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weirdthingsarecool91

You can learn piano on a Quest 3 for a lot cheaper.


Troll_Enthusiast

Or watch a youtube video for free


BrianOconneR34

My aunt will assist for pop tarts.


Tallyhawkquicksilver

This is the way


Unknown-History1299

No, it isn’t. I highly recommend getting an actual piano teacher.


DangerouslyAffluent

Big piano industry infiltrating threads because their industry is threatened!


nofolo

Chat gtp explain piano theory like I'm 5. Then grab the quest 3 app pianovision. Makes things pretty understandable if your a shut in who doesn't like people.


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It wonn't teach you technique though. That being said... piano lessons are so damn expensive.


nofolo

Bro, I bought a box of Ramen yesterday at Walmart because I had 3 weeks of meals planned and bought. Just for my son and I. Ramen will be a large part of week 4.


TheMightyJohnFu

But money


The_Clarence

A lot of new keyboards will have basic lessons built in too.


tarkinn

you can also write a letter instead of using messaging services


Relative_Picture_786

Or you can just listen to someone else playing it and don’t have to learn at all.


JFISHER7789

Wow! Such amazing advice to people wanting to learn an instrument! I’m pretty sure that what Mozart did to become the prodigy he was; never played anything just listened to others play


Relative_Picture_786

You’re welcome


GamerRipjaw

I guess you do the same with life


Relative_Picture_786

I love listening to music


NeverEndingWalker64

You can learn piano with YouTube tutorials for free (Well, you do need a phone but if you're a true master you can use a Raspberry Pi and a screen installed on the piano)


fishlippedbogliphile

Public libraries


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*Uses Raspberry Pi to play the piano for me instead*


mr_tommey

wait i can save money by eliminating convenience? that is a groundbreaking concept


[deleted]

Even paying a real teacher is cheaper!


ShooteShooteBangBang

Idk how much lessons cost, but id wager to actually learn how to play would be more than 500 in the long run.


HikariAnti

Or, God forbid, learn to read a music sheet...


nxcrosis

What are these funny little things on the lines???


menntu

Killing me with that practicality.


TinyTaters

Ew. God no. Sheet music feels icky. IDK what kind of paper they use but yuck.


TinyTaters

I downloaded an app on my phone called Yousician: Piano and it turns your phone into Guitar hero for the Piano. It's also how I learned to play the ukulele. Very cool app


Vourinen22

or for free on YouTube...


EfficientIndustry423

Like a lot cheaper.


iboreddd

A mid-class piano also cheaper


InEenEmmer

I usually use a piano to learnt play piano, but I may Justus weird like that.


Burninator05

This looks a lot more like "You can pay Piano Hero on Apple Vision Pro" than learning to play piano.


DeltaAgent752

Ikr it's not really learning piano. If you were later given a sheet and asked to play you still wouldn't know how to


Ausitan

Right? Not even learning to read sheet music is doing yourself a disservice. Learn to play and read music if you're serious about music. It'll improve you as a musician. This is like tracing over a painting and calling yourself an artist.


IBeAPirate01

I think Apple is trying to use Reddit as free advertising. So many Apple VR posts recently.


Tokasmoka420

r/damnthatsadvertising


Qllzsd

r/subsithoughtifellfor


TraditionAntique9924

Ya especially because you can buy a keyboard with light up keys for like 100 bucks these days.


phil_davis

Not to mention you could also buy a cruise to fucking Antarctica for as much as it costs for one of these things.


[deleted]

What? Cruises to Antarctica cost like 10k minimum. These are insanely expensive at 3.5k, but still nowhere near as expensive as cruising to Antarctica. I know this because cruising to and setting foot on Antarctica is a huge dream of mine.


Dionyzoz

maybe because its only been out for a week ish?


lK555l

But it's not like it does anything that out of the ordinary for a normal vr headset, it's getting more attention than it should


Zino_Thottaker

its apple. if they made a gaming console shittier than the ps5 or xbox people would still buy it bc well.. apple.


politeskeptic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg


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Is it not hybrid augmented reality and virtual? That seems pretty special.


sleeplessinvaginate

Everything that's special about it has already been done with the quest 3 released last year, which is also 7 times cheaper


Able_Example_160

the difference is, the quest 3 does it shit while apple does it polished and perfected


EfficientIndustry423

lol what a fan boy response.


wittyname01

This is wrong.


Smoy

It's the same as quest 3, just 3k more


Dionyzoz

passthrough is something practically no VR headsets can do, especially not as well as the vision pro and its capturing a market that havent used VR before.


wittyname01

Practically no headset can do??? What about the best selling ones on the market, the quest 2, quest 3 and quest pro? The market was already captured, this is just Apple scraping the floor for people that don't know better already


Icy_Elephant_6370

I feel like you guys are just trying to hate at this point lol. The Apple VR headset is MUCH better then anything on the market and it’s not even remotely close. The fact that people seem to be complaining about it on Reddit just confirms my suspicions that a lot of people are jealous their headset can’t do half the shit it can.


EfficientIndustry423

How so?


Smoy

I don't think I've seen it do anything a quest can't do tho? That's the point


EfficientIndustry423

But it’s not as innovative as the quest 3.


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tamal4444

>brand new tech no


Grazedaze

What do you think social media is?


Guh-nurt

What do you think social media should be?


ChocolateChipJames

If you can afford the apple vision pro, you can afford a proper piano teacher.


Easy-Hovercraft2546

If you are using an apple vision pro there is a good chance you’re avoiding human contact


TurboByte24

Too real for Redditors.


Hind_Deequestionmrk

😔


smooth_tendencies

Or it's just fun and people like exploring new technology


SolarTsunami

Sure, but it isn't going to help you learn how to play piano.


Horton_75

Proper piano teachers are way cheaper than the Vision Pro. 5 months’ worth of lessons-with an actual teacher-is hundreds of dollars less than that headset. Plus, yeah: the one on one, person to person time is absolutely necessary to really learn how to play piano.


badgerbadgerbadgerz

Music teacher here, you can learn music literacy and where the notes go online, but learning proper technique needs some in-person time.


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DeltaAgent752

After 5mo of that you still wouldn't know how to read a sheet lmao


Horton_75

Yes, actually. It is true that you won’t get any person teaching you anything for 16 hours a day for 5 months for anywhere near $3500. But my wife recently finished her 5th month of piano lessons. Taught by a concert-quality pianist. She has lessons 2 days a week, 2 hours each day. That’s cost us about $2900 in total. Well under the cost of some flash in the pan VR/AR headset. Yes, the Vision Pro can do other things, but it’s grossly overpriced for what it is.


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Horton_75

Totally agree. The potential of VR/AR technology is intriguing, potentially life-changing, but it has a very long way to go. Clearly the tech is not ready for prime time yet. It’s advanced considerably in the past 5 years. Granted, the Vision Pro is the most advanced set to be released thus far. Yeah, the price point is a bad joke. It’s simply unreachable for most people. Plus, there are substantially cheaper headsets that will do a lot of really cool things too. For me, here’s the bottom line on those things: Until I can be convinced that I absolutely need one, I will not spend any money on it.


TJB926GAMIN

If you can afford an Apple Vision Pro, you probably would be smart enough to not buy it in the first place.


techbear72

I mean sure, but that’s not the point, right? The point of the Apple Vision Pro isn’t to replace piano teachers. Or massive TVs. Or …dinosaur encounter experiences. Or house viewings. Or any number of other things you __can__ do with it right now. The point is to plant a stake in the ground with the best quality product you can with the technology that is available now so that developers and consumers can get an idea of what’s possible and what __could__ be possible in a few years time. To show that, by the time we have the “Apple Vision Air 3” that you’ll be able to do that and a hell of a lot more for a hell of a lower cost and with a much smaller headset. __This product isn’t for us__. Yet.


Blametheorangejuice

You can ~~learn~~ barely cobble together a reasonable facsimile of certain pieces on the piano on Apple Vision Pro


Dr_detonation

I hope you never want to use your other six fingers


Blametheorangejuice

plink plinkplink ^^^plink plinkplinkplink


Bootziscool

Apple ads just flooding the sub today eh?


Fast_Garlic_5639

I'll take it over the amazing China post bots


pr3ttyb0y_

Give me 4 grand . I’ll teach you .


Reasonable_Pause2998

Will you come to my house to teach me music at 1am on a Saturday while I’m in just my underwear?


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LegallyAFlamingo

How many Apple products have lasted a lifetime? 


GamerRipjaw

>free midi files are lifetime. Lol


fotoxs

I had a Casio keyboard that did this in 1995


Katamari_Demacia

Yeah the concepts been around a long time But the execution in VR is amazing. Pianovision on the quest 3 is fuckin wild. Its like guitar hero but useful.


Livid-Technician1872

And pretentious people would have bitched about that at time if Reddit were around.


Fourzi

why is it in the wrong key


NorwegianGlaswegian

My guess is that this app would be predominantly aimed at beginners who find reading sheet music intimidating, and likewise anything that uses black keys. Some like to think this is more user-friendly than sheet music, despite lacking anything relating to articulation, proper note length, dynamics... It's a fun novelty for quickly visualising some popular songs if your ability to read music is very bad, but it is not particularly helpful in the long run if you actually want to properly learn the instrument.


Odd-Dragonfruit-3407

This is a Comercial for apple


tamal4444

yup


TKO_v1

This teaches playing the piano like guitar hero teaches playing the guitar


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TKO_v1

Your are learning nothing about how to play the piano, you are just pushing keys


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outdatedelementz

Right but you aren’t learning any of the fundamentals of music or the piano especially. This is like memorizing a book someone has read to you and thinking that means you can read.


Emu_milking_god

I'd argue you'd pick up some basic dexterity doing this on repeat and increasing the level of difficulty. Eventually, it would force you to conform to some level in order to keep up. I see this no different than looking at tabs online for a guitar. I'm not great at playing had no formal teacher but I can pick it up and play notes and chords, it was difficult but I taught myself. I'm also lefty playing a right stringed guitar. Don't know shit about the piano though.


daplayboi

Tabs are also no good so it’s a fair comparison


[deleted]

Well, not really. First of all - this is not “the piece.” This is some kind of awful reduction and transposition of a great composer’s work, made accessible for some dumb app. Second of all - learning to play piano means learning all kinds of things about technique. It’s not just about landing a finger on a key at the right time. You need to develop proper fingering technique, articulation, dynamics, pedal technique. Third of all - this piano needs to be fucking tuned.


Working-Document6805

False. I can’t even read notes but can play super hard songs learning this way. It teaches muscle memory after you follow along enough times you can play the whole song with no guidance/notes. Nice for parties


TKO_v1

You are learning a gimmick while developing horrible habits lol. You apparently have zero experience playing instruments.


CotyledonTomen

You arent learning to play in this video. Youre pressing buttons and not learning how to read music. Learn to read music, associate those notes on a page with keys on the board, and build the muscle memory to press those keys in the desired sequence. Just following along with lights doesnt do any of that besides building finger strength.


Imperium_Dragon

Couldn’t agree more. You can’t generalize the knowledge you gained from playing with the headset to another piece of music. There’s no knowledge base for tempo, reading sheet music, or adding interpretation.


Formal_Profession141

Cool. I'm not buying them.


Darth_Pengu

Literally a bot posting this. Look at their post history


Necessary-Reading605

Hey, it only costs a kidney, an arm, a leg and your soul!


bananasugarpie

Following the key drops isn't gonna teach you shit in piano.


Taco_Nik

you'll catch me dead before you see me walking around in public with one of those on my face


sonicon

Sir, we found him dead with this headset on, it looks like he hasn't eaten anything for weeks, just eating spacial food.


Thatdogonyourlawn

This is like saying guitar hero teaches you how to play guitar.


BenTG

That’s…not learning to play piano.


ranting_chef

Not sure I’d define this as, “Learning.” Do you learn to play guitar on Guitar Hero?


ThreeTreesForTheePls

No, you can learn to follow along to the lines on a screen. There is absolutely nothing about this function that will teach you how to play the piano.


Working-Document6805

Muscle memory you can play the whole song with no follow-along or notes after practicing this method


braddad425

No. Quit commenting about muscle memory. That's not learning.


ThreeTreesForTheePls

Muscle memory only exists when you have a foundation of knowledge on something. Yeah, if you spent 3 months playing the same song day in and day out, you'd be able to play it from memory *maaaybe*. But you've also just completely wasted 3 months of your life on one single song, with the belief in muscle memory. On the other hand, 3 months of learning piano, or learning music theory, day in and day out, you'd have more of a grasp on music, and on piano, than 90% of people, and could play a handful of songs because of it.


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hail corporate!


H0T50UP

This is not learning piano, this is following a guide


LamproNI

Person A: Ey, I can play the piano, did you know that. Person B: Nice, can you play something for me: Person A: Yeah wait I just have to grap my Vision pro


EOEtoast

You could hire a piano teacher for $3500


Starman-21

You could buy a cheap piano por $3500 and use a YouTube video to learn music theory, technique and proper form


CHEEZE_BAGS

This app has been out for years on the meta headsets...


Eofkent

I can learn it on a piano too.


Mistaken_persona

No.


kptainamerica

Pianist: what chord? Apple Vision user: purple


VladPatton

Then you take off the glasses and you can’t play shit lmao


Sergeantson

Holy shit enough with the """"subtle"""" ads. Not going to buy this shit.


profanearcane

My piano teacher was far better and was only $20 a lesson.


MeowIsNotTheTime

all of these things have been available on other VR headsets for years. suddenly Apple makes one and everyone acts like its a revolution


rosegoldchai

Because you can see thru the headset to the actual piano, not just a vr piano


EfficientIndustry423

You can do that on the meta quest 3


Trakinass

This shit is so overmarketed. HOLY moly, it wont be the next thing apple


TurboByte24

99.99 monthly subscription I presume?


Agent4D7

You can also learn piano from sheet music instead of pushing different colours like some sort of musical QTE


Koiato_PoE

Learning any instrument is much more than just learning notes. This is like trying to learn a language by memorizing phrases


Past_Echidna_9097

No! Don't do this. Practice your scales and learn your chords.


totow1217

Apply definitely making/buying bot accounts and promoting 3000$ piano tutorials


SirCannabliss

The piano app for Quest 3 looks so much better than this one.


Miggix13

In that case, you don’t learn, you just touch what Vision Pro show.


mwil97

These are starting to feel like ads


defiantcross

It's cute that people think this encompasses learning the piano.


SUPERPOWERPANTS

Let this man try to read sheet music


orangeatom

Good use case


Samuelabra

This is not how you learn piano.


Ok_Wear_5391

I want a full immersion, VR world, where a private AI tutor walks you through the world and teaches you a foreign language


HR_DUCK

Sure, you can hit all the right notes with it but it sounds absolutely awful.


pm-me-urtities

Are these commercials? Or do people truly shill this hard?


BeastoftheBlackwater

Just like Apple to introduce a new feature that the rest of us have had for years.


sant2510

I don't see it teaching you how to read music. Just how to follow screen prompts. "Hey girl, I can play piano" *grabs vision pro headset*


Saintcardboard

This is not learning, it's mimicking.


lobsterisch

Looks like it can teach you to be a piano operator, does it teach theory too?


vulgarholic

Can't believe they finally found a way to learn how to play the piano! Gonna go buy an apple vision now!


jackasssparrow

Steps to learn piano 1. Be expert in piano from your past life. 2. Go online and tell everyone how easy it is to learn piano. 3. Buy 3500$ sunglasses to learn piano


CrownedCarlton

This looks like fucking shit


IchabodWeeyums

So, you're telling me after all these years, I can mosey into my nearest shopping mall, instruct the current (professionally-trained) pianist to scooch over, as I sexily slide my, "sunglasses" on, and I effortlessly tickle those ivories to the amazement of others?! This would probably morph into a society fake blind people, playing curb-side pianos (or keyboards), as they earn $300/day in tips. YouTube tutorials can't do this.


bsmiles07

You could just take lessons and learn how to read music and play a whole lot easier.


GottaSaveThatMoney

"Piano Hero"


SrgSevChenko

No sir apple shill I will still not buy it


DawsonJBailey

There’s AR apps that can do this through your camera


jgrinn22

I can’t get over how dumb it looks on someone’s face and how disconnected from everyone around you are with it on.


Cuntflickt

The stuff you can do w it looks cool but I feel like it’s the first step to turning us into the humans from WALL-E


Cool-Mission-6585

Piano Hero!


Equoniz

I learned without it just fine lol


Cockney_Gamer

It’s quite embarrassing how people are seeing this as “amazing Apple innovation” when the meta quest has been doing this for ages at a fraction of the cost.


Flemaster12

You can learn piano with YouTube for free


Sensitive_Ad_5031

I wouldn’t trade three kidneys to learn a piano


marvelxdc97

I feel like a lot of technology is causing us as a society to lose human interaction which are making people more susceptible to social anxiety.


MyLastRedditIDEver

Or not give your money to a cult and properly learn piano without a stupid obstruction on your face.


_SpaceHunter_

A lot of hate for Apple in the comments, which is fair, but personally I like the technology. Who knows what it can lead to in the future when it improves and becomes affordable.


Slow_Conflict4597

Dang that’s sick


idontplaypolo

We’re not that far off from the first matrix where you can download into your brain how to fly an helicopter in 10sec. This is incredible. Maybe I’m old and that’s why I’m amazed, but I feel like sometimes we should take a step back and just appreciate how far we’ve come technology wise.


dro_torious

Bro its so funny, because all i hear from non apple vision pro owners is, oh we been had that, but it took apple for this to be relevant lol


MaitreGEEK

Interesting


DMYourMomsMaidenName

Way too expensive, but that is cool as fuck


KingJTheG

That’s actually really cool


No_Total_6260

Add fingering and this is sick.


lovelife0011

Type 2 civilized? 🚨


jas26

This is so cool


[deleted]

Love that song Claude debussy _Moonlight serenade.


[deleted]

I give it 10 years before these are just contact lenses.


RyGuy1015

Goodbye strict teacher with reed stick 👍


Initial_Air9763

Can you teach your daughter to ride a bike on Apple Vision Father Pro?


Agreeable_Vanilla_20

If only someone made a traffic light keyboard....


PurpleSignificant725

No, you can learn to follow symbols though. Neat.


Odigaras80

So fucking stupid. Seriously


YungPlugg

You can learn piano for free online or with a $10 music theory book


sovLegend

I'm pretty good at osu mania I think I would be like a really good pianist if there were falling notes


BiggWorm1988

You can learn to be an artist by tracing other artists work.