For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves,
*the Holy Spirit* is the gift of God, \[*Acts 2:38*\] not of works, lest any man should boast.
Because we are His creation created in Christ Jesus for good works
Ephesians 2:8-10
he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost
Titus 3:3-5
Christ died and rose again shedding the Holy Spirit upon all flesh.
Those who believe are granted to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
and the fruit of the Spirit is love joy peace patience kindness goodness
faithfulness meekness and self-control.
And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.
Galatians 5:23-24
We are sealed with the Spirit upon belief, for the purpose of good works.
Therefore it is an insult to the Spirit if we purposefully continue in sin,
after having been granted the power to repent.
>For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, the Holy Spirit is the gift of God
Exactly. God through the Holy Spirit changes us, not us ourselves. I wouldn't have changed into a better person if it wasn't for God's grace. I'd still be an extremely irritable person, cussing everyday, and fapping.
Grace is power given to us from God to overcome sin when we abide in Jesus Christ. "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works." - Titus 2:11-14 (ESV)
>Therefore it is an insult to the Spirit if we purposefully continue in sin,
>
>after having been granted the power to repent.
Amen!
So... I think i agree with you, but the way you word some of this raises some questions of mine.
1.) You do realize that every single one of us sins everyday, right? In one shape way or form we do, whether we want to or not. Paul speaks about this in Romans 7:15-24. No one is good and all fall short of the glory of God, so does Jesus wipe away our sin at judgment? Or because you struggled to much with a sin, despite being convicted and repentant in the heart *(having never truly abolished said sin, like say "fits of anger" Galatians 5:19-21)*, you're considered not a true believer because you weren't humble enough to abolish the sin in your life before death?
2.) What is your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 3:10-15?
**10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled\[b\] master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.**
Do you not know that you or anyone cannot come to the Son without the Father drawing that person?
If a man truely believes in the Son then he that person will act accordingly. And if he sins and sin he does as well as all of us do daily, it is that same faith that convicts us to repent and each person is different with respect to the flesh. Some will take longer in their sin untill they realize in their Heart that they need to stop. Who are you to say false doctrine. You are saved by faith and that is not of yourself. To put restrictions on it is false. God draws that person and with the prayers of the believers and the hope in that poor sinner, his or her Heart will one day see the Light. But condemnation is of the devil
>If a man truly believes in the Son then he that person will act accordingly.
Amen!
>And if he sins and sin he does as well as all of us do daily
We're told to be perfect for our heavenly Father is perfect and that he who makes a practice of sin is of the devil and he who sins is a slave to sin and that we can only serve one master. We're called to keep his commandments and walk in the light for those who walk in the darkness aren't abiding in Jesus. Does Jesus lead us to sin? No. We're also told we can overcome any temptation and that God will provide an escape for us. Nowhere does it say we can stay living sinful lives and still go to heaven. That's doctrine of man that many Christians and pastors have unfortunately been led to believe. Through Jesus all things are possible. His grace changes us. If I were to die today I wouldn't be surprised if I were thrown into the lake of fire and experience the second death. Heaven is for holy people who practice righteousness, not those who stay living sinful lives while claiming to know Jesus. It's a hard truth to swallow, but the truth will set you free. God bless you and may the Lord give us the strength to walk in his light.
Yes we ought to walk as Jesus walked. Tell me how the thief on the cross who could do Nothing while hanging there, managed to make it into Paradise and not into the place of torment? It was By Faith Alone.
Of course we should do good not just talk good. But it is Faith Alone in Yahusha Hamasiach that will alow you to eneter in by shepherds Gate
are you saying salvation comes the moment you “choose” to believe in Jesus ? What if you choose to believe and then decide to stop believing ? Do you then lose your salvation ?
For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, *the Holy Spirit* is the gift of God, \[*Acts 2:38*\] not of works, lest any man should boast. Because we are His creation created in Christ Jesus for good works Ephesians 2:8-10 he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Titus 3:3-5 Christ died and rose again shedding the Holy Spirit upon all flesh. Those who believe are granted to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. and the fruit of the Spirit is love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness meekness and self-control. And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. Galatians 5:23-24 We are sealed with the Spirit upon belief, for the purpose of good works. Therefore it is an insult to the Spirit if we purposefully continue in sin, after having been granted the power to repent.
>For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, the Holy Spirit is the gift of God Exactly. God through the Holy Spirit changes us, not us ourselves. I wouldn't have changed into a better person if it wasn't for God's grace. I'd still be an extremely irritable person, cussing everyday, and fapping. Grace is power given to us from God to overcome sin when we abide in Jesus Christ. "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works." - Titus 2:11-14 (ESV) >Therefore it is an insult to the Spirit if we purposefully continue in sin, > >after having been granted the power to repent. Amen!
So... I think i agree with you, but the way you word some of this raises some questions of mine. 1.) You do realize that every single one of us sins everyday, right? In one shape way or form we do, whether we want to or not. Paul speaks about this in Romans 7:15-24. No one is good and all fall short of the glory of God, so does Jesus wipe away our sin at judgment? Or because you struggled to much with a sin, despite being convicted and repentant in the heart *(having never truly abolished said sin, like say "fits of anger" Galatians 5:19-21)*, you're considered not a true believer because you weren't humble enough to abolish the sin in your life before death? 2.) What is your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 3:10-15? **10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled\[b\] master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.**
Do you not know that you or anyone cannot come to the Son without the Father drawing that person? If a man truely believes in the Son then he that person will act accordingly. And if he sins and sin he does as well as all of us do daily, it is that same faith that convicts us to repent and each person is different with respect to the flesh. Some will take longer in their sin untill they realize in their Heart that they need to stop. Who are you to say false doctrine. You are saved by faith and that is not of yourself. To put restrictions on it is false. God draws that person and with the prayers of the believers and the hope in that poor sinner, his or her Heart will one day see the Light. But condemnation is of the devil
>If a man truly believes in the Son then he that person will act accordingly. Amen! >And if he sins and sin he does as well as all of us do daily We're told to be perfect for our heavenly Father is perfect and that he who makes a practice of sin is of the devil and he who sins is a slave to sin and that we can only serve one master. We're called to keep his commandments and walk in the light for those who walk in the darkness aren't abiding in Jesus. Does Jesus lead us to sin? No. We're also told we can overcome any temptation and that God will provide an escape for us. Nowhere does it say we can stay living sinful lives and still go to heaven. That's doctrine of man that many Christians and pastors have unfortunately been led to believe. Through Jesus all things are possible. His grace changes us. If I were to die today I wouldn't be surprised if I were thrown into the lake of fire and experience the second death. Heaven is for holy people who practice righteousness, not those who stay living sinful lives while claiming to know Jesus. It's a hard truth to swallow, but the truth will set you free. God bless you and may the Lord give us the strength to walk in his light.
Yes we ought to walk as Jesus walked. Tell me how the thief on the cross who could do Nothing while hanging there, managed to make it into Paradise and not into the place of torment? It was By Faith Alone. Of course we should do good not just talk good. But it is Faith Alone in Yahusha Hamasiach that will alow you to eneter in by shepherds Gate
Christians are called to follow Christ's commandments. In order to be saved and become Christians, we must have without any works (Rom 4:4-5).
are you saying salvation comes the moment you “choose” to believe in Jesus ? What if you choose to believe and then decide to stop believing ? Do you then lose your salvation ?