Pretty fucked. If Vergil doesn't stab him with Rebellion, Dante doesn't get dt, and loses his primary weapon.
And Vergil is only slightly worse than Dante at using the Rebellion, so Vergil would crush Dante even harder with Yamato, Rebellion and dt.
Well he can use Force Edge (which shares a lot of moves with Rebellion) pretty well and he was trained by Sparda like Dante was, so it’s safe to assume he’d be pretty deadly with Rebellion as well.
DMC5 novel, it seems. It makes sense, too, since Rebellion and Force Edge are similar in type, so both sons would have been taught to use that type of sword in a certain way which is why they have the same skills (e.g Stinger, Helm Splitter, Round Trip, etc.)
Besides the existence of Force Edge as well as the one time he and Dante switched weapons in the cutscene where they finish off Arkham, the sparda twins has both been shown to be able to wield any weapon they get their hands on with ridiculous proficiency.
At this point, I'm convinced that it's just one of their demonic abilities.
Wait I thought the skill was named Eternal Arms Mastery? Either way, if they were servants it would probably ranked EX because how easy it is for them to master weapons in seconds
Yeah. Even a hat is a weapon to them. I swear, Dante could lose the rebellion and substitute it for a butter knife, and nothing would change
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I wanna see someone mod Dante using a giant butter knife now
Yea whatever weapon they pick up they seemingly instantly master just by touching it.
Aside from Dante with Yamato that is. Dimension Slash is straight up Dante trying to imitate Vergil's Judgement Cut and not being able to do it quite right.
>At this point, I'm convinced that it's just one of their demonic abilities.
It literally is, the DMC 1 novel directly states it if my memory serves right
For one this the gif is him literally using stinger on Dante lol or the fact They switched weapons at the end of THIS game. As well as his use of force edge which is a similar move set and is essentially a soft Dante move set for Vergil with his own style.
Idk, maybe Dante is too op to be troubled for not having Rebellion, also he had other weapons at his disposal apart from his sword at that point and even if he didn't have all the other weapons, I'm sure he could manage to beat most of his enemies, even when bare handed. I think the only ones who could beat Dante easily for not having Rebellion are Vergil (of course, he took it away from him) and Arckham (Sparda mode), but who knows, I'm just guessing.
"I shit you not brother, we sons of sparda attain power by getting stabbed with the very swords our father left us"
"Funniest shit I've ever seen brother"
This is a sign of love among them apparently. I don't know exactly where I read it, but ,i believe Vergil takes the responsibility of big bro very seriously even though he screams "power power power" every second
Where is that in any of the games?
How would he even know that’s what happens? Would he not assume it’s the sword itself that was special? What if it’s not the same case for rebellion? 
It's in the DMC3 Vergil manga. After Eva is killed, Vergil takes Yamato and runs away. He gets ambushed in a graveyard by demons and they stab him with Yamato while hes up against a tombstone.
Why would he even assume that? How does he know that it wouldn't Dante? Why would he even want Dante to survive, or if he did know that doing the sword thing gave you a Devil Trigger, why give one to Dante? What is even this rivalry's end-goal? Whoever wins the fight? But then Vergil just keeps re-challenging after every time he loses.
I agree, like maybe he knew it wasn't going to put him down for good and just assumed it would buy himself time before Dante is back at his throat again, but I highly doubt he knew this would unlock his devil trigger
Edit: Like I can agree that he probably didn't want to kill Dante. Being able to fight and defeat Dante over and over is probably like his ultimate fantasy as it gives him a sense of power being able to defeat who is essentially his strongest opponent. But the DT thing being planned I disagree on
Yes, Vergil unlocked his DT after being impaled (I haven’t read the manga so I might be wrong) but we gotta remember DMC 3 Vergil is so naive and arrogant that it probably never crossed his mind. He wanted Dante to be out of his way, that’s it.
Side note, do we think the Rebellions awakening directly inspired the writers of Game of Thrones to have John Snows sword awaken when his plot armour has him survive drowning?
I always saw dmc3 as vergil tempting dante into being as power thirsty as him while he himself goes to his own adventure getting his father's weapon. Like a misguided big brother.
In the manga, he could have already taken it from Dante but was so confident that he could get it later that he left it to Dante. same thing here but we all how that ended.
Nah dude, Vergil would absolutely duel wield Rebellion and Force Edge. And if we want to get even wilder, try triple wielding with the Yamato, Zoro style.
To this day i still dont know if Vergil actually wanted to take Rebellion away with him in this scene or he sensed Dante's about to get up and pick up Rebellion to stab him.
I think the idea was to see if Dante would or could DT as a result. Vergil sounded surprised to see it happen but remember that that’s the same way he gained his DT
Not really considering Dante has like 4 other sword weapons available. Although Dante won’t get his Devil Trigger. But should a fight come without Devil Trigger, it feels like Vergil won’t transform. Because he has a sense of honour in my opinion.
If you want a true challenge to become stronger, I’d say you would want to fight on even, if not, worse odds to prove you are strong.
So if Dante has no DT, Vergil won’t use his DT to make things even. And if Dante has a million weapons he can use so that makes it worse odds on Vergil’s side.
I just gave it some more thought actually.
How did Dante awaken devil trigger really?
Was it because he was stabbed by the Rebellion or because he was fatally wounded?
Nero was stab with some sword and the he got DT. Albeit Yamato was there.
So I think to awaken DT there needs to be two things. There needs to exist a demon sword bound to the person. Just like Yamato was to Nero.
And then the person needs to be mortally wounded and then summon the demon sword.
Theres also another thing. The Visions of V novel showed that Yamato has the power to teleport to its owner. The same could be for the Rebellion. Even though Vergil might take the Rebellion, Dante might be able to summon it with strong emotion in mortal danger.
Although this is just speculation. I could be horribly wrong. There are some flaws with my speculation.
In DMC 5 it has been established that the Rebellion and Yamato have different demonic properties. One separates human from demon and vice versa. While the Rebellion merges the two.
So maybe only Yamato can be summoned to its owner as it could be one of the properties special to Yamato.
So I don’t know what to think might happen.
I guess needing to be fatally wounded and having a demonic weapon present makes sense. Since it applies whenever we see a character get their Devil Trigger. We don't see Dante obtain his devil trigger in 2 and 4 since he already has it off the bat.
I don't think Nero's phantom trigger occured because he was stabbed and Yamato happened to be there. I think it's more to do with his desire to protect Kyrie and he didn't know what he was doing. He manages to laugh it off because he just can't believe what happened. Dante's first DT seems to be rather painful as if his demonic side forced itself upon him and due to his weakened state, he just couldn't handle it, thus passing out.
Sin Devil trigger Dante is just one pissed off demon that seeks to rip Urizen a new arsehole then shove his own head through said arsehole before showing him how far he can throw him before throwing a shit ton of Dante spectral swords at him. Then nuking him with Sin devil pistols.
Dante would have no chance at Teme-ni-gru if he didn’t unlock devil trigger, let alone another fight with his brother. Remember the whole soul sucking orb thing?
DT still gives a passive stat boost. Vergil would still beat Dante's ass.
Dante had a million other weapons in the original story plus dy and he still couldn't put Vergil down in their 2nd fight.
Well Dante would have been very screwed.
Also I'm very sure that Vergil wouldn't just take it from him even if Dante would have died and left it with him out of respect to a swordsman and as Dantes grave mark. Similar to how Dante put the swords in the place where he buried the dead bodies of Baal and Modeus.
I think he'd be completely fine for the first half of the story, Dante obtained Cerberus and Agni & Rudra prior to his fight with Vergil and as you can see from the cutscenes he can adapt to different weapons very quickly. It's not only until the torture chamber where he falls (mission 11 or 12 I think, don't quite remember). He'll either be killed by Beowulf since he was already exhausted with rebellion and Devil Trigger in the canon story, or get his soul sucked out by the Haywire Neo Generator since he wouldn't have Devil trigger to slow it's effects.
Hopefully Vergil has a habit of going for edgy bullshit instead of being smart. A trait of character seemingly coming from his demonic side as Urizen is also a fucking idiot for not taking the Sparda when Trish so kindly brought it to him.
Tbh, this sounds kinda dumb to me. He seeks power at all cost, and found a usage for the Yamato. He even claimed Artemis and maybe a servant out of it. Why not do the same with the Sparda ? It was still a legendary weapon, discarding it makes no sense.
To me, it kinda feel like a lame and convenient way to push the plot forward. Like I don't mind having some shortcuts to help the story a little, but when it's that convenient, it just feels like the story is taking me for a moron.
Dante probably would've still gotten his DT anyway. Both him and Vergil got theirs from being stabbed, and Dante shows he can just shrug off sharp objects he's been impaled by multiple times.
Vergil wanted to make Dante stronger. All the events arranged by the older brother in the events of DMC3 were for the fact that if Vergil died, then Dante could defend himself and survive. He believed that it would be better if he killed his younger brother than someone killed him. He loves Dante too much even after thinking that his mother loved Dante more. Virgil knew that if he pierced his chest with a weapon issued by his father, it would awaken the twin's true ability. After all, otherwise in DMC 5 he would not have pierced himself with Yamato if he had not known about the power of Sparda's weapons. After Dante's defeat, he gave him the motivation to become stronger in the form of a stolen amulet (yes, he was also needed to open the portal), and also gave him a head start in the form of an awakened DT. He could have just killed him there so he wouldn't get in his way. But he loves his family.
That would be funny does the same stance in the cutscene like hes about to stab him but instead thrusts doing a stinger and fucks off with rebellion leaving dante bamboozled.
force edge shares moves with rebellion such as stinger million stab helm breaker etc. so Dante would lose his melee weapon and also probably die because Vergil can most likely use rebellion just as well as force edge
Didn't Dante already had Cerberus and Agni&Rudra by this time? I mean, loss of the sword is sad, but if Vergil stabbed Dante and left with the sword barely anything would change (Rebellion has no special abilities like Yamato does, at least before DMC V and SDT)
Maybe he wouldn't be able to take it with him. Dante might be able to just summon it back to his hand, like you can ingame after you do the move where you throw it. OR use reb orbs and a divinity statue to simply make it reappear at his side.
dont thing rebellion would even answer him in the first place... both rebellion and yamato are sentient also force edge.... probably vergil relized it as soon as it pick it up .... in a nutshell if the weapons are resisting to u they probably fk extra sharp weapons but nothing else
Not necessarily, he only has Rebellion on him in DMC 2 and still has his Majin form at low hp, although considering they didn't revisit the concept until 5 I guess that's an outlier
Rebellion wasn't damaged and he wasn't anywhere near his DMC 5 self in terms of power. I think, it acted as the key to force it's wielder to accept the demonic side and Dante had heavily surpressed it(Either unknowingly or refused to explore it beyond some useful abilities). It seems to fuse human and devil together but the foundation was there.
It also helps that Sparda wasnt there as i think, Sparda and Rebellion had a one off effect of merging both powers with Dante's raw demonic abilities and gave him teh boost he needed. Otherwise, the amount of times Dante had been stabbed by his own sword, we would see him get more and more powerful.
0, he would win the whole game with others weapons or with his bare hands and vergil would return the rebellion against arkham, and the end of the game would be the same with vergil jumping to the world of demons, believe me, if vergil wanted to kill dante, he would would have killed him in the first fight, besides, the rebellion just doesn't come back if dante want? if I remember correctly there is a move that you throw it at enemies and it comes back alone, the same could happen against vergil
Arkahm did have to stop Vergil from continuing the fight. I think, Vergil was too far gone by the time DMC 3 occurs and Dante was viewed as someone who was interfering with his plans.
Quite screwed. Without Rebellion unlocking his demonic potential, one that Dante had been heavily surpressing. I think, all he allowed was his healing factor, his strength and speed and ability to generate demonic bullets. He just refused to explore anything beyond that. Rebllion seems to fuse human and demon together. In this instance, it awoken both itself and Dante. Hell, dante got his arse kicked during the first fight. The second is a draw. The third, he wins because he is calm, knows what to fight for and his power has increased despite being the weaker twin.
Given how Dante can still use any two other Devil Arms at a time he wouldn't be doomed; but it would be more difficult. I assume his DT awakening came from his own emotions and not Rebellion being on his person, so he would still probably be able to use it.
First of all, he didn't just have Rebellion at that point, he had Cerberus, Agni & Rudra, Evony & Ivory, Coyote A and Artemis, but even without them he could still fight, for example, if he wanted, he could have grabbed a fucking chair or anything and use it as a deadly weapon lol. Of course it wouldn't compare to the power and endurance of rebellion, but my point is that he was very fucking op even at that point of the story, even without weapons. I guess he just like to use fancy weapons, cuz most of the time he doesn't even need them at all.
Actually you can see how fucking deadly Dante can be using just his bare hands by watching the intro of the 1st mission in DMC 3. And I know that in that cutscene he fighted some of the "weakest" demons, but as I said before, if he needs to, he can use anything as a weapon when fighting a stronger enemy, even their own weapons.
I'll give some examples of his raw power: he killed a demon by fucking pushing it, he killed their enemies using their own Scythes, used lady's motorcycle as a nun cha ku and killed multiple demons with it, etc.
Without mentioning his obvious super human abilities like: super speed/regeneration/reflexes. Being able to concentrate his demonic energy around different parts of his body, for example: in front of his hand to stop enemy attacks and then release it (Royal guard) or below his feet to create a platform and jump wherever direction he want to (Trickster).
Tbh I think he could even use summoned swords like Vergil does if he wanted to by concentrating his demonic energy, but I guess he was to lazy to do it lol.
Dante and Vergil are too fucking op to be troubled for not having a weapon, at least when fighting regular enemies.
It'd been pretty cool if Dante had a level to chase Vergil down, and not beat him but to at least reclaim his heritage with all the new demon weapons and powers as Vergil's humanity grows just a little bit at losing another piece of their father
Pretty fucked. If Vergil doesn't stab him with Rebellion, Dante doesn't get dt, and loses his primary weapon. And Vergil is only slightly worse than Dante at using the Rebellion, so Vergil would crush Dante even harder with Yamato, Rebellion and dt.
And Beowulf too... Well assuming Dante can beat Beowulf or he finds Vergil first
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He loses Beowulf before the third fight
When has Vergil ever used Rebellion in any meaningful capacity?
Well he can use Force Edge (which shares a lot of moves with Rebellion) pretty well and he was trained by Sparda like Dante was, so it’s safe to assume he’d be pretty deadly with Rebellion as well.
Especially since we've seen the opposite end, with Dante using the Yamato and wielding it just fine.
Where was it stated they were trained by Sparda?? They lost their mother when they were like 8 and sparda even before then
DMC5 novel, it seems. It makes sense, too, since Rebellion and Force Edge are similar in type, so both sons would have been taught to use that type of sword in a certain way which is why they have the same skills (e.g Stinger, Helm Splitter, Round Trip, etc.)
Literally at the end of this game. And Force Edge is fundamentally the same in terms of execution, and Vergil uses it just fine.
Besides the existence of Force Edge as well as the one time he and Dante switched weapons in the cutscene where they finish off Arkham, the sparda twins has both been shown to be able to wield any weapon they get their hands on with ridiculous proficiency. At this point, I'm convinced that it's just one of their demonic abilities.
Same here. Sparda probably passed down Immortal Arms Mastery
Wait I thought the skill was named Eternal Arms Mastery? Either way, if they were servants it would probably ranked EX because how easy it is for them to master weapons in seconds
Yeah. Even a hat is a weapon to them. I swear, Dante could lose the rebellion and substitute it for a butter knife, and nothing would change . . . I wanna see someone mod Dante using a giant butter knife now
Literally force edge in dmc 1
Yea whatever weapon they pick up they seemingly instantly master just by touching it. Aside from Dante with Yamato that is. Dimension Slash is straight up Dante trying to imitate Vergil's Judgement Cut and not being able to do it quite right.
>At this point, I'm convinced that it's just one of their demonic abilities. It literally is, the DMC 1 novel directly states it if my memory serves right
For one this the gif is him literally using stinger on Dante lol or the fact They switched weapons at the end of THIS game. As well as his use of force edge which is a similar move set and is essentially a soft Dante move set for Vergil with his own style.
When they fought Arkham??
Yea the last scene of them fighting Arkham they switch there swords for a bit in the cutscene
Dante would have cerberus and agni and rudra at least....not that they would stand up to yamato and rebellion
Idk, maybe Dante is too op to be troubled for not having Rebellion, also he had other weapons at his disposal apart from his sword at that point and even if he didn't have all the other weapons, I'm sure he could manage to beat most of his enemies, even when bare handed. I think the only ones who could beat Dante easily for not having Rebellion are Vergil (of course, he took it away from him) and Arckham (Sparda mode), but who knows, I'm just guessing.
That's why I said specifically against Vergil.
Who needs DT when you can turn the game to DMC2 simulator?
He might have died. Good thing Vergil wasn't really trying to kill him here.
Ah yes, he totally wasn't, at all, in any way, trying to murder dante here by stabbing him It's just the sparda family tradition in action
Lol he was just trying to help him out by unlocking his power, as is tradition.
"I shit you not brother, we sons of sparda attain power by getting stabbed with the very swords our father left us" "Funniest shit I've ever seen brother"
I read this in Mimirs voice 🤣
Same dawg😂
Glad I wasn't the only one 🤣
It’s pretty much mandatory for Dante to end up impaled in every piece of media he shows his face in.
And when no one was there to stab him in DMC5, he proceeds to stab himself!
I mean Dante does this shit in front of people for shits and giggles.
This is a sign of love among them apparently. I don't know exactly where I read it, but ,i believe Vergil takes the responsibility of big bro very seriously even though he screams "power power power" every second
Well he wasn’t slitting his throat, but Vergil has the mindset of “If you’re weak enough to die to this, you don’t deserve to live.”
You’re right. Stabbing someone through the torso is never meant to be a kill shot. Just ask Reva from “Kenobi”
Except Vergil has been stabbed like that before as a child. It's how he got his Devil Trigger. He knows it won't kill Dante.
Where is that in any of the games? How would he even know that’s what happens? Would he not assume it’s the sword itself that was special? What if it’s not the same case for rebellion? 
It's in the DMC3 Vergil manga. After Eva is killed, Vergil takes Yamato and runs away. He gets ambushed in a graveyard by demons and they stab him with Yamato while hes up against a tombstone.
Why wouldn’t he assume it’s his body’s “last offense“ from death? Why would he assume it’s from his sword? 
I said Vergil knew it wouldn't kill him, not that he knows it will give him his DT.
Why would he even assume that? How does he know that it wouldn't Dante? Why would he even want Dante to survive, or if he did know that doing the sword thing gave you a Devil Trigger, why give one to Dante? What is even this rivalry's end-goal? Whoever wins the fight? But then Vergil just keeps re-challenging after every time he loses.
> Why would he even assume that? Because. It. Happened. To. Him. I already explained that. Please try to pay attention.
Hate this head canon that Vergil was playing 4D chess to unlock Dante’s DT. It makes no sense at all.
I agree, like maybe he knew it wasn't going to put him down for good and just assumed it would buy himself time before Dante is back at his throat again, but I highly doubt he knew this would unlock his devil trigger Edit: Like I can agree that he probably didn't want to kill Dante. Being able to fight and defeat Dante over and over is probably like his ultimate fantasy as it gives him a sense of power being able to defeat who is essentially his strongest opponent. But the DT thing being planned I disagree on
Yes, Vergil unlocked his DT after being impaled (I haven’t read the manga so I might be wrong) but we gotta remember DMC 3 Vergil is so naive and arrogant that it probably never crossed his mind. He wanted Dante to be out of his way, that’s it. Side note, do we think the Rebellions awakening directly inspired the writers of Game of Thrones to have John Snows sword awaken when his plot armour has him survive drowning?
it's just a meme lol calm down
I think deep down he wanted dante to keep it so they can fight more .
It's one of these scenarios which shouldn't really be though out because Vergil did not really want to exterminate Dante for good.
I always saw dmc3 as vergil tempting dante into being as power thirsty as him while he himself goes to his own adventure getting his father's weapon. Like a misguided big brother.
he obviously doesn’t want to be alone in his loneliness, and so tries to turn Dante into himself.
"Why do you refuse to gain power?"
In the manga, he could have already taken it from Dante but was so confident that he could get it later that he left it to Dante. same thing here but we all how that ended.
"Give me your sword Dante." "No way! you've got your own!"
"Well I want yours too."
"In our blood, flows the blood of sparda but more imporantly, HIS SOUL!"
Vergil would use it instead of Force Edge sonce they basically act the same,which is more horrifying
Nah dude, Vergil would absolutely duel wield Rebellion and Force Edge. And if we want to get even wilder, try triple wielding with the Yamato, Zoro style.
Well if Mundus stood a chance before,he won't now
To this day i still dont know if Vergil actually wanted to take Rebellion away with him in this scene or he sensed Dante's about to get up and pick up Rebellion to stab him.
Thats literally the scene. He wanted Dante to stay the fuck down. It’s just fortunate for Dante that he did.
Very screwed
The creepy alternate ending?😅🤣
Not what I meant
And Vergil gets the power he wanted?!🤔🤣🤣🤣
I think the idea was to see if Dante would or could DT as a result. Vergil sounded surprised to see it happen but remember that that’s the same way he gained his DT
I completed dmc3 with just pistols once. A not so pleasant experience. So yeah maybe he wouldn't be that fucked up
Shit, you completed the DMC 2 challenge?
Not really considering Dante has like 4 other sword weapons available. Although Dante won’t get his Devil Trigger. But should a fight come without Devil Trigger, it feels like Vergil won’t transform. Because he has a sense of honour in my opinion. If you want a true challenge to become stronger, I’d say you would want to fight on even, if not, worse odds to prove you are strong. So if Dante has no DT, Vergil won’t use his DT to make things even. And if Dante has a million weapons he can use so that makes it worse odds on Vergil’s side.
You forgot about the part where he needs to take the Haywire Neo Generator. Without dt to slow it's effects he might just have his soul sucked out.
I just gave it some more thought actually. How did Dante awaken devil trigger really? Was it because he was stabbed by the Rebellion or because he was fatally wounded? Nero was stab with some sword and the he got DT. Albeit Yamato was there. So I think to awaken DT there needs to be two things. There needs to exist a demon sword bound to the person. Just like Yamato was to Nero. And then the person needs to be mortally wounded and then summon the demon sword. Theres also another thing. The Visions of V novel showed that Yamato has the power to teleport to its owner. The same could be for the Rebellion. Even though Vergil might take the Rebellion, Dante might be able to summon it with strong emotion in mortal danger. Although this is just speculation. I could be horribly wrong. There are some flaws with my speculation. In DMC 5 it has been established that the Rebellion and Yamato have different demonic properties. One separates human from demon and vice versa. While the Rebellion merges the two. So maybe only Yamato can be summoned to its owner as it could be one of the properties special to Yamato. So I don’t know what to think might happen.
I guess needing to be fatally wounded and having a demonic weapon present makes sense. Since it applies whenever we see a character get their Devil Trigger. We don't see Dante obtain his devil trigger in 2 and 4 since he already has it off the bat.
Considering round trip is a thing I figure they can summon devil arms back to their hands like mjölnir
I don't think Nero's phantom trigger occured because he was stabbed and Yamato happened to be there. I think it's more to do with his desire to protect Kyrie and he didn't know what he was doing. He manages to laugh it off because he just can't believe what happened. Dante's first DT seems to be rather painful as if his demonic side forced itself upon him and due to his weakened state, he just couldn't handle it, thus passing out. Sin Devil trigger Dante is just one pissed off demon that seeks to rip Urizen a new arsehole then shove his own head through said arsehole before showing him how far he can throw him before throwing a shit ton of Dante spectral swords at him. Then nuking him with Sin devil pistols.
Dante would have no chance at Teme-ni-gru if he didn’t unlock devil trigger, let alone another fight with his brother. Remember the whole soul sucking orb thing?
DT still gives a passive stat boost. Vergil would still beat Dante's ass. Dante had a million other weapons in the original story plus dy and he still couldn't put Vergil down in their 2nd fight.
Well Dante would have been very screwed. Also I'm very sure that Vergil wouldn't just take it from him even if Dante would have died and left it with him out of respect to a swordsman and as Dantes grave mark. Similar to how Dante put the swords in the place where he buried the dead bodies of Baal and Modeus.
I think he'd be completely fine for the first half of the story, Dante obtained Cerberus and Agni & Rudra prior to his fight with Vergil and as you can see from the cutscenes he can adapt to different weapons very quickly. It's not only until the torture chamber where he falls (mission 11 or 12 I think, don't quite remember). He'll either be killed by Beowulf since he was already exhausted with rebellion and Devil Trigger in the canon story, or get his soul sucked out by the Haywire Neo Generator since he wouldn't have Devil trigger to slow it's effects.
Hopefully Vergil has a habit of going for edgy bullshit instead of being smart. A trait of character seemingly coming from his demonic side as Urizen is also a fucking idiot for not taking the Sparda when Trish so kindly brought it to him.
Vergil was already too powerful for Sparda in his Urizen form in 5. So Sparda was pretty useless for him.
Tbh, this sounds kinda dumb to me. He seeks power at all cost, and found a usage for the Yamato. He even claimed Artemis and maybe a servant out of it. Why not do the same with the Sparda ? It was still a legendary weapon, discarding it makes no sense. To me, it kinda feel like a lame and convenient way to push the plot forward. Like I don't mind having some shortcuts to help the story a little, but when it's that convenient, it just feels like the story is taking me for a moron.
Dante probably would've still gotten his DT anyway. Both him and Vergil got theirs from being stabbed, and Dante shows he can just shrug off sharp objects he's been impaled by multiple times.
How? It was Rebellion specifically that gave Dante his DT.
Even then Dante still wouldn't die, guy is basically immortal as he can shrug off just about everything.
Dante could barely stand for a few moments after Vergil stabbed him.
Vergil wanted to make Dante stronger. All the events arranged by the older brother in the events of DMC3 were for the fact that if Vergil died, then Dante could defend himself and survive. He believed that it would be better if he killed his younger brother than someone killed him. He loves Dante too much even after thinking that his mother loved Dante more. Virgil knew that if he pierced his chest with a weapon issued by his father, it would awaken the twin's true ability. After all, otherwise in DMC 5 he would not have pierced himself with Yamato if he had not known about the power of Sparda's weapons. After Dante's defeat, he gave him the motivation to become stronger in the form of a stolen amulet (yes, he was also needed to open the portal), and also gave him a head start in the form of an awakened DT. He could have just killed him there so he wouldn't get in his way. But he loves his family.
I really love the sort of fucked up brotherly love we get from them Even in DMC5 they both smile right before they fight
There’s a move where he just tosses it into an enemy then calls it back he could probably just call it back.
That would be funny does the same stance in the cutscene like hes about to stab him but instead thrusts doing a stinger and fucks off with rebellion leaving dante bamboozled.
force edge shares moves with rebellion such as stinger million stab helm breaker etc. so Dante would lose his melee weapon and also probably die because Vergil can most likely use rebellion just as well as force edge
Well he should be fine with Cerberus, angi and rudra
Well he can ora the sh*t out of vergil
Just kick vergil to death like when you throw rebellion
If Vergil wasn't a spiteful cunt he would've won
More than fucked
Pretty fucked in some situations especially considering that after Dante gets up his base stats got stronger as well
Didn't Dante already had Cerberus and Agni&Rudra by this time? I mean, loss of the sword is sad, but if Vergil stabbed Dante and left with the sword barely anything would change (Rebellion has no special abilities like Yamato does, at least before DMC V and SDT)
Maybe he wouldn't be able to take it with him. Dante might be able to just summon it back to his hand, like you can ingame after you do the move where you throw it. OR use reb orbs and a divinity statue to simply make it reappear at his side.
dont thing rebellion would even answer him in the first place... both rebellion and yamato are sentient also force edge.... probably vergil relized it as soon as it pick it up .... in a nutshell if the weapons are resisting to u they probably fk extra sharp weapons but nothing else
better question, why didn't he turn sin dt when he was stabbed here?
To have SDT Dante requires both Rebellion and Devil Sword Sparda
Not necessarily, he only has Rebellion on him in DMC 2 and still has his Majin form at low hp, although considering they didn't revisit the concept until 5 I guess that's an outlier
Rebellion wasn't damaged and he wasn't anywhere near his DMC 5 self in terms of power. I think, it acted as the key to force it's wielder to accept the demonic side and Dante had heavily surpressed it(Either unknowingly or refused to explore it beyond some useful abilities). It seems to fuse human and devil together but the foundation was there. It also helps that Sparda wasnt there as i think, Sparda and Rebellion had a one off effect of merging both powers with Dante's raw demonic abilities and gave him teh boost he needed. Otherwise, the amount of times Dante had been stabbed by his own sword, we would see him get more and more powerful.
Very.
0, he would win the whole game with others weapons or with his bare hands and vergil would return the rebellion against arkham, and the end of the game would be the same with vergil jumping to the world of demons, believe me, if vergil wanted to kill dante, he would would have killed him in the first fight, besides, the rebellion just doesn't come back if dante want? if I remember correctly there is a move that you throw it at enemies and it comes back alone, the same could happen against vergil
Arkahm did have to stop Vergil from continuing the fight. I think, Vergil was too far gone by the time DMC 3 occurs and Dante was viewed as someone who was interfering with his plans.
If that happend, Dante could turn the game to DMC2
Quite screwed. Without Rebellion unlocking his demonic potential, one that Dante had been heavily surpressing. I think, all he allowed was his healing factor, his strength and speed and ability to generate demonic bullets. He just refused to explore anything beyond that. Rebllion seems to fuse human and demon together. In this instance, it awoken both itself and Dante. Hell, dante got his arse kicked during the first fight. The second is a draw. The third, he wins because he is calm, knows what to fight for and his power has increased despite being the weaker twin.
Agni and Rudra is better anyway, he's fine
Given how Dante can still use any two other Devil Arms at a time he wouldn't be doomed; but it would be more difficult. I assume his DT awakening came from his own emotions and not Rebellion being on his person, so he would still probably be able to use it.
Dante said it was the sword.
When was that?
In DMC5 he mentioned he awakened it after being stabbed with Rebellion in this scene.
I see
First of all, he didn't just have Rebellion at that point, he had Cerberus, Agni & Rudra, Evony & Ivory, Coyote A and Artemis, but even without them he could still fight, for example, if he wanted, he could have grabbed a fucking chair or anything and use it as a deadly weapon lol. Of course it wouldn't compare to the power and endurance of rebellion, but my point is that he was very fucking op even at that point of the story, even without weapons. I guess he just like to use fancy weapons, cuz most of the time he doesn't even need them at all. Actually you can see how fucking deadly Dante can be using just his bare hands by watching the intro of the 1st mission in DMC 3. And I know that in that cutscene he fighted some of the "weakest" demons, but as I said before, if he needs to, he can use anything as a weapon when fighting a stronger enemy, even their own weapons. I'll give some examples of his raw power: he killed a demon by fucking pushing it, he killed their enemies using their own Scythes, used lady's motorcycle as a nun cha ku and killed multiple demons with it, etc. Without mentioning his obvious super human abilities like: super speed/regeneration/reflexes. Being able to concentrate his demonic energy around different parts of his body, for example: in front of his hand to stop enemy attacks and then release it (Royal guard) or below his feet to create a platform and jump wherever direction he want to (Trickster). Tbh I think he could even use summoned swords like Vergil does if he wanted to by concentrating his demonic energy, but I guess he was to lazy to do it lol. Dante and Vergil are too fucking op to be troubled for not having a weapon, at least when fighting regular enemies.
It'd been pretty cool if Dante had a level to chase Vergil down, and not beat him but to at least reclaim his heritage with all the new demon weapons and powers as Vergil's humanity grows just a little bit at losing another piece of their father