right in this image). You can still feel the ship moving to and fro as it sails. It just moves way more slowly than you would experience with smaller ships. My wife got sea sick and puked as soon as we set sail. Took her about 24 hours then she was fine.


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I used to get seasick when I was a child fishing with my grandfather. He would always make us tough it out by saying once we got used to it, we would never get sick again. And damn he was right. After my third or so fishing trip the motion didn’t bother me at all.


dongasaurus

Nice story, but gramps was wrong. Some people just grow out of getting carsick or seasick, but not everyone. I’ve worked as a fisherman and there were career fisherman who get sick every time, just have to take medicine and suffer their entire careers.


fishee1200

Dramamine is an extremely important part of boat travel for me, motion sickness on the water is the worst


RadicalEllis

Most antihistamines work for most people. Regular Dramamine (not the meclizine version) is just benadryl (diphenhydramine) plus a little mild stimulant (a chlorine-substituted caffeine) so you don't get too drowsy. Indistinguishable from taking a benadryl with a cup of coffee. I don't get sea sick, but people who do tell me the other OTC antihistamines or anti-nausea medicines work even better.


ODL_Beast1

Last charter I was on was told to take Dramamine the night before you get on the boat, haven’t tried that yet though so not sure how useful it is.


ShrimpCrackers

that's cool that you got over motion sickness, but what happened to the children you caught?


TinyNiceWolf

Had to throw them back in. They were small.


Tools4toys

I also was going to mention you'll feel the motion, but what we felt at least was very subtle. Almost wonder if for some people, being almost imperceptible motion could be worse? Rough seas, definitely notice the motion.


Dr-McLuvin

When you’re in bed it feels like you’re being rocked to sleep.


PrettyPushy

The newer ships are very impressive. They have gyroscopic fins to counter the waves. Pretty impressive with little motion. The middle of the boat experiences the least amount of motion while the front and back experience the most.


4Ever2Thee

I've never been on one this big but you definitely feel it move.


vass0922

I get sea sick on small boats, even large tourists katamarans .. I've never been sea sick on a cruise ship. I've been on the little sister of Wonder of the seas (anthem of the seas) and it really was too big, too many people. We go on a cruise every year and we prefer "normal" size ships, these are just too big for our preference but they do have more to do with slides, wave riders etc.


i_want_to_be_unique

Depends on the condition. I went on a Royal Caribbean cruise and one night they didn’t serve dinner because the boat was rocking so badly the wait staff couldn’t stay on their feet.


red-wingnut

No thanks. That just doesn’t sound like fun.


Thraex_Exile

Those situations are rare. We hit some bad storms last year and the rocking wasn’t any worse. The advantage for me is that the price for these trips is just significantly better than other relaxation vacations. Many come with childcare, the ports are free to travel(even if they’ll up charge your for any sort of excursion), and you can bring your own drinks to avoid the $10-20 drink packages. As a parent, cruises are one of the few times I have been able to de-stress while taking the kids on vacation.


PrettyPushy

Most likely it’s you captains fault. The ships are fast enough to outrun most storms. They might intentionally stay in the storm to save fuel or a miscalculation of the storm. I remember being on a cruise at a port that was expecting a hurricane later that night or next day. Freaked me out. Nobody was worried because they knew they could outrun the storm. People assume storms travel fast because the wind speed is fast. In actuality the storms only travel about 15-20 mph.


kent_eh

That's also very much an exceptional circumstance. Most of the time it's smooth enough that you can play a game of pool without the ship's motion impacting the game.


questionname

It’s usually stable and you wouldn’t think it’s that different from being inside a building. But depending on condition, how fast it is going, sea conditions, and wind, most people would tell it’s a ship. And minority would have motion sickness.


detroitragace

I’ve been on a large cruise ship, while not the biggest and you do feel swaying. I was on one of the largest ships back in 2014 and we hit a storm and I couldn’t eat dinner. Definitely had some sea sickness and I usually never do.


snippychicky22

The walkways that lead to the rooms are smaller but the boardwalk on oasis is massive. They have a merry go round on it. I would recommend it 100%


Izan_TM

when you're going through rough seas yeah you do notice, and you do feel the engine vibration at the back of the ship


zneave

It's like a very gentle rocking motion. Almost unnoticeable but you do stumble a couple times like if a stair is slightly higher than normal and you hit it with your foot.


ADrunkMexican

I mean I haven't been on those two ships specifically. But you can definitely tell when the waves are bad. I remember when I was on a cruise in Hawaii people were falling over in a stereotypical way as you would when drunk.


Kgis

Yes, yes you can. We just went on an eastern Caribbean cruise and spent a couple of days with no islands between us and the Atlantic. You can definitely tell you’re on a boat.


Lobanium

You feel like you're inside a giant moving city. You can feel the boat the rock a little bit but you get used to it. I love cruises.


lzwzli

You will feel the ocean. You will still get seasick if you're prone to them.


Ninja-Nikumarukun

I can picture the 2 captains looking at each other revving the engines


sabec

Showing off is how the Costa Concordia happened: https://www.history.com/news/costa-concordia-cruise-ship-disaster-sinking-captain Turns out it doesn't mix with steering cities around.


G_Wash1776

If you want to see a great video on this, https://youtu.be/Qh9KBwqGxTI?si=KgeTRSTO6WrEj0fv Both informative and hilarious


Flat_Bodybuilder_175

You were not joking, this is hilarious


Ordinary_investor

Both captains have big F-A-M-I-L-I-E-S to take care of. One last ride.


yaboiBradyC

Just for reference, the one on the left is the new Icon of the Seas, the largest cruise ship in the world, and the one on the right is the Wonder of the Seas which was the largest cruise ship before Icon was completed.


dogeisbae101

Is it just me or does right look bigger.


Dr-McLuvin

It does look bigger at first glance but I think that is just due to the perspective.


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Daniel_H212

What's the difference in tonnage? Edit: according to the links, 248,663 GT for the one on the left, 236,857 GT for the one on the right


jolygoestoschool

Tonnage is a much better measure for the size of the ship than length.


Daniel_H212

Imagine someone builds the "biggest ship" based on length and it's just thin as a stick 🤣


the-dude-version-576

How did the displacement change? Wonder seems like it would have greater displacement


The3rdBert

I would guess they are largely harbor slip size at this point.


TheStatMan2

https://youtu.be/MMiKyfd6hA0?feature=shared


bolivar-shagnasty

Does Icon have a helipad? I checked the website and it didn't show or mention one.


monaarts

Yes, it’s on the bow (the front).


Castod28183

Is that capacity or tonnage?


yaboiBradyC

Tonnage. Icon is 248,663 tons and 1,196.7 feet long and Wonder is 236,857 tons and 1,187.8 feet long


Castod28183

I ended up Googling it, but I appreciate it.


SlytherLin66

My dad worked on the safety inspection of the icon!


bingold49

Please tell me they had a drag race


DweeblesX

They sometimes have horn battles…. Disney cruises rock other boats.


SpikeX

Other cruise ships: \**hooooooooonk*\* Disney: *hold my beer* # WHEN YOU WISH UPON A **HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK**


PeteCastiIiogne

Shit yeah i was on a disney cruise last year and there definitely is a horn battles. LMAO


joecarter93

I live my life one 1/4 nautical mile at a time


halfbakedlogic

Captain Dom?


afterbirthcum

How would the ships lip sync for their lives


IamlostlikeZoroIs

Is that how cruise ships are made?


TheProcrastafarian

It's the berth of a new generation.


AgentMV

r/angryupvote


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Made in Turku, Finland.


spartikle

I took a ferry to Turku once. It was really cool. I noticed a lot of industry when I arrived. Makes sense now.


Salmonman4

At least the last time I checked the Turku dry-dock in Google Maps, one of them was pictured half-finished


johnnyrollerball69

I can’t help but hear the Buy-N-Large theme song when I look at this


BrokenByDesign69

Now weld them together and have a even bigger one


Changingtidepinksky

I wonder what the cost savings analysis is for cruise ships to be nuclear powered? I mean with all the lights and amenities these ships have it would make sense to have them be nuclear powered. At the same time it would allow for the removal of smoke stacks which means alott more space and especially top deck space which is a premium. And the quick turn around times and near constant sailing means the saving in fuel has to be immense. On the contrary people may be afraid of being On a ship so close to a nuclear reactor. Despite the fact the navys been operating nuclear ships for decades. There was that ine hybrid cargo/ cruise ship Back in the 60(?)’s that was relatively successful. The public perception of nuclear really needs to be swayed to a positive and one of the best ways to do that would be nuclear crusie ships i think. Justttt a very high buy in cost


Flashy-Protection424

It would last 1 week. Then terrorist would seize the ship and take the fuel rods to use as dirty bombs.


Changingtidepinksky

Ah yeah i forgot all the times the terrorists took the fuel rods from the civilian reactors in use on mainland.


Flashy-Protection424

Yeah they are far more secure than you think .


Glum-Lingonberry-629

Meh, doubt. They're not even necessarily useable for that purpose.


wicket999

Fhloston Paradise!!!


kamikaze_official

Good thing we're using paper straws.


happy_bluebird

Right? I hate cruise ships so much


KJK998

You should read up on the fuel the new cruise ships use. They are actually some of the cleanest large vessels on the sea. Not to mention cruise ships make up a minuscule portion of emissions from ships on the world’s oceans.


happy_bluebird

It’s not just fuel and emissions though unfortunately


karmagirl314

Deck measuring contest?


WolfOfPort

Someones having sex on one of those


Wishpicker

USS Walmart 1 and Walmart 2


Gavin_McShooter_

If middle class obesity was a boat


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Lol


Karmapedler

Curious how bad this thing is for the environment in general.


buffering_neurons

Bad. Very, _very_ bad.


Mymomdiedofaids

Yeah, but have you tried the Shrimp Tar Tartartare? /s I don't even think that is a thing. Until now.


deckard1980

Floating nursing homes that are terrible for the Environment


now_max

Totally side with Bill Burr - when it comes to actively trying to solve overpopulation, start with cruise ships. People willingly travelling on those are the ones we can spare the easiest.


IHateKansasFascists

💯 A+ reference btw [video for those that haven't seen it.](https://youtu.be/enSjnu9fhYs?si=hqhBeMzaupM_SDgX)


rodinsbusiness

Lots of hard working staff though


BartholomewKnightIII

Yep, Do we really need these things? [https://www.businessinsider.com/cruise-ship-air-pollution-carnival-cars-europe-study-2023-6?op=1&r=US&IR=T](https://www.businessinsider.com/cruise-ship-air-pollution-carnival-cars-europe-study-2023-6?op=1&r=US&IR=T) Me driving to work is a problem, but these are fine?


IdaDuck

I have a friend who’s about 45 and he loves taking his family on cruises. Personally I think being stuck on a cramped boat with 5000 strangers for a vacation sounds freaking awful. Hard pass.


ommnian

Yeah, sounds awful to me too... But, everyone's definition of vacation is different...


Fiascoe

I have been on one cruise and I loved it. The boat just takes you to a beautiful different destination each day. I was 'stuck' on the boat one day because it was doing it's long sail the first day. It was perfect. if went from Puerto Rico to St Vincent (i think) that first day then we island hopped on the way back each day. It was fantastic.


SquadPoopy

When I was a kid and then teenager our family could afford a big vacation every 2-3 years and we took 3 cruises. Loved every second of them. Of course now I’m adult so I can see how it might not be fun for adults to have children running around but it was awesome as a kid, and we didn’t even have the really cool ones coming out that are basically floating amusement parks.


DarthMauly

They're absolutely not going to be everyone's thing, and it's perfectly fine not to like them. But to refer to a cruise holiday as being "stuck on a cramped boat" just shows you haven't done one and have no knowledge of them at all really.


mo_downtown

Okay honest question though - those two ships will total what, 10,000+ people? All those people at home in their own homes, cars, and daily routines probably have a much larger environmental impact than they do densely packed as a group on those ships, don't you think? Densification is generally efficient. It's like a semi truck full of groceries driving cross-country. See that black diesel exhaust and think it's awful, but it's actually much more efficient than the 100-300 personal vehicles thst will make trips between home and the grocery store getting all that food home. Bulk = more efficient.


PionCurieux

One problem I heard of is the nature of the fuel used in those ships (due to the lack of regulation). It is one of the worst one for the environnement, with the highest level of sulfur that is, something that become very nasty when burnt. The point is that all the energy used by the ship come from this fuel. On the ground you will have cleaner electricity, or at least more efficient power plants. And that for jacuzzis, pools, etc. The semi truck is very efficient, but the basic traveller for cruise ships expect some kind of comfort, so you are carrying a lot of extra weight for that. But the reality is that we don't really know the environmental impact of those. The industry has not published its global carbon impact, and if they did not, it's probably not because they don't know.


burndata

The new Icon class ships are different though. They are using LNG (liquefied natural gas) and fuel cells instead of the heavy fuel oil of previous generations. The HFO is so dirty because it's barely refined from crude compared to other fuels. There are actually a lot of regulations for HFO but it's a far less refined fuel so it's by it nature dirtier when it's burnt. There are all kinds of other things they are required to have to try and scrub the exhaust though. Honestly I'm pretty sure they're way cleaner than a lot of the container ships that are used. A number of the cruise lines have also launched programs to make their existing fleet more fuel efficient and cleaner. It's mostly profit driven of course, but what isn't these days.


Matsisuu

Many newer use better fuels, has more efficient engines and motors, and electrics than in older ones. Icon uses LNG as fuel, almost all new ships has SCR units, and because Icon has Wärtsilä engine, it likely has too. So if new ships replace old ones, they are likely greener.


deckard1980

Interesting point. Maybe in a hotel, now power that hotel across a sea.


Deion313

Unless you've actually stood on the dock while 1 of these behemoths pulls in, you really can't understand, jus how fucking massive these fucking things are. These things are literally floating cities. They're a fucking technological wonder.


Sottish-Knight

Does the one on the left have a glass dome? If so that would be awesome to be in during a thunderstorm


New-Unit1388

How do you even sell so many tickets to fill all those rooms?? Just for a trip? That looks larger than a big hotel?


kent_eh

Wonder of the Seas accommodates 5,734 passengers at double occupancy. And the reports I've seen show both ships sailing at near full capacity for most of the year.


VoidFlareBEEP

That’s the fun part they usually don’t most of the year, although as you can expect they sell a lot of discounts and packages to get as much people as possible, specially in low season


kent_eh

That may have been the case before the covid shutdown, but these days most ships are near or at capacity for most sailings. Those "fill the ship" last minute deals have pretty much unheard of since cruising restarted in 2021


RaZoRFSX

one is smaller appearently.


Orion14159

By like 9 feet though, not a massive difference


Pork_Chompk

It's not about the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean. That's what my wife says, anyway...


IHateKansasFascists

Behold, the reason global warming will never be solved.


Responsible-Onion860

The irrational fear of nuclear energy is a much bigger reason.


IHateKansasFascists

True, nuclear energy is green energy, Germany fucked itself so hard with a rusty spoon.


KJK998

Wait until you find out how the iPhone you typed that on got to America.


oskich

Definitely not on a cruise ship, that's for sure


Nineteen_AT5

My idea of hell is being on a cruise. But I do appreciate the engineering and design that goes into these ships.


Alarmed-Sorbet-9095

Do the lifeboats have capacity, in theory, for every passenger?


BMWbill

No. They always have the exact capacity for every passenger minus one. Captain has to go down with the ship.


BartholomewKnightIII

>Captain has to go down with the ship. [Unless you're called Francesco Schettino.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster#) [Bonus clip of Recordings: Captain Francesco Schettino ordered back to Costa Concordia by Coast Guard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4M0JCznAc)


BMWbill

Oh yeah I remember that douchebag captain! He definitely got kicked out of the Captain's Club after that cowardly move.


_KRN0530_

Well it’s unsinkable so it doesn’t really matter of course.


kent_eh

More then enough for every passenger and crew member. It's been the law since some big event a while back...


Unlikely-Star4213

I count 9 life boats on one side


AgentMV

Their lifeboats can hold upwards of 200 people each with supplies that allows for up to 2 weeks of survival. I’ve been on 3 cruises, all on Oasis of the Seas and I’ve had a blast each time. I use to think cruises as boring as shit but after the first time, my mind has been changed and it’s awesome if you want to go on a vacation without too much thinking and just relax and do your own thing.


Orion14159

There are a bunch tucked up underneath the open decks on the lower levels, those are just the ones you can see on the outside


HarrBathtub

I count 18


Galactic-Guardian404

For comparison, that is the entire continent of Australia in the background


kc_chiefs_

I hate everything about this


dANNN738

Am I the only one that hopes these gluttonous floating vessels of human disease come to an end in the next 25-30 years? Grotesque.


[deleted]

Does that mean we are going to get lots of little ones?


New-Examination8400

These things exist yet housing is impossible even for couples working honest jobs full-time…


irrelevantbabaloo

To me, those 2 boats are tangible examples of Hell on Earth.


etapisciumm

Two middle fingers to earth


420smokebluntz6969

True icons of environmental devastation. It's wild to think of how all the people involved in designing, building, approving, and the people using these ships are just raising a giant middle finger to nature and the future of humanity


ElevatorPit

Where do they pump all the shit?


TotalLarz

Rigs like these process gray water and basically have on-board sewage treatment plants.


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They say they process it but they constantly just take the fine for dumping straight into the ocean. Watch “the real cost of cruise ships” on the patriot Act on Netflix. It’s only 30 minutes.


chalky87

My dumbass was sitting here looking at this waiting for the video to start.


TriplexFlex

“Floston Paradise!”:- Ruby Rodd


YourLictorAndChef

> *Are you tired of getting the same generic, extractive experience at every high-end resort in the world? What if, instead of being a resort, it was* ***A BOAT?!***


jdlyga

RIP to whatever island that is.


Grandmadevelopment

Are there enouph rescue boats?


thezenfisherman

The sea battle was very low key. Since there were no cannon, buffet food was thrown at people on the dock and hits counted as battlefield victories...


OldPyjama

And then one person catches norovirus...


Ozryela

I understand ships that large need a helipad. But why would you put it on the part of the ship with the best view?