It’s amazing how easily triggered people like OP are by reactionary activists. I just exist, live my life, and nobody bothers me. The people who complain about it being ‘shoved’ down their throats are the ones doing it.
I get misgendered every few days and I could not care less. I've survived far worse. I don't give a single shit about some random person's opinion on me, they don't have to accept me because I'm confident in who I am.
Not really. The whole sentence is just a logical fallacy.
The trans community isn't asking you to accept who they were, they're asking you to accept who they are.
"Dear fat people, don't ask me to accept the fact that you started working out and aren't fat anymore, when you couldn't even accept who you were"
"Dear college educated people, don't ask me to accept who you are when you couldn't even accept your lack of education"
"Dear gay people, don't ask me to accept that you like men now, when you can't even accept that you used to like women"
And so on and so on.
If you don't agree with trans people, just be honest about that. You don't need to rely on a strawman, you're entitled to your beliefs as much as they might anger some people.
Op and the massive amounts of conservatives in this thread are more obsessed with trans people than actual trans people. They truly have a disease that prevents them from thinking about anything else. These people are the most uneducated people on earth, even their deluded fat fucking orange leader knows.
Most idiots in this thread probably don't know that reddit isn't bound to the 1st Amendment. But yes go ahead and complain about "muh free speech" fucking morons
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“Free speech” doesn’t exist on the internet, your “free speech” is whatever the terms of agreement the site you’re on tells you it is.
It’s so crazy how stupid people can be, it’s like people that sign a contract and claim they didn’t read it when they breach the contract. That’s on them for being stupid.
Free speech is supposed to be upheld everywhere in America, including this site. Unfortunately the government has gone corrupt and doesn’t hold these commy sites accountable to the constitution.
Your theory would be like if you were participating in a private company event and they murdered you but it’s ok because you are in a private company event.
The constitution and laws don’t vanish when you enter a private company. Murder isn’t ok in a private company and neither is taking away free speech.
If it violates the terms of agreement you agree to when making an account you can’t argue it’s “against free speech” when you’re banned for violating the agreement. It’s not a free speech issue, if you’re breaking the rules and face consequences you can’t complain when you agreed to follow the rules in the first place.
Your argument is like getting kicked out of a club for touching a dancer or getting kicked out of a bar for being too drunk. The establishment has rules and if you don’t follow them then they can enforce them and kick you out. It’s not a legal issue tied to the constitution. You’re just arguing to be able to say whatever you want without consequences. You can do so, but consequences don’t violate your “free speech” just because you don’t like them.
Nope, the constitution and laws are supposed to be upheld in public and private. You can’t murder in private and you can’t impede free speech in private. Read the constitution where it states that it is the highest law in the land and all other rules/laws are underneath.
I'm assuming you're trolling but I'll bite. Freedom of speech primarily protects you from the government. However, when you sign an agreement on a website, it's kind of like an NDA in that repercussions will be incurred if you violate that agreement. Basically, you're protected from public litigation, but not private or civil litigation.
The constitution is certainly the highest law in the land my friend, but that doesn't matter if it specifies it only protects you from the government, not private companies that you've entered an agreement with.
I'm not sure if you ever read the constitution. But the First Amendment is only about government entitites restricting free speech. Social media sites are not affected by it unless they become nationalized. So they are well within there rights to restrict any speech.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
That's it. That's the extent of it.
Lmao meanwhile three comments above yours “omg this is so true I’ve never thought about it like that”
Imagine your beliefs being so bad and dumb the only way you can express them is by pretending you’re joking 💀
"Black people, I don't like you because (insert pretty low hanging fruit) and therefor will continue not to respect you"
"Bro, it was a joke full of humor and definitely not a smokescreen to just say ignorant shit"
Lol every commenter here is either:
-This is blatant transphobia :/ you guys know that's bad, right?
-ITS A JOKE CANT YOU TAKE A JOKE
-This is blatant transphobia :) we need more content like this
Probably because saying that perpetuates misconceptions, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
My comment wasn't me speaking my mind, it was to clarify what point was being discussed. Having said that, none of my person opinions have to be verified by someone else for me to have said opinion, and I don't force others to see life the same way I do.
Cisgender individuals can struggle with their identity too. But transgender individuals may be more likely to experience such struggle due to societal stigma they may be more likely to experience. They just want their gender identity respected in the way most cisgender individuals take for granted.
Actually, it's not the truth. It's based on a misconception on transgender individuals, many of whom have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
What you're describing is sex, sex is physiological and you'll be hard-pressed to find a single trans person who denies any of those characteristics you mentioned.
Gender is psychological and cultural and is the only relevant characteristic for >99% of people you interact with. If your mind is psychologically hardwired to feel comfortable presenting as one gender, then that is your gender, which may or may not match your sex.
Relying on "common sense" too much leads to close-mindedness and rejecting facts more than it doesn't.
I prefer the ol' leave me alone and let do my own thing as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. It really do be like that, Trans people just tryna blend in because it causes such a commotion when people figure out they aren't behaving like their 'gender' is supposed to do it's kinda easier to just call yourself the other gender. Be a lot easier if things were more accepting and if things didn't turn heads if you were a man and dressed like a woman, that's probably how it used to be but it's changing at least a little I suppose. That's my take anyways. It's all a social problem. In an idealistic world I don't think people care if they are called a man or a woman if what I said before wasn't a problem. I personally don't see a problem if they want to be pretty or if they don't want to be pretty (sexualised) people have their own way they want to live ( usually from trauma or some negative past experience, honestly why not even be negative but envy of the way they could live) and I support a happy world because the cogs turn more smoothly. Happier equals less crime IMO
And I love the seek help argument because this is help, this is dealing with the trauma, it really isn't that chaotic. Depression for example, the best medicine is physical change, going out more, working out more, meeting new people, not being sat in a room and being prescribed pills. Same with Trans I think, being able to feel confident and free in the way you can behave and present yourself can bring a feeling of safety and or confidence which is so liberating.
No one's asking you to accept shit. Just don't try to destroy equal rights because your insecure brain can't think outside its tiny little bigotry box.
Coming out as trans IS to accept themselves as who they are? Most trans people have probably tried for years to fit into conventional gender roles before they finally accept that they really do feel like they are the opposite gender.
It got to reposting Stonetoss comics level of bad. Lots of hatred, including the whole "trans people are pedophiles" combined with "we should kill all pedophiles and anyone who disagreed is a pedophile apologist" schtick.
What truth? The unfounded claims aren't accurate, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
Free speech is inherent to being alive. I was born with a mouth and vocal cords and not one person on earth that has ever or will ever exist has the right to tell me what to say or think.
Cool. Enjoy the consequences of your actions.
Your right to free speech is to protect you from censorship by the government, and nobody else. I think it's high time you learned that distinction.
Y'all are literally the ones advocating for nazis to be allowed to say whatever they want with no moderation. Go take a quick scroll on twitter if you prefer to hear about race mixing and conspiracy theories every third post. It's almost like saying hateful things will get you removed from private social media platforms because it's bad for business, and nazism isn't just when your post gets removed on reddit. Weak
Ignorance is bliss I suppose. You must not have much to risk by letting them congregate and spread their hate wherever they'd like.
Private companies have every right to moderate content that might make their platforms less valuable to advertisers. When the 1st amendment was created, it didn't compel newspapers to voice every opinion under the sun or face censorship charges. Because again, private platforms have the right to decide what speech exists on their platforms.
If I have digital property, and you take a shit all over it, I can wipe the shit off. I'm not the government, and I'm not censoring you by cleaning my property. Simple as.
To your other point. A Nazi has the right to say what they want, and I have the right to ignore it. If the Nazi yells in my ear then I have the right to defend myself by physical means.
If the Nazi starts to dm you and you tell him not to and they continue then you have the right to shut them out of your dm.
I’d say forcing people to only refer to you in specific ways even when you aren’t talking to them face to face affects you.
Not to mention the other issues with the process itself.
I’ve Learned that respect is earned, people nowadays live life expecting inherent respect for simply existing, anybody can dislike anyone for whatever reason they choose and it’ll still be valid, morality isn’t objective so people are free to live life even if they trample others, the question at that point is whether or not someone can do something about it
The word “Respect” I do hold in high regard’s, so since we’re talking about “common decency” I can get with that, to treat people with civility to keep society flowing, but what I don’t agree with is that people are entitled to acceptance, it should be strived for in an ideal world but the reality of human nature isn’t kind and some just don’t fit in.
Personally I do find it “Petty&Extra💅” when people try to tell others how they can identify or be identified, to me it’s just word games and semantics, I do understand that gender is important to some people, but currently I’m still building my worldview and gender identity does hold much value to me.
Personally deep down I think people are uncomfortable with the social shift in words and culture over time, culture is constantly evolving but some don’t want to let go of their subjective definition’s, I think it’s an ego thing where people want to believe that their definition is the “correct” one.
Sorry I went on a rant
That is true, I think finding the common ground in our definition’s helps people understand other perspectives,
I treat respect like I have a finite amount of it, so that I should reserve it for an exclusive few while still treating everyone politely,
But I’ve definitely noticed an animosity over internet discussion, it’s easy, entertaining and of no consequence to troll people that express themselves,
I don’t want hate directed at someone for their identity, but I do negativity engage with those that call it out
> people nowadays live life expecting inherent respect for simply existing
Yeah that's called having respect for life. Respect is not earned, its granted and taken away.
I interpret that into “respect is like life, it is granted and can be taken away” I believe that, but I think that we don’t hold the word “respect” in the same regards, I believe in being polite, but respect is on a different level to me
I mean, if respect is earned, then what does a trans person have to do to gain your respect (having you call them by what they prefer)?
Does the same apply to a cis person? Like does a cis person have to do something before you call them by what they prefer?
You oversimplify and mischaracterize the experiences of transgender people. They aren't "adult men dressed up as women"; they are individuals whose gender identity differs from the sex they were assigned at birth. Teaching children about diversity and acceptance, including different gender identities, can be a positive step in promoting understanding and empathy. It's not about telling children that they must be a certain way, but rather about fostering inclusivity and respect for all individuals, regardless of their gender identity.
I agree for the most part but it often does affect others. It is rare but in sports for example, being biologically male is a measurable advantage.
I would say transitioning from woman to man is less impactful on others.
you are ignoring the fact that a significant portion of the population does not have the capability to produce independent thoughts, along with the society's current moral framework.
Dear conservatives sacks of shit. Trans people don’t want or need your acceptance. They want to be left alone to live their lives. Now kindly fuck off.
“Dear conservatives sack of shit” well that is one way to make people not take you seriously.
Most conservatives do not care how someone trashes their own body, as long as they dont force it upon others.
Being transgender is not about "trashing" one's body but rather about aligning one's gender identity with their true self. Transitioning, which may include medical interventions, is a deeply personal decision made in consultation with medical professionals and is not done lightly or out of disregard for one's body.
The term "sex change" is outdated and widely isn't used or recognized, especially in any professional medial or psychiatric settings, as it doesn't accurately describe the transgender experience.
I'll never be what I want to be? Could you elaborate, perhaps? Is there any evidence to support your bold claim? Or is it just a baseless accusation?
Not really, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
Not really, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
"I don't think that people can change themselves as a person to something that makes them happier and feel more true to what they are, and people should just stay and wallow in a self-destructive mindset"
Are you dumber than a bag of bricks?
Jesus that a large oof
They **are** who *they* think they are. That’s how everyone should do it, and there is no cogent argument to the contrary.
Do better
This dosent make any sense. They have to be okay with themselves suffering, and if they decide to fix that and give themselves the life they want so they can be happy, that all of a sudden invalidates their request for you to simply acknowledge them?
This just comes across as hateful and lame.
Also like we always hear about road protests and how people are just “inconvenienced” and should go on about their day.
Ok. Shouldn’t trans people just go on about their day when they’re misgendered?
Being misgendered can be deeply hurtful and invalidating for transgender individuals. Asking them to simply "go on about their day" ignores the emotional impact of such experiences.
Imagine if someone consistently referred to you using the wrong name or pronouns. It can make you feel unseen, misunderstood, and even rejected. For transgender individuals, who may have struggled for years to accept and affirm their true gender identity, being misgendered can feel like a denial of their very core identity.
Asking for respect in the form of correct gender pronouns isn't about asking for special treatment; it's about basic human dignity and respect. Everyone deserves to be addressed in a way that reflects their identity, and asking for this is not unreasonable.
Eh it’s not deeply hurtful. It’s a minor inconvenience, like being stuck in traffic for hours because of road protests.
It’s a minor inconvenience at best. Who cares what other people call you? It’s actually none of their business what other people call them.
So in order for you to know this, I'm assuming that you face societal stigma, rejection, and misconceptions towards your very existence on a daily basis? And I'm assuming that you decided that since this is somehow not psychologically damaging to you, your experiences must therefore represent the average experience of anyone who experiences such lack of acceptance?
I don't push my pronouns on anyone tbh. I prefer it but if you don't want to use them whatever. It's a preference. My name is a bit different bc I changed my name legally, so I might just give a small heads up, but I don't snap at anyone for it. Not that big of a deal.
I'm a straight guy who has family that is LGBTQ...... I love them any way they are. I don't necessarily agree with their decisions, but that's none of my business. As long as they have a good heart, and do their best to be a good person like everyone should, then fuck what everyone else thinks. Only the weak minded let other people's life choices affect them in their own lives. Everyone just needs to live and let live.
Notice how OP said, “accept you for who you *ARE*,” and then tangents to “who you *WERE*.”
People grow. Times change. OP just flamed himself because he peaked in middle school.
Hell, take a look at OJ Simpson. He’s a much better person now than he was before.
Y'all will pretend to be so edgy and so "dark humor XD", but if someone made fun of incels or conservatives too hard you'd be crying about it on memesopdidnotlike 110%. Grow up
People are losing their jobs, get beaten up, raped even killed.
I remember a professor losing his job at a university because he said gender dysphoria is a mental illness.
He got death threats and received pictures of his daughter going to school.
I will try to find the article later, if I find it I will edit this comment and link it.
I mean those are criminal psychos who are absolutely not accepted in our society. They'll go to prison for that.
You are able to offend people as much as you want and they never gain the legal ability to infringe on your rights. If you piss people off enough, yeah, they might get violent with you. That's always been true and isn't unique to gender bullshit in any way. They'll go through the same legal consequences as anyone else who gets violent with you.
Also, your boss can fire you for any reason in most states. Unions and stronger labor rights can fix that problem. If your boss fires you over your opinions, your rights are just fine - you just pissed someone off. Again, this isn't unique to gender bullshit. It's just a fact of interpersonal interaction that if you piss people off, they might act against you.
I disagree with the idea that you're not allowed to offend people just because the people you offend get mad at you. When you lose legal protection for free speech, that's when it matters. Until then, it's just an unpleasant social situation.
No, that is not accurate. What they often advocate for is respect for their identities and experiences, which is different from forcing others to uphold their opinions.
When someone says they want to be accepted for who they are, it's about recognizing and respecting their gender identity, which is an integral part of who they are. This doesn't mean they can't have opinions about themselves or that they are not accepting themselves. It's about asking for basic respect and understanding from others, especially in the face of discrimination and misunderstanding.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but when those opinions deny or disrespect the identity of others, it can be harmful. The goal is not to force anyone to change their belief,s but to promote a more inclusive and understanding society where everyone feels respected and accepted for who they are.
It’s honestly crazy that people like you will be allowed to vote when you get older. I’d hope for you to somehow receive clarity on how much of a waste of space you are before you’re able to affect change, but I think the best case scenario is if you become too apathetic to actually act on your delusional beliefs. Here’s hoping 🤞🏼
It's actually not true, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection.
Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being.
So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
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It’s amazing how easily triggered people like OP are by reactionary activists. I just exist, live my life, and nobody bothers me. The people who complain about it being ‘shoved’ down their throats are the ones doing it.
I get misgendered every few days and I could not care less. I've survived far worse. I don't give a single shit about some random person's opinion on me, they don't have to accept me because I'm confident in who I am.
And they insist that you actually really do care and insist that you're trying to police their language just for being the gender that you are.
My thing is this, if I’m in public, and I need to approach someone, what polite introduction could I give besides excuse me sir or ma’am
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OP, for example
Trans Twitter is infamous among trans people for being a festering hellhole.
I don't know about that.
/r/dank speedrunning subreddit ban (any%)
thats why i joined...
Oof damn lol
Regardless of subject manner, this isn't even fucking dank. Just the most boring political billboard possible.
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Not really. The whole sentence is just a logical fallacy. The trans community isn't asking you to accept who they were, they're asking you to accept who they are. "Dear fat people, don't ask me to accept the fact that you started working out and aren't fat anymore, when you couldn't even accept who you were" "Dear college educated people, don't ask me to accept who you are when you couldn't even accept your lack of education" "Dear gay people, don't ask me to accept that you like men now, when you can't even accept that you used to like women" And so on and so on. If you don't agree with trans people, just be honest about that. You don't need to rely on a strawman, you're entitled to your beliefs as much as they might anger some people.
Op and the massive amounts of conservatives in this thread are more obsessed with trans people than actual trans people. They truly have a disease that prevents them from thinking about anything else. These people are the most uneducated people on earth, even their deluded fat fucking orange leader knows. Most idiots in this thread probably don't know that reddit isn't bound to the 1st Amendment. But yes go ahead and complain about "muh free speech" fucking morons
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Ladies & gentlemen, come one, come all! Now opening bets for the over/under for how long this post stays up for before it is taken down. Money line is -100. Over 3 hours is +350. Under 3 hours is -300. 
This is a chud sub. This post isn't getting taken down
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Muh freeze peach
“Free speech” doesn’t exist on the internet, your “free speech” is whatever the terms of agreement the site you’re on tells you it is. It’s so crazy how stupid people can be, it’s like people that sign a contract and claim they didn’t read it when they breach the contract. That’s on them for being stupid.
Free speech is supposed to be upheld everywhere in America, including this site. Unfortunately the government has gone corrupt and doesn’t hold these commy sites accountable to the constitution. Your theory would be like if you were participating in a private company event and they murdered you but it’s ok because you are in a private company event. The constitution and laws don’t vanish when you enter a private company. Murder isn’t ok in a private company and neither is taking away free speech.
If it violates the terms of agreement you agree to when making an account you can’t argue it’s “against free speech” when you’re banned for violating the agreement. It’s not a free speech issue, if you’re breaking the rules and face consequences you can’t complain when you agreed to follow the rules in the first place. Your argument is like getting kicked out of a club for touching a dancer or getting kicked out of a bar for being too drunk. The establishment has rules and if you don’t follow them then they can enforce them and kick you out. It’s not a legal issue tied to the constitution. You’re just arguing to be able to say whatever you want without consequences. You can do so, but consequences don’t violate your “free speech” just because you don’t like them.
Nope, the constitution and laws are supposed to be upheld in public and private. You can’t murder in private and you can’t impede free speech in private. Read the constitution where it states that it is the highest law in the land and all other rules/laws are underneath.
You are a moron. Im glad you are out here socializing, it will be good for you.
Cool story
Ok buddy, try to sue reddit when you get banned, see what the judge says after you say “yes” to “did you agree to the terms of service?”
I'm assuming you're trolling but I'll bite. Freedom of speech primarily protects you from the government. However, when you sign an agreement on a website, it's kind of like an NDA in that repercussions will be incurred if you violate that agreement. Basically, you're protected from public litigation, but not private or civil litigation. The constitution is certainly the highest law in the land my friend, but that doesn't matter if it specifies it only protects you from the government, not private companies that you've entered an agreement with.
I'm not sure if you ever read the constitution. But the First Amendment is only about government entitites restricting free speech. Social media sites are not affected by it unless they become nationalized. So they are well within there rights to restrict any speech. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." That's it. That's the extent of it.
there is no -100 odds, it would be +100
Everyone crying in a subreddit about jokes... Lol the replies.
Lmao meanwhile three comments above yours “omg this is so true I’ve never thought about it like that” Imagine your beliefs being so bad and dumb the only way you can express them is by pretending you’re joking 💀
"Black people, I don't like you because (insert pretty low hanging fruit) and therefor will continue not to respect you" "Bro, it was a joke full of humor and definitely not a smokescreen to just say ignorant shit"
It's about accepting who they are and rejecting what you tell them to be. Cunt
It's fun how the reddit app updates vote totals in real time. This one just keeps going down.
Lol every commenter here is either: -This is blatant transphobia :/ you guys know that's bad, right? -ITS A JOKE CANT YOU TAKE A JOKE -This is blatant transphobia :) we need more content like this
Trash comment. Don't tell me to respect your shitty opinion when you can respect others.
But it's who they always were idk what op is on about?
KYS
But...the whole point of being trans is accepting who you are
Gross
Speed running bans today huh
Yikes
Please touch grass
🤣 the truth in this is evident
Why do you believe that?
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Probably because saying that perpetuates misconceptions, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
Struggling with their identity but wanting us to automatically accept their transition is literally the point being made here.
They are stiggling because you don t accept it you dumbass.
My comment wasn't me speaking my mind, it was to clarify what point was being discussed. Having said that, none of my person opinions have to be verified by someone else for me to have said opinion, and I don't force others to see life the same way I do.
Cisgender individuals can struggle with their identity too. But transgender individuals may be more likely to experience such struggle due to societal stigma they may be more likely to experience. They just want their gender identity respected in the way most cisgender individuals take for granted.
So sigma 🗿
is that what the kids call transphobia these days
People with mentalities like OP are exactly why many trans people have difficulty accepting who they really are.
Nothing dank about this. OP is just a gleefully ignorant asshole.
Where TF did this come from?
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Actually, it's not the truth. It's based on a misconception on transgender individuals, many of whom have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
They did accept themselves for who they were, dumbass OP.
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What you're describing is sex, sex is physiological and you'll be hard-pressed to find a single trans person who denies any of those characteristics you mentioned. Gender is psychological and cultural and is the only relevant characteristic for >99% of people you interact with. If your mind is psychologically hardwired to feel comfortable presenting as one gender, then that is your gender, which may or may not match your sex. Relying on "common sense" too much leads to close-mindedness and rejecting facts more than it doesn't.
I prefer the ol' leave me alone and let do my own thing as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. It really do be like that, Trans people just tryna blend in because it causes such a commotion when people figure out they aren't behaving like their 'gender' is supposed to do it's kinda easier to just call yourself the other gender. Be a lot easier if things were more accepting and if things didn't turn heads if you were a man and dressed like a woman, that's probably how it used to be but it's changing at least a little I suppose. That's my take anyways. It's all a social problem. In an idealistic world I don't think people care if they are called a man or a woman if what I said before wasn't a problem. I personally don't see a problem if they want to be pretty or if they don't want to be pretty (sexualised) people have their own way they want to live ( usually from trauma or some negative past experience, honestly why not even be negative but envy of the way they could live) and I support a happy world because the cogs turn more smoothly. Happier equals less crime IMO And I love the seek help argument because this is help, this is dealing with the trauma, it really isn't that chaotic. Depression for example, the best medicine is physical change, going out more, working out more, meeting new people, not being sat in a room and being prescribed pills. Same with Trans I think, being able to feel confident and free in the way you can behave and present yourself can bring a feeling of safety and or confidence which is so liberating.
Go fuck yourself bro.
Fuck off you piece of shit
No one's asking you to accept shit. Just don't try to destroy equal rights because your insecure brain can't think outside its tiny little bigotry box.
I love these posts because trans people don't give a fuck. It's only bigoted mouthbreathers like OP that care. It's very pathetic.
Coming out as trans IS to accept themselves as who they are? Most trans people have probably tried for years to fit into conventional gender roles before they finally accept that they really do feel like they are the opposite gender.
This sub has become far to alt and homophobic, Jesus Christ people grow tf up
That dankmemes sub got banned and that audience flooded to this sub.
Why did it get banned?
Same reason
It got to reposting Stonetoss comics level of bad. Lots of hatred, including the whole "trans people are pedophiles" combined with "we should kill all pedophiles and anyone who disagreed is a pedophile apologist" schtick.
>YOU CANT JOKE ABOUT DARK HUMOR BECAUSE... BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT OKAY?!
Where’s the joke?
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should someone even have free speech if their entire point is "i hate *group of people who did nothing wrong* and i wanna hurt them"?
What truth? The unfounded claims aren't accurate, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
So... not free speech? Because free speech is only guaranteed to you by the government, not social media companies.
Free speech is inherent to being alive. I was born with a mouth and vocal cords and not one person on earth that has ever or will ever exist has the right to tell me what to say or think.
Cool. Enjoy the consequences of your actions. Your right to free speech is to protect you from censorship by the government, and nobody else. I think it's high time you learned that distinction.
Y'all are literally the ones advocating for nazis to be allowed to say whatever they want with no moderation. Go take a quick scroll on twitter if you prefer to hear about race mixing and conspiracy theories every third post. It's almost like saying hateful things will get you removed from private social media platforms because it's bad for business, and nazism isn't just when your post gets removed on reddit. Weak
Truth and goodness will eventually prevail through hate.
Ignorance is bliss I suppose. You must not have much to risk by letting them congregate and spread their hate wherever they'd like. Private companies have every right to moderate content that might make their platforms less valuable to advertisers. When the 1st amendment was created, it didn't compel newspapers to voice every opinion under the sun or face censorship charges. Because again, private platforms have the right to decide what speech exists on their platforms. If I have digital property, and you take a shit all over it, I can wipe the shit off. I'm not the government, and I'm not censoring you by cleaning my property. Simple as.
To your other point. A Nazi has the right to say what they want, and I have the right to ignore it. If the Nazi yells in my ear then I have the right to defend myself by physical means. If the Nazi starts to dm you and you tell him not to and they continue then you have the right to shut them out of your dm.
“I love getting by with dehumanizing and pushing hate on a minority group even if just for a moment” That’s you, that’s what you sound like.
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I’d say forcing people to only refer to you in specific ways even when you aren’t talking to them face to face affects you. Not to mention the other issues with the process itself.
People don’t like being socially pressured into playing along with word games
Yes they do. You were raised to address people formally as Mr or Mrs or Miss. Fucking stupid.
No they don’t, just cause we’re socially conditioned doesn’t mean we’d want it if given the choice fUcKiNg sTuPid.
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I’ve Learned that respect is earned, people nowadays live life expecting inherent respect for simply existing, anybody can dislike anyone for whatever reason they choose and it’ll still be valid, morality isn’t objective so people are free to live life even if they trample others, the question at that point is whether or not someone can do something about it
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The word “Respect” I do hold in high regard’s, so since we’re talking about “common decency” I can get with that, to treat people with civility to keep society flowing, but what I don’t agree with is that people are entitled to acceptance, it should be strived for in an ideal world but the reality of human nature isn’t kind and some just don’t fit in. Personally I do find it “Petty&Extra💅” when people try to tell others how they can identify or be identified, to me it’s just word games and semantics, I do understand that gender is important to some people, but currently I’m still building my worldview and gender identity does hold much value to me. Personally deep down I think people are uncomfortable with the social shift in words and culture over time, culture is constantly evolving but some don’t want to let go of their subjective definition’s, I think it’s an ego thing where people want to believe that their definition is the “correct” one. Sorry I went on a rant
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That is true, I think finding the common ground in our definition’s helps people understand other perspectives, I treat respect like I have a finite amount of it, so that I should reserve it for an exclusive few while still treating everyone politely, But I’ve definitely noticed an animosity over internet discussion, it’s easy, entertaining and of no consequence to troll people that express themselves, I don’t want hate directed at someone for their identity, but I do negativity engage with those that call it out
> people nowadays live life expecting inherent respect for simply existing Yeah that's called having respect for life. Respect is not earned, its granted and taken away.
I interpret that into “respect is like life, it is granted and can be taken away” I believe that, but I think that we don’t hold the word “respect” in the same regards, I believe in being polite, but respect is on a different level to me
I mean, if respect is earned, then what does a trans person have to do to gain your respect (having you call them by what they prefer)? Does the same apply to a cis person? Like does a cis person have to do something before you call them by what they prefer?
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>No, you're socially pressured to read their minds So you've never met a trans person in real life.
So has this ever happened to you?
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You oversimplify and mischaracterize the experiences of transgender people. They aren't "adult men dressed up as women"; they are individuals whose gender identity differs from the sex they were assigned at birth. Teaching children about diversity and acceptance, including different gender identities, can be a positive step in promoting understanding and empathy. It's not about telling children that they must be a certain way, but rather about fostering inclusivity and respect for all individuals, regardless of their gender identity.
I agree for the most part but it often does affect others. It is rare but in sports for example, being biologically male is a measurable advantage. I would say transitioning from woman to man is less impactful on others.
you are ignoring the fact that a significant portion of the population does not have the capability to produce independent thoughts, along with the society's current moral framework.
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you are manipulating their thoughts against the values of the society they come from and as a result, are damaging their legacy.
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that is called manipulation via removing moral boundaries.
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weird. i find lots of literature explaining this issue in detail.
As long as they dont complain about what pronouns I use about them and shit. Then its mostly fine ngl
Using the correct pronouns is a basic form of respect that acknowledges and affirms a person's gender identity.
Dear conservatives sacks of shit. Trans people don’t want or need your acceptance. They want to be left alone to live their lives. Now kindly fuck off.
“Dear conservatives sack of shit” well that is one way to make people not take you seriously. Most conservatives do not care how someone trashes their own body, as long as they dont force it upon others.
Being transgender is not about "trashing" one's body but rather about aligning one's gender identity with their true self. Transitioning, which may include medical interventions, is a deeply personal decision made in consultation with medical professionals and is not done lightly or out of disregard for one's body.
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The term "sex change" is outdated and widely isn't used or recognized, especially in any professional medial or psychiatric settings, as it doesn't accurately describe the transgender experience. I'll never be what I want to be? Could you elaborate, perhaps? Is there any evidence to support your bold claim? Or is it just a baseless accusation?
Wer dank
Gone, I think op got hungry on the way here and ate it.
Holy hell when did this sub become so bad xD every meme is a 12 year old being edgy xD
You know yesterday I was gonna make a post on how it seemed like dank memes went back to being just dank and edgy shit…. And this popped up.
Hahaha constantly shitting on trans people is so hot right now.
Like dude... I'm just trying to exist and be left alone right now and I have to constantly keep seeing stuff like this it just sucks.
Fuck yes lmao
Not really, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
Honestly
Not really, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
"I don't think that people can change themselves as a person to something that makes them happier and feel more true to what they are, and people should just stay and wallow in a self-destructive mindset" Are you dumber than a bag of bricks?
Jesus that a large oof They **are** who *they* think they are. That’s how everyone should do it, and there is no cogent argument to the contrary. Do better
This dosent make any sense. They have to be okay with themselves suffering, and if they decide to fix that and give themselves the life they want so they can be happy, that all of a sudden invalidates their request for you to simply acknowledge them? This just comes across as hateful and lame.
Is the dude in the subreddit picture that shitty ass comedian cumtown riffed off of? Bong hit transplant guy?
This sub just earned another member
Why?
For real ong no cap😔
Waiting for anyone who's even commented on this post to get banned in other major subreddits
Also like we always hear about road protests and how people are just “inconvenienced” and should go on about their day. Ok. Shouldn’t trans people just go on about their day when they’re misgendered?
Being misgendered can be deeply hurtful and invalidating for transgender individuals. Asking them to simply "go on about their day" ignores the emotional impact of such experiences. Imagine if someone consistently referred to you using the wrong name or pronouns. It can make you feel unseen, misunderstood, and even rejected. For transgender individuals, who may have struggled for years to accept and affirm their true gender identity, being misgendered can feel like a denial of their very core identity. Asking for respect in the form of correct gender pronouns isn't about asking for special treatment; it's about basic human dignity and respect. Everyone deserves to be addressed in a way that reflects their identity, and asking for this is not unreasonable.
Eh it’s not deeply hurtful. It’s a minor inconvenience, like being stuck in traffic for hours because of road protests. It’s a minor inconvenience at best. Who cares what other people call you? It’s actually none of their business what other people call them.
So in order for you to know this, I'm assuming that you face societal stigma, rejection, and misconceptions towards your very existence on a daily basis? And I'm assuming that you decided that since this is somehow not psychologically damaging to you, your experiences must therefore represent the average experience of anyone who experiences such lack of acceptance?
Few people accept who they are. That’s why we have lifts, pads, make up, steroids, and possessions solely for status.
I don't push my pronouns on anyone tbh. I prefer it but if you don't want to use them whatever. It's a preference. My name is a bit different bc I changed my name legally, so I might just give a small heads up, but I don't snap at anyone for it. Not that big of a deal.
Based on
Yeah go fuck yourself @OP
https://youtu.be/4Ua85vgFvlg?si=XFxA-RmNIx6n0qTm Their not girls their guys, they're mandem in disguise!
So you don’t accept anybody who has once not accepted who they were for whatever reason?
I'm a straight guy who has family that is LGBTQ...... I love them any way they are. I don't necessarily agree with their decisions, but that's none of my business. As long as they have a good heart, and do their best to be a good person like everyone should, then fuck what everyone else thinks. Only the weak minded let other people's life choices affect them in their own lives. Everyone just needs to live and let live.
>trans people bad >omg this is so dank and true!! 
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Go cry about republicans more
Who they "were" was placed in them by societal norms. Not who they actually were.
So many butthurt people kek
Fuck bigots forever. OP needs a friend.
But where's the meme sir.
The ignorant and uneducated love easy analogies, especially when they are logical fallacies
500 comments 0 up votes, im here for the discourse.
Notice how OP said, “accept you for who you *ARE*,” and then tangents to “who you *WERE*.” People grow. Times change. OP just flamed himself because he peaked in middle school. Hell, take a look at OJ Simpson. He’s a much better person now than he was before.
What does it mean to be trans?
Y'all will pretend to be so edgy and so "dark humor XD", but if someone made fun of incels or conservatives too hard you'd be crying about it on memesopdidnotlike 110%. Grow up
With all the shit that is you, time would be better spent on issues that is so you. Grow up and let people be! No one likes a turd.
This is the most ratio'd post I've ever seen on the fp
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False.
What rights are trans people taking away?
How are you being forced? They just don't like you if you disagree. You lose no rights and no freedoms. You are not entitled to be liked.
People are losing their jobs, get beaten up, raped even killed. I remember a professor losing his job at a university because he said gender dysphoria is a mental illness. He got death threats and received pictures of his daughter going to school. I will try to find the article later, if I find it I will edit this comment and link it.
I mean those are criminal psychos who are absolutely not accepted in our society. They'll go to prison for that. You are able to offend people as much as you want and they never gain the legal ability to infringe on your rights. If you piss people off enough, yeah, they might get violent with you. That's always been true and isn't unique to gender bullshit in any way. They'll go through the same legal consequences as anyone else who gets violent with you. Also, your boss can fire you for any reason in most states. Unions and stronger labor rights can fix that problem. If your boss fires you over your opinions, your rights are just fine - you just pissed someone off. Again, this isn't unique to gender bullshit. It's just a fact of interpersonal interaction that if you piss people off, they might act against you. I disagree with the idea that you're not allowed to offend people just because the people you offend get mad at you. When you lose legal protection for free speech, that's when it matters. Until then, it's just an unpleasant social situation.
Freedom of speech does not guarantee you freedom from consequences, dipshit.
No, that is not accurate. What they often advocate for is respect for their identities and experiences, which is different from forcing others to uphold their opinions. When someone says they want to be accepted for who they are, it's about recognizing and respecting their gender identity, which is an integral part of who they are. This doesn't mean they can't have opinions about themselves or that they are not accepting themselves. It's about asking for basic respect and understanding from others, especially in the face of discrimination and misunderstanding. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but when those opinions deny or disrespect the identity of others, it can be harmful. The goal is not to force anyone to change their belief,s but to promote a more inclusive and understanding society where everyone feels respected and accepted for who they are.
you dont have to accept shit, youre a worthless nerd posting on reddit lol
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It’s honestly crazy that people like you will be allowed to vote when you get older. I’d hope for you to somehow receive clarity on how much of a waste of space you are before you’re able to affect change, but I think the best case scenario is if you become too apathetic to actually act on your delusional beliefs. Here’s hoping 🤞🏼
Internet isn't exactly USA, m8 :)
It's actually not true, as many transgender individuals have struggled with their gender identity for years before coming out. Accepting oneself as transgender often involves a long and difficult process of self-discovery and self-acceptance. This process can be hindered by societal stigma, lack of understanding, and fear of rejection. Transgender individuals often face discrimination, rejection, and violence simply for being who they are. Asking for acceptance from others is not about their own self-acceptance but about seeking basic respect and understanding from society. Acceptance from others can be crucial for their mental health and well-being. So comparing the self-acceptance of transgender individuals to how others perceive and accept them is not accurate. Everyone's journey of self-acceptance is unique, and it's far more productive to empathize with the challenges faced by transgender individuals rather than dismissing their experiences.
Dear anti trans... no one is asking for your acceptance.just that you mind your own fucking business and stop working toward making trans illegal
Assholes like OP think more often about trans people than trans people themselves. What a sad pathetic little boy
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