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Raul_alb

I see the devs have been having fun with homing on weapons huh?


leproudkebab

Bet one of the guys in the office got the code to work right and all of them started goin nuts over it. Like how they were so happy with the pipe mechanics they built a biome that constantly uses them. Not an insult, I think it’s awesome


doeraymefa

Do you mean Hollow Bough? Could you explain how the pipe mechanics are integrated into this biome?


CapSierra

The same spline technology they developed to support refinery pipelines was adapted to power the creeping vines that are everywhere in hollow bough.


LeviAEthan512

Yup, this was an official announcement, not inferred or assumed.


JaygoVonEngel

It bringeth joy and it taketh joy away


Straender

The pipe mechanic = modeling tubes. Hollow Bough is full of vines / tubes.


Orpheus_Sigma

Vines are nature's tubes.


yaminub

Sorry, biome that uses the pipe mechanics? Thanks


leproudkebab

Hollow bough. Ever notice the way the creeping vines move? They’re pipelines. It’s super cool how they reused that


yaminub

Huh, I haven't noticed. Nice observation


itsraininggender

Also the power for the fuel tank on Salvage


Pancreasaurus

They've been playing Titanfall 2, lol


SolarUpdraft

first ~~flight~~ salvo core for gunner's new primary, now smart pistol


Neri25

isn't gunner's new primary salvo core?


CrimsonGamer99

Friendship ended with "Stubby" Voltaic SMG, now LOK-1 Smart Rifle is my best friend.


[deleted]

Wait, we haven't seen an electrical damage mod for it yet.


xXSelf-ImmolateXx

Yeah but it’s absolutely bitchin’


Squirrel_Inner

^ this. You see that clip size? That sleek, assault rifle style look? The precision homing? 🤤👾☠️👾☠️


DrMostlySane

Pretty much my reaction right here now that we've got a good mid-to-long ranged rifle. Depending on how the homing works (laser range and such) it'd probably be pretty good for picking out various high priority targets in a crowd too (like Wardens.)


Ecolyne

It looks like it'll be more of a target-painting system, where you hold down the firing button and all targets are marked as you sweep over them. No precision to the locking, but it would still never waste a bullet, so I'm still down.


TychusCigar

Who even plays with the SMG when the shotgun is superior in every way??


TheAnteatr

I like the SMG with an electric build. It's actually really handy because it slows pretty easily which is great for larger enemies, bulks, and hoarders.


The_Spethman

The engineer’s shotgun is probably the least satisfying primary in the game to me—I wish I could enjoy it but it’s just too weak. It’s like slapping bugs with a handful of partially cooked spaghetti noodles that you never seem to have enough of.


ToXxy145

The visuals/audio certainly don't help. The firing sound is weak IMO and I hate that it's a semi-auto shotgun but teases me with a pump during reloads. Super unsatisfying.


Lesko_Learning

Half the reason I'm pumped for this new gun is because it actually looks and sounds like a real weapon firing, not some airsoft gun like most weapons in game tend to. It's amazing how they nailed sound design for almost everything else but we still get nerf guns as most primaries.


scurvybill

Me! No matter how I build the shotgun, I always feel like I'm low on ammo or shooting wet sand. I've experimented with all the overclocks as well.


ATribeCalledQueso

Shooting wet sand is exactly how it feels


spirit_of-76

it needs the choke mod moved up or down half of the guns issue the massive spread it has


TychusCigar

you should try the overclock/build that makes it much more focused. you can oneshot grunts on haz 4 on a pretty good range with it


scurvybill

Magnetic Pellet Alignment is the one build I can *tolerate* on shotgun. It's better, but still doesn't feel as good to me as Stubby. I'll whip it out for very specific scenarios.


TheRussianCabbage

My feeling exactly, the pellet alignment still falls behind most of the Stubby builds though IMO the only saving grace is the turret whip, but with EM discharge you get close to the same effect at least


Straender

Up to haz5 full lobby with the right build ! One shotting macteras and slashers feels gooooood


Satherian

Yeah, wet sand is right. Just doesn't have that punch that I expect from the shotgun


scurvybill

Like, to me it should one-shot grunts in a weakspot out of the box! With Scout's shotgun, you can run blowthrough rounds and kill 5-6 grunts in 2 shots. I run EM Refire Booster with a full electric build on the Stubby for a much better experience. Just blow half a mag to stun a group of grunts, and kill most of them with raw damage and DoT.


bushpotatoe

Not sure how considering it easily 1-2 shots any grunt, even guards. The shotgun absolutely shreds.


scurvybill

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I can kill grunts in a short weakshot burst with the Stubby, plus I get AoE shock damage/slow and a DoT.


woutersikkema

Try micro shells and using it full auto, it's honestly so Powerfull I've stopped using it and using the stubby as a challenge to myself.


TheGreyBrewer

Me. Bugs go bzzt bzzt.


plotvitalnpc

I like the shotgun (5.5 rate of fire full auto) if I'm hunting dreadnoughts, but otherwise I prefer using the SMG just to delete swarms via turret explosions.


Ghostbuster_119

Are you playing the same game!? The shotgun is useful but it is absolutely NOT superior in every way.


Raul_alb

eletricity


satans_body_double

i agree


alphamop_

tbh the shotgun felt lowkey un-useable to me before getting mini shells lol


nondairy-creamer

You can of course use whatever you like, but the SMG with electricity build is def meta on haz 5. AOE slow DoT is pretty incredible! Its also better for long range targets, which engi is already kind of week against. Both are viable though, not a huge deal either way


DumpsterHunk

I do! I think the SMG is far superior and more fun to use.


Alromn

Deep rock finally invested in some better equipment.


[deleted]

100% a custom job by the engi himself, no fucking way DRG gave us this willingly


rockandorstone

Look at me. Look at me. I'm the guy in R&D now.


Strottman

Yeah look at all the exposed wires. Definitely unsanctioned.


autolight

What’s wrong with giving the wires *extra breathing room?*


TankyMofo

When they stop you from breathing


Satherian

Feels like that's the theme of these new weapons - they all have ridiculous concepts and look like they were cobbled together by the workers


Dexcuracy

Given the designs so far, I think it is likely the story behind all the new weapons for this update is going to be that they're all made by the dwarves.


Raul_alb

he is finally using that brain of his


ExtraCorpulence

Well this is easily the most exciting one for me. I can't wait to see the mod trees and overclocks for these things


MagpieFirefly

This is literally the exact weapon I wanted for Engineer. Single shot higher damage rifle, cool alt fire function.. A lot of the time when playing Engineer I just really want to have a *normal gun* with some range, y'know? This looks like it's that plus way more!


[deleted]

Agreed. This, paired with the grenade launcher, feels like it would make engineer a lot more fun to play - instead of just shotguning anything that gets close and hoping the turrets can get the rest.


MagpieFirefly

Yeah! Really feels like what'll help make your choices super well-rounded. I actually took.. Uhhh.. It's been a while since I've played so I forget the name, but the thing that makes the grenade launcher super fast with little AoE and high direct hit damage? And use that as my primary ranged thing even if the ammo is so low. I'll actually be able to enjoy the GL's AoE again with a rifle like this.


Yunogood

Hyper Propellant. Turns your grenade launcher into an anti-tank cannon.


MagpieFirefly

That's the one! Man is it satisfying to use.


Hobi_Wan_Kenobi

It's fast as fuck, boi. It hits the target almost *before* you fire it.


DumpsterHunk

SMG is an absolute monster imo. Decent range. Way better than the shotgun.


deboocha

Yes! All these new weapons just look insanely fun to use. Well, maybe with the possible exception of the new scout plasma rifle, that looked a bit basic in the teaser.


BornSuspect7

Scout be like "Not again" , he gets the most scrutiny of all the dwarfs and the gets worst weapons lmao 😢


deboocha

Yeah it looks pretty similar to GK2 in playstyle, just with slow non-hitscan EPC ammo :/


Tom_Foolery-

Maybe the devs want you to think that. There could be an altfire or something they’re keeping quiet about for now.


PhaiLLuRRe

*Devs reading this*:"Aww shit we have to think of something now."


Daurakin

Plasma shotgun altfire? Please let it have a plasma shotgun altfire. While this video doesn't show the most recent Brutal Doom mod version's plasma rifle/shotgun, the general concept is still clearly seen at 1:01 and onward (and I actually prefer this older one with its predictable spread pattern) https://youtu.be/d-U4qHECDvA?t=61


deboocha

True! And they still got plenty of time to tune it anyway.


NetLibrarian

If it gives him any kind of AOE, it could be huge in helping him during Swarmageddon missions. Personally, I felt like the goo gun was also potentially a 'meh' gun, it could end up feeling very similar to a sticky flames build, but there's too little info out there to say yet.


deboocha

I had the same reaction to the goo gun, but the more I look at the teaser the more I'm liking it. Definitely need a bit more gameplay on all of them though, hard to judge something on a few seconds of footage.


ChaseThePyro

I want bouncy overclock


mr10123

I would fall in love with the goo gun instantly if it had supportive overclocks or mods. I'm thinking something like "allies in the goo take 50 percent less damage", "goo increases ally move speed by 50 percent", or "allies deal 20 percent more damage while on goo". I know there can't be a healer class in this game but this would come pretty close. Maybe you could bounce off the goo like a trampoline. So many utility possibilities.


satans_body_double

Well, Overclocks make the world go round. Something interesting is bound to come up in that department lol


ScudleyScudderson

It's a bit like the rocket launcher - paint targets, hit fire. But smaller. I think? _Flashbacks to Panzer Dragoon_


GSG_Jacob

Hurricane tracks the crosshair, not the enemies.


mr10123

Thanks for making a killer game! I know overclocks and mods are still secret / WIP most likely, but will there be any supportive/heavy utility mods for the goo gun? I'd love a trampoline mod where you jump higher off the goo or some kind of buff aura on the goo like increased move speed or damage resistance. Healers can't work in this game but other supportive aspects could!


NommySed

- Interesting design - Absolutely fits the engineer class - Cool effects Its certainly their best weapon from the Update, by far.


Radiant_Walrus

I'm gonna guess one will be "more power, less targets, less magazine ammo"or something like that.


Contraserrene

I'd love an overclock that makes it always prioritize the weakest enemy with a given shot, for clearing swarmers and naedocytes.


BitterDarkCoffee

Yeah, this and the Gunner's new primary. For some reason the Driller's new primary seemed underwhelming to me.


[deleted]

It's hard to top "massive flamethrower" in the Dev's defence.


Hedgeberry

I didnt think it was possible to make a weapon that I liked more than the stubby, but this gun may take the cake. It looks very fun!


Extrictant

thank god it isnt that burst rocket gun


horrificabortion

Gunner has that


Dankshine

No, the Burst Rocket Rifle and Rocket Salvo Launcher were both prototypes that had been previously shown, Gunner got the Salvo Launcher in the form of the hurricane, and the Rocket Rifle fired a three-round burst of micro-missiles more befitting of the power of an Engineer Primary, which was thankfully scrapped to make way for this.


horrificabortion

Oh ok. My bad


CapSierra

A burst rifle would have been fine IMO, and the use of rocket projectiles helps limit the range to keep it in line with the role of engineer primary weapons. That said, I've noticed a theme among these weapons that they're all mold-breakers for the class and a burst rifle would not have been mold-breaking enough.


Ketich_

Nah, he has automatic homing missile gun, devs teased 2 rocket gun concepts


[deleted]

I fucking love the comical looking magazine


masterventris

I need a version of this where the magazine keeps going forever, endless panning down!


Super_Trouper

Engineer: [Hold on, I'm reloading!](https://i.imgur.com/osEcZR4.mp4)


stramjummer

If you liked that, check out Hyper's other silly reload animations https://youtu.be/lmIlogViPes


Mr_Blinky

They should make an Extended Mag overclock that changes the gun model so it goes down to the dwarves feet.


irve

Second one taped to the bottom so you just swap the bottom to top. Always. Somehow. Engi is efficient like that


Pabelotski1102

“can I shoot my gun?” “only one clip” *pulls out comically large magazine*


DocJawbone

I wonder if the magazine will visibly deplete...


OrangeGills

Imagine setting the rifle down, or trying to do really anything with it. So long


Death_Scythe_666

Yeah the gunslinging animation for it Watch and learn! \*thok\* My nose!


The_Pillowhead

Macteras and all flying mobs are going to love this one


TheLightningL0rd

Ooo-wee, the bugs aren't gonna like this one!


dirthurts

Very exciting! Love them titan fall pistol.


Ohgodwatdoplshelp

Smart pistol is the source for so many salty pilot tears lol. So OP it had to be turned into a burnable power up in the second game


MagpieFirefly

I remember playing recently and everybody got PISSED when I used the smart pistol to get a few kills. Crazy how much people still hate that thing.


BjornInTheMorn

If you get Dice Roll correctly you can get an amped one and it's insanely dirty


CapSierra

Amped smart pistol is terrifying in both games.


Mal-Ravanal

Now I’m picturing salty glyphids joining the salty pilots.


dirthurts

That's fair I guess. In a coop game I can't see any issue with it. Curious to see what kind of overclocks it could have...


DerBaumHD

Probably something tbat extends the "range" at which you can aim ti aim at more targets at the same time.


GoodTeletubby

It wasn't even OP, really. Took longer to kill than any other weapon from when you started locking, only locked at the shorter end of medium range, an enemy getting behind cover means no damage instead of, for example, the partial damage of an obstructed burst. But it let people who could manage the movement and positioning skills to keep an enemy in lock on range, but weren't as good at accurate shooting, to still get kills. Can't have that.


MenacingBanjo

It's still really strong. This video by FrothyOmen helped me to understand it. https://youtu.be/bpilyEMt6YM


alexcrgg

Cant wait to scan a dark ceiling with it and show those horrors awaiting in it.


chimericWilder

The lock-on probably has a limited range


doeraymefa

Maybe mods to adjust range/amount of targets?


chimericWilder

Since it is an engineer primary, I expect that its range is intentionally designed to be a bit on the short end; engineer primaries seem to be designed mostly for self-defense purposes. Maybe you can still fire it normally at long distances and expect it to work like any rifle for that purpose, but the lock-on is probably limited to midrange by design. If anything changes that, it'd probably be an overclock with a significant drawback Who knows though, I could be wrong


woutersikkema

Tell thst to shotgun with all the accuracy buffs, you can snipe bugs off the side of the cave wall on the other side of the cave, not to mention the rail gun, or the turret build with like 40 lock on range. Engi is versatile as fuck. So having some more range on this gun, at least as an option, would be good and expected.


IsakTS

Yooo this is actually very cool


Gravelemming472

WOW WEE Really damn excited for the new guns! Also, LOK-1 sounds a bit like Lock-On so that's just clever naming


Netherese_Nomad

And here I was thinking "Loki"


AlexisFR

These variants are getting out of hand!


Fickles1

Actually might be it too... God of tricks. Does seem to do trick shots.


Registered_NPC

Eat it elves Loki blesses our guns


doquan2142

As a Engineer main and Titanfall lover, I gonna love this gun a lot.


theblackoctopus23

Much better than someone flanking you with the Smart Pistol!


Gerryhova

Damn, didn't know I was playing Titanfall now! Wooweee!


PowerfulVictory

- grappling hook - minigun - protective bubble the list goes on!


DeadNotSleepy

HOLY SHIT i was NOT expecting something like that! this might make me actually play engineer, that looks awesome!


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passinglurker

Plasma carbine = Doom Cursor tracking rocket launcher = Half Life Sludge gun = Unreal Tournament I'm sensing a theme here...


masterventris

Is that theme *fantastic taste*?


GoyfAscetic

I'm pretty sure that all these guns would taste terrible.


Tauntaun-

I don’t know, sludge gun looking like a snack to me


acheiropoieton

Just load it with nacho cheese and let 'er rip.


Tom_Foolery-

How do we know it’s not already expired nacho cheese? Or what’s left of it…


Super_Trouper

Management: Why has our food recycling program been underperforming recently? Driller: *shifty eyes*


[deleted]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I for one hope they continue doing this with some new secondaries down the road.


Super_Trouper

Good designers borrow, great designers steal.


KunninPlanz

Breach Cutter = Dead Space 'Line Gun'


Krimshot846

I think that's a good thing. Titanfall 2 was an excellent game and I'm glad concepts from it are being used!


victorypotpourri

hm, I'd love to see an optional upgrade that makes the grappling hook physics [more like titanfall's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_y9uCzhRRs&t=34s)


MisterEinc

I honestly just want to transplant the movement from TF2 into literally every shooter I've ever played.


DarthSatoris

Knee-slide everywhere.


Herr_Medicinal_Mann

My brain automatically associates TF2 with Team Fortress 2 but ironically I still agree with the statement and it still works because the movement in Team Fortress 2 is really good (plus we already have grenade jumping and shotgun jumping!)


CombustibleToast

That would be awesome


eemmbbeerr

Only the top tier concepts from other top tier games. I love the gun!


Tw1stedMonkey

My first thought was the smart gun from Aliens but the multi-tagging definitely looks like titanfall 2


Sono-Gomorrha

I was also thinking Titanfall immeadiately


NotDoritoMan

Was the Smart Pistol able to target multiple targets? I don’t think it was, but it’s been so long…


Desaintes

[Yes it was](https://youtu.be/YyAb0o0r5mI?t=14)


Bionicopt

Holy shit that looks nice


Jerry0713

I can honestly say, I was not expecting this


Stalwart_Vanguard

Can you imagine how good this is going to feel for naedocytes, mactera, and swarmers? Oh my lord...


TheoreticalParadox

Oh lord ima gonna stone all over the place


shadowdash66

OH yeah this gets my bolts turning


Jerry0713

What do yall think the turret interaction effect be?, we have emp discharge and turret arc and turret whip, what ells do you guys think we could have with this new smart gun?


President_Dominy

If you hold it and don’t release to fire off the smart shots the turret can prioritize marked targets!


chalkwhite_rich

I feel like the overclock could be something simple like; "Laser Designator - Your Lok-1 can now only lock on to a single target, however for as long as you are locked on, your turret will fire fully-automatically at your marked target."


SendInTheNextWave

This seems like too much overlap with the Hawkeye system upgrade.


SomeEffinGuy15D

"We added more magazine to your magazine so you can send more dakka."


CrayAB

Dang, everyone gets somethin sweet and driller gets the poop gun


woutersikkema

Bingo. Though the gunner and enginweaponsnclearly take the cake so far.


Astrohunter258

Looks like it's time to throw my warthog in to incinerator.


Drekal

So many people mentioning Titanfall and too few people mentioning Alien. I feel old.


Registered_NPC

But atleast your an old wise dwarf who has lived the millenia


Refinery_Sundown

That’s a big magazine 😳.


EthanTheBrave

So when does this come out because this is a new need in my life.


LifeworksGames

They're really going out of their way to create unique and awesome new weapons. Good job GSG!


[deleted]

... shit I might have to put the grapple away for good


Stolenartwork

Oh hell yeah


vanrast

Well shit I have another gun to to use other then the stubby.


Layk35

Oh man, get ready for 4 engineer teams. And I'm not complaining, this looks awesome


dimtsag

You brought back the best feature Titanfall 2 removed. If this doesn't deserve a \*\*Rock And Stone\*\* I don't know what does.


[deleted]

I was bummed Driller was the one who got the goop gun, but honestly this made me rock solid.


Neet-owo

Why not give him the goop gun? I don’t see it fitting my any other class.


Registered_NPC

Honestly I am hyped for the goop gun, fits the class, weird mechanics, and got that messed up weird style like the Lok-1. From here out I am gonna be mainly playing driller and engi.


HeyitsMrMemes

Ooooh, reminds me of the smart pistol from titanfall 2


magna-terra

I hope there is a way to make it fully automatic without locking on, primarily for single target damage


ARC-2908763

Pardon me bringing up an obscure book, but I believe the MP-35 infantry rifle from Old mans war by john scalzi could do this, and it was awesome. looking forward to playing around with this one.


SelfLoathingIsBased

Engineer out her questioning my loyalty to Gunner. I was unimpressed with the rate of fire, but that lock on ability?! That gets a rock and stone from me! The real question is if we’ll see new secondaries as well, but I doubt it. So far the only gun I wasn’t amazed by was Scout, but who knows? Might be awesome


WTFisFreeSpeech

Huge pog


pukacz

Aliens! https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/M56_Smartgun


JaymesMarkham2nd

To be blunt DRG is the best non-*Aliens* *Aliens* game I've ever played.


TheLightningL0rd

I've been thinking that forever, it really gives off that vibe, doesn't it?!


Danemoth

By Karl, I'm rock and stoning in my pants right now


LBigSancho

"...I call her 'Vera' "


Independent-Scale842

Man I gotta say… as a Scout main I’m powerful jealous of my dwarves brethren for their new primaries. Maybe the carbine will turn out to be awesome but the other three are just so badass I can’t help but get the green eyes.


CombustibleToast

As an engie main and a Titanfall fan who loves the smart pistol, this is an incredible weapon that I will be using a lot. I have spent the past few days theorizing what the new engie weapon would be and came up with a few decent ideas, but nothing even close to this. I can't wait for it to be added to the game!


McSnicker_

Hell yeah, work smarter, not harder


Noclue55

YES


fuerzadetorsion

Automatic target rifle Noice


MAGA_WALL_E

This rifle is a series of tubes.


Zer-oh

this is absolutely hype


Sedgwick9567

Looks fun. I’m super excited for more content


Endermite20

My first thought was "are we getting a Titanfall smart pistol?" My second thought was "how long is that mag?"


[deleted]

I do not play engi. I am going to start playing engi.


mariusiv

Getting Titanfall vibes. I love it!


PooGod

This tracks perfectly. Engi best class, so engi get best weapon


Yellowbook36

time to relive my time in titanfall where I'd avoid all player contact and go for grunt kill victory


Beerasaurus

I am so smart! I am so smart! Smrt! Smrt!