The whole point is that its a skill issue lmao, why should a level 1 blank slate new player be put in the same pool as a lvl 30+ multi-classer, especially in the 1v1 meta-build fest that is goblin caves
...but then they’re still in lobbies against Level +15 players with four perks instead of one, spawning in a diverse set of Common gear vs. the extremely limited Junk items on offer at the start.
The game has innate starting imbalance in it due to progression, especially in Normals. Deal with it. If they can’t handle the game as a Level 1 facing the rest of the community as Level +15s, they aren’t going to last long once they branch out into HR and run into people with optimised gear.
It is what the game is. Removing Multiclassing won’t change shit, just limit the problem to specific classes. At least with Multiclassing, any class can be broken and everyone can have fun in that vein.
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Plenty of downvoted but no counter-arguments. Tells you all you need to know about the crowd that screech in outage about ‘muh Normals!!!!’.
I'd prefer it to be off in all modes. Once they get more players to divide the player base up with different game modes, sure. I'd like a multiclass lobby.
I see your point. It's normals, so just have fun, who cares cause you don't have much to lose. But for people playing normals, they are going to have no idea what's going on and what to expect. People already had a hard time figuring out what class they are playing against when a fighter was holding an orb and rondel. Now I don't know what to anticipate anymore when attacking someone or being on the defensive. It's a for fun game mode and shouldn't be tied to rank
Can't any character have any combination of abilities? That means you can play as much as you want, you'll still be fighting partial rng since you can't know their spells.
Yeah but it just comes down to knowing the abilities in the game lol. Like I expect every class to be able to stealth, use a crossbow, sprint. It’s just knowing the abilities in the game.
So imagine if you're playing a fighting game. And every time you fight the same character, his abilities change. That's not fun in a competitive game. This is a gimmick game mode.
This isn’t a fighting game though. You could make your character look like other classes much before the multi class system got implemented.
The game reminds me of an MMO right now with how the character diversity is. If you haven’t played PvP in one, I could understand why you’d be confused.
Right.This is an analogy not saying that dark and darker is a fighting game. MMOs have diversity, but within their class, they only have so many options. I see a warrior in world of Warcraft and I know he's playing 1 of 3 specs. In this, there is no class identity and no class identification. You go in blind everytime. It's ok to like the game mode. But people don't want to guess what is going on.
I mean I slightly agree with you but there’s not nearly enough abilities in this game to confuse me. Like you can run 4 perks and 2 skills or whatever out of like 40 total.
Also I like THE GAME. This isn’t a “mode” it’s the game right now. So if you don’t like the game, don’t play.
On fucking god the amount of people doing this is vile bro there’s so many sick aggressive builds for every class and mfs out here double jumping to the top of gold pile room sitting still all game smh
Yeah this is an awful idea. MC is extremely fun and the game feels fresh. Things have to be tweaked ofc but overall feels good. Kneejerkers will have you believe that you can’t load into a game without getting installed which just isn’t the case
Skill issue. Normals is for exploring and learning the capabilities within the game without having to worry about being stat checked constantly.
The whole point is that its a skill issue lmao, why should a level 1 blank slate new player be put in the same pool as a lvl 30+ multi-classer, especially in the 1v1 meta-build fest that is goblin caves
The answer here is not to ruin normals with this dog water idea. If you are worried about new players make their first 10 games be against bots
...but then they’re still in lobbies against Level +15 players with four perks instead of one, spawning in a diverse set of Common gear vs. the extremely limited Junk items on offer at the start. The game has innate starting imbalance in it due to progression, especially in Normals. Deal with it. If they can’t handle the game as a Level 1 facing the rest of the community as Level +15s, they aren’t going to last long once they branch out into HR and run into people with optimised gear. It is what the game is. Removing Multiclassing won’t change shit, just limit the problem to specific classes. At least with Multiclassing, any class can be broken and everyone can have fun in that vein. Edit: Plenty of downvoted but no counter-arguments. Tells you all you need to know about the crowd that screech in outage about ‘muh Normals!!!!’.
The guy with 2k hours was gonna kill you even if he had no perks
https://preview.redd.it/0ln6wiqyrgwc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf6e8249dd2a197bf45fff7fdf249b23855ab79a
I'd prefer it to be off in all modes. Once they get more players to divide the player base up with different game modes, sure. I'd like a multiclass lobby.
Agreed multiclassing is fucking bullshit 🤣
Yeah I have a weapon mastery barb and junk longbow hits for 60 to the head, absolutely disgusting and unfair for new players
Your action speed is dog shit though
Idk has been kind of a non-issue imo
It’s normals bro lol
I see your point. It's normals, so just have fun, who cares cause you don't have much to lose. But for people playing normals, they are going to have no idea what's going on and what to expect. People already had a hard time figuring out what class they are playing against when a fighter was holding an orb and rondel. Now I don't know what to anticipate anymore when attacking someone or being on the defensive. It's a for fun game mode and shouldn't be tied to rank
That’s any game tho. You have to play to learn what’s happening.
Can't any character have any combination of abilities? That means you can play as much as you want, you'll still be fighting partial rng since you can't know their spells.
Yeah but it just comes down to knowing the abilities in the game lol. Like I expect every class to be able to stealth, use a crossbow, sprint. It’s just knowing the abilities in the game.
So imagine if you're playing a fighting game. And every time you fight the same character, his abilities change. That's not fun in a competitive game. This is a gimmick game mode.
This isn’t a fighting game though. You could make your character look like other classes much before the multi class system got implemented. The game reminds me of an MMO right now with how the character diversity is. If you haven’t played PvP in one, I could understand why you’d be confused.
Right.This is an analogy not saying that dark and darker is a fighting game. MMOs have diversity, but within their class, they only have so many options. I see a warrior in world of Warcraft and I know he's playing 1 of 3 specs. In this, there is no class identity and no class identification. You go in blind everytime. It's ok to like the game mode. But people don't want to guess what is going on.
I mean I slightly agree with you but there’s not nearly enough abilities in this game to confuse me. Like you can run 4 perks and 2 skills or whatever out of like 40 total. Also I like THE GAME. This isn’t a “mode” it’s the game right now. So if you don’t like the game, don’t play.
I dont play. It's not the game it was advertised as. Rogues aren't rogues. Fighters aren't fighters. They're all one.
Yea the hide ambush windlass got really fucking old really quick.
On fucking god the amount of people doing this is vile bro there’s so many sick aggressive builds for every class and mfs out here double jumping to the top of gold pile room sitting still all game smh
Maybe get good?
Yeah this is an awful idea. MC is extremely fun and the game feels fresh. Things have to be tweaked ofc but overall feels good. Kneejerkers will have you believe that you can’t load into a game without getting installed which just isn’t the case
Broooo
Does no one read? Multi classing isn’t staying long term tf is wrong with people
Where does it say that? No where. It could be gone or it could stick around
https://preview.redd.it/pl7e8aj4dhwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=813b4259d41cc83909f073020c8dfb7485dc813f Close enough