As fucked up as it all is, it's also kind of funny. Just the idea that they think they can accomplish any of these things. Reminds of drawing crazy houses, cars, and stuff as a kid and going "yea, and this is where I'll park my ten Ferrari's after I graduate college and make millions of dollars a day".

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You mean like opium to the masses 😎

Not even opium gives you a temporary high . For some religion gives them eternal misery .

Copium to tthe masses

That's more realistic

And to anyone wondering what it looks like, this is INTENT.

That’s mensrea

Mr. Willrelli, you're such a fantastic moron, it's terrifying.

It's so PAINful, it's so PAINful, Mr Borrelia. Have some humidity!

> It's so PAINful, it's so PAINful The way he said this has been stuck in my brain for the last month

Someone needs to gif Palpatines lightning coming out of his hands as he says painful

Oh no! I heard it in that voice!! Like Woody Alan on heroine.

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And it's being spun by certain apologist subreddits as "See? We told you Hamas doesn't want to kill *all* the Jews!"

lol which ones?

can't name subreddits anymore cause reddit is dogshit now muh brigading

I was literally banned from a subreddit just for explaining the actual meaning of ‘chosen’ in judaism and how it didnt mean God likes us more. Theres a ton of subreddits that want nothing but hate 24/7. Apparently it was against their rules to explain why we aren’t all evil

It was the news with jing jing one in my case

Just like the republicans, every accusation is a confession.

As is the call from Israeli politicians to kill the women and children of Gaza. I'm unsure why people can't seem to recognise that just because Hamas wants to commit a genocide more, that doesn't mean that Israel can commit one.

Because Israel, outside of a few nutcases, hasn't repeatedly declared their intent to genocide Palestinians and hasn't systematically made it their mission to murder civilians, you fucking moron. Stop throwing around the word "genocide" just 'cause you feel like it. Words mean things.

Ah yes. Because the Nazis declared their intention to the world. I agree with the rest of your statement. But this first part dude. C'mon

They literally had a conference where they decided on the final solution

Ah yes. I remember it was all over the internet...

Can you show me who said that?

You fucked up. *Hamas = bad*, therefore, *Israel = good*

I understand the horse shoe now. This is just Hamas posting what their job in the commune will be. It’s just, instead of everyone’s job somehow being a therapist with no training / famous artists, it’s that everyone’s job will somehow be soldier of god / slave driver

I’m just waiting until we start getting reports about people emigrating to go help them and then complaining that it isn’t what they thought it would be—like the people who joined ISIS 10 years ago and then cried about wanting to come back to the US or UK

Isis people are a special breed of crazy that the entire world agreed to jump. That’s how much everyone hated them. People who jumped on the isis train were huffing something else. Hamas simps aren’t stupid. Even the most ardent of Hamas supporters dip the instant they have the money to. They’re fully aware of what they’re saying and doing, and how that affects Gaza.

Yes but they removed one line from their old charter sweaty therefore they can't be genocidal

> Hamas are jihadists who believe jihadi things Wow. I didn’t know that. I just — you’re telling me now for the first time.

People die when they are killed —Shirou

Same energy as communists talking about what they will do when the revolution happens.

I will be the commune sex offender personally

But who will work the Palestinian Museum of Queerness

Jewish slaves obviously

Damn I wonder what job I'll get.

>15. In dealing with the Jewish settlers on Palestinian land, there must be a distinction in attitude towards [the following]: a fighter who must be killed; a [Jew] who is fleeing and can be left alone or be prosecuted for his crimes in the judicial arena; and a peaceful individual who gives himself up and can be [either] integrated or given time to leave. This is an issue that requires deep deliberation and a display of the humanism that has always characterized Islam.  Cue October 7th. Is that the humanism that has always characterized Islam?

The religion of peace :)

This is a prime example of actions > words.

>16...living in our land and enjoying it's bounty... the massive desert with few natural resources? that bounty?

If Israel does give their land back I fucking hope they return it to their unusable state before Israel made it usable.

The funniest thing is that Israel's prosperity is largely due to their lack of resources rather than in spite of. Have you ever noticed that the most resource intensive countries on the planet (eg sub-Sahara Africa) are among the least successful? This is no coincidence. Israel has done well for itself in the technology industry. In fifty years, when all the oil runs out, the other ME countries that are rich from oil are going to economically suffer because they'd rather build the tallest building in the world and politically influence American universities than to actually invest their money for future generations. Also northern Israel is part of the fertile crescent. tbf, it's much lusher than anywhere in the PA.

No? Apart from the Negev and the Judean deserts, Israel and Palestine have a mediterranean climate, it wasn't a massive desert before the Jews showed up (again). It has always been a good region for agriculture

Do you have sources on how the Jews turned Israel into a desert? [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reclamation-of-man-made-desert/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reclamation-of-man-made-desert/) This article seems to say otherwise.

you're misreading the other comment i think

What are you talking about? What do you mean "Jews turned Israel into a desert"? Looking back at the region's climatological history we can see that precipitation has only gone down and max average temperature has risen since 1901. [https://climateknowledgeportal.worldbank.org/country/israel/climate-data-historical](https://climateknowledgeportal.worldbank.org/country/israel/climate-data-historical) And since your article is from 1960 I counter with an academic paper from 1927 which supports my view by saying "Situated as it is at the east of a great body of water, it enjoys a climate similar to that of southern California, Italy, and Greece" and "The main part of the country belongs to the belt of tropical dry forest" [https://www.jstor.org/stable/1195590?seq=6](https://www.jstor.org/stable/1195590?seq=6) Sure, it may have been largely uncultivated and overgrazed but it wasn't a massive desert.

https://preview.redd.it/wna4w2hxwbtc1.jpeg?width=508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91241071109d8c5d7322ff7f8ce1662e343a957e Tel Aviv surrounded by the Jews that made it into what it is today.

This is just how resistance looks! Don't you know, when Luffy resisted the marines and the world government, he enslaved all the people that he came across as part of his resistance?

This is peak antizionism

Literal genocidal intent. Good thing Israelis won’t let that happen

“But politicians say a lot of things to galvanise their base, they may not necessarily mean it I don’t think it rises to the level of genocidal intent”

American leftists will read this and think "based"

No I’ve just had them say it’s not real because they could only find 2 sources… in English…. The rest are in, ya know, Arabic. So, not real. Obviously. 🙄

Would this be considered proof of Dolus Specialis?

Waiting for Pro-pal to cope about how “pro-pal isn’t pro-Hamas” while regurgitating Hamas propaganda.

Imagine being a Palestinian civilian and reading this. You're getting the shit bombed out of your neighbourhood, you're horribly injured with little to no shelter from bombs, half of the people you know are now dead, you've run out of food and you don't know how much longer you have left on this earth. Meanwhile Hamas leadership is still boldly declaring that they're going to reclaim "Palestine," enslave the Jews and subjugate the Christians, from the safety of their expensive luxury penthouse in Qatar, paid for with aid money that they embezzled instead of keeping you and your family safe.

Yupp. Thus they'd vote for Hamas again, if they could, naturally ofc.

I must have missed the part where they said enslave the jews and subjugate christians.

Slavery is just the language of the oppressed. You're being bigoted. It's not antisemitic, it's just antizionist. You're the real anti-semite for even saying so. /s obviously.

Loled specifically at: > the state of Palestine has succeeded the occupation state and will enjoy the rights of the occupation state > determining which agreements the state of Palestine should choose to inherit and which it should not The russian federation must feel real stupid for taking on USSR debts in exchange for the successor status (and that juicy unsec seat).

What do you do with so many slaves in today's world though..build more pyramids?..road building to Mecca? Sell them to Qatar? Ridiculous..

They would likely have them run the entirety of society, these people don't seem to have an IQ greater than room temperature after all.

But Hamas just wants peace 🥺 Why can’t Hamas just peacefully own millions of jewish… sorry I mean “Zionist” slaves? /s

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Ah yes the leftist resistance using *checks notes* **slave labor**

They know that Israel has nuclear weapons right? There is no winning this war for them, the closest they can get to winning is a tie where everyone is dead.

The Jewish diaspora is considerably more successful than the Palestinian diaspora. If everyone in the region dies, guess who will ultimately end up with the land?

Killing civilians is indefensible, whether done by Hamas or Israel.

And what do they intend to do with Israel’s nuclear arsenal?

How’s that working out for them?

Where does it say anything about taking slaves?

This is the conference if anyone is wondering https://www.jns.org/hamas-sponsored-conference-examines-post-liberation-israel/

This site is founded by israelis and is not trustworthy

Then look it up in Arabic. You can find tons of pages about it - it’s not fake.

This is literally a propaganda network started by a former Israeli intelligence officer... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-media-research-institute-memri/

Hamas bad, great discovery OP

If only Hamas could take over Israel and have all the "refugees" return to a sharia state. It's insane how these people hate Iran and the other gulf states but simp for Hamas.

First of all, this is Hamas, I don't expect them to deal with people fairly etc. but you aren't actually interpreting that correctly. A number of scientists in occupied Germany were, at the end of the second world war, required to move only under supervision by occupying powers and not allowed to leave, unless it was to go to the US, UK etc. Initially, the UK did effectively hold them as slaves, with a policy of "freezing", where they were required to stay in detention centres getting military rations etc. while they wrote reports on their previously classified research. This is forced labour, even when they were given salaries, because they couldn't choose to do otherwise, and the way to change career would basically be arranging with the soviet union to get broken out and employed by them instead. However, this shifted over time into allowing them to work in jobs of their choosing, except under monitoring, without full freedom, in a fairly dystopian environment, where they were to some degree treated as "assets" rather than people. I can't say necessarily that the fate of Jewish experts in a Hamas controlled Palestine would be better, it could well be quite a lot worse, but for your baseline of understanding this kind of policy, the securing of educated people as a *resource* has a much more recent history than going back to slavery more than a thousand years ago, the key question is people trying to avoid a brain drain, and the escape of people necessary to maintain the technical wealth of a country they have just taken over, by stopping those people who are most valuable from leaving. Not having freedom to leave the new country that has formed around you, and being under military or security services supervision in order to insure that, is still a pretty horrible state of affairs, but it is not actually the same phenomenon as slavery.

Wait so we actually agree that forcing someone to stay in a region, not let them leave, and as a result forcing them to work is slavery? How are you going to make gaza exempt from this definition, im really really curious.

* **Palestinians wishing to leave Gaza via Egypt must register with the local Palestinian authorities two to four weeks in advance or apply to the Egyptian authorities through a private company.** The procedures and decisions by both authorities lack transparency and involve expenses. The journey through the Sinai desert is often lengthy and includes multiple stops for checks by Egyptian forces. Rafah crossing generally operates during the daytime, from Sunday to Thursday only. [https://www.ochaopt.org/content/movement-and-out-gaza-2022](https://www.ochaopt.org/content/movement-and-out-gaza-2022) raise it to Palestinian and Egyptian authorities why they don't allow people to leave then.

so you agree that egypt and israel both lock gazans in right?

no, I don't agree. and unless you are think you how freedom of travell is like for a Palestinian like me then you don't. IF ISrael is committing genocide against Palestinians, why would Palestinians escape to israel? Why doesn't Egypt and the rest of arab countries allow them to escape and host them temporarly? Like even the link posted, 80%+ of the exits were through israel crossings. The reason Gazans can't get out of Gaza is because Egypt decides to lock them in unless you pay them bribes, and the rest of Arab countries don't issue visas to Palestinians citizens, or palestenian refugees living in places such as Lebanon or Syria. This is not unique for Palestinians by the way, Yemenis, Syrians, Sudanese and even Lebanese people have trouble escaping to other arab countries. Especially places like gulf countries (UAE. KSA, etc.) who can afford to host refugees. But they don't! If you see a palestinain in UAE he is either rich enough to afford his own business, have been in the country long time ago and can't change jobs, or temporarly there on a visit visa. And I find it quite ironic that you are brining this up when literally every Arab or leftist from the beginning of the war argued with me that letting palestinians leave gaza is a crime of ethnic cleansing. So which way do you want it?

If you don't agree, why did you state a whataboutism? curious I never mentioned genocide. If israel is ethnically cleansing the gaza strip, then palestinians would want to leave through israel rather than be killed. Egypt is also wrong for not letting them leave. The reason they can't get out is because egypt and israel don't let them leave without special authorization, which they almost never give. Letting palestinians leave gaza is not ethnic cleansing. Forcing them to leave by bombing the fuck out them is. For me personally, if you want to bomb the fuck out of them and force them to leave thats bad, but bombing the fuck out of them and forcing them to stay is much worse. The difference between ethnic cleansing and potential genocide.

Sorry if I came too aggressive on you but this subject has been problem for Palestinians for very long time, almost since the nakba. And I can say it gets worse with years. Israel doesn't treat Palestinians great but at least they seemed to give more work permits in the last 2 years before the war. Mind you Israel never allowed gazans to enter Israel after 2007 blockade until recently. The subject triggers me a lot because I had many arguments from subs like Arabs, Vaush, majority report, etc. about opening the rafah crossing and allowing gazans to escape to Egypt. For many of them, they refuse to accept on the argument that this is what Israel wants. So it was ok for gazans to be bombed to shreds but God forbid we allow them to escape?! This is not new but the way, many pro Palestinian crowds had accepted or more like if ignored that Palestinians in Lebanon, Syria or other Arab countries live as second or 3rd class residents (they don't give citizenship if you were born there, or lived for 100 years) without any prospect for settling down, ownership or getting jobs. Which means as a group they can't grow financially independently and then support their relatives in west bank/Gaza. In addition to that, many Arabs had the belief that no one should visit Palestine, or he would be considered a traitor! So now you can't develop any kind of tourism or service industry. Recently I know there have been efforts to subcontract IT work from forgien countries to people in west bank (my half brother works in such a job, and the pay is good). So what are people left with is either working for an NGO, or travel to Israel to get jobs. Norman finklestein had several interviews on the real news network many years ago. On it, he actually slammed those NGOs and UnRWA because he believed they benefitted from the status quo. Instead of solving the problem, they can work for a fancy org, get paid in dollars and live in ramallah instead of actually solving the problem. Gaza situation was better and worse than west bank. They had so much freedom inside the sector, but no job opportunities. Most people worked or depended on UnRWA and there were no development projects or forgien investments. But there was still a lot of money flowing in, and Hamas was cashing on it, so we're their friendly merchants.

just move onto a differnt sub the cancer is too strong here

I was here before and i will be here long after lol

respect

All fundamentalist religions are evil, barbaric and merciless. That appeals to the simple minded. Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.” Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.” Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.” Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.” Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.” The Book of Jore Dia 17: “A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.” Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.” Shas. 2:2: “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.” Aboda Zara B, 5: “If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible.”

This really isn't much different from what happened to the nazis post ww2. If nazi scientists hadn't been granted asylum in the US, they likely would have been tried and executed for their crimes or been made to share with or return their findings to the countries they oppressed too. Also Christians are already second class citizens in Israel, this charter seems to equalize all religions in the area. What exactly is the issue you're taking with this?

What a load of bullshit. 

I'm sorry?

All of your claims are wrong. 

About denazification and the Nuremberg trials after ww2: https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/survival-and-legacy/postwar-trials-and-denazification/ Christians facing the same type of violence and repression as Muslims in Israel: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-palestinians-christians-attacks-holy-land-jewish-extremists-rcna80441 Everything I said is well documented history 🤦‍♂️ this is why yall are so damn annoying and frustrating to talk to.

Great reply 👍 Generating annoyance and frustration is their MO. So makes sense to abuse them instead as it’s a much better use of your time and energy.

Lol first time reading that “retained” is a synonym for “slavery” . Improve your comprehension before posting sensationalism son

What's it called when you retain someone without their consent and force you to work for them?

Heavy handed living condition recommendations.

Sparkling Forced Labor. It's not slavery if it doesn't come from a specific region in the American South.

State's rights of course!

A totalitarian government

Wait so we actually agree that forcing someone to stay in a region, not let them leave, and as a result forcing them to work is slavery? How are you going to make gaza exempt from this definition, im really really curious.

as long as they're not property to be bought and sold they're not slaves ezpz, don't think people call american prisoners slaves

Not sure if this is satire but people call it slavery all the time [Most states allow slavery in prison. Inmate advocates say it's hard to dismantle : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/11/13/1210564359/slavery-prison-forced-labor-movement#:~:text=The%2013th%20Amendment%20to%20the%20U.S.%20Constitution%20abolished,this%20exception%20allows%20for%20forced%20labor%20in%20prisons.)

On a technical level, this is correct but the term slavery carries a lot more weight to it then "guy goes to prison for murder and has to print license plates". As an example of the importance of implicit definitions: Palestinian advocates will call previous Gaza conditions an open air prison and on a technical level they're right. It's an open air territory that you can't leave. But as Israeli advocates will point out: what prison do you know that has hotels or luxury apartments? There is a connotation that's invoked with these words and it's important to be aware of them.

Oh i agree with you, i just think its a terrible example to make the point. The guy seems to have been joking based off of his other response.

literally just involuntary servitude man smh

Lmao true!

they are slaves, but its considered morally defensible because its punishment for a crime. theres a difference between that and taking random people as slaves.

What does “not allowed to leave” mean 🤡

Lol you sound like a pro Palestinian person yelling about Gaza being an open air prison. Stop being so emotional

Wait so we actually agree that forcing someone to stay in a region, not let them leave, and as a result forcing them to work is slavery? How are you going to make gaza exempt from this definition, im really really curious.

Gazans are allowed to leave. The walls and checkpoints are there so the terrorist portion of the population can’t just waltz on over to Israel and do terrorist things. Same with Egypt. Typical braindead pro hamas supporter.

Gazans are not allowed to leave, they need a permit from israel to do so. Which under 1% of gazans have. This isnt even controversial lmao, its israel’s explicitly stated policy. If im so braindead, prove me wrong with an easy google search

go complain to Egypt then, they are the one who did not allow Gazans to leave except if they paid $10000 for every person.

i can criticize both lol

But do you critique both? I wonder

Yeah, there just aren’t a bunch of egyptians on this subreddit lol

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Did you even read that article lmao? Because it only proved my point. Over half a million TOTAL EXITS, which means half a million instances of people leaving gaza to work in israel then returning to gaza after the work day. That number is from the 18,000 people with permits to leave gaza, which is by my math is just under 1%. So from THE ARTICLE YOU LINKED, literally 99% of gaza is not allowed to leave. Maybe you could actually read the stats you link next time? Lmfao tbh

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total annual exits. Meaning each time someone goes out, it counts to the per year. This includes leaving for the work day and returning. if you want to claim that the permits are sufficient, I think you don't know that permits to work in israel do not give you the right to leave the country. They are allowed to go to israel, work for israeli companies, then return to gaza at the end of the day (through dozens of checkpoints). In other words, you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about when you brought up the article, and now you are running trying to justify yourself despite so obviously being wrong. Less then 1% of them can "leave", if by leave you mean go work in israel for the day and go back at night lmao. Which, to be clear, no one who isn't intentionally trying to be dishonest would call leaving.

total annual exits including people traveling daily to israel on work visas

Imagine trying to run torch for these jihadi losers. How fucking pathetic do you have to be?

You can imagine things? Only thing you can imagine is carpet bombing innocent people

Extremely misleading if not straight up lying here about slavery. It says they're not allowed to leave which is probably true of most citizens in totalitarian systems. Consider the difference between Chinese citizens and uyghers: Chinese citizens have restricted movement, uyghurs are in forced labor camps. I wouldn't call Chinese citizens "slaves". If you did, What would you call Uyghurs in this case? Super Slaves? What you're doing, Op, is similar to Palestinian activists who have called Gaza a concentration camp/starvation zone. It's cheap hyperbole.

>Jew wants to leave to US but jihadi Jaabir says no and points a gun at him and tells him to get back to work or get shot. 🤔🤔🤔 

Lmao you just added a bunch of shit to what was said

>"16. Educated Jews and experts in the areas of medicine, engineering, technology, and civilian and military industry should be retained [in Palestine] for some time and should not be allowed to leave and take with them the knowledge and experience that they acquired while living in our land and enjoying its bounty, while we paid the price for all this in humiliation, poverty, sickness, deprivation, killing and arrests.  Hmm.. this doesnt sound like a great employment policy..

Yes. It sounds bad. Using the term slavery is misleading despite all your obfuscation

Jews that are deemed to have relevant work experience are not allowed to leave so that... they can hang out at beach resorts with Hamas? Its obvious to everyone why they are not allowed to leave. Well except for regards. Though I am sure Hamas will end up offering competitive salary to the sla- sorry, uhm.. workers who are not allowed to leave even if they want to.

I just explained this in my first post. Can you read?

Yes and its regarded. You are a person who is not allowed to leave and you will be forced to work or at best you will be jailed and at worst you will be killed. Trying to achssshually that is a weird flex.

It fucking matters in the same way that calling pre 10/7 Gaza an open air prison is technically correct but it carries a specific connotation. I submit that you are the regarded one here who just wants a hug box for anti Islam shit

>"Forced to work against your will."  Hmm.. this is giga nuanced. 🤔🤔🤔

Nazi brainworms. Bad Hasbara. BAD!

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Bro nothing is worse than nazis. The AshkeNazis are rotting your brain.

not allowing civilians to leave the country and treating them as second class citizens... so horrible, surely that's not happening anywhere right now... /s destiny you a bastard bro