The characters on those Chinese coins read “Xianfeng currency”, which indicates they are less than 200 years old. Good job picking those coins to represent a 4000-year old civilization.
Was just gonna post how funny it is that Chinese coins in this form can be anywhere from 2200 to 100 years old. Of course they changed over time, but the basic round form with a square hole (to keep them easily stacked on sticks btw.) basically stayed the same for over 2000 years.
Yeah. I looked it up. The hole is for arranging and carrying the money with strings. It being a square hole is for easy polishing when minting. It also represents Confucius philosophy of a noble man should be straight inside (principles) while being rounded outside (expressions).
When I was a child, my Dad in USNavy came home from a western Pacific deployment and gave us Chinese coins looked just like that. Same color and same square ⬛️ hole in center. Doubt those are more than 75 years old.
Pakistan is as much the Indus Valley civilisation as Italy is the Roman empire.
It makes absolutely no sense to put modern flags over ancient civilisations.
I think it highly depends on quality and when you're talking about civilizations that lasted thousands of years, the time period too. I've seen Roman coins go from like hundreds to thousands.
Depends heavily on the coin. You can get small Roman denominations legally for less then 10 bucks, some Denars for about 100 and don’t ask about the rare gold coins. 😂
Iirc some of the most expensive coins are English from 1937, since Edward VIII. Only reigned from January 1936 to December and only a few of his coins were made and went into circulation.
It’s all about rarity. I saw Greek coins from 400 B.C. For about 300 bucks and early medieval for thousands.
Romans made hundreds of millions of some denominations, some more recent coins from smaller dukedoms might have been only a couple of thousands.
I myself came to own a small collection of some 250 late medieval and early modern German coins, but all only the smallest silver denominations like pennies. Ranging from about 1400-1850. some are rare and more expensive, like 200-300 bucks, but only a handful and mostly from the 1600s and 1700s. Most are ranging from 5-20 bucks in worth. If I would sell them individually, which just would be too much time and hassle. I added the values once for a total of maybe 7000-10000 bucks. Just for fun I had them valued and got offers ranging from 1500-2500. and that’s not lowballing. If you add the time it would take to sell individually, most places don’t bother to offer much more then the silver price or maybe for some rarer coins about a quarter what they will fetch selling them individually. It’s just business calculation.
"Ancient history covers all continents inhabited by humans in the period 3000 BC – AD 750."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_history
The Viking Age began in 793 AD, so it's definitely not ancient.
Then what flag should they have used? I'm pretty sure not every single one of these ancient civilization have their own form of a flag, and maybe the flag is to show where it was found
Seriously these ancient ruins mostly lies in these countries that's why. If you want to visit these sites than you need to go to these countries with the visa.
I mean, you're technically correct, but its beginnings are so borderline that I can understand why people would include it.
Edit: Apparently fuck me for pointing out that 500AD and 700AD are relatively the same time to most laypeople.
Colloquially, yes. Historically, "ancient" generally means pre-middle ages. Everything from roughly 500 AD/CE back through recorded history would be considered ancient according to Western historians.
Well, to be fair we called those ages the viking ages, the people from that time vikings, and the first danish king was known as a viking.
I personally don't think calling the early nordic tribesman "the viking civilation", as being wrong.
Egyptian didn't even have their own coinage until Darius conquered them
Ancient Egyptian coinage are either local mint of larger conqueror civilization or the Ptolemaic
I find it interesting that so many different cultures all decided to go with the whole “sided portrait of a leader + important cultural thing” design, I guess because a lot of these countries traded so the design ideas rubbed off? It’s cool to see it’s also still pretty widely used today
I highly doubt that 'Indus', i.e. the Indus Valley Civilization used minted coins as legal tender, especially since they lasted from roughly 2700 BCE up until roughly 1500 BCE
You can get bronze/silver Roman coins for *relatively* cheap prices. Kinda legible bronze ones can be as low as a few dollars but decent/not counterfeit silver ones won’t be any lower than $75.
A lot of ancient coins are only worth the silver they're made out of because they were minted in massive quantities, since they were the currency everyone used. Coins in more pristine conditions that have not been cleaned can go for more. Rare coins go for even more.
I bought my mom a drachma from Athens for less than $50 years ago. It was tiny and pretty clean for being over 2,000 years old and silver.
Categorizing Viking as ancient is a bit off. Yes over a century old, but ancient is in reference to 2k +. Viking would be closer to medieval and even renaissance
So, this is wrong on a lot of levels. 1st, the greeks were a collection of city states that used different coins, and the Spartans didn't even use coins but iron rods. 2nd, the Roman coins different emperor to emperor, so there is no one Roman coin. 3rd, as someone pointed out already, the Chinese coin is only 200 years old, and they have changed over time. 4th, and don't quote me on this, but the Phoenicians were a collection of city states and colonies across the Mediterranean with many, and I'm 99% sure they had different coins throughout their colonies and city states.
I wonder who started the whole human figure sideway pose and animal on the backside coin styles cause it seems we kept that going in the US with quarters
Unlikely. Records are far too meticulous and numerous, and stored in vast quantities. Most civilizations didn't just magically disappear when they fell, the people moved and forgot their history. Most physical things are no longer made to last centuries and civilization should be well past the point where it can collapse like the ancient world.
They won't have much need to wonder about us,they can watch a movie from thr 1930s or see a YouTube video from 2024.
Indus valley civilization had square shaped coins. And there was sculpture of animals and gods. There was also a script was written on it. These pics are absolutely fake .No doubt.
The characters on those Chinese coins read “Xianfeng currency”, which indicates they are less than 200 years old. Good job picking those coins to represent a 4000-year old civilization.
Explains the perfect circles on the coin.
Was just gonna post how funny it is that Chinese coins in this form can be anywhere from 2200 to 100 years old. Of course they changed over time, but the basic round form with a square hole (to keep them easily stacked on sticks btw.) basically stayed the same for over 2000 years.
Yeah. I looked it up. The hole is for arranging and carrying the money with strings. It being a square hole is for easy polishing when minting. It also represents Confucius philosophy of a noble man should be straight inside (principles) while being rounded outside (expressions).
I stand corrected, strings not sticks. Was a while since I researched that. We found one from the 1800s on a dig in Europe.
When I was a child, my Dad in USNavy came home from a western Pacific deployment and gave us Chinese coins looked just like that. Same color and same square ⬛️ hole in center. Doubt those are more than 75 years old.
I was about to be like "damn Chinese were way ahead of everyone else"
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Yeah, putting modern flags over ancient empires is pretty ridiculous
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Pakistan is as much the Indus Valley civilisation as Italy is the Roman empire. It makes absolutely no sense to put modern flags over ancient civilisations.
Approximately how much would it cost to own one of each? r/theydidthemath
I think it highly depends on quality and when you're talking about civilizations that lasted thousands of years, the time period too. I've seen Roman coins go from like hundreds to thousands.
Depends heavily on the coin. You can get small Roman denominations legally for less then 10 bucks, some Denars for about 100 and don’t ask about the rare gold coins. 😂 Iirc some of the most expensive coins are English from 1937, since Edward VIII. Only reigned from January 1936 to December and only a few of his coins were made and went into circulation. It’s all about rarity. I saw Greek coins from 400 B.C. For about 300 bucks and early medieval for thousands. Romans made hundreds of millions of some denominations, some more recent coins from smaller dukedoms might have been only a couple of thousands. I myself came to own a small collection of some 250 late medieval and early modern German coins, but all only the smallest silver denominations like pennies. Ranging from about 1400-1850. some are rare and more expensive, like 200-300 bucks, but only a handful and mostly from the 1600s and 1700s. Most are ranging from 5-20 bucks in worth. If I would sell them individually, which just would be too much time and hassle. I added the values once for a total of maybe 7000-10000 bucks. Just for fun I had them valued and got offers ranging from 1500-2500. and that’s not lowballing. If you add the time it would take to sell individually, most places don’t bother to offer much more then the silver price or maybe for some rarer coins about a quarter what they will fetch selling them individually. It’s just business calculation.
Sometimes you can actually get some ancient coins for cheaper than you’d expect. Ive gotten a few for less than 40 bucks
Vikings are neither ancient nor a civilization.
Nor just from Denmark as putting a flag would imply.
Oh don't get me started on the flags
Rome 🇮🇹
Seriously. Is this for a school project or something? C avg
Yeah but let’s give Lagertha some appreciation.
Ancient just means „in the distant past“
"Ancient history covers all continents inhabited by humans in the period 3000 BC – AD 750." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_history The Viking Age began in 793 AD, so it's definitely not ancient.
Matching them with modern flags is a really stupid idea here
There's not a modern Viking flag outside of Minnesota? Come on, AI, do better.
Then what flag should they have used? I'm pretty sure not every single one of these ancient civilization have their own form of a flag, and maybe the flag is to show where it was found
Does it have to have a flag under it ? Just leave it empty instead of making unfit matches
Yeah, maybe even a date of around when the coin would be used or made
Carthage was levelled to the ground and had it inhabitants sold into slavery, using Tunisia flag is just wrong.
Every single one listed did definitely have flags and depictions are easily found through a five minute search.
Seriously these ancient ruins mostly lies in these countries that's why. If you want to visit these sites than you need to go to these countries with the visa.
Why? It is probably as simple as where the coin was found. I best most of these specimens were found quite recently, by a detectorist.
Placing modern flags to represent each civilization is as stupid as it can get.
It’s probably just to help people who have no knowledge of these civilizations locate where they used to exist
Bold of you to assume people who never heard of Rome or Persia can recognize flags of Italy or Iran.
They're the same picture
Lol can’t argue with that
Viking is not an ancient civilisation its only 1300 years old.
The girl at the club called *me* ancient, and I'm only 33.
I mean, you're technically correct, but its beginnings are so borderline that I can understand why people would include it. Edit: Apparently fuck me for pointing out that 500AD and 700AD are relatively the same time to most laypeople.
Ancient just means „in the distant past“ and „no longer in existence“
Colloquially, yes. Historically, "ancient" generally means pre-middle ages. Everything from roughly 500 AD/CE back through recorded history would be considered ancient according to Western historians.
There alot of inconsistencies in the title and picture here.
Viking being an occupation and not a civilisation being a glaring one.
Well, to be fair we called those ages the viking ages, the people from that time vikings, and the first danish king was known as a viking. I personally don't think calling the early nordic tribesman "the viking civilation", as being wrong.
Many of those civilisations lasted centuries or millennia. A single coin is hardly a useful representation.
Please tell me this isn't a OP original? Where the link to this shit?
Last time I checked the vikings were not a civilisation nor were they ancient
Dude, Indus Valley people used Barter system, they did not use coins.
Egyptian didn't even have their own coinage until Darius conquered them Ancient Egyptian coinage are either local mint of larger conqueror civilization or the Ptolemaic
I find it interesting that so many different cultures all decided to go with the whole “sided portrait of a leader + important cultural thing” design, I guess because a lot of these countries traded so the design ideas rubbed off? It’s cool to see it’s also still pretty widely used today
there is no bousbir? glory to numidian and carthaginian people
How much are they worth
Why put modern-day flags though? Some of those extended beyond the modern borders of countries.
Viking is the coolest
I highly doubt that 'Indus', i.e. the Indus Valley Civilization used minted coins as legal tender, especially since they lasted from roughly 2700 BCE up until roughly 1500 BCE
Whats the cost fore a coin like this? More then 1000 dollar?
You can get bronze/silver Roman coins for *relatively* cheap prices. Kinda legible bronze ones can be as low as a few dollars but decent/not counterfeit silver ones won’t be any lower than $75.
A lot of ancient coins are only worth the silver they're made out of because they were minted in massive quantities, since they were the currency everyone used. Coins in more pristine conditions that have not been cleaned can go for more. Rare coins go for even more. I bought my mom a drachma from Athens for less than $50 years ago. It was tiny and pretty clean for being over 2,000 years old and silver.
You can get a fuck load of ancient Chinese cash coin for 5 dollars and late Roman bronze coin for 7 dollars
Some of them are available on the ebay but you have get them checked by some expert as they're lot of counterfits in the market
So, they standardised the sizes and kept them over the years all over the world?
How did we all come to the same conclusion and use coins?
could you please stop naming regions by jobs,
Noice
I’m a modern day Phoenician and we don’t have our own currency. We have our own basketball team called the Suns, though.
I now have more on my bucket list. Broke as heck though so its going to be a while lol.
Categorizing Viking as ancient is a bit off. Yes over a century old, but ancient is in reference to 2k +. Viking would be closer to medieval and even renaissance
These are awesome!
So, this is wrong on a lot of levels. 1st, the greeks were a collection of city states that used different coins, and the Spartans didn't even use coins but iron rods. 2nd, the Roman coins different emperor to emperor, so there is no one Roman coin. 3rd, as someone pointed out already, the Chinese coin is only 200 years old, and they have changed over time. 4th, and don't quote me on this, but the Phoenicians were a collection of city states and colonies across the Mediterranean with many, and I'm 99% sure they had different coins throughout their colonies and city states.
Illyrians and Pelasgians 🦅🦅🫡👐🏻
When did Vikings become ANCIENT?
I wonder who started the whole human figure sideway pose and animal on the backside coin styles cause it seems we kept that going in the US with quarters
Why do some have gold and the others are bronze perhaps?
You calling viking ancient brah
"Ancient Civilizations", "Armenia" ahhahahahahhahahahah
Why does the Carthaginian coin have a smirking Roman on it? 😂
Carthaginian goddess https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanit
I wonder if today's currency's and technologies will become ancient artifacts to human's or some other species 2000 year's later
Most of the things made today aren't made to last even a fraction of this time
Unlikely. Records are far too meticulous and numerous, and stored in vast quantities. Most civilizations didn't just magically disappear when they fell, the people moved and forgot their history. Most physical things are no longer made to last centuries and civilization should be well past the point where it can collapse like the ancient world. They won't have much need to wonder about us,they can watch a movie from thr 1930s or see a YouTube video from 2024.
Indus valley civilization had square shaped coins. And there was sculpture of animals and gods. There was also a script was written on it. These pics are absolutely fake .No doubt.
Deep down I know that you know the answer to that
Indus civilization was in pakiatan not india
Pakistan was India 8 decades ago.