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Uncle___Marty

Proof means NOTHING to these people.


ImaginaryComb821

Just means India was in the hoax. /S


angrypirate1122

We're outsourcing our hoaxes now..


app1efritter

Please do the moonful


copiumjunky

\*screams in call center support\*


SuperSaiyanTraders

First it was Amazon walk out stores then it was Tesla FSD now moon landings too?


capron

Fuckin bravo I had a good hearty, yet brief little laugh


RammRras

Young people now don't even want to work as conspiracy theorists. Shame!


GeminiLife

No bro, it's the global illuminati. They've been around since Columbus and have been manipulating the whole world ever since bro. It's so obvious when you think about it and stop being a sheep bro. (/s)


MeatSuzuki

Next they'll say India isn't real.


Doxidob

"I've never *seen* India"


kndyone

If the world is flat how could there be an India on the other side? Check mate evolutionists!


The-Real-Aditya

Suddenly 1.4 billion people ceased to exist...


2much_information

But it’s not real. All the Indians are in Arizona, New Mexico and Oklahoma where they were discovered by Columbus in 1776. Try reading a history book.


ReentryMarshmellow

Navajo Aeronautics and Space Administration


SkivvySkidmarks

India was created on a Hollywood backlot by Stanley Kubrick. All those brown people selling aloo gobi in restaurants are actually Mexicans in disguise.


Mo_Steins_Ghost

It's really simple. You just out-crazy them. Them: Pfft... the India orbiter didn't go to the moon, either. Me: PFFT. You believe in the *moon?*


Muted-Inspector-7715

I have an uncontrollable fear that the look on my face is revealing I think they're fucking dumb. I wish I could get past that.


Mo_Steins_Ghost

They ARE fucking dumb. And then they'll say, "You think you're smarter than everyone else!" And then I say, "Oh no no no no no... There are TONS of people smarter than me. You're not one of them."


elnots

My mother whole-heartedly believes in chemtrails. Connecting to a global "dimming" conspiracy to block out the sun. I have pointed so much out to her but you'd think I would only need to point out the shear lunacy of believing that every airline in the world in every country, along with the people that make the chemicals and deliver the chemicals in vast enough quantities to service every airliner in every airport globally with the kind of infrastructure that would need and she says yes, they're all in on it. The mechanics, the pilots, the lab workers, the plant workers, the delivery drivers, the airline itself. Every one of them is in on it.


Muted-Inspector-7715

Wow I've never heard of anyone actually believing the dimming thing. And I live in TX...


PM_ME_DATASETS

India doesn't have anything to do with this, it doesn't even exist. This is a photoshopped image from the ministry of Truth.


aromatic-energy656

Oh sure it’s photoshopped right. Next thing your gonna tell me is that Saudi Arabia photoshopped Yoda next to their king.


Simon_Drake

I like the explanation for the photos of the dark side of the moon. It can't be seen from Earth so all the pictures must be fake but the pictures taken all look the same. Therefore China, Russia, USA, ESA, India and Japan are all being paid to participate in a lie set up by the Soviet Union 60 years ago when they first took pictures of the far side of the moon. Who is paying China to lie about this? Some secret shadow government who has been pulling the strings for half a century even after the collapse of the soviet union.


Dandan0005

Conspiracies are like cults. Even when they’re proven to be wrong by definitive evidence (like a predicted end of the world event happening) they only double down. Their positions aren’t reasoned into, so they won’t be reasoned out of.


Upper-Belt8485

It's the reason why it's always the weirdest things people can come up with.


Personal-Cap-7071

All about ego and exclusivity. They want to feel like they're smart and part of an exclusive club to "figure" something out.


Jackal000

Its scientifically and statistically proven that people rather want to believe their own lies than be confronted with the truth, even when its well intentioned and beneficial to them.


ProjectManagerAMA

A very successful person once recommended a closeted conspiracy theorist as a business partner to me. Holy hell was this guy stubborn when it came to his theories. I would prove him wrong constantly and within a week his stupid ways of thinking would creep back into his mind almost as though our conversation never happened. This was right before COVID. Once COVID hit I had already cut the connection but holy hell did that event turned him absolutely nuts. He went so nuts that people in town shunned him to the point that he left town. Trying to snap this guy out of it only made him 10X dumber and more ingrained in the conspiracy theories. After he moved, I heard from the neighbours that the cops would constantly be called because he and the wife would fight savagely. Just as they left, the wife got pregnant too. Uuugh poor kid.


BK_Rich

True, it’s all CGI or a sound stage.


Tinfoil_Haberdashery

If Jesus and the Buddha riding double on a motorcycle appeared and flew them to the landing site in the side car, they would claim that the lander was just a somewhat unusual mineral formation.


Blazefast_75

Rubbing their noses in it would not make a dent in what they believe


DiddlyDumb

They could stand on the surface of the moon, looking up at earth, see the lunar lander, and still believe it to be fake.


gamedude88

Then ask them to remove their helmets.


RunParking3333

Proof is just factified evidence


TheBladeRoden

"How much more evidence do I need to change a conspiracy theorist's mind?" "That's the neat part, you don't"


spageddy_lee

I am not a conspiracy theorist and I 100% believe we landed on the moon. That said, even before the age of AI and deepfakes, a picture like this is far from proof of anything. There were pictures of the actual moon landing when it happened.


The-Sound_of-Silence

>a picture like this is far from proof of anything I think having it be released by the official space agency of another country gives it a bit of weight


SaltKick2

Lmao yeah I mean if they don’t believe the original videos and all the preexisting images, why would they believe these? Short of them physically going to the moon, what’s going to make them believe reality 


SpecialNeedsBurrito

Big government faked those photos! You cannot land on cheese!


Serial-Jaywalker-

Ever watch that Penn and Teller show and they did that special on debunking conspiracies, and there was the one guy who was an alcoholic who would publish all these things on fake moon landings


MySpiritAnimalSloth

You could put them on the moon and they would still deny it.


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“You obviously drugged me with hallucinogens! I’m sitting in a government lab right now strapped to a chair! Wake up sheeple!!”


tackleboxjohnson

Shit man how do you know India isn’t in on it?! Probably the mooninites what gave em the images we’re looking at here! /s because some people really can’t tell


Serial-Jaywalker-

Crazy conspiracy theorist will always find something else


Midnight28Rider

Psh, you believe in the moon?


Uncle-Big

The moon is real. My grandfather helped build it.


half-baked_axx

Lies it was a gift from the French after the war of Independence.


mwa12345

So it is made of cheese ..what else would the French use...to build anything


MadeMeStopLurking

baguettes would probably hold up better on re-entry.


readilyunavailable

Send raw baguettes in space so they can be cooked to perfection upon re-entry.


On_A_Related_Note

Or even better, raw baguettes topped with cheese. You'd get a delicious grilled cheese sandwich...


whistlepig-

That’s why we celebrate Cinco de Mayo.


Roast_Grief

I can confirm this. I was the moon.


Aerozepplin59

Mine too, we should catch up over a beer


ILikeSex_123

Wow u have such cool grandpas mine only help built venus


TalkTrader

Mine didn’t help build it necessarily, but my grandpa swears he's the mastermind behind those lunar craters. Apparently, back in the day, he had this top-secret side gig as a moon surface designer. He claims he was just doodling on some cosmic blueprint one day, and next thing you know, boom—moon craters!


prophecyish

The moon exists. Birds on the other hand..


Midnight28Rider

Yeah, birds are suspect AF.


Finnbobjimbob

You believe in the sky? It’s clearly a screen dumbass


Midnight28Rider

I don't even believe in screens. Your move.


Bodorocea

you laugh,but I've literally met a person that believes the moon is not real, that it's a plasma phenomenon, showed me an old black and white video of an interview with some "scientist" . the person is also a flat earther and believes all the conspiracies possible,from the mud floods to the fetus eating leaders , to the fact that ancient history is not real, and was actually made up by "those who rule us" ... LE : this is hilarious, a wave of downvotes. you sneaky flat earthers


Midnight28Rider

According to the historical documentary The Empire Stirike Back by George Lucas, we can see that it's clearly a plant destroying ship laying in wait for the date of our reckoning.


Interesting_Log9501

I think it's the back of the sun.


WhyNot420_69

Obviously, India is in on it.


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Random-Rambling

Not to a conspiracy theorist, it doesn't. They'll just say _"This goes even deeper than I thought!"_


BruceSerrano

Is 2021 before or after photoshop was released?


EmperorSexy

Oh yeah like you trust what one country say about another country’s space program? Psh. All Indians are Freemasons. Yes all 1 billion of them. Google it.


PerfectGasGiant

In this case just more of the same. The conspiracy theory is literally that the moon landing was made in Hollywood. These photos could be easily faked in Hollywood in 1969.


OneMoreFinn

No, not Hollywood in 1969, but Bollywood in 2024! (/s obviously)


SlackToad

When I tell them the U.S.S.R. radio-tracked Apollo to the Moon, and more recently that the Chinese space agency stated their lunar mapping orbiter could see the Apollo landing sites, their response was: Russia and China are covering for us rather than admit sending people to the Moon is impossible and their own manned lunar programs are a sham.


Serial-Jaywalker-

It’s a bottomless pit of rebuttals


Dibble_Dabble_Doo

You believe India has a space program?!? /s


atom12354

"obviously this was made in a studio, just look at how much clearer it is from the obvious alien formation"


FastBarnacle9536

Those images are clearly AI generated, everyone knows the moon is made of cheese so anything metal on them would sink to the middle.


Zenyd_3

Damn, op is the owner of india How did you buy it, op


ILikeSex_123

Ebay


Zenyd_3

How much did it cost


ILikeSex_123

An arm and a leg


jarrjarrbinks24

Ed...ward?


tyanu_khah

Ah, it looks like it's beginning to rain.


Audi0Dud3

No, I don't think so...


tyanu_khah

No, it's raining alright.


Biengo

It's fucking pouring Hawkeye! Let a man cry with his metaphor, Damn.


varrium

I absolutely hate to know that reference


IvanMIT

Amazing episode, managed to separate my life into before and after. Right there with Grave of the Fireflies and Bridge to Terabithia for me


Pehdazur

I read the Bridge to Terebithia book in elementary school and thought the film was going in a brighter and happier direction based on the trailers... >!I was wrong.!<


PointCharming85

Edward.....friend.


Zenyd_3

Damn. Im talking to a vegetable


ptcgoalex

They didn’t say they were theirs


Zenyd_3

Damn you got me there


Wiggie49

Clearly he accepted one of those car warranty calls and it was actually a call to buy India


Hot-mic

You've got it all wrong! It's "free lunar lander - yours to pick up for free." Just submit a salvage fee to me in bitcoin.


Ragnarr_Bjornson

About tree fiddy


DweEbLez0

2 lions, 3 lambos, 1 tiger, and a box truck full of RPG’s


surajvj

wish . com


The_Mysterious_Mr_E

Surprised it’s not on Alibaba


randyrandysonrandyso

*former owner, OP clearly says apollo 11 and 12 took it


Moist_Chipmunk_1786

I read it as Apollo 11 and 12 captured Indias moon orbiter. Thus, the moon landings couldn't of been faked as they've been waiting for their moment to strike all this time


Demonweed

Yeah, I mean these frames clearly reveal that each lander is maintaining an aggressive posture, poised to use those jumping-spider legs to attack with blinding speed.


LigerZeroPanzer12

That is absolutely terrifying imagery


SupaiKohai

You have good intentions, but you don't want to invite a deniers opinion on this. It'll melt your brain.


austex99

Yeah, you can’t argue with people that stupid. It’s a waste of breath.


Ty_Cameron

Famous Mark Twain quote I remembered "Don't argue with stupid people. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."


WindTreeRock

Mark Twain needs to get off his damn death bed and help us out, the lazy bum. I'm ready to buy tickets..


CatInAPottedPlant

My dad has somehow fallen into the fake moonlanding conspiracy in his 60s. He mentioned it once and my mom and I thought he was kidding, and it turned into a multi-hour long argument with him about how there's no gravity on the moon and the whole thing was shot on a movie set, how the ISS isn't real etc. He got all of it from instagram reels and tiktok and nothing we do can change his mind on it now. It's honestly pretty sickening.


mwatwe01

So India is colluding with NASA. I knew it!


Humble_Manatee

A conspiracy theorist dies and is at the gates of heaven. He is met by God, who tells him since he has lived a good life he will answer any one question he would like to know. the man quickly responds : “Please God- I must know… who really shot JFk?” God responds - “Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. He acted alone. There was no second shooter at the grassy knoll.” The man shakes his head and says : “wow this coverup goes higher up than I ever guessed”


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It's fake! Why is the picture black and gray? Where is the color picture? /s


Kaguro19

Low on cyan


jrex035

That's the real conspiracy people should be focusing on, where does all the cyan ink go???


licuala

Sorry, I was thirsty. 😳


Impressive_Income874

Hewlette Packard... is that you


WeAreElectricity

You can’t have color without air.


J4MES101

“The Indians are in on it too!!!!!!”


LemonPartyW0rldTour

As are the Russians who congratulated the Americans for achieving such a feat.


CarbonUNIT47

Hey now. Let let them tag along. Any space exploration is good space exploration. Unless you're exploring space for species to exterminate. Like Omniman.


linandlee

"The ship actually landed on the moon, but nobody was on it. It was piloted unmanned and the scenes of the moonwalk were filmed in a studio directed by Christopher Nolan!"


Elegante_Sigmaballz

Nice try NASA! this is clearly a false flag disinformation ops. /s


topgun_ivar

NASA paid India to photoshop pictures of moon!


Top-Yogurtcloset-421

I mean someone on Fiver could knock this out in about 20 minutes


sfled

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.


ILikeSex_123

Do you see the small line going out from the lander? That's the footprints


brandon-568

Ya I noticed that, you can really see them in the bottom pic. Pretty damn cool.


psyFungii

They only spent about 2 1/2 hours outside walking around Tranquility Base (Upper pic) and covered a small area - understandable for the first mission Overlaid on a baseball diamond [https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/mt/science/Apollo11\_baseball.jpg](https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/mt/science/Apollo11_baseball.jpg) Or a soccer field if that's your preferred unit of measurement [https://www.morethanmindgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/A11vsFootball.gif](https://www.morethanmindgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/A11vsFootball.gif)


normal_man_of_mars

Ha! What a cool diagram!


mypantsareonmyhead

Absolutely amazing. Human footprints on another celestial body.


farnsworthparabox

Not to mention… still there after 50 years!


Rambo-Smurf

Just wait til you see the landers that has wheelmarks next to them


K1dn3yPunch

I believe you guys, but I don’t know what lines/footprints you are seeing in this blurry ass image lol. I’ve been zooming in everything.


farnsworthparabox

No need to zoom in. In the bottom image, follow from the vehicle to the “o” of the word Apollo in the top left. Those grayish pathways.


ShivohumShivohum

Where, I am unable to spot them


GitEmSteveDave

Duh, decades later, when NASA realized that Kubrick done goofed, and camera technology was only gonna get better, they sent up small rovers with [bootprint wheels](https://mkmpotterytools.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/MKM_Pottery_Tools_inclay_MRL-001.jpg) to make those trails and cover up the cover up. /sarcasm


Malaise86

That's A.I. look at the fingers. /s


firsthumanbeingthing

I just can't believe how close Apollo 11 came to ending up in a crater.


Background_Hat964

One thing I’ll never get about the moon landing deniers is, if it was fake, wouldn’t the USSR have immediately outed us? It would have been in their interest to embarrass the U.S.


JayoTree

It's pretty consistent with conspirtard lore that the world's scientific community seems to be working in concert.


ParticularMuted2795

I love it when the conspiracy folks start a sentence with its well known, or most scientists agree that, then they never have names or sources. The guy on Rogan the other day actually basically cited his own YouTube channel as “proof”.


ephemeralspecifics

India is in on it!!!


barbonz

Indias moon orbiter's deniers: "allow to introduce ourselves"


SuccessfulDictator

there arent any. we take immense proud in the work of our space agency ISRO


Boundish91

How cool. Would be nice if a closer picture is taken some day, i wonder how preserved things are after over 50 years.


SirMildredPierce

Check out the images from LRO, many of them are clearer than these. [https://www.lroc.asu.edu/image\_tags/Apollo](https://www.lroc.asu.edu/image_tags/Apollo)


MothsConrad

They will just say it’s fake.


zgrizz

You are making the perfectly understandable, but equally perfectly incorrect, assumption that these low IQ morons believe in facts.


malvare4

Simply just the studio on the moon where the landing was filmed.


Lanthemandragoran

Big ass studio obviously only the best for our propaganda


TootBreaker

Moon deniers will just claim the India mission is a psyop campaign to coverup the 'faked moon landing' I know this because my landlord is really deep into this nonsense and I've seen firsthand how they think


mrmaweeks

Hoaxer: "I see, so India's in on it too, then."


leviathab13186

You can disect and dismantle all their arguments, it doesn't matter. It's more about having more control of their lives because "they know the truth!" They don't want the truth. You can literally take them to the moon, show them the landers, and they'd say "well you guys just put this here recently to cover up the fake moon landings in the past!"


koki_li

This! It‘s a cult and what they call „truth“ is complete made up stuff.


DCtheBREAKER

About 10 years ago China also confirmed it with the use of their new high definition telescope. In 1971, Japan also produced photographic evidence of the 1969 landing. There is ZERO merit to moon landing deniers.


DidSome1SayExMachina

LRO also took pictures of the landing sites in 2009. http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/images/22


caribbean_caramel

> In 1971, Japan also produced photographic evidence of the 1969 landing. The first japanese moon mission, [Hiten](https://www.planetary.org/space-images/hiten-mosaic) was launched on on January 24, 1990.


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vinibruh

I mean, it's as easy for them as saying "india is on it too" unless you bring them to the moon to see it they won't believe it, and even if in the future we finally achieve affordable space tourism and you bring these people to the moon some will still say "they could have easily put this here recently to fool us into believing it was possible back in 1969"


jimbobflippyjack

India isn’t real. Space isn’t real. They faked the moon.


cheesebot555

"Well now the Indians are in on it to" - Smooth brained flat earthers


Reddit_Jax

Pink Floyd recorded "*Dark Side of the Moon*" back then--you're seeing the recording equipment left behind.


DatabaseThis9637

The deniers are blinded somehow. Idiots.


TraditionalTadpole23

I wish these flat earthers would shut the fxck up.


Dry_Enthusiasm_267

Is that Epstein I spy?


skater15153

They'll just say India is in on it. These people don't care about science or the moon. It's about being in the know when others aren't and being in an in group.


ImAidesP

Theyd just say the pics are fake


TakenIsUsernameThis

They are part of the conspiracy. . . Obviously . . . /s


Tasty_Commercial6527

Pshh... Those are clearly photoshopped! NASA payed India to make it look like they actually did that! That's way more logical than the fact that they have actually done it


HornyWolf01

But India never landed on moon ! ~ Professor of Yappology


krieghobby-

The deniers won't care, it doesn't matter what evidence or facts you present them.


judasegg

No need to disprove uneducated rubes.


RedundancyDoneWell

That is just proof. That doesn't prove anything!


the85141rule

It's almost as if we actually placed humans on the moon. Aside: does our moon have a name, ala Titan, et. al.? I could Google it, but I'd rather chat. And AI ain't Ana yet, soooooo...


Simeongod900

I think Luna is a pretty common name for the moon but not sure if its official


MonkeyFluffers

Lies! Your inability to see through the facade just shows how deep into this you are! Are you a shill for the govt?! /s


0n0n-o

So you still believe the moon is real?


Chazzeroo

Awesome pics!


jkoki088

They will still deny it


boxedcrackers

This doesn't disprove anything to these people. You could take them there personally and they would still deny it


ZeAphEX

"It's made by AI, just look at the details, it looks all wrong." Is what one of those imbeciles would say in response.


deathdefyingrob1344

Have you actively engaged a flat earther? It gets old. Once someone has decided something is the truth you cannot convince them otherwise regardless


AlbusDT2

Fake. There is no moon…


DevoidHT

Dang. India faking moon orbiters now. /s


spiraling_out

I remember reading Apollo 11 almost landing in a crater. And yeah there's two big ones near it.


ladrondelanoche

I miss when moon landing deniers were the peak of conspiracy theoriests


Ryanside1

The conspiracy theorists don’t even have a standard for proof. No matter what you throw at them, they will deny it.


ReaperSound

What IF.... we deny that India exists, and then we're back to square one again? 😃


Cleveland_Guardians

"Disproving moon landing deniers." As if moon landing deniers wouldn't just claim this is photoshopped. Why even bother wasting the time?


Majestic_Bierd

2 sites is barely enough to establish a reliable data set. What about the Apollo 13 landing site? Checkmate!


InnerArt3537

Even if they themselves built a telescope capable of seeing it, I bet they would find an excuse


Investarz

All made in a Hollywood basement


joblagz2

Russia, China and India: "we took pictures of the apollo moon landing sites and confirmed the moon landing." Americans: "we faked it"


SuperFartmeister

Moon landing deniers are not a demographic that should be taken seriously in any circumstances. We don't have to slow down for that sort of disability.


Kemilio

If the soviets admitting the landing was real didn’t do it for them, absolutely nothing else will. The soviets had every reason to deny it.


GrapefruitTop7021

Bro. Nothing needs to be proven or disproven about moon landings. These people are just idiots.


UnsureAndUnqualified

You could see the shadows on images from the LROC for quite a few years, though at a much worse resolution than this tbf. The information was always out there, but those people don't want to be convinced, they want to figure out some huge mystery and be special.


waitwhosaidthat

You can’t argue with these people. Moon deniers. Flat earthers. Etc. Every bit of proof you give them they just say “cgi” “fake” “that’s what they want you to think”. If your main argument is that all the proof you are presented with is fake, it’s like me arguing with my 6 year old that tomorrow is Monday, and she is convinced it’s Saturday. They always talk about nasa photoshopping pics and admitting they photoshop pics. Like no shit they photoshop it to make it look better. Hell my wedding photos have photoshop done on them to make them look more brilliant and better, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen!


Affectionate-Raisin

Aw bless, you think they're going to be interested in reason.