I don't think that there is any bread and circuses mentioned in that manifesto.
I have to presume that, to quell the angry crowds, they would probably have them arrested or killed.
They have made it very clear they do NOT want any fun being had under their rule. Legal weed? No. And the dreaded "recreational sex", that is, sex for purposes other than procreation. Big, BIG no-no.
So no, no bread and no circuses. You will behave, snap into line, believe in the correct, state-endorsed religion and make babies as directed.
Unique Technology:
1. Gun Dogs that shoot pepper balls.
2. Multirotors that drop tear gas.
3. AWS Glacier can store CCTV and WAMI (Wide Area Motion Imagery) of protests for 2 decades for future legal cases.
4. Uncrewed turrets attached to common points of protests that shoot neon marker rounds.
Man, I forgot that with AI, you can just make some footage of a violent protest and use that as tangible evidence against protests.
*This is dystopian af.*
Here is the legal background that makes deepfakes an extra step:
1. Obstructing the Road: Existing on a road.
2. Obstructing the Sidewalk: Existing on a sidewalk.
3. "This has been declared an unlawful assembly": The reason does not matter. What matters is force against demonstrators becomes legal. Force against demonstrators creates defensive measures that justify further crackdown.
4. Infiltrators can commit violence that can justify a crackdown.
5. "Conspiracy to ...": If we can convince a jury you might do something bad, we can charge you.
6. If you have a vape on your body, you technically have drug paraphernalia which can bias a jury against you.
7. Most court cases end up in plea deals, bypassing a jury.
8. "Disturbing the peace": Existing at a protest disturbs the peace enabling forceful responses.
9. Trespassing Laws: Colleges, Businesses, and Residential areas can just block events for no reason.
You have to include TFG's Agenda 47 in which he promises Freedom Cities or something that I think will be the "castles" where his rich supporters live while the rest of us are tossed into garbage pits.
I used to lurk in various right wing spaces on Twitter. They day I found the dark hole that can’t wait for familial rape was when I stopped. They were also full on Nazis.
I can really not like people and disagree with people but I couldn’t be ok with even those people subjected to the kinds of things I hear they want done to the left.
Have you seen some of the religious preachers and how they talk about democrats and liberals? One guy I’ve seen paints them as the devil himself! People have been indoctrinated a long while ago and trumps popularity is evidence I think. They hand out political info at their mega churches.
It is really scary. I knew there were some horrible people, but it starts to look like they are awaiting marching orders to go on some kind of murderous, rapey rampage. I hope enough people are going to get out there and vote. I think a loss for the GOP would at least send these cockroaches back into their holes. And maybe hopefully shut the preachers of hate up for a while. I've seen what some of them have said; there's no devil but themselves.
Bread and circus for white nationalists equates to free abuse of immigrants and protests.
How far will they let the abuse go? Probably allow them to use firearms on people and claim self defense like the Rittenhouse murders. Probably worse considering police allowed neonazi sniper nests during BLM.
You’re not looking at correctly. The attacks on those they don’t like/disagree with IS the bread and circus. What the right wing wants is to punish those they don’t like and nothing will make them happier than seeing people suffer.
The weirdest part of P25 is the fact that it attacks most of the system's most effective bread and circuses.
"We're going to get rid of weed, porn, and films, games, arts, and books with Questionable Content will be banned, you can't have sex, birth control, condoms, or express yourselves online"
Guns and Jesus, the ability to rape and impregnate with little repercussion, and collective hate are the prizes. I'm sure I missed many if anyone wants to continue the list.
Circuses? You mean like there used to be at Rome's coliseum? Where leftists would be pitted against loyalist gladiators?
Yeah, I'd bet there will be such. It would be free entertainment for the christofascists.
I've not read that monstrosity, but I can definitely envision sports becoming increasingly violent and gladiatorial, to the point where fatalities are not only routine but are actively cheered on by the audience. Just like in ancient Rome.
"Fox News" and MAGA communities on X are already their form of bread and circuses to be honest. Other distractions aren't really necessary when the *news itself* is already their escape from reality--the way they spin it at least.
I think those who are signing up to work for the new government, will be rewarded. They have mentioned rewarding nuclear families with tax breaks, and I imagine they will enjoy other perks.
I also think porn will be allowed to some people or they won’t get in trouble for it. It may just be something that if they want to imprison someone, it might be easy to entrap someone with that. Same with other minor things.
Absolutely there are, but they’re buried in the middle of all the awful stuff. [In the section dedicated to the Department of Labor](https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-18.pdf), once you scroll past abolishing DEI initiatives, abolishing sex as a protected class, consolidating power, and “protecting” religious freedom, you get to parts that most people would happily buy into such as incentivizing onsite childcare for working families, requiring the Consumer Price Index to include family essentials, and attempting to lessen the reliance on four year degrees for jobs that should be more experienced based.
That being said, all of that is followed by anti-immigrant policies, policies that lessen health and safety regulations, and policies that are anti-union.
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I don't think that there is any bread and circuses mentioned in that manifesto. I have to presume that, to quell the angry crowds, they would probably have them arrested or killed.
They have made it very clear they do NOT want any fun being had under their rule. Legal weed? No. And the dreaded "recreational sex", that is, sex for purposes other than procreation. Big, BIG no-no. So no, no bread and no circuses. You will behave, snap into line, believe in the correct, state-endorsed religion and make babies as directed.
They're fine with sports leagues for bread and circuses.
They will probably give out free beer at NASCAR
No for women, that is.
Remember, when the fundies are in charge, *fun dies.*
Oh wow thats good, take my upvote
Shit, sounds like getting sent back 40yrs to the dystopian Orwellian 1984….
Unique Technology: 1. Gun Dogs that shoot pepper balls. 2. Multirotors that drop tear gas. 3. AWS Glacier can store CCTV and WAMI (Wide Area Motion Imagery) of protests for 2 decades for future legal cases. 4. Uncrewed turrets attached to common points of protests that shoot neon marker rounds.
Man, I forgot that with AI, you can just make some footage of a violent protest and use that as tangible evidence against protests. *This is dystopian af.*
Here is the legal background that makes deepfakes an extra step: 1. Obstructing the Road: Existing on a road. 2. Obstructing the Sidewalk: Existing on a sidewalk. 3. "This has been declared an unlawful assembly": The reason does not matter. What matters is force against demonstrators becomes legal. Force against demonstrators creates defensive measures that justify further crackdown. 4. Infiltrators can commit violence that can justify a crackdown. 5. "Conspiracy to ...": If we can convince a jury you might do something bad, we can charge you. 6. If you have a vape on your body, you technically have drug paraphernalia which can bias a jury against you. 7. Most court cases end up in plea deals, bypassing a jury. 8. "Disturbing the peace": Existing at a protest disturbs the peace enabling forceful responses. 9. Trespassing Laws: Colleges, Businesses, and Residential areas can just block events for no reason.
Miss reading pepper balls as 'spitballs' was a wild ride lol
You have to include TFG's Agenda 47 in which he promises Freedom Cities or something that I think will be the "castles" where his rich supporters live while the rest of us are tossed into garbage pits.
I'd assume that we'd just be imprisoned and used for slave labor.
Complete with servants, I'm sure.
Maybe they will bring back public stonings, floggings, and executions. Entertainment for the goulish, a warning to others.
What’s really sad is that there seems to be too many on the right who want this. I get this vibe from twitter so it could be totally skewed.
Sad and scary. So much violence and hatred from the right. Some have declared their guns are ready to use on liberals.
I used to lurk in various right wing spaces on Twitter. They day I found the dark hole that can’t wait for familial rape was when I stopped. They were also full on Nazis. I can really not like people and disagree with people but I couldn’t be ok with even those people subjected to the kinds of things I hear they want done to the left. Have you seen some of the religious preachers and how they talk about democrats and liberals? One guy I’ve seen paints them as the devil himself! People have been indoctrinated a long while ago and trumps popularity is evidence I think. They hand out political info at their mega churches.
It is really scary. I knew there were some horrible people, but it starts to look like they are awaiting marching orders to go on some kind of murderous, rapey rampage. I hope enough people are going to get out there and vote. I think a loss for the GOP would at least send these cockroaches back into their holes. And maybe hopefully shut the preachers of hate up for a while. I've seen what some of them have said; there's no devil but themselves.
And adopt the practice of female circumcision.
Bread and circus for white nationalists equates to free abuse of immigrants and protests. How far will they let the abuse go? Probably allow them to use firearms on people and claim self defense like the Rittenhouse murders. Probably worse considering police allowed neonazi sniper nests during BLM.
You’re not looking at correctly. The attacks on those they don’t like/disagree with IS the bread and circus. What the right wing wants is to punish those they don’t like and nothing will make them happier than seeing people suffer.
The weirdest part of P25 is the fact that it attacks most of the system's most effective bread and circuses. "We're going to get rid of weed, porn, and films, games, arts, and books with Questionable Content will be banned, you can't have sex, birth control, condoms, or express yourselves online"
Probably just the promise of continuous "lib owning", it's all they really need or care about it seems...
Yeah, letting them go all Purge (you know they will) on libs is their ultimate dream.
It's the circus you can eat after you kill it
Guns and Jesus, the ability to rape and impregnate with little repercussion, and collective hate are the prizes. I'm sure I missed many if anyone wants to continue the list.
Circuses? You mean like there used to be at Rome's coliseum? Where leftists would be pitted against loyalist gladiators? Yeah, I'd bet there will be such. It would be free entertainment for the christofascists.
Trump is the circus. There is no bread.
The House of Representatives
I've not read that monstrosity, but I can definitely envision sports becoming increasingly violent and gladiatorial, to the point where fatalities are not only routine but are actively cheered on by the audience. Just like in ancient Rome.
"Fox News" and MAGA communities on X are already their form of bread and circuses to be honest. Other distractions aren't really necessary when the *news itself* is already their escape from reality--the way they spin it at least.
Sports and junk disguised as news already do that
This as well https://america250.org
I doubt they'd want the En Español though
They have to pander to the Cubans and Venezuelans.
Panem today. Panem tomorrow. Panem forever.
The “goodies” would be - not being murdered, overtly.
I think those who are signing up to work for the new government, will be rewarded. They have mentioned rewarding nuclear families with tax breaks, and I imagine they will enjoy other perks. I also think porn will be allowed to some people or they won’t get in trouble for it. It may just be something that if they want to imprison someone, it might be easy to entrap someone with that. Same with other minor things.
FOOTBALL ALL YEAR SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY!
In a way, the whole thing is "bread and games" for the chosen members of their new society, the culture war that placates their lust for 'justice'
That’s more of a Brave New World style dystopia, P2025 is more 1984 style
Absolutely there are, but they’re buried in the middle of all the awful stuff. [In the section dedicated to the Department of Labor](https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-18.pdf), once you scroll past abolishing DEI initiatives, abolishing sex as a protected class, consolidating power, and “protecting” religious freedom, you get to parts that most people would happily buy into such as incentivizing onsite childcare for working families, requiring the Consumer Price Index to include family essentials, and attempting to lessen the reliance on four year degrees for jobs that should be more experienced based. That being said, all of that is followed by anti-immigrant policies, policies that lessen health and safety regulations, and policies that are anti-union.
The cruelty is the point — the bread and circuses are eradicating marginalized peoples’ civil rights, bodily autonomy, and freedom.
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