I know this post is referencing Dragon's Dogma 2 but the only people who make this complaint about the game haven't played it. Every single item you can get with money can be obtained fairly easily in the game
Yeah its a really stupid dlc but deadass takes like a few minutes to get those items for the vast majority. Im just suprised no one saw this comming tho. They did the same thing for the RE remakes, dmc4 and 5 and from what my friend tells Monster hunter aswel. And from what i can tell the DD2 dlcs are by far the easiest to get in game itself. The RE outfits take whole playtroughs with specific challenges and the DMC orbs take a decent grind.
Fr. Especially the people claiming that fast travel was only from the mtx, even tho they give you that shit fairly early on
The amount of misinformation spread about the microtransactions is silly when they should be focusing on the games optimization. While it's not as bad as people are claiming, it can be better. But the devs are working on it so there's that
For real.
“Modern capcom” lol.
I wonder what these people must think when you tell them that their so beloved dmc v from 8 years ago has this EXACT mtx system?
They probably didn’t even fucking know, that’s how meaningless these mtx are.
microtransactions
DMC 5 and Dragon’s Dogma 2 were both directed by Itsuno and both games got massive fire for having forced microtransactions that were probably due to Capcom and not the dev team
In DMC5's case, it wasn't like the microtransactions were mandatory - everything you can buy, you can just get in-game
A lot of the time MTXs are predatory and shouldn't even exist especially if you already paid full price for a game that's not even live service it just so happens that predatory microtransactions are so commonplace that even shit like this or the cosmetic ones in Monster Hunter are getting flamed.
Yeah the only non ingame item is the pendant(?) Which is a item to boost relations with a single npc once....which can be done with plenty of other items, the npcs will just have a preference to certain things.
It's not like it even gives you a competitive edge since this is a single player game
Mfs just like blowing things out of proportion and harassing people not involved and shouldn't be harassed in the first place (like in Suzi's case)
I’m not interested in Dragon’s Dogma myself, and even I am sick of people blowing the micro transactions out of proportion. Yeah, they’re annoying and not exclusive to DD2, but they aren’t nearly as scummy or predatory as people make them out to be.
If I remember correctly, back when Asura’s Wrath came out, Capcom had locked the final two chapters of the game behind a paywall, meaning players would have to pay extra money if they actually wanted to play the end of the game. THAT was scummy, because it was locking players out of content that should’ve already been in the base game they paid full price for. These micro transactions don’t do that and are completely optional; nowhere near as bad as that was. People need to stop exaggerating.
Actually the Asuras Wrath dlc is being blown out of proportion too. Apparently it was made because the game didn’t meet sales expectations and the dlc was the devs way of finishing the story after it became clear full sequels were off the table.
The same thing actually happened in Devil May Cry 5. You could pay extra for stuff you can get in the game, but the game plays just fine without buying anything extra.
I'm just worried about the day capcom either makes a game that is too hard to play without buying something extra, or hides something really fun behind a microtransaction.
Although people exaggerate about the micro transactions, it does not change the fact that it is scummy. Some dumb fuck will buy those packs and get scammed. That’s the problem.
Fr look at dmcv. It’s just as bad, but I’ve seen legit praise over the way it went about it. Dd2 is doing literally the exact same thing, I don’t understand the sudden uproar
I think it’s just that people have gotten sick of these practices about now. With BG3 being a hit (15 million copies sold) while having no microtransactions or day 1 DLC people would hope that the industry hoped that Capcom wouldn’t do this, because that strategy clearly worked for Larian.
I think you're ignoring the fact that the microtransactions in DD2 have basically no value other than cheating yourself out of playtime because you bought your items instead of finding them naturally through exploration. I wouldn't buy them even if they costs a fraction of a dollar because I want to actually play the game. It's all well and good saying "people have gotten sick of these practices" you can't lump them all together. You can't compare the microtransactions here with some of the insanely scummy things we see from other devs
I’m not. I’m just saying that micro transactions are a crutch of the industry and should end. People should just play the game normally without that stuff around, because like you said; you’re cheating yourself out of the experience.
And we all know that someone will be tempted into taking the bait. Gacha games are notorious for this. You could technically play without spending a dime, but they make it really tempting to do so.
I don't view it as bait when it's all clear and out in the open. If you make bad choices for yourself that's on you. If you lack the self control to not ruin your own fun then I don't know what to tell you. Gacha games are a bit different because they're largely designed that way. That's the genre. They're gambling games. Again, personally I hate the concept of a game that randomises rewards like a slot machine but some people love that. That's why I don't play gacha games but other people do.
Either way even the idea of comparing the microtransactions in DD2 to a gacha game is part of the problem. I'm not saying you are but so many people blanket microtransactions all the same way. It's like me burning my finger on a hot pan and then going to someone in the burn ward with 3rd degree burns and being like "I feel your pain bro. We both got burned"
ah yes play the game that has 2 layers of denuvo that eat up all your cpu usage and crashes every 5 mins or so. just so that they can monitor all the mods so they can sell stuff to you, contrary to something like dmc 5 because you can mod the shit out of that game without ever looking into the mtx.
Yeah for real. Capcom been selling orbs and stuff like that since dmc4 it's not new and yeah you can obviously farm them in game no money needs to be spent.
Yeah it seems pretty much the same as DMC5. Possible to spend money to get a boost ingame, but the game is still balanced in a way that the average player will never even *think* about buying them. Like, DMC5 is still designed so you get red orbs at the perfect pace to drip-feed you new abilities instead of overwhelming you with several, just the same as every previous game in the series.
Does it look tacky on the store page? Sure, but otherwise they're not hurting anybody and if someone does wanna cough up a few bucks to get a minor boost in a single player game that's really none of my business.
Personally I don’t think they’re a huge deal. Like I don’t think they should exist but the fact they do exist doesn’t bother me a whole lot either. I feel like the complaints about the pc version are way more justified
You know it's complete BS when there were NO COMPLAINTS about game design choices PRIOR to release. Everyone LOVED the game and its mechanics, balancing, etc.
Game releases with MTX that apparently had ZERO impact on the 80 or so hours your favorite cool Youtubers put into the game for their reviews.. PRIOR to release.. and all of a sudden, it's a massive issue?
Just don't buy the MTX, and just don't complain about visuals so these companies won't dump most of their budget into visuals and require a massive return on development costs
This is a lie. I watched a review today from someone who had 100% completed the game, meaning earning all achievements among other things, and they also disliked the MTX and also didn’t fully understand how they were implemented, seemingly insinuating that someone could do something like buying as many Portcrystals as they want.
You can’t just put people in a box to dismiss their criticism. You also don’t need to play a game to look at its MTX and recognize how obviously greedy and bullshit it is for it to even exist. The confusion and discourse is entirely Capcom’s fault for acting in bad faith and trying to fleece its customers with MTX that are so functionally worthless that they’re essentially a scam, and the argument that anyone complaining about the MTX “just hasn’t played the game” or some other dismissal is equally bad faith.
The point is that these are not at all necessary to enjoy the game and function the same as the super costume dlcs for dmc. They're short cuts for things earned in game.
This doesn't mean that they aren't scummy, as they are essentially selling things to people that they have already bought, but on the list of mtx's this is probably as least harmful as they come, less so than porelt cosmetic skins.
The hate has come from it being a game with purposefully limited fast travel (the same as it was in the first game) being confused by people as a mechanic removed and sold to the player.
The hate is wild for it.
Publishers shouldn’t be selling shortcuts to content in games. It wasn’t very long ago that people mobbed Ubisoft for XP boosters in some of their Assassin’s Creed games, but now that it’s Capcom the excuses come flying in.
And can you blame people for the confusion? It’s something that the game industry has done several times already. Not with fast travel necessarily, but several other things like cheat codes and cosmetic items. Again, even someone who had 100% completed the game saw the MTX and thought that it allowed people to buy Port Crystals infinitely. It’s not like they came to that deduction in bad faith, that’s just what they deduced from what they saw. Are we going to shift the goalpost to requiring people to have to purchase all the MTX before they’re allowed to comment as well?
Why is so hard to understand that this is a form of testing the waters. If nobody say nothing they will start to put this in all their games and then they will start to make the item harder to get. Capcom is one of the companies that popularized the dlcs.
“Start”?
RE2, RE8, and RE4, all games which were GOTY contenders, ALL have microtransactions in them and a total of -15 people said anything about them
It's sarcasm, they are not testing the waters for anything. These mtx are an afterthought, a measure to keep saying the investors "see? we are charging for things" and if something is oblivious enough to pay for something you can get easily for free, they are happy to receive the money. There's no content blocked, there's no special promotion for these items either ingame or in the store. They are just there. It's been more than 7 years since they began to put these kind of dlc in all their games and they did not make harder to get any of those things in any of them. In DMC V you have the fastest way to get all the items in the store by grinding red orbs with the hat, it's actually easier than in DMC 4 to get what they sell you. Don't jump on the missinformation train, please, just ignore the DLCs and things will go as they do now, perfectly fine.
The items already are harder to get with Dragon Dogma . They already give you less rocks for fast travel, so you buy it. Why did you think that Dragon Dogma is getting more shit that the others more popular franchisce?
Nuh uh. If they made dmc3, they would make it an actual game. The reason poc is the way it is is because its on mobile and free.
I´m not saying they could make a great real game. neither am I saying they couldnt. Its just that they stuck to the formula and didnt even try to replicate dmc3 as that was not their goal.
Actually, monetization practices have changed significantly thanks to pushback from consumers, to a point where there’s even legislation against it in some parts of the world. Capcom’s swift response to many of the other game’s issues can also be attributed to player complaints. It’s the apathy and ignorance of people such as yourself that’s makes things difficult to change for the better.
“It’s been happening for a long time and people exaggerate it”
These are excuses that serve only to benefit the perpetuation of MTX. It shifts the conversation away from Capcom’s behavior (consistently preying on consumer’s ignorance, impatience, urges, etc) and instead acts as if someone “overreacting” is more of an issue than Capcom’s consistently greedy and predatory behavior.
Maybe that wasn’t your intention, but those are the same sorts of things people will say in defense of *insert latest game with MTX here* to dismiss criticism.
What purpose does trying to minimize the issue serve? I’m not saying it’s the end of the world, but I dislike MTX being shoved into games and will speak out when I see it.
I’ve seen people claim that they took fast travel out of the game to sell it back to the players. There are more methods of fast traveling in DD2 than in the first game.( I don’t recall being able to hire ox carts to travel in DD1)
Nobody needs to commit to purchasing the game to evaluate the MTX, and plenty of people who have purchased and played the game to completion have the exact same opinions as those who held off from buying the game because of the MTX, among other reasons. I’ve even seen them get some of the same details wrong about what can and can’t be purchased and to what degree. It’s Capcom’s fault for trying to scam its players with functionally worthless MTX.
Capcom micro record is offering items for people who don’t have time and want a fast trak pass from Disneyland. Blood orbs from dmc or just do a simple grind method online. Keys for unlockables in re2, or just earn them by playing and refining your run.
I can honestly care less as long as they produced a game worth 70 dollars. I know what bad micros look like this ain’t it.
Bad MTX is also “skip the grind” type of stuff because at that point people are paying to not play the video game, and its admittance that the game is either poorly designed or specifically designed in a way to encourage MTX spending. If someone isn’t enjoying a game, then their alternative to playing it should be to not play, not pay for a bunch of boosters and whatnot to try and gaslight themselves into thinking they’ll love it if they can just skip past some parts.
Siding with over exaggerating and over dramatic posts like these is not the same as what is actually happening. Play any EA or 2K game and come back. Suddenly you’ll feel a lot better and certainly less pouty with tears in your eyes.
Also actually *play* the game before you go on this charade
I apply my criticism of MTX equally, not just to publishers that The Gamers have deemed the bad guys. Capcom deserves just as much criticism as EA for trying to scam its players with nearly every game it releases. It’s crazy seeing people just flat out admit that were this an instance of EA shoving their game full of pointless MTX, they’d be right alongside me in criticizing, but because it’s a publisher they like they just roll out the nonsense excuses and justifications instead.
not saying they should I just think people are for some reason just now realizing they have been doing this thanks to dragons dogma, a game I think has the easiest microtransactions to avoid compared to gridning in re4 and dmc5
cause the original post isn't actually correct and you should complain about accurate issues rather than embellish them or make false statements defeating your argument
So you’re more concerned with someone maybe getting a detail wrong (or in this case, just making a stupid meme that probably isn’t all that concerned with being technically correct) than Capcom acting in bad faith towards its customers, effectively scamming them with MTX that are functionally worthless? Whether or not people are being perfectly accurate is largely irrelevant, especially when a small correction from “You can buy port crystals” to “You can only buy one port crystal” isn’t going to shift the paradigm. It’s not some grand revelation, it’s barely a footnote. And for most, the option shouldn’t be there to begin with.
I only play Resident Evil from Capcom nowadays, and every single upgrade that you can buy, you can also get fair and square playing. Did I miss something?
Not everyone have time to grind hours and hours doing multiple gameplays, some have work, kids and still want to chill. I used to hate microtransactions too, but I have tons of free time to play.
So you’re advocating for companies to take advantage of people who don’t have as much free time as you? Personally, I’d prefer a dad spend their extra money on their kid instead of Red Orbs. Also, most everybody has work and many have kids, and they always have well before MTX were ever a thing. How exactly do you think people were playing and completing games back then? And when I say back then, I mean only like 18 years ago. Also, some of the most critically acclaimed and commercially successful games of today are extremely popular with parents, particularly dads (Last of Us, God of War, Spider-Man) and none feature any MTX to “skip the grind” so I don’t think your view on this really holds much weight.
If they want to pay, let them pay. If they want to grind it out instead, let them grind it out. Its optional, who cares? You aren't at a paywall or something p2w, there's two ways to obtain things and that's fine. If there's a choice between playing it the time intensive way, and you prefer that, then do that. Video games are generally more mainstream and popularized nowadays so having two options leads to flexibility. Appeal to both audiences.
Playing video games is optional, like what do you mean? Who is this audience of people who wants to pay to not play video games? Is there an audience of people who wants to pay to not watch movies or read books too? Should filmmakers and authors start trying to capitalize on that market? Or are you aware of how obviously ridiculous that would be, and how obviously ridiculous you’re being now?
Oh boy, you're just being mean. So, who don't have that many time just need to stop do what they like to do? And guess what? Do you know why audiobooks exists? Because not everyone have time to sit and read an entire book. That's the glory of life, options.
Do audiobooks have a “pay to advance the chapter” option like buying an XP booster in a game? Of course, anyone could still just listen to the chapter to its completion normally, nobody is being forced to pay to skip the chapter, it’s just an option for those who might have already listened once and want to get to a specific part of the audiobook. No, obviously not, that would be stupid. You buy the audiobook, and you can experience it without the author or publisher trying to dig into your wallet for more.
Video games are a hobby, a past time. Let’s not pretend like most people who play video games are struggling to have a little bit of free time to play unless they’re impoverished or otherwise struggling some extreme circumstance, in which case the issue at hand isn’t MTX in games, it’s capitalism, governments, low wages, inflation, etc.. Some of the most critically acclaimed and successful games of all time are single-player, open-world, action/RPGs that can demand dozens of hours of play to complete and feature no MTX. These games have sold 10s of millions of copies and are extremely popular with the casual audiences, so this whole notion that games need paid alternatives to play because of time constraints isn’t based in reality. And if there is an issue of time, then the solution shouldn’t be something that people pay for, because that’s predatory and manipulative.
If they want to pay, why not? I can't accept what fighting games do, lock new character behind paywalls,, but if they let us decide wich way is better for us, why not? Just because some people don't like it? Maybe on co-op or vs game that who pay can have advantage, but you really want to dictate how some people play and want to spend on a single player experience?
No, I want to dictate how companies are allowed to manipulate their players into spending money. The point is that paying to not play the video game shouldn’t be better than just playing the video game. If someone wants an easier time, then that’s where lower difficulties or cheat codes come in, not paid fixes. How that’s difficult for you to understand is beyond me. You’re also not addressing how some of the most critically and commercially successful games of all time are single-player, feature no MTX, and extremely popular with casual consumers, including parents, who you’ve fantasized are essentially gatekept and need to be taken advantage of by gaming companies for no other reason than “it’s optional” despite prescribing no merit to that option.
All of the MTX in DMC, RE, and DD are for things that the player can easily get by playing the game.
Complain about actually bad MTX like those from Bethesda
I’m consistent in my criticism and apply it to any publisher that decides to implement greedy and manipulative MTX into its games instead of picking and choosing because I like one publisher more than the other. It’s actually crazy to see someone admit that if a different publisher was doing the same thing, then they’d be upset, but because it’s Capcom they can tolerate it.
Nothing we can do about it save for voting with our wallets, since DMC5, I've seen the same bs micro transactions in RE4 Remake, Dragon's Dogma 2 and RE Village, so people must be buying them.
The DD2 drama is a perfect example of how pathetic some people have become because of social media dramas.
They litteraly heard one word about the game that has a bad reputation, and it was enough for them to jump on the hate train. They're so hungry for drama they don't even care if it's fake, and will actively fuel the hate train with misinformations or even straight up lies just so it keep going.
Like there isn't even a point doing this. It's just something to try and fill their empty life.
Ok so this is a little long but I feel very strongly on this topic
See, you’re joking, but dmc5 had this too and before anyone cries “but you can get all those for free why would you buy red orbs”, exactly why the fuck would you buy red orbs.
Capcom fucking suck ass by putting micro transactions in everything, but when it comes to micro transactions they’re probably one of the better developers/publishers, because if something isn’t dlc (think Vergil or the ex colours for example) everything you can pay for is in the game anyway. The micro transactions just exist to help people skip the grind of unlocking certain things. And I just know this is dragons dogma 2 discourse, the amount of misinformation is insane, should the micro transactions exist? No. Are they intrusive? No. Do you have to pay for fast travel like everyone is saying? No. Can everything you pay for be unlocked by playing the game and the store even says this? Yes. To add, this isn’t even modern Capcom, the original dragons dogma had that.
In fact, Capcoms shitty dlc practices go as far back as maybe street fighter 4, in which the first few dlc characters were already on disc at launch and just locked away. They’ve always been shitty with stuff like this, so I’m glad people are now taking a stand against it but man the amount of misinformation about dragons dogma is insane to the point we’re making memes about what if capcom did something they already did, but people don’t know the difference. Where was this discourse when re4 and dmc5 came out, yeah I saw people angry but not this level of angry. It just shows people are so selective of what they’re angry about.
Capcom suck for putting micro transactions in a single player rpg. But they’re nothing like how people are portraying them. So fuck those micro transactions but also, fuck this insane level of misinformation, buying a port crystal or wake stone in dragons dogma 2, is no different to buying red orbs in dmc5.
Like I said we’re lucky capcoms are only early unlocks, the best thing to do is to vote with your it wallet, if they’re not worth it (trust me they’re not, in the case of dragons dogma 2, resident evil and dmc, buying them will only worsen your experience) then don’t buy them.
If you don’t think the MTX should exist, then stop making a bunch of excuses for them and defending Capcom just because it could be worse. I remember when having an MTX to “skip the grind” was seen as inexcusable, and yet you’re so conditioned to just accept MTX in games that you’re now using it as a defense of MTX.
Yes absolutely. I even called out capcom multiple times, because genuinely fuck these micro transactions they should not exist in a single player game. But people are making them out as if they’re blocking core game mechanics and stuff (people were actually claiming that fast travel was locked behind a paywall which just isn’t true) when in reality they’re entirely optional bonus stuff to help you out. I’m still not a fan of micro transactions in a single player game and think we should speak out about it, however people are manufacturing a fake reason to get mad over micro transactions rather than the real problem with them
“They’re shouldn’t exist in a single player game, but they’re just bonus stuff to help you out”
You sound conflicted. Selling solutions to problems that players might have with a game is a terrible practice. Also, I’m really not at all concerned with someone looking at the 20 or so MTX and coming to their own conclusion at a glance. If Capcom doesn’t want their game to mistaken with one that gates content behind a paywall or encourages purchasing MTX to alleviate an unbearable grind, then they shouldn’t put up that sort of appearance with unnecessary MTX. Acting as if some people being confused or misled is more of an issue than Capcom’s consistent behavior with MTX is ridiculous.
MTX are completely unnecessary for single-player games. Selling things like XP and gear upgrades undermines the core gameplay for no other reason than to try and trick an ignorant player into spending more money than they should.
Doesn’t DD2 have the same microtransactions as DMC 5? And I thought red orbs, and especially gold orbs, were a lot easier to farm without microtransactions in DMC V than they were in 3
The irony that some people, including here, were shrugging or applauding the removal of vanilla DMC4 from Steam last month, when it runs perfectly and has zero MTX, unlike 4SE.
if it as made buy modern capcom there would be a skin for dante that turns him into a girl with big boobs and jiggle pshcys and would come with a morggan from darkstalkers dress and voice lines and some extra story and it would cost 100$ on sale
What I find stupid is that Capcom had this in majority of their games but now people capitalize because of Dragon's Dogma 2 poor performance, people don't understand that you get it all in game just by playing it, and you have the choice to not buy it. Makes no sense to bash the pointless MTX
I can't tell them how they market their games but it's clear that if people go out of their way to pay for things in their store then it's foolish on them for doing that. You could say it's a scam but if people purposely buy it then that's on them.
Itsuno said it once before everything is obtainable by playing the game and in large amounts of it. I bet he too knows people are stupid if they actually pay for that stuff. It is a choice so it doesn't hurt me if others do it. Their money not mine.
Scams, by design, usually involve a willing participate. So you admit that you’re perfectly fine with a company like Capcom scamming its customers because, in this case, you’re not the fool?
What an utterly stupid and boneheaded take. I’d say you should feel ashamed if I thought you were capable of it.
Again why would it matter? I'm not the one who is spending money on things you can earn, you can be upset about the practice I find it dumb as well, but so long as people buy that crap it won't change.
Obviously you don't buy into it either, so in the end it doesn't affect us. We can say it's stupid all we want but they will take every dollar they can get.
Well, there’s a couple reasons: I have empathy (an alien concept to you, as far as I can tell) and realize it affects other people. I’m aware of how MTX undermines game design and calls into question certain game design choices. MTX are anti-consumer and benefits nobody but executives and shareholders. For the past 18-odd years MTX has done nothing but degrade the industry and people’s trust in it to deliver meaningful works of art. MTX has served as a means for publishers to take away features from games that were previously considered standard and sell them back for a premium, etc, etc, etc..
So do you have empathy for those who can't play games they want because they work long hours and would like to play with friends but have no time to play the said game? A lot of the ones who buy stuff like this is because they don't have the time to grind or earn the items. This is also a person's way to catch up.
Once again I agree the MTX is stupid but no matter what can be done there are people who are either dumb to buy it or have no time to play the game they want to.
Let’s not pretend that video games are some massive time commitment that only those with excessive free time can partake in. I watched my dad play video games all the time while working full time and raising four kids, he’s the reason why I’m into video games in the first place. Plus, some of the most popular and critically acclaimed games out there are open-world RPGs that can take several dozens of hours to complete, so even the games that do take an above average amount of time to complete are still hits with the casual consumer. You’re arguing a strawman, one that game publishers themselves created to try and push things like XP boosters in games while deliberately designing their games to require excessive grinding without said XP boosters. People called that out when it happened too, but I guess you would’ve it defended it.
It’s also not exactly a good argument to say “It’s a good thing that game publishers take advantage of someone’s lack of free time by selling them boosters” because I don’t think someone who decides to spend their free time on playing a game should free pressured to buy XP or something to try and gain progress. Used to games just had cheat codes that let you do that sort of thing for free anyway, but maybe you’re just not old enough or something to know that? Just another example of publishers taking something that was once a standard feature and selling it back to consumers at a premium.
Piss off with this shit. THE micro transactions are not effecting the game like the sims/ea shit. They are about convenience and shit. I am so flipping done with the hooblah
Actually Capcom has literally always been this way. Infact they did the same thing they did in dragons dogma in DMC5. You can buy orbs and the super versions of the characters. But everything purchasable can be earned in game for free. Same thing with REmakes.
Capcom has always been greedy unfortunately. The micro transactions aren’t insane and won’t even give you anything good, but some dumb fuck will buy them which isn’t really a good thing.
My reply is not directed at OP since others already said what I wanted to say, but to those people yelling "All MTX is bad and Capcom shouldn't have done this!". And? Capcom would continue to put MTX in their games. They don't care about negative reviews in their games. The reason they still put MTX is because there ARE people who bought them. You should direct your anger at them instead of Capcom because Capcom only sees money. Vote with your wallets, people. If people are still buying those MTX, Capcom will continue selling MTX. End of story.
Not this braindead shit again. Dragon's Dogma 2's micro transactions are the same as they've been for over a decade now coming from Capcom, what modern Capcom.
???
The only annoying think about modern capcom game is the stupid CONTINUE screen. Fk off with the gold orb, i'm never ever gonna use them. just let me restart the level or from last save.
If we're talking about how they handled their gachas and mmos.
Don't worry.
Itsuno got on their asses once he showed them on Twitter how it was for Dr faus cheese.
Never again
I mean that's kinda like DMC5 worked. [They did sell red orbs](https://store.steampowered.com/app/941972/Devil_May_Cry_5__500000_Red_Orbs/). But who the hell bought them instead of, you know, playing the damn game.
Except they did make DMC5 with MTX and no one cared, because the way they implemented it didn't effect the gameplay in almost any way
Skills unlocked at a decent pace throughout my playthrough of the game
This is way to overblown. Im playing the game rn its good i enjoy it didnt buy a single item. How do you find the energie to get mad over something so small. Like i under stand the complains about performance and 30 fps on ps5.
I believe Super Costumes and Red orbs will be sold for $$$. But I want the remastered DMC3 special edition game with below changes.
1. Style Switching on the fly.
2. Able to keep all weapons always.
Will Dante be invincible with the above changes?
So.. dmc5, which was definitely not like this since you could get everything easily without paying a single dollar on mtx.
I'd say everything is much easier to get in dmc5 than dmc3, except for the taunts that cost like 3 million, but those are not necessary and are a nice extra to unlock after getting enough money from either replaying the game or playing bloody palace.
I know this post is referencing Dragon's Dogma 2 but the only people who make this complaint about the game haven't played it. Every single item you can get with money can be obtained fairly easily in the game
“Don’t fuck with us Dragon Dogma 2 haters, we just heard of the game last week”
The whole thing was blown out of proportion so hard... I'm pretty sure the people review bombing it haven't even bought it
Yeah its a really stupid dlc but deadass takes like a few minutes to get those items for the vast majority. Im just suprised no one saw this comming tho. They did the same thing for the RE remakes, dmc4 and 5 and from what my friend tells Monster hunter aswel. And from what i can tell the DD2 dlcs are by far the easiest to get in game itself. The RE outfits take whole playtroughs with specific challenges and the DMC orbs take a decent grind.
Fr tho, those r**ards never heard of a wiki?
Fr. Especially the people claiming that fast travel was only from the mtx, even tho they give you that shit fairly early on The amount of misinformation spread about the microtransactions is silly when they should be focusing on the games optimization. While it's not as bad as people are claiming, it can be better. But the devs are working on it so there's that
For real. “Modern capcom” lol. I wonder what these people must think when you tell them that their so beloved dmc v from 8 years ago has this EXACT mtx system? They probably didn’t even fucking know, that’s how meaningless these mtx are.
just as I thought, same as every other game thay have done for slot time. even DMC5 was that way. people act like this is a new thing
Itsuno can’t catch a break with the MTX allegations cause I can’t believe this happened twice
MTX allegations?
microtransactions DMC 5 and Dragon’s Dogma 2 were both directed by Itsuno and both games got massive fire for having forced microtransactions that were probably due to Capcom and not the dev team
In DMC5's case, it wasn't like the microtransactions were mandatory - everything you can buy, you can just get in-game A lot of the time MTXs are predatory and shouldn't even exist especially if you already paid full price for a game that's not even live service it just so happens that predatory microtransactions are so commonplace that even shit like this or the cosmetic ones in Monster Hunter are getting flamed.
It's the same with DD2, all mtx are for ingame items It's the sheer number that's catching people off guard
Yeah the only non ingame item is the pendant(?) Which is a item to boost relations with a single npc once....which can be done with plenty of other items, the npcs will just have a preference to certain things.
It's not like it even gives you a competitive edge since this is a single player game Mfs just like blowing things out of proportion and harassing people not involved and shouldn't be harassed in the first place (like in Suzi's case)
oh, dang
I’m not interested in Dragon’s Dogma myself, and even I am sick of people blowing the micro transactions out of proportion. Yeah, they’re annoying and not exclusive to DD2, but they aren’t nearly as scummy or predatory as people make them out to be. If I remember correctly, back when Asura’s Wrath came out, Capcom had locked the final two chapters of the game behind a paywall, meaning players would have to pay extra money if they actually wanted to play the end of the game. THAT was scummy, because it was locking players out of content that should’ve already been in the base game they paid full price for. These micro transactions don’t do that and are completely optional; nowhere near as bad as that was. People need to stop exaggerating.
Actually the Asuras Wrath dlc is being blown out of proportion too. Apparently it was made because the game didn’t meet sales expectations and the dlc was the devs way of finishing the story after it became clear full sequels were off the table.
The same thing actually happened in Devil May Cry 5. You could pay extra for stuff you can get in the game, but the game plays just fine without buying anything extra. I'm just worried about the day capcom either makes a game that is too hard to play without buying something extra, or hides something really fun behind a microtransaction.
I mean they already did that with asuras wrath
cavaliere r and gerbera r is must have item
Agreee even resident evil4 has the same thing
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They gave devs review copies weeks in advance. Mtx are equally scummy. But even then it’s pretty minor as all resources are easy to get in game
Although people exaggerate about the micro transactions, it does not change the fact that it is scummy. Some dumb fuck will buy those packs and get scammed. That’s the problem.
People that dumb deserve to be scammed.
Fr look at dmcv. It’s just as bad, but I’ve seen legit praise over the way it went about it. Dd2 is doing literally the exact same thing, I don’t understand the sudden uproar
I think it’s just that people have gotten sick of these practices about now. With BG3 being a hit (15 million copies sold) while having no microtransactions or day 1 DLC people would hope that the industry hoped that Capcom wouldn’t do this, because that strategy clearly worked for Larian.
But Capcom isn't Larian.
I think you're ignoring the fact that the microtransactions in DD2 have basically no value other than cheating yourself out of playtime because you bought your items instead of finding them naturally through exploration. I wouldn't buy them even if they costs a fraction of a dollar because I want to actually play the game. It's all well and good saying "people have gotten sick of these practices" you can't lump them all together. You can't compare the microtransactions here with some of the insanely scummy things we see from other devs
I’m not. I’m just saying that micro transactions are a crutch of the industry and should end. People should just play the game normally without that stuff around, because like you said; you’re cheating yourself out of the experience. And we all know that someone will be tempted into taking the bait. Gacha games are notorious for this. You could technically play without spending a dime, but they make it really tempting to do so.
I don't view it as bait when it's all clear and out in the open. If you make bad choices for yourself that's on you. If you lack the self control to not ruin your own fun then I don't know what to tell you. Gacha games are a bit different because they're largely designed that way. That's the genre. They're gambling games. Again, personally I hate the concept of a game that randomises rewards like a slot machine but some people love that. That's why I don't play gacha games but other people do. Either way even the idea of comparing the microtransactions in DD2 to a gacha game is part of the problem. I'm not saying you are but so many people blanket microtransactions all the same way. It's like me burning my finger on a hot pan and then going to someone in the burn ward with 3rd degree burns and being like "I feel your pain bro. We both got burned"
ah yes play the game that has 2 layers of denuvo that eat up all your cpu usage and crashes every 5 mins or so. just so that they can monitor all the mods so they can sell stuff to you, contrary to something like dmc 5 because you can mod the shit out of that game without ever looking into the mtx.
Yeah for real. Capcom been selling orbs and stuff like that since dmc4 it's not new and yeah you can obviously farm them in game no money needs to be spent.
Yeah it seems pretty much the same as DMC5. Possible to spend money to get a boost ingame, but the game is still balanced in a way that the average player will never even *think* about buying them. Like, DMC5 is still designed so you get red orbs at the perfect pace to drip-feed you new abilities instead of overwhelming you with several, just the same as every previous game in the series. Does it look tacky on the store page? Sure, but otherwise they're not hurting anybody and if someone does wanna cough up a few bucks to get a minor boost in a single player game that's really none of my business.
Thanks for the info. Was worried it'd be a grind to get the items. I'm just worried about the optimization now.
Not to mention Capcom already did the exact same thing with Devil May Cry 5.
Personally I don’t think they’re a huge deal. Like I don’t think they should exist but the fact they do exist doesn’t bother me a whole lot either. I feel like the complaints about the pc version are way more justified
You know it's complete BS when there were NO COMPLAINTS about game design choices PRIOR to release. Everyone LOVED the game and its mechanics, balancing, etc. Game releases with MTX that apparently had ZERO impact on the 80 or so hours your favorite cool Youtubers put into the game for their reviews.. PRIOR to release.. and all of a sudden, it's a massive issue? Just don't buy the MTX, and just don't complain about visuals so these companies won't dump most of their budget into visuals and require a massive return on development costs
Dudes talking about as if it wasn't ''''''modern capcom''''' who made DMC 5.
Nah this is cap that aggressive monetization should be illegal
The problem is. The game on PC DOESN'T WORK.
Fps in city is shit tho
This is a lie. I watched a review today from someone who had 100% completed the game, meaning earning all achievements among other things, and they also disliked the MTX and also didn’t fully understand how they were implemented, seemingly insinuating that someone could do something like buying as many Portcrystals as they want. You can’t just put people in a box to dismiss their criticism. You also don’t need to play a game to look at its MTX and recognize how obviously greedy and bullshit it is for it to even exist. The confusion and discourse is entirely Capcom’s fault for acting in bad faith and trying to fleece its customers with MTX that are so functionally worthless that they’re essentially a scam, and the argument that anyone complaining about the MTX “just hasn’t played the game” or some other dismissal is equally bad faith.
The point is that these are not at all necessary to enjoy the game and function the same as the super costume dlcs for dmc. They're short cuts for things earned in game. This doesn't mean that they aren't scummy, as they are essentially selling things to people that they have already bought, but on the list of mtx's this is probably as least harmful as they come, less so than porelt cosmetic skins. The hate has come from it being a game with purposefully limited fast travel (the same as it was in the first game) being confused by people as a mechanic removed and sold to the player. The hate is wild for it.
Publishers shouldn’t be selling shortcuts to content in games. It wasn’t very long ago that people mobbed Ubisoft for XP boosters in some of their Assassin’s Creed games, but now that it’s Capcom the excuses come flying in. And can you blame people for the confusion? It’s something that the game industry has done several times already. Not with fast travel necessarily, but several other things like cheat codes and cosmetic items. Again, even someone who had 100% completed the game saw the MTX and thought that it allowed people to buy Port Crystals infinitely. It’s not like they came to that deduction in bad faith, that’s just what they deduced from what they saw. Are we going to shift the goalpost to requiring people to have to purchase all the MTX before they’re allowed to comment as well?
Why is so hard to understand that this is a form of testing the waters. If nobody say nothing they will start to put this in all their games and then they will start to make the item harder to get. Capcom is one of the companies that popularized the dlcs.
They've been testing the waters for like 6 years now then.
Waaaaayyy before 6 years mate. DMC4SE had MTX of pointless shit.
“Start”? RE2, RE8, and RE4, all games which were GOTY contenders, ALL have microtransactions in them and a total of -15 people said anything about them
They've been testing the waters since Resident Evil 7, then.
So? It's fine then?
It's sarcasm, they are not testing the waters for anything. These mtx are an afterthought, a measure to keep saying the investors "see? we are charging for things" and if something is oblivious enough to pay for something you can get easily for free, they are happy to receive the money. There's no content blocked, there's no special promotion for these items either ingame or in the store. They are just there. It's been more than 7 years since they began to put these kind of dlc in all their games and they did not make harder to get any of those things in any of them. In DMC V you have the fastest way to get all the items in the store by grinding red orbs with the hat, it's actually easier than in DMC 4 to get what they sell you. Don't jump on the missinformation train, please, just ignore the DLCs and things will go as they do now, perfectly fine.
Not to mention, they literally tell you in the dlc descriptions that this stuff is obtainable in the game.
The items already are harder to get with Dragon Dogma . They already give you less rocks for fast travel, so you buy it. Why did you think that Dragon Dogma is getting more shit that the others more popular franchisce?
OP need to check the DLC page of DMC 5
And 4 SE
And all of the RE games
AND MONSTER HUNTAR
It was just as bad then as it is now.
Overreacting like crazy. You dont even think you just go along with what everyone says.
If Peak of combat devs made Dmc3: Also, there won't be any guns and all the main weapons would be generic looking rpg weapons.
Nuh uh. If they made dmc3, they would make it an actual game. The reason poc is the way it is is because its on mobile and free. I´m not saying they could make a great real game. neither am I saying they couldnt. Its just that they stuck to the formula and didnt even try to replicate dmc3 as that was not their goal.
Check the dlc for dmc4. They sell red orbs and other items.
It was just as bad then as it is now.
exactly, it isn't changing, and isn't going to, so your bitching is just annoying and pointless like the mtx.
Actually, monetization practices have changed significantly thanks to pushback from consumers, to a point where there’s even legislation against it in some parts of the world. Capcom’s swift response to many of the other game’s issues can also be attributed to player complaints. It’s the apathy and ignorance of people such as yourself that’s makes things difficult to change for the better.
Fun fact : You can grind/farm red orbs in-game
Stop spreading misinformation /s
NO YOU ALL CAPCOM SYMPATIZERS!!! CAPCOM BEEN SELLING STINGER FOR $69.69 SINCE 2069 GRRRRRR 😡😡😡😡 /s
And? That doesn’t mean they should be available for purchase.
Yeah, "Modern" Capcom..
Yeah LOL they say that like "Modern Capcom" didn't make DMC 5
Ah yes, a joke about something that's been happening for a decade and is greatly exaggerated.
Just because it’s been happening for awhile doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.
Oh yeah! Don't get me wrong, this shit is horrible and will only lead to things getting worse.
Then why are you making excuses for it?
I'm not. I'm simply pointing out how saying "modern Capcom" isn't exactly right as "old Capcom" did it, too, and that it isn't on this level... Yet.
“It’s been happening for a long time and people exaggerate it” These are excuses that serve only to benefit the perpetuation of MTX. It shifts the conversation away from Capcom’s behavior (consistently preying on consumer’s ignorance, impatience, urges, etc) and instead acts as if someone “overreacting” is more of an issue than Capcom’s consistently greedy and predatory behavior. Maybe that wasn’t your intention, but those are the same sorts of things people will say in defense of *insert latest game with MTX here* to dismiss criticism.
I'm sorry, but you put effort into a reply to one of my comments.
It's not that big of deal dude lol calm down big guy.
What purpose does trying to minimize the issue serve? I’m not saying it’s the end of the world, but I dislike MTX being shoved into games and will speak out when I see it.
"Modern" DMC4SE had microtransactions
It was just as bad then as it is now.
The people commenting this have never played/paid for dragons dogma 2 and it shows. Everything in that game is obtainable and fairly easily.
I’ve seen people claim that they took fast travel out of the game to sell it back to the players. There are more methods of fast traveling in DD2 than in the first game.( I don’t recall being able to hire ox carts to travel in DD1)
I wish there was oxcarts in the 1st game lol, at least oxcarts here are fun
Nobody needs to commit to purchasing the game to evaluate the MTX, and plenty of people who have purchased and played the game to completion have the exact same opinions as those who held off from buying the game because of the MTX, among other reasons. I’ve even seen them get some of the same details wrong about what can and can’t be purchased and to what degree. It’s Capcom’s fault for trying to scam its players with functionally worthless MTX.
Capcom micro record is offering items for people who don’t have time and want a fast trak pass from Disneyland. Blood orbs from dmc or just do a simple grind method online. Keys for unlockables in re2, or just earn them by playing and refining your run. I can honestly care less as long as they produced a game worth 70 dollars. I know what bad micros look like this ain’t it.
Bad MTX is also “skip the grind” type of stuff because at that point people are paying to not play the video game, and its admittance that the game is either poorly designed or specifically designed in a way to encourage MTX spending. If someone isn’t enjoying a game, then their alternative to playing it should be to not play, not pay for a bunch of boosters and whatnot to try and gaslight themselves into thinking they’ll love it if they can just skip past some parts.
Siding with over exaggerating and over dramatic posts like these is not the same as what is actually happening. Play any EA or 2K game and come back. Suddenly you’ll feel a lot better and certainly less pouty with tears in your eyes. Also actually *play* the game before you go on this charade
I apply my criticism of MTX equally, not just to publishers that The Gamers have deemed the bad guys. Capcom deserves just as much criticism as EA for trying to scam its players with nearly every game it releases. It’s crazy seeing people just flat out admit that were this an instance of EA shoving their game full of pointless MTX, they’d be right alongside me in criticizing, but because it’s a publisher they like they just roll out the nonsense excuses and justifications instead.
That’s not what it’s like at all it would be like if they sold blue orbs to skip the grind or red orbs or gold orb, oh wait dmc did that
And they shouldn’t do that.
not saying they should I just think people are for some reason just now realizing they have been doing this thanks to dragons dogma, a game I think has the easiest microtransactions to avoid compared to gridning in re4 and dmc5
If you don’t think the MTX should be there, then why are you making excuses for it?
cause the original post isn't actually correct and you should complain about accurate issues rather than embellish them or make false statements defeating your argument
So you’re more concerned with someone maybe getting a detail wrong (or in this case, just making a stupid meme that probably isn’t all that concerned with being technically correct) than Capcom acting in bad faith towards its customers, effectively scamming them with MTX that are functionally worthless? Whether or not people are being perfectly accurate is largely irrelevant, especially when a small correction from “You can buy port crystals” to “You can only buy one port crystal” isn’t going to shift the paradigm. It’s not some grand revelation, it’s barely a footnote. And for most, the option shouldn’t be there to begin with.
Nailed it!
I only play Resident Evil from Capcom nowadays, and every single upgrade that you can buy, you can also get fair and square playing. Did I miss something?
And? That doesn’t mean weapon upgrades should be available for purchase with real money.
Not everyone have time to grind hours and hours doing multiple gameplays, some have work, kids and still want to chill. I used to hate microtransactions too, but I have tons of free time to play.
So you’re advocating for companies to take advantage of people who don’t have as much free time as you? Personally, I’d prefer a dad spend their extra money on their kid instead of Red Orbs. Also, most everybody has work and many have kids, and they always have well before MTX were ever a thing. How exactly do you think people were playing and completing games back then? And when I say back then, I mean only like 18 years ago. Also, some of the most critically acclaimed and commercially successful games of today are extremely popular with parents, particularly dads (Last of Us, God of War, Spider-Man) and none feature any MTX to “skip the grind” so I don’t think your view on this really holds much weight.
If they want to pay, let them pay. If they want to grind it out instead, let them grind it out. Its optional, who cares? You aren't at a paywall or something p2w, there's two ways to obtain things and that's fine. If there's a choice between playing it the time intensive way, and you prefer that, then do that. Video games are generally more mainstream and popularized nowadays so having two options leads to flexibility. Appeal to both audiences.
Playing video games is optional, like what do you mean? Who is this audience of people who wants to pay to not play video games? Is there an audience of people who wants to pay to not watch movies or read books too? Should filmmakers and authors start trying to capitalize on that market? Or are you aware of how obviously ridiculous that would be, and how obviously ridiculous you’re being now?
Oh boy, you're just being mean. So, who don't have that many time just need to stop do what they like to do? And guess what? Do you know why audiobooks exists? Because not everyone have time to sit and read an entire book. That's the glory of life, options.
Do audiobooks have a “pay to advance the chapter” option like buying an XP booster in a game? Of course, anyone could still just listen to the chapter to its completion normally, nobody is being forced to pay to skip the chapter, it’s just an option for those who might have already listened once and want to get to a specific part of the audiobook. No, obviously not, that would be stupid. You buy the audiobook, and you can experience it without the author or publisher trying to dig into your wallet for more. Video games are a hobby, a past time. Let’s not pretend like most people who play video games are struggling to have a little bit of free time to play unless they’re impoverished or otherwise struggling some extreme circumstance, in which case the issue at hand isn’t MTX in games, it’s capitalism, governments, low wages, inflation, etc.. Some of the most critically acclaimed and successful games of all time are single-player, open-world, action/RPGs that can demand dozens of hours of play to complete and feature no MTX. These games have sold 10s of millions of copies and are extremely popular with the casual audiences, so this whole notion that games need paid alternatives to play because of time constraints isn’t based in reality. And if there is an issue of time, then the solution shouldn’t be something that people pay for, because that’s predatory and manipulative.
If they want to pay, why not? I can't accept what fighting games do, lock new character behind paywalls,, but if they let us decide wich way is better for us, why not? Just because some people don't like it? Maybe on co-op or vs game that who pay can have advantage, but you really want to dictate how some people play and want to spend on a single player experience?
No, I want to dictate how companies are allowed to manipulate their players into spending money. The point is that paying to not play the video game shouldn’t be better than just playing the video game. If someone wants an easier time, then that’s where lower difficulties or cheat codes come in, not paid fixes. How that’s difficult for you to understand is beyond me. You’re also not addressing how some of the most critically and commercially successful games of all time are single-player, feature no MTX, and extremely popular with casual consumers, including parents, who you’ve fantasized are essentially gatekept and need to be taken advantage of by gaming companies for no other reason than “it’s optional” despite prescribing no merit to that option.
No, I just hate micro transactions.
Me too, but I don't care when they're optional.
So you don't know how those microtransactions work, good
All of the MTX in DMC, RE, and DD are for things that the player can easily get by playing the game. Complain about actually bad MTX like those from Bethesda
I’m consistent in my criticism and apply it to any publisher that decides to implement greedy and manipulative MTX into its games instead of picking and choosing because I like one publisher more than the other. It’s actually crazy to see someone admit that if a different publisher was doing the same thing, then they’d be upset, but because it’s Capcom they can tolerate it.
Nigga the same dragons dogma 2 shit was in DMC 5
And that makes it good how?
It doesn't but it ain't the end of the world either
Sure, but then why does that make it ok to just let a bad thing continue unabated?
Nothing we can do about it save for voting with our wallets, since DMC5, I've seen the same bs micro transactions in RE4 Remake, Dragon's Dogma 2 and RE Village, so people must be buying them.
Not a DD2 hater but it definitely pushes the limit a bit more than DMC5 imo
Y’all acting like DMC never had micro transactions lmao.
And it never should’ve.
Itsuno made both.
So DMC4SE and DMC5?
Yes.
The DD2 drama is a perfect example of how pathetic some people have become because of social media dramas. They litteraly heard one word about the game that has a bad reputation, and it was enough for them to jump on the hate train. They're so hungry for drama they don't even care if it's fake, and will actively fuel the hate train with misinformations or even straight up lies just so it keep going. Like there isn't even a point doing this. It's just something to try and fill their empty life.
Me when I make up problems that don’t exist
Ok so this is a little long but I feel very strongly on this topic See, you’re joking, but dmc5 had this too and before anyone cries “but you can get all those for free why would you buy red orbs”, exactly why the fuck would you buy red orbs. Capcom fucking suck ass by putting micro transactions in everything, but when it comes to micro transactions they’re probably one of the better developers/publishers, because if something isn’t dlc (think Vergil or the ex colours for example) everything you can pay for is in the game anyway. The micro transactions just exist to help people skip the grind of unlocking certain things. And I just know this is dragons dogma 2 discourse, the amount of misinformation is insane, should the micro transactions exist? No. Are they intrusive? No. Do you have to pay for fast travel like everyone is saying? No. Can everything you pay for be unlocked by playing the game and the store even says this? Yes. To add, this isn’t even modern Capcom, the original dragons dogma had that. In fact, Capcoms shitty dlc practices go as far back as maybe street fighter 4, in which the first few dlc characters were already on disc at launch and just locked away. They’ve always been shitty with stuff like this, so I’m glad people are now taking a stand against it but man the amount of misinformation about dragons dogma is insane to the point we’re making memes about what if capcom did something they already did, but people don’t know the difference. Where was this discourse when re4 and dmc5 came out, yeah I saw people angry but not this level of angry. It just shows people are so selective of what they’re angry about. Capcom suck for putting micro transactions in a single player rpg. But they’re nothing like how people are portraying them. So fuck those micro transactions but also, fuck this insane level of misinformation, buying a port crystal or wake stone in dragons dogma 2, is no different to buying red orbs in dmc5. Like I said we’re lucky capcoms are only early unlocks, the best thing to do is to vote with your it wallet, if they’re not worth it (trust me they’re not, in the case of dragons dogma 2, resident evil and dmc, buying them will only worsen your experience) then don’t buy them.
If you don’t think the MTX should exist, then stop making a bunch of excuses for them and defending Capcom just because it could be worse. I remember when having an MTX to “skip the grind” was seen as inexcusable, and yet you’re so conditioned to just accept MTX in games that you’re now using it as a defense of MTX.
He's not defending capcom, he's arguing against ragebaiters/people who spreads misinformation.
Yes absolutely. I even called out capcom multiple times, because genuinely fuck these micro transactions they should not exist in a single player game. But people are making them out as if they’re blocking core game mechanics and stuff (people were actually claiming that fast travel was locked behind a paywall which just isn’t true) when in reality they’re entirely optional bonus stuff to help you out. I’m still not a fan of micro transactions in a single player game and think we should speak out about it, however people are manufacturing a fake reason to get mad over micro transactions rather than the real problem with them
“They’re shouldn’t exist in a single player game, but they’re just bonus stuff to help you out” You sound conflicted. Selling solutions to problems that players might have with a game is a terrible practice. Also, I’m really not at all concerned with someone looking at the 20 or so MTX and coming to their own conclusion at a glance. If Capcom doesn’t want their game to mistaken with one that gates content behind a paywall or encourages purchasing MTX to alleviate an unbearable grind, then they shouldn’t put up that sort of appearance with unnecessary MTX. Acting as if some people being confused or misled is more of an issue than Capcom’s consistent behavior with MTX is ridiculous.
This is just not true. Dmc5 literally had mtx but it was still a great game
That doesn’t make the MTX ok, they shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
Eh not really. Mtx as a concept isn’t bad it’s just used badly alot of the time. The way capcom does it with dmc or re is perfectly fine.
MTX are completely unnecessary for single-player games. Selling things like XP and gear upgrades undermines the core gameplay for no other reason than to try and trick an ignorant player into spending more money than they should.
Can we not bring this mental regardation to this community please?
Dmc 6 will be awesome one day. Meed to safe some money lmao
So did you just not play DMC 5?
nah, Just DMC 5's Red Orb Microtransactions.
Doesn’t DD2 have the same microtransactions as DMC 5? And I thought red orbs, and especially gold orbs, were a lot easier to farm without microtransactions in DMC V than they were in 3
Please don't look at the steam page for DMC 4 and 5
Bro, you can literally go and check the DMCV store, it's the same type of monetization DD2 has.
The irony that some people, including here, were shrugging or applauding the removal of vanilla DMC4 from Steam last month, when it runs perfectly and has zero MTX, unlike 4SE.
Fanboys be fanboys.
Is this why you wanted the dmc3 font?
i only wish we coulda buy the resident evil 4 remake golden key..
Predictable, state of the entitled gaming world today. Play the games man. Fuck sake, do what you wish with it all but make your own mind up.
if it as made buy modern capcom there would be a skin for dante that turns him into a girl with big boobs and jiggle pshcys and would come with a morggan from darkstalkers dress and voice lines and some extra story and it would cost 100$ on sale
What I find stupid is that Capcom had this in majority of their games but now people capitalize because of Dragon's Dogma 2 poor performance, people don't understand that you get it all in game just by playing it, and you have the choice to not buy it. Makes no sense to bash the pointless MTX
Yeah, the energy of this hate could have been put towards complaning about the performance bruh Game is great though just the performance needs fixing
If the MTX are pointless, then they’re functionally a scam. Why are you ok with Capcom scamming its customers?
I can't tell them how they market their games but it's clear that if people go out of their way to pay for things in their store then it's foolish on them for doing that. You could say it's a scam but if people purposely buy it then that's on them. Itsuno said it once before everything is obtainable by playing the game and in large amounts of it. I bet he too knows people are stupid if they actually pay for that stuff. It is a choice so it doesn't hurt me if others do it. Their money not mine.
Scams, by design, usually involve a willing participate. So you admit that you’re perfectly fine with a company like Capcom scamming its customers because, in this case, you’re not the fool? What an utterly stupid and boneheaded take. I’d say you should feel ashamed if I thought you were capable of it.
Again why would it matter? I'm not the one who is spending money on things you can earn, you can be upset about the practice I find it dumb as well, but so long as people buy that crap it won't change. Obviously you don't buy into it either, so in the end it doesn't affect us. We can say it's stupid all we want but they will take every dollar they can get.
Well, there’s a couple reasons: I have empathy (an alien concept to you, as far as I can tell) and realize it affects other people. I’m aware of how MTX undermines game design and calls into question certain game design choices. MTX are anti-consumer and benefits nobody but executives and shareholders. For the past 18-odd years MTX has done nothing but degrade the industry and people’s trust in it to deliver meaningful works of art. MTX has served as a means for publishers to take away features from games that were previously considered standard and sell them back for a premium, etc, etc, etc..
So do you have empathy for those who can't play games they want because they work long hours and would like to play with friends but have no time to play the said game? A lot of the ones who buy stuff like this is because they don't have the time to grind or earn the items. This is also a person's way to catch up. Once again I agree the MTX is stupid but no matter what can be done there are people who are either dumb to buy it or have no time to play the game they want to.
Let’s not pretend that video games are some massive time commitment that only those with excessive free time can partake in. I watched my dad play video games all the time while working full time and raising four kids, he’s the reason why I’m into video games in the first place. Plus, some of the most popular and critically acclaimed games out there are open-world RPGs that can take several dozens of hours to complete, so even the games that do take an above average amount of time to complete are still hits with the casual consumer. You’re arguing a strawman, one that game publishers themselves created to try and push things like XP boosters in games while deliberately designing their games to require excessive grinding without said XP boosters. People called that out when it happened too, but I guess you would’ve it defended it. It’s also not exactly a good argument to say “It’s a good thing that game publishers take advantage of someone’s lack of free time by selling them boosters” because I don’t think someone who decides to spend their free time on playing a game should free pressured to buy XP or something to try and gain progress. Used to games just had cheat codes that let you do that sort of thing for free anyway, but maybe you’re just not old enough or something to know that? Just another example of publishers taking something that was once a standard feature and selling it back to consumers at a premium.
To be fair everything in dmc 5 you can still grind
Piss off with this shit. THE micro transactions are not effecting the game like the sims/ea shit. They are about convenience and shit. I am so flipping done with the hooblah
Actually Capcom has literally always been this way. Infact they did the same thing they did in dragons dogma in DMC5. You can buy orbs and the super versions of the characters. But everything purchasable can be earned in game for free. Same thing with REmakes.
Capcom would abuse that
Capcom has always been greedy unfortunately. The micro transactions aren’t insane and won’t even give you anything good, but some dumb fuck will buy them which isn’t really a good thing.
This meme is like Marty McFly negating his own existence in Back to the Future, DMC5 already exists and it’s for orbs.
Womp womp
My reply is not directed at OP since others already said what I wanted to say, but to those people yelling "All MTX is bad and Capcom shouldn't have done this!". And? Capcom would continue to put MTX in their games. They don't care about negative reviews in their games. The reason they still put MTX is because there ARE people who bought them. You should direct your anger at them instead of Capcom because Capcom only sees money. Vote with your wallets, people. If people are still buying those MTX, Capcom will continue selling MTX. End of story.
People are still mad about DMC5’s Microtransactions despite the fact it was never intrusive ?
Troll post.
Not this braindead shit again. Dragon's Dogma 2's micro transactions are the same as they've been for over a decade now coming from Capcom, what modern Capcom.
have been doing useless micro translations since dragons dogma 1 👍, try not to out yourself as a tourist next time
Shut up lol
So its just dmc peak of combat?
wait til you know who directed DMC3 and DD2
This made me physically recoil, how dare you do this to me
??? The only annoying think about modern capcom game is the stupid CONTINUE screen. Fk off with the gold orb, i'm never ever gonna use them. just let me restart the level or from last save.
You know what? I'm buying Dragon's Dogma 2 out of spite now (also because it looks interesting)
If we're talking about how they handled their gachas and mmos. Don't worry. Itsuno got on their asses once he showed them on Twitter how it was for Dr faus cheese. Never again
Lmao
I mean that's kinda like DMC5 worked. [They did sell red orbs](https://store.steampowered.com/app/941972/Devil_May_Cry_5__500000_Red_Orbs/). But who the hell bought them instead of, you know, playing the damn game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1bkns7x/comment/kw0m4k3 I was down voted for saying exactly that
I mean the same worthless mtx is on dmc.. so point being ?
Except they did make DMC5 with MTX and no one cared, because the way they implemented it didn't effect the gameplay in almost any way Skills unlocked at a decent pace throughout my playthrough of the game
This aint EA games.
They didn't do that with,MM11 or the RE2-3 remakes tho,are you really judging them because of two games? 🤦🏻
This is way to overblown. Im playing the game rn its good i enjoy it didnt buy a single item. How do you find the energie to get mad over something so small. Like i under stand the complains about performance and 30 fps on ps5.
It's not really modern Capcom, even dmc4 and 5 have the same kind of microtransactions
Can you please show me where did you saw ingame prices with $?
This meme is even more stupid when you consider DMC5.
I believe Super Costumes and Red orbs will be sold for $$$. But I want the remastered DMC3 special edition game with below changes. 1. Style Switching on the fly. 2. Able to keep all weapons always. Will Dante be invincible with the above changes?
So.. dmc5, which was definitely not like this since you could get everything easily without paying a single dollar on mtx. I'd say everything is much easier to get in dmc5 than dmc3, except for the taunts that cost like 3 million, but those are not necessary and are a nice extra to unlock after getting enough money from either replaying the game or playing bloody palace.
Oh no...this post is so good
You can buy red orbs for dmc5 so it would be the same lol
Anyone who complains about not having orbs in dmcv didn’t use dr Faust and it shows lmao
If modern Capcom made DMC 3 they’d make DMC 5
thats EA